How to Find the Centerline & The Thirds | Intro to Head Drawing: Pt. 2

[@oceaniccurrents]

This is sooooo helpful. Loomis is not clicking and this just makes so much sense. Thank you!

[@Drstrange3000]

It feels a lot more intuitive than the Loomis and seems to account for a lot more unique face shapes. I think the Loomis Method is a good base to start out with.

[@jannraquitome8495]

Ahhh. This feels refreshing. I 've been trying to learn this from other artists but your explanation is concise and detailed. This made me understand it more.

[@brunoguimaraes6100]

Great video! I always felt the necessity of understanding what the instructor sees when he draws. For example: the height of the eyebrows. It can be on the middle of that portion, or the lower part, the peak of the corners. I never knew where I should put my line on. Had troubles in understanding what the person is considering "the eyebrow", and this video shows exactly what I ALWAYS wanted to see, something that I could only see in proko videos, the construction lines over the reference. THANKS, BRIAN! Great content as always, hope it never stops!

[@foundationartschool]

You're welcome! I'm glad you like the video. It took me a long time to figure this stuff out so i'm always looking for ways to speed up the learning process.

[@stevefield9967]

after watching your videos I had a Eureka moment of understanding the Loomis method and why I had been having problems. the answer was I had been rigidly fitting the subject into the method instead of fitting the method to the subject, thank you. (if that makes sense).

[@foundationartschool]

That's awesome to hear! Yes, even though the proportions are generally uniform on all people, everyone is simultaneously unique, so finding the nuances and differences on each person is the key to likeness and lifelike portraits. Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@raniaselim1761]

Thank you 🙏

[@fahime.1007]

Fantastic 🙏⚘️👌

[@kaitlindeanne]

One other suggestion/question... could you show us at some point how to find the hairline/thirds on someone with bangs or side bangs? Basically someone who has a hairstyle where the hairline may not be visible. I find this to be trickier at times. Thanks :)

[@NorbertGrill]

Another very good explanation. Thank you very much.

[@hellflipe]

I always see your work on insta and just recently discover your yt channel. You have helped me a lot! I really appreciate you doing theese type of videos.

[@foundationartschool]

So glad to hear that! We enjoy making these videos and are always happy to hear they have helped people learn. 😊 -Olivia

[@gregpanasiuk3349]

Another video with some gold nuggets... thank you very much ! Bigger reference does the job... its much easier to follow from my phone

[@foundationartschool]

Oh good, we want these to be watchable on phones.

[@paulglobus9999]

Very clear and helpful. Thank you again.

[@gregpanasiuk3349]

Plese don't stop making this videos

[@foundationartschool]

There are many more videos to come in the future!

[@Schwarz.Medien]

Wished I could give more than one thumbs up! Although I am studying with you for some time now.(started at Watts) seeing those concepts as overlays on photos is so eye opening! Would be grate to see that in class too!! Keep up your amazing work!!

[@foundationartschool]

Thank you, Christian! This is Olivia replying. I am so glad you enjoy the videos and find the animated overlays helpful! We are looking into how we can add these to the class videos as well because they are incredibly helpful in order to demonstrate what Brian is describing on the reference photos. The only limitation is that they are very time consuming to create and edit in. Sometimes I feel like I need 3 of me to do everything we want to do for the school.😅 This is great feedback, so thank you very much and I hope you continue to enjoy the school and KZbin channel!

[@algernonwolfwhistle6351]

This was very informative and interesting. The way that the lines are not parallel when the head is in a higher or lower position was something new to me. Thanks.

[@foundationartschool]

I'll be making videos that talk about that more in the future. Sometimes the lines can be parallel. It has to do with the amount of perspective in the photo. Or how close or how far away the viewer is from the object being drawn. I always recommend studying perspective because it is the basis for all representational art. But if you think about two point perspective and consider the vanishing points for a box, if the vanishing points are closer to the box then the way the lines are angled becomes more extreme. They are still parallel but in perspective. If you move the points farther away from the box then the lines will begin to flatten out and appear more parallel. When taking a photo, if the camera is right up on an object then the perspective will be more extreme and the vanishing points will be closer to the object. But if you stand farther back and zoom in on something then things will flatten out and the vanishing points will move farther away. Sorry this got so long.

[@blackpoppymagazine]

What id like to know is, and which has confused me is does this mean U don't start with the centre horizontal line,, and divide from there, but with the hairline? This makes more sense I think, but I've always started from that centre horizontal line and split 3rds from that which is causing me problems! I start with a centre horizonta; from the circle, then i add a third being the jaw bit. But u see, to make the oval shape, and add your divisions.Thank U for great videos!

[@awnozshakya]

this was really really helpful

[@foundationartschool]

Awesome! Thanks for letting me know.

[@kevingomezart]

These are great videos!! Cant wait till you get to drawing the eyes, mine always look flat when i draw them.

[@foundationartschool]

Eyes are still a few videos away at least but we'll get there.

[@loccodavid7639]

Hello Brian, thanks for the videos!! the vertical line of the change of plane of the face is located at the temporal? And where is it located on the jawbone? thanks in advance. david from belgium

[@alicereed5368]

But how are you getting the distances of, say, the browline, length from brow to chin??

[@CHIDU]

Thank you so much for this video Brian😭, definitely looking forward to this week's video. You definitely gained a subcriber in me🤎

[@foundationartschool]

You are very welcome! We are looking forward to releasing the next video. Thanks for subscribing! 😄🙌

[@RiteshBhgt28]

very nice ... i think you have to attach the given references too so masses should practice from them....

[@foundationartschool]

I don't know if we are going to give out the photo reference but i meant to upload photos of the drawing to the community tab. I'll try to remember to do that later.

[@Germania9]

Hi, Brian! What's the update on the library subscription?

[@foundationartschool]

Its in development now but still another 3 or 4 months away from being completed. We will post updates as we get closer to that time.

[@elperroruso3539]

Hey Brian. This is a wonderfull video! I've been following you for a long time, taking numerous online courses on the wattsatelier and I am very fond of your work. I would apreciate greatly if you could tell me where you get your photo references for portraits since I really strugle to find well light faces to draw. If that's not possible, is there any websites that you recomend? Thank you very much in advance.

[@foundationartschool]

We shoot all of our own reference photos so the only place you can get them is by taking a class at Foundation Art School. There are a lot of other places around that sell reference packs though. A lot of them don't have the best lighting or have really difficult lighting but are still good for learning construction. I can't think of any off the top of my head that I know for sure have lighting that is conducive to learning but between Proko, Grafit Studio, and Croquis Cafe, I'm sure you can probably find some. You just might have to spend some time looking through what they have and picking the stuff that has the type of lighting you're looking for.

[@timoneek444]

Please, come back!!!!

[@foundationartschool]

We will! We're building a new feature on our website and plan to make more videos after that project is complete. We'll still continue our live streams every Wednesday, so you can definitely join us for those!

[@kaitlindeanne]

Hi Brian! I've been studying "with you" at Watts for a few months now. So excited to find these videos! These explanations are immensely helpful for a beginner like myself. I was so excited to find this that I even went ahead and signed for the head fundamental course. I saw a few people mention already how helpful the animation are. I agree! Also pointing out points on the physical skull I'm finding super helpful. Can't wait for your future videos and to start the head fundamental course! :) One question: Do you know of a good website or resource that has a lot of good portrait photo references like what you're showing here? I really want to try to do as much repetition as I can and much variety as I can so I can practice judging the thirds/angle etc.

[@foundationartschool]

Hi Kaitlin! And welcome to the school. If you like our youtube videos then you'll definitely like the fundamental head class. Starting next week we'll be uploading more youtube videos as well. As for photo reference, students in the fundamental head class will receive 4 photos per week for 5 weeks, so you'll have 20 head photos by the end of the term. With the exception of the first week, i'll be drawing one pose per demo so each week you'll have an extra 3 photos to work from. I always give extra photos each week because its really important to apply the information in the demo to other poses if you have time. When you watch my demo and then work from the same photo it gives you the opportunity to study and copy my decision making and problem solving, which is a great starting point. Working from a different photo/pose will force you to start developing your own problem solving skills and is an important part of the learning process, so i think you have the right idea about finding more photos to work from. Unfortunately i don't know of a great resource for free photo reference. Google image searches might be your best bet. The problem is that the lighting thats typically used for portrait photography isn't great for learning to draw. But thats okay as long as you just practice construction/structure and don't try to take your drawings any farther than that. There's also a place called croquis cafe that has a lot of photos and good poses. Unfortunately the lighting they use isn't great either but, again, if you're just focused on learning construction/structure then it doesn't matter much. I think they charge a yearly fee though. There's also a site at quickposes.com that is a free quicksketch practice page. I think they only have figure reference but you can probably just skip through the photos and find the ones with interesting heads and then just draw the head. Just know that most of their photos have the same lighting problems as the other places i mentioned. Its really difficult to find photos with the type of lighting thats ideal for learning to draw. Let me know if you have any questions and olivia or i will try to answer as soon as we can.

[@kaitlindeanne]

@@foundationartschool Thank you! That helps. Definitely just sticking with construction for now.

[@agfilmwriter2921]

Why doesn’t the center line curve instead of staying straight?

[@foundationartschool]

A lot of people used a curved center line for the head and seem to make it work so I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with that. I was taught to use a straight line and, personally, I find it a lot easier to judge the center line with a straight line and then figure out how things relate to that straight line. For instance, on some head types, the nose and tooth cylinder and chin might sit out in front of the straight center line but once you become familiar with different head types it's pretty easy to spot when that is happening. Figuring out how things relate to the straight line, at least for me, is a lot easier than trying to create a curved center line that perfectly matches the head type that you're trying to draw. But I think that has a lot to do with how one learns initially and what makes the most sense to you.

[@BeansJones-y9t]

Brian! there is a 404 error on your sign up link in the description!

[@foundationartschool]

Hi Beans, I'll check that out! Thanks for letting me know🙌

[@蔡風燕]

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[@sudeshvlogs2170]

start making videos sir please.

[@foundationartschool]

There are more videos coming soon. We are currently in the process of redesigning our website and how our school functions. When we relaunch the school in a few months we'll be very focused on KZbin. In the meantime I would recommend watching the past livestream videos. I know they're long but each one is a full demo with a ton of good info.

[@averagejoe9591]

Bro when is the next video the anticipation is killing me

[@foundationartschool]

The next part of this tutorial series will come out on Tuesday. I hope it will be well worth the wait! 😄