How to Find Crown Land to camp on in Ontario- Crown Land Camping / Movember shout out

[@JuliusToltesi]

Skip to 1:25 for the video :)

[@kylestaax8865]

Just want to say thank you for making this vid - my wife and I have been interested in camping on crown land for the first time. Gives us a chance to break out from crowded campsites and in the middle of COVID-19 i'd say that's a good thing! Stay safe.

[@JuliusToltesi]

No problem. Glad you found it helpful. Crazy times this year for sure. Crown land camping is the best isolation to get away.

[@Godisfirst21]

OMG, finding this is going to be life changing for me. I can't thank you enough. THANK YOU!

[@JuliusToltesi]

You're so welcome! :)

[@anonymoustish827]

This is so useful! I’ve always found the crown lake website confusing - thank you!

[@JuliusToltesi]

No problem🤓 glad you found it helpful. Thanks for letting me know. :)

[@d.s.4952]

This is awesome, thanks! I found the atlas but didn't know what to do with it! This was really straight forward and I really appreciate your tip on mapping out the boundaries, I wouldn't have thought of it/known how to do it!

[@JuliusToltesi]

Hey glad you found it helpful. Thanks for commenting. It’s a great way to see the boundaries on your gps.

[@joejosepf2709]

Thanks..We’ve camped in Algonquin area and loved it. Wanting to go back...great info. great video

[@JuliusToltesi]

Thank you. I love Algonquin. Can’t wait to get back there this summer.

[@Godisfirst21]

I'm usually NOT good with navigating this kind of sites and how to use the maps, but I'm using it right now and following along with your video and I found crown land in my city and I'm super excited. I just started getting into wild camping and have most of my gear now. I did some wild camping for 2 weeks straight in July and had the cops called on me, lol. This will help me greatly. Like a new toy....I am playing with this today.

[@JuliusToltesi]

That's great, except getting the cops called. lol Make sure to print the info to avoid getting in trouble :)

[@Godisfirst21]

@@JuliusToltesi So IMPORTANT that you mentioned HUNTERS. OMG, I never even thought of that. You can tell how new I am at this. Just bought a jet boil, lol and I'm looking for a winter sleeping bag. I'm going to do a night here and there in a very quiet area I know of where I believe I won't be spotted because I know there will be no hunters there. TRULY, this video is the so helpful. Do you go wild camping? When was the last time?

[@JuliusToltesi]

@@Godisfirst21 Yes make sure to wear orange this time of year or wait to camp just out of respect to hunters in the area. I have a Teton sports winter bag. -23 I love it.

[@nomadrvmontreal2733]

wow, i've been looking everywhere for something like this for months, THANKS !

[@JuliusToltesi]

Awesome! Glad you found this video :)

[@hddlheme]

Only video that explained it well. Thanks a lot.

[@JuliusToltesi]

Thank you for commenting. It helps the video be seen more.

[@shirakates7684]

So useful, finally! Thank you so much.

[@JuliusToltesi]

Hey, glad you found it useful. Thanks for stopping by.

[@Womaninthewoods13]

Thank you! Just about to embark upon my very first crown land camp excursion! This helps!

[@JuliusToltesi]

Thank you. Glad you liked it. Looking forward to watching your first crown camping on your channel if you film it.

[@Womaninthewoods13]

@@JuliusToltesi For sure I will be filming it! Will wait a few weeks for a bit warmer weather since I will be carrying all my gear (I do most of my winter camping out of my converted Smartcar).

[@BogdanHet]

Wonder info, good job man. In the atlas, you can toggle some thing to show southern ontario private land to show those small crown land. Not worth though, usually abused and the tension with nearby land owner is electric. Living in Toronto is bad for my outdoor life....

[@JuliusToltesi]

Thanks for the tip. Ya Toronto doesn't have much for outdoor life lol. I'm originally from Hamilton. I think the only green space there is devils punch bowl lol.

[@RanchoBellaVista503]

Thank you so much for all the information, you made it very easy to understand. You had a great message at the beginning of your video.

[@JuliusToltesi]

Glad it was helpful :) and thanks for not skipping the beginning :) :)

[@markthespyderrider6641]

Great video. Glad I found your channel.

[@JuliusToltesi]

:) :)

[@8LuckyHearts]

thanks for making this video, it was very informative!

[@JuliusToltesi]

Thanks for commenting. Glad you found it helpful. Planning a trip soon?

[@julliemcveety5071]

Thank you! This was really helpful.

[@JuliusToltesi]

Glad it was helpful, thanks for the comment :)

[@useryggfdcc]

Excellent information 👌.

[@flynseek2929]

Perfect Thank you.

[@annisamazing314]

Super helpful, thanks for the video!

[@JuliusToltesi]

Hey, thanks for watching and leaving a comment :)

[@brianspencer4220]

Thanks for a scad of info . Hopefully, I can find a place usable for an old man. Stay Safe ! Brian 80

[@JuliusToltesi]

Thanks for the comment Brian. Glad to hear you're still getting out in the woods. Keep me posted on your next adventure.

[@kathiepilotte6743]

Tks this is very helpful how to use this cause I want to do camping and cut wood.

[@JuliusToltesi]

I’m glad you found it helpful, thanks for commenting to let me know. :)

[@jayceewedmak9524]

Thank you!! 👍 I'm just up the road from you (Gan) and there's so little land around - sad.

[@JuliusToltesi]

You're welcome. Thanks for watching. Are you from Gananoque?

[@jayceewedmak9524]

@@JuliusToltesi just outside of Gan - hi, neighbour :)

[@EK-mx7zb]

Thanks for the informative video. Im from the US so this is new to me. One observation I have is that in order for any Joe Citizen to use “Crown Land” which is supposed to be a public resource for all, I see you need to have a computer, internet access, and the tech savvy to figure this all out. To me, this filters out a lot of underprivileged people and makes the use of your public land a perk for the wealthy and tech savvy. It is similarly skewed in the US but not as cryptically hidden in a slow bureaucratic website. In Ontario, without the internet, how is it possible to find Crown Land? It is not marked or signed, and evidently it is disputable even by adjacent private land owners. Where is a paper map showing these areas, as agreed to and acknowledged by all parties?

[@JuliusToltesi]

You are 100% correct. It makes it very hard for non-tech people to use. You can use a paper map for crown land (World of Maps in Ottawa can print them) but you have to know how to use the grid and compass/landmarks etc. The property I used to hunt on had an ongoing dispute since it was surrounded by crown land and the owner had it marked with red paint on the trees. I purchased the map for the area and he asked if I could confirm his markers. 100% of the hunters I met had no idea how to use a compass or their GPS and constantly fought with the owner. All to say even when you have all the info, you may still fight with someone lol.

[@dutchufo4real72]

Hi Julius, name is Ray (Floatwithme) i am a Dutch composer. Great channel, keep up that amazing work. Cheers Ray

[@JuliusToltesi]

Floatwithme Thanks Ray

[@decentdiversions]

Good overview! Been meaning to scout that specific parcel near Merrickville for a while. It’s definitely seen some agricultural use but not sure if it’s actively being used. In my experience, some parcels that are marked “Crown land recreation: yes” in the CLUPA are sometimes leased to someone. That’s especially true with some old hunt camps. Cheers!

[@JuliusToltesi]

Never knew about the leasing part. I wonder if they would have to show you something or if it would be in the report if it was.

[@decentdiversions]

@@JuliusToltesi Some hunt camp buildings on Crown land display a lease certificate. They're usually valid for 10 years - and yet, according to CLUPA, anyone can camp on those properties. A bit murky. As you said, a good reason to print out the policy for the area in question.

[@khakhashisam3761]

Gold. Thank you!

[@JuliusToltesi]

Glad you liked it. Thanks for leaving the comment.

[@corrineeversonpapercraftin667]

Thanks!

[@MLef111]

Very informative. Thx

[@JuliusToltesi]

Thanks for taking the time to let me know. Hope you get out and find some great spots this summer.

[@randy6976]

Wow perfect video just what I’ve been looking for, I’m relocating to Thunder Bay from southwestern Ontario and been wondering how to locate crown land for camping,fishing and hunting. Just subscribed and will most definitely be following your channel. Take care and stay safe......Cheer’s

[@JuliusToltesi]

Hey Randy, thanks for letting me know you found it helpful. Thanks for the sub and support :)

[@markjones8846]

Great job, thanks

[@JuliusToltesi]

No problem. Glad it was helpful.

[@vladpaly4640]

Good explanation.

[@JuliusToltesi]

Thanks for taking the time to comment :)

[@tsocanuck]

hi good info but what info should i look at on how to get to the crown land and park my car without walking over private property

[@JuliusToltesi]

tsocanuck Hey :) what you would have to do is copy the coordinates into google earth or google maps and look for a road way or water way if it doesn’t show on the crown land tool. You can also look for where water passes under a road. It can be private land but you can’t own right up to the road so there’s always a few feet of easement.

[@tsocanuck]

@@JuliusToltesi thank you i have tried to look for road ways , trails , or log roads on google but it seems the map doesn't really show them clearly .and the crown land seems to be to far from the main roads but i will keep trying ...thank you so much for the help

[@JuliusToltesi]

Ya sometimes it’s a pain and you have to drive to really see lol. Other times you can use four wheeler/snowmobile trails. You can look up clubs in the area and reach out to them about access too.

[@mhuard15]

Wonderful. Well done. Very helpful. Are you a teacher?

[@JuliusToltesi]

Thank you :) No, I'm not a teacher. :)

[@kylaevans9062]

Thanks for the video. I like to Moto camp solo. Can you explain or elaborate on how I would be able to determine access with a motorcycle? Thanks for your time.

[@JuliusToltesi]

Hey Angela :) The 2 methods I use is Google Earth and wikiloc. Google Earth is great providing there is a street view. You can see if there is road access. And Wikiloc to see if someone recorded a GPS track. Hope that helps. It would be a good video idea in the future.

[@rabkorabko9200]

Thank you. its a very useful information. do you know a good places to camp on? Im from north of the GTA .

[@JuliusToltesi]

No :( There is only the Province Parks in that area that I know of.

[@ITPCD]

Can you use wood for fire on crown land (Say Ontario or Quebec)? I got a fine for using branches from the ground in a provincial park. Thanks!

[@JuliusToltesi]

In most case no :( since it's a danger. In provincial parks, you can only use designated fire pits and normally not allow to "clean" the bush. I've asked about this and the only answer I've received is that "even though you think you're doing good you are interrupting natural decomposing" I received that same answer a few times lol. In the end, you always have to call the municipality and ask. I prefer emailing them and printing. That way if you do get in trouble and you didn't get a clear answer, you have something to show you at least tried. And if the authority can't direct you to the info then you can contest the ticket. Not a direct answer but hope that helped lol.

[@ITPCD]

​@@JuliusToltesi thx for the vid (that map tool is awesome!) and the fast reply! So sounds like I CANNOT use dead branches on the ground even on regular "crown land" / not provincial parks, even if there is no fire ban? Will email dept. of natural resources to ask n get stuff in writing. (Dam... was hoping to do some cold weather camping... this kinda limits my season... : (

[@MsEmpress08]

hey Julius, thank you so much for the video. that site is a bit confusing for a newbie to crown land camping. Im not sure how to find out about road access though especially for those sites up north. any tips? thanks

[@JuliusToltesi]

The best way that I know of is that pushpin method 7:52 "right-clicking" then go to google earth or download google earth pro (it's better) and plug the lat/long into that. It will give you a more detailed view. Then you'll have to scan the area for roads or trails. :) hope that helps.

[@MsEmpress08]

@@JuliusToltesi thanks. Ill try that. :)

[@tsocanuck]

is there any maps i could buy for expedition into crown land camping that you might recommend ?

[@JuliusToltesi]

Unfortunately I don’t know of any that just show the crown land. What I do is go to a place called world of maps and print custom topo maps of the places I find. You can do it online but it’s best to walk in so you get exactly what your looking for. If you like canoe camping in national parks look up this company. Awesome maps. www.unlostify.com/

[@jacobdias157]

Would a group of 15 and 16 year old kids be able to camp alone on crown land?

[@jacobdias157]

If not, would you know what land it would it be permitted on

[@JuliusToltesi]

@@jacobdias157 To be honest, I have no idea. I know in most if not all parks on crown land it's 18 depending on the province. All I can find is non-residents have to be 18 with a permit. I know that doesn't answer the question but it would be best to call the parks department in the place you plan on camping to make sure.

[@jacobdias157]

@@JuliusToltesi Thanks anyway and great job with the quick replies.