How To Find The Perfect Desk // Why I choose Zaor Miza

[@tb80038]

This set up looks amazing, congrats on the new space. You are gonna kill it in that room!

[@Rainersherwood]

Man I’ve been going through pretty much the same exact things. Similar need for lots of “desktop” items. I started with an adjustable height desk like you showed. Never used it either haha. Now am using work benches at slightly higher than normal desk height because I’m also 6’4”, or just under 2m. They work ok but I’ve been looking for so long for the right upgrade in desk. But it’s so hard to know if it’ll work for someone with long ass legs, someone who prefers a higher seating position, and still have it be high enough to not hurt my back when standing. Seems like you found the right solution for guys like us. Thanks man.

[@daftdj123]

I took months to look for the perfect desk and never found something that suit to me. So I ended building my own. I had no skills at all, so I can now say that it's easier than you might think :)

[@rob.carrillo]

You wanna give us a hint?

[@OoraMusic]

wanna see that!!

[@daftdj123]

@@OoraMusic I designed it on Sketchup then cut the pieces on CNC. It cost me less than 300€ :) can’t put a link over here unfortunately :/

[@kaeptn]

@@daftdj123 just exchange the dots for (dot) in the link

[@robblissism]

This is the way! Years ago I realised that I was never going to get a desk that suited all my uses (+ my dimensions!) so I've always built or modified my own. The cheapest option is reclaimed wood and internal firedoors or kitchen worktops are perfect. I've just built an office desk extension with a semicircular cutout from an internal door that cost me £30 (about the same in € or $ these days) including delivery. So much easier and more comfortable with multiple computers/devices.

[@GurtTarctor]

I really like the Ikea crank handle standing desk that I got. If you don't need quick sit/stand adjustment but want something you can set to the perfect height for your needs without spending a ton of money then it's a great option IMO.

[@OoraMusic]

in that sense, standing desks are great, you can tailor the perfect height!

[@anastasia0zardonova]

I have a raising desk, because its actually my workspace for other Things too. I found the raising function particularly useful when recording other people. I dont have to geht extra chairs, the Energy stays high and for inbetween listening the Monitors are at a better height for everyone to hear Well. Have a great day!

[@OoraMusic]

that is really a great point. keep the energy flows is important!

[@g3cd]

I got a Wave Nature Studio Desk made in Germany, as it has 2x 10U + 2x 2U rackspace on top and 2x 12U below (that I use for loads of drawers for the myriads of cables I have), it has an awful lot of real estate into a 2.10 x 0.96m desk. It did take 5 months to deliver though and was quite pricey for skmething made out of plywood (still less expensive than others).

[@OoraMusic]

it is super beautiful I have to say!

[@digitakt8086]

Hej, thx for sharing this. Experienced the same for my way of working in the studio. ergonomics, workflow, style and cable management were my topics. Don´t know why it is like this (for me); I am working from left to right. Seq. Programming and synths to the left and pedals, modules Fx. then the further you go towards the right hand side it´s the mixer and finally the recording part. My solution is an L and I can reach everything from my sitting position. Reaching all cables from the back end side is as well important and fastens up your workflow. Nobody wants to move gear from a to b, while being in a creative momentum. I always leave some extra space for a book, an A4 for notes and some space for drinks and parking a headphone.

[@RickyTinez]

Damn.. on my output desk my shoulders are either shrugging really high or the keyboard tray is on my lap and too low haha. I totally agreee with what you said

[@Richard_P_James]

I've decided against the Output desk as the 19" rack mounts would have been better at an angle - both visually and practically, as the controls on the lowest rack 19" unit is going to be difficult to manipulate.

[@zebastian21]

good to know all this, I wanted one but I also didn't care for the rack space . ergonomics is everything !!!

[@OoraMusic]

I remember we briefly talked about that some time ago Ricky. Still look pretty amazing tho :)

[@OBZ]

Question: The bar on the floor that connects the legs of the desk... is that optional? I'd love to have my sustain pedal there, but that bar seems like it would just get in the way. If I choose not to install that, would it cause any issues?

[@OoraMusic]

no it comes with it, not sue if you can remove it

[@OBZ]

@@OoraMusic Oh I see. Has it been an issue for you with your sustain pedal?

[@BlackMan614]

Wow... you got some nice outboard gear there... Eventide, SSL, Modular Channel(?) and is that a Lexicon Prime Time? Plus the Space Echo. You got it going!!

[@OoraMusic]

yes, long time owning some of those pieces. had more outboard but sold it and kept the only thing I use.

[@BlackMan614]

@@OoraMusic You kept the good ones for sure. Can't wait for the video going over your signal chain.

[@mutantmanfred]

Great desk. Thanks for video!

[@OoraMusic]

thanks for watching

[@AndreaCiaba]

Can't wait to see how many headaches you had to face to route all that stuff around 😂 The Oxi One is just unplugged or you're using it via Bluetooth? That's kinda cool to have a battery powered/wireless midi sequencer to bring it around the room. Would be cool to have access to all that stuff while relaxing on a sofa and noodling with it

[@pietruh13pl]

This is great series. I hope for video about the godfather, I am eyeing it for mastering/mixing hardware synths.

[@OoraMusic]

working on it right now. beautiful piece of hardware.

[@TMeier]

I spot a Godfather on your desk!

[@OoraMusic]

just got it yesterday. amazing piece!!!

[@klinkske]

I have 2, the earlier models. The drawer has sides on mine. I think they changed that to save money. I was thinking about buying a 3th but it is just too big. Verry very happy with them

[@OoraMusic]

still loving mine, but the drawer bent a little, maybe need to fix that

[@Fjordjumper]

Love workspace talk. Thanks for this! What chair is that you're using? I'm in the market

[@OoraMusic]

Thanks! that chair is , I think, an Herman miller knock off. They lend it to me , I am waiting for a hag capisco chair.

[@bedroom2stadium]

thanks! what monitor stands are you using? they seem so great!

[@OoraMusic]

they are zaor miza stands mk2

[@orchidsvoid]

I've built my desk myself but it's not perfect. Next one will be with electric motors to change height of it whenever I want. Sometimes I like to sit, sometimes I like to stand 😂 What machine on the left on the table (upfront of modular rack)??? Looks extremely interesting!

[@OoraMusic]

it is the Enjoy electronics Godfather!

[@orchidsvoid]

@@OoraMusic thank you mate ♥️

[@sixstab2967]

thank you for this amazing video ! I subbed. i learned a lot and enjoyed watching all the gear. Question, do you have ergonomic problems when you sit at the desk while the keyboard tray is under it ? As in, does it impede sitting correctly while using for example mouse and keyboard while looking at the monitor screen while not using the midi keyboard. Its a big purchase for me and im seriously looking at buying this. Thank you !

[@OoraMusic]

Not with the zaor. Had issue with the output desk being very tall. This one is really well balanced ergonomically!

[@sixstab2967]

@@OoraMusic thank you that helps! Its either buying this or going the "do it yourself route". I saw a few comments that after a long while the wood veneer is coming off on some places. Have you experienced this yourself? Finally, is there any other style/setup of desk you would reccomend me ? I use a 88key midi keyboard. Thank you again for taking the time and awesome channel! 🐙

[@arenreiser3643]

Pls Show us some perkons Jams. Its so rare to See here . Maybe in patreon? Or in yt shorts Danke ❤

[@OoraMusic]

Definitely coming! I am working on something :)

[@FuZZbaLLbee]

For a standing desk, would pick an IKEA IDÅSEN. Most standing desks wobble from front to back. But this one is very stable because of the feet design.

[@OoraMusic]

saw that, really nice!

[@BōDHiO98]

Question! You mentioned using the model 1 with a patch bay. How do you have that set up given the way it’s I/O is configured? Studio is looking beautiful!

[@OoraMusic]

The model1 enter in the patchy as 2 stereo pairs ( main out and cue). Will do a video soon about the setup!

[@FuZZbaLLbee]

@@OoraMusic while on the subject, can you also talk about the Tascam DB25 cable multitrack feature? If you use that

[@Orge77]

I use the DB25 connectors in my setup to run some additional I/O directly to/from my soundcard. I also have most of the inputs and outputs of the model 1 exposed on my patch bay so that I can easily reconfigure how it’s used in my setup. Additionally, I split the inputs to all channels on the model 1 directly to the soundcard so that I can always record the incoming signals. Finally, this also allows me to do some cool stuff with the switchable db25 I/O: 1. I can run plug-ins on my soundcard (or DAW) and apply them to the incoming audio to the model 1. These can be switched in and out just by hitting the db25 selector per channel. 2. I can use my soundcard (or DAW) to generate a submix and then send that to a channel of the model 1. Whilst this isn’t as flexible as a full on mixing desk it does give me some flexibility beyond the 6 channels of the model 1. 3. Model 1 is always directly accessible from my DAW.

[@BōDHiO98]

@@Orge77 Badass. Seems the key is having DB25 built in to your interface. I've been running an Apollo Twin for years (in the box production mostly) and think I'm gonna jump ship to a more flexible system sooner than later. Using the Model 1 as you're describing is exactly what I've imagined. It seems like the perfect modern, high quality small format (dub) mixing desk. A way to stem out productions, perform, sculpt and sum them back together using pristine but colourful analog circuitry.

[@Orge77]

@@BōDHiO98 Yeah, whilst I’ve no direct experience with comparably priced/specified mixers from the likes of SSL etc. I presume that it holds its own given that Hawtin and the designers do have a reference on quality summing and channel strips. My sound card is the Orion 32+, which has tons of channels but only just about has enough to support the model 1 and additional I/O! Negative of this setup is quite a lot of cables. I even got some multicore looms made up for both my patch bays and the model 1.

[@McEnroe911]

I hear you on having more surface space. I have the output desk and love it, but I would probably trade the rack spaces for more surface area if I could. What console are you thinking of picking up?

[@OoraMusic]

exactly what I was thinking when I had it. The console is a small Zahl am1. But not sure if I will manage tu pull that off!

[@McEnroe911]

@@OoraMusic damn that’s one sexy mixer. Go for it man life is short🕺

[@EmilioGonzalez-kr1di]

Thanks for the video, what model is the stand monitor ?

[@OoraMusic]

is the zaor miza stand mk2, for now I only on their website.

[@FuZZbaLLbee]

Question, in a lot of techno producer studios I see one of those huge mixing desks. Are those still useful, given modern day hardware? Haha maybe I should have waited to the video to come online 😀 Do you have an eye on a specific mixer?

[@OoraMusic]

:D really depends on your workflow. Here at riverside there are few in the box artist that don't need any desk space for example. I need all in front of me :)

[@JamesRamboPearce]

What screen (monitor) arm do you use? It's got good reach and I think I'm long overdue one :D

[@OoraMusic]

brand is invision!

[@JamesRamboPearce]

@@OoraMusic Amazing that’s what I’ve ordered! Thank you mate

[@LDRCdriver]

Please make a video on the enjoy-lab Godfather

[@OoraMusic]

coming sooooon

[@ichiban8558]

2m Habitat Radius. Solid oak. Will last 500 years. £500 used on eBay. Works for me.

[@OoraMusic]

that is a beautiful one!!

[@iamyourfuture808]

reel to reel and tape echo for show?

[@OoraMusic]

yes man, love to clean the dust on them :)

[@iamyourfuture808]

@@OoraMusic 😆

[@Kahikko]

Ergonomically im not so happy with my miza. The upper shelf is too high for me to really work long sessions with keyb&mouse even if i have the chair in highest setting and then u cant get your legs under it cause of the synth shelf

[@OoraMusic]

Being pretty tall I like the height. Also my chair can raise very high, that might be a game changer

[@devondetroit2529]

I would hate a non standing desk, Mainly for my back and posture but also for making music you need to be standing up.. I can always tell music that was made sitting down

[@OoraMusic]

love to stand doing music too

[@smellymala3103]

I just realized the other day in my studio… I have a table saw, I have plywood… what have I been doing!?

[@OoraMusic]

ahah I wish I can use those, I definitely not handy.

[@bahgo]

$1,500 U.S. 😕

[@OoraMusic]

oh in Europe is 800

[@Kfzzzll]

Wrong Desk. There is nothing more to say. Jaspers. ;)

[@alyxgonzales]

no more culture vulture?

[@OoraMusic]

opted to sell it and kept the modular channel!

[@sorayaknox1812]

Hope this aint prying too much but could i ask what speaker stands youre using? They look so sturdy and really pretty