I definitely agree with your assessment of natural colors in heavily pressured streams. I have been fishing Muddy Creek in York County below Woodbine, which a heavily pressured area. I had no luck with white, black, chartruese or orange trout magnets. I ordered a new 120 something piece kit that came with root beer color and that made all the difference. I have been fishing with 6 lb line because that was the lightest available at Wal-Mart when I bought it a few weeks ago. It really is too heavy, IMO. I need to order some 4 lb. That will work much better.
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Sometimes I can get away with heavier line depending on the reel I’m using and how much line is left on the spool. But I hardly ever throw the trout magnet on more than 4lb anymore.
@compa_choo2 жыл бұрын
Is muddy creek good? I recently found it on google maps. Im in york county too ive been trying to find good trout and only thing i really see in york is east branch codorus but looks to always be packed
@TheMcDannells4 жыл бұрын
Another great video man. I usually just fish larger lakes and you’ve helped A TON with how to fish the local streams. Thanks!!!
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
tmcdanne No problem. That’s what the videos are for! To help people learn and try new things.
@TheMcDannells4 жыл бұрын
The Ville Outdoors question, what do you look for in a “good spot” when fishing creeks? Meaning fast or slow water? How deep should the water be? How wide of a deep area do you need, 2ft? 5ft? Any other descriptions of what to look for when casting to a good spot would be really helpful.
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
tmcdanne When I look for a good spot the depth I look for is anywhere from 1-3ft deep for creeks. The size of the hole doesn’t really matter but the fish usually stock up in the deeper holes with slow moving water right before or after moving current. Any obstructions in current like boulders or logs also have slack pools behind them that hold fish also called eddies. One indicator of a good spot is a clump of bubbles drifting on the surface. That is a good sign of oxegynated water that fish like.
@TheMcDannells4 жыл бұрын
The Ville Outdoors thanks again man. Love all the knowledge you are sharing. Really appreciate you helping us to be better outdoorsman.
@CREEKFISHING4234 жыл бұрын
Good video! Just found your channel, subbed! Love the creek fishing channels.
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!!
@Killoer4 жыл бұрын
10:02 Thats what good "Fish" sounds like :) (If you have a mini magnet, is it good to double rig?)
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I haven’t tried the mini magnet yet but I’m looking to try it this fall and spring for trout fishing. From what I heard a double rig works well for trout. I would just put a small split shot in between each one and may do different colors too
@tdebiasio1011 Жыл бұрын
I know this spot! Grew up in phoenixville myself! Maybe I’ll catch you around for opening day!
@TheVilleOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Nice!! I’ll be out and about opening day so who knows where I’ll end up but There’s a chance!!
@tphvictims51014 жыл бұрын
I remember the first time I saw these at the tackle shop they came in a clear plastic tube. I’ve actually caught a catfish as well.
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
That’s cool! I’ve caught a few catfish on these guys as well. They really will catch just about anything lol
@kendalmyers94454 жыл бұрын
Great video man👍. I go to a place called Mountain Vew Park in Grottoes Virginia. They have a small stocked trout pond there. I usually just use bass worms. But since there's trout In there I figured I'd try trout magnets. What are your tips for using trout magnets in a small pond like that? Like would I need ball weights or floating bobbers? Oh and I just have the neon grubs.
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Kendal Myers Thanks for the support! In a small pond like that it depends on how pressured the spot is as well as the temperature of the water. If the spot is pressured the fish won’t be as aggressive so a slow retrieve with natural colors and slight twitches of the rod will do the trick, use that same technique if the water is pretty warm. If the water is fairly cool the trout will be a little more lively and will be more willing to chase a bait that is worked faster with more aggressive twitches of the rod and more flashy colors may work better.
@kendalmyers94454 жыл бұрын
@@TheVilleOutdoors yeah it's pretty pressured since its public. But the water is kind of a dark blue due to some kind of colored die. I dont know if its temp controlled. But I has does have some kind of loud box maybe a feeder or something. I guess I'll just use a solid color.
@noooterscooter43712 жыл бұрын
What size reel are you using? 1000?
@TheVilleOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
This was a 2500 in this video. A Shimano Zurac I believe.
@noooterscooter43712 жыл бұрын
Thx Ville Outdoors... 👍
@atravers3493 жыл бұрын
Are fall fish the same as creek chubs?
@TheVilleOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
They look similar but they are actually part of a separate family. They can grow much bigger than creek chubs and can be much more aggressive chasing after lures than a creek chub would.
@atravers3493 жыл бұрын
@@TheVilleOutdoors thank you!
@Im118ish4 жыл бұрын
Luv throwing them upstream with a bobber (as opposed to a splitshot)around 30" up the line,& just let the current carry it along...I'm up in the Pocono Mountain/Lehigh Valley/Northeastern region of PA~no shortage of moving water. Love the drift tactic cause it can take me places impossible to cast to (without getting in the water) like under bridges (most are loaded with stone ya wouldn't dare walk through)... I typically find pigs hiding in the cold/shade waiting for a meal to drift by& these trout magnets get the job done consistently. They love solid white w/silver jighead this time of year for whatever reason.
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Im118ish Very nice! I would like to use the bobber method more frequently, but around my area there’s not enough moving water to effectively use it. But yea fish of all sorts kill these things. I’m looking to try the mini magnet version to target wild browns in my area
@dadtries6917 Жыл бұрын
Drifting bait iff the bottom is my go to as well. I live in the valley now but was born and raised in the poconos. Most of my trout are from meal worm with a slip shot or 2. Trying out the trout magnet set this Saturday on opening day. I have a lot of luck with floating Rapalas too. Stoked for Saturday lol
@YakubibnEsau4 жыл бұрын
Had to look up what a fall fish is! I'm out in the west, so I've never heard of them. Reminded me of a chub, but those fall fish look like they put up a better fight.
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Some of the big ones can definitely put up a decent fight. After so many they get to be a nuisance 😂
@notoriouscitydiffrerent31454 жыл бұрын
I tried a green with red trout magnet today with 10lb test line it worked I cought a 18inch rainbow sothern Colorado and it abosultly hammered it!
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Glad it worked out for ya!
@brianbenfiet86954 жыл бұрын
I like your Chanel I fill I have learned a lot thank you
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
No problem! Glad I could provide some useful information!
@ryanwilson8047 Жыл бұрын
This type of set up. Is best for river and creek fishing? ,not lake pond?
@TheVilleOutdoors Жыл бұрын
This setup can work for a lake or pond depending on the size and depth. However if the pond or lake has lots of vegetation on the bottom I would recommend using the float that comes with the trout magnet kit and place the float at a length that puts the trout magnet just above the vegetation and using a combination of a slow retrieve and subtle twitches of the rod
@ryanwilson8047 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it thanks man.
@TheVilleOutdoors Жыл бұрын
@@ryanwilson8047 No problem!!
@temijinkahn5112 жыл бұрын
I rig it as a drop shot with a pencil sinker for deep pools. Cast to head of pool and slowly reel it across the bottom with slow twitches.
@TheVilleOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I have not tried that technique before but maybe I will have to try it when I find the situation is right. Thanks for sharing!
@temijinkahn5112 жыл бұрын
@@TheVilleOutdoors works really well. keeps the bait down even in faster water. rarely get snagged. I just tie the pencil sinker with a simple overhand knot. If the sinker does happen to snag, a couple of good tugs and the knot comes loose on the sinker. I use 4pd fluro leader and ten pound braid on my light rod for this type of fishing.
@joshdaywalt58483 жыл бұрын
What wading boots/pants do you recommend? I'm just getting into trout and creek fishing.
@TheVilleOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
I use Frogg Togg Hellbender Waders with the boots attached. They’ve done great for me. Haven’t had any problems
@joshdaywalt58483 жыл бұрын
Cool. Thanks man, I was considering them.
@TheVilleOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
@@joshdaywalt5848 No problem. I’ve had them for a little over a year now and use them at least once a week. They’ve held up good
@escapetherace19433 жыл бұрын
buck naked and only a shirt
@TheVilleOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
@@escapetherace1943 Wouldn’t be my first choice, but to each their own 😂
@todddreher12204 жыл бұрын
That fish you caught that you said had Spike on its head that called a creek chub. Directional a little Scrappers but they make excellent excellent bass bait catfish bait and others. And if you can get them big enough music for northern pike and it will tear them up
@TheVilleOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Yea that one was a Creek Chubs they get those spiky things on there head during the spawning season. I’ve livelined them for catfish in the past with good success and even caught some Flatheads using the Fallfish. Around my area of PA the creeks aren’t rich with bass so it’s difficult to find a good spot to use them for bass. And Northern Pike are completely absent from my area and we have very few Chain Pickerel as well.
@illicitturtle27313 жыл бұрын
Hey, I’ve been using a 10lbs line when using the trout magnet, is it still ok or should I use a lighter one?
@TheVilleOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
10 lbs line would work, but you would lose some casting distance with heavier line like that. When fishing the Trout Magnet I would say 6lb line is the best of both worlds because you can still get good casting distance and it’s still able to handle larger sized fish. On my personal setup I use 4lbs line.
@illicitturtle27313 жыл бұрын
@@TheVilleOutdoors ok, thanks!
@TheVilleOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
@@illicitturtle2731 No problem!
@logankidder64634 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos man will be following the page! Love the information your sharing!
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Always appreciate the subscribe! I’m glad that your finding the info useful!
@davidstock52794 жыл бұрын
Do trout magnets work for largemouth bass too?
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Mottel Stock Trout magnets can work well for juveniles and I’ve even caught almost a 2 pounder on a trout magnet before.
@ferncab3 жыл бұрын
When you’re fishing upstream don’t you just have to turn around to fish down stream?
@TheVilleOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
In some cases yes it would be better to turn around and cast downstream, but sometimes if I’m fishing upstream I’ll purposefully cast further upstream and let my lure drift downstream. This allows it to get deeper into holes where fish could be hiding. Casting downstream can work as well but in spots with more current it creates a little too much drag on the lure to get as deep in the water column as I need it to.
@cakerape4 жыл бұрын
im a beginner and my problem was with this was trying to cast from the shore with the trout magnet....wasnt going anywhere lol using 6lb test i had to put a couple of split shots about 16" above the magnet it seemed to move ok but was probably too many weights.
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Yea the trick to the trout magnet is using lighter line for farther casting distance I usually don’t go above 2-4lb test line when using it. You also want to use an ultralight rod to get the right flex in the pole in order to cast. Split shits can work I wouldn’t use more than one small one
@cakerape4 жыл бұрын
@@TheVilleOutdoors thanks for the reply
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Rdizzle No problem!!
@hvega81994 жыл бұрын
6’6” ultralight 2000 reel. Some call it a 20 reel. 2lb izorline smoke Berkeley teasers. Berkeley atomic tubes. Berkeley mice with small salmon egg hook. Good luck out there.
@gkanyong44573 жыл бұрын
Maybe use a ultralight rod
@robertshowalter553410 ай бұрын
HE'S NOISY WALKING THRU THE STREAM!
@TheVilleOutdoors10 ай бұрын
For trout it’s definitely better to try and be quieter and move slower up the stream, but with seemingly little to no trout and mostly chub and Fallfish around noise doesn’t make too much of a difference. 👍
@fishfishe64964 жыл бұрын
Nice vid! You should try Ridley Creek it’s 🔥 there right now
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Chris Panetta Any sections along Ridley Creek you would recommend? I’ve been there once a few years back not sure where the good spots are.
@jacobcovington6738 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard them called fall fish around Tennessee they are hornhead creek chubs
@TheVilleOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Fallfish are a species of chub, but they are different from other chubs. Fallfish are typically caught in range of the north eastern Atlantic slope from Maine down into Virginia. Fallfish are actually the largest minnow species native to Eastern North America!
@TylerGoesFishing4 жыл бұрын
they have done me pretty well
@josesolis40794 жыл бұрын
Hey bro just a quick tip try and bounce the tip of your rod while your reeling it in it will entice more bites.
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Thanks I’m well aware of this tactic and I’ve mentioned it in other videos where I fish for trout. I always twitch the rod once or twice per cast but I guess it’s hard to tell since the rod tip and my hands aren’t always in the frame.
@josesolis40794 жыл бұрын
@@TheVilleOutdoors ohhh ok nice bro I mean your catching fish either way so your doing great...keep up the great work brother I was just saying what works great for me. I reel and keep jigging all the way back. Good job tho..#FishON
@josesolis40794 жыл бұрын
@@TheVilleOutdoors yep just seen your other vids where you're using the technique that I'm talking about.
@josesolis40794 жыл бұрын
@@TheVilleOutdoors you have great video's bro keep up the Good work.
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
@@josesolis4079 Thanks a lot! I appreciate all the support!
@MountainManKnives644 жыл бұрын
Trout magnets are one of the best baits out there. It's the same concept at fly fishing with a float. By the way, are you using a go pro camera? I ask because it makes the fishing rod bend and twist in a circle when you don't even have a fish on. Very weird looking but good video brother! 👍🏼
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Haha. Yes I am using a go pro camera. Sometimes when I get the rod close to the camera it sort of has the curve effect. Thanks for the support!
@truckskate96774 жыл бұрын
Yea we call them chubs in the northwest but fun to catch!!
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
For sure! Fun to play around with
@chargerfish13 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are a species of chub they can get up to around 20" and are really fun to catch fly fishing when the trout are scarce!
@saltywaltPDX4 жыл бұрын
I have a hard time catching trout! Been watching so many different videos on tips and tricks! But still no luck! 😫
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
You’ll get one soon enough! It took me almost a year after I got really into fishing to catch my first one. Even if you know all the tricks sometimes it’s just about being in the right spot at the right time!
@greasyrails25713 жыл бұрын
use smaller hooks and line 4-6 pound test leader or main..... 4 is best but it breaks eaisly atleast for me
@andrewgilmette47293 жыл бұрын
Don’t think I’ve ever heard someone reel a fish in without completing it.
@lucasramirez62964 жыл бұрын
What is the combo??
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
The rod is a Kunnan 5’ 96 Graphite Classic and the Reel is a Shimano Zuraca 2500F
@Acolis3 жыл бұрын
i dont get it. im doing everything exactly like everyone else. i fished this lure for literally hours, probably hundreds of casts and not even a single bite. i see other people fishing and catching fish. what am i doing wrong?
@TheVilleOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it could be the spot itself is just an unproductive spot. What gear do you pair with it. Heavier line decreases the casting distance and increases visibility to fish. Also would recommend a light rod for more sensitivity. If you would like more tips on working the trout magnet you can check out some of my more recent videos. I’ve done very well using this lure for trout fishing. Wish you the best of luck in your next outing.
@Acolis3 жыл бұрын
@@TheVilleOutdoors i appreciate the words but i give up. its not just the trout magnet, its literally everything. i have spent several hundreds on different lures, baits, rigs, poles etc. nothing works for me.its all a waste of money. i spent $40 today on different lures baits etc. 5 hours out at 3 different locations and i still cant get a bite on anything. it doesnt matter. i trashed my pole and all my gear. i give up. i get that not catching fish is part of fishing and i was happy to just get out of the house for a while but now im starting to hate fishing, i dont look forward to going out and i would rather just stay inside. thanks for the reply but i give up
@TheVilleOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
@@Acolis If you do not enjoy yourself fishing, that is understandable. I’m sure you’ll get back into it later down the road. Sometime it just takes time to figure out different spots. There could be different fishing patterns for each spot/ species that may work when nothing else will. It just takes some time and experience.
@brianpeterson64884 жыл бұрын
There called fall fish?
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Yup. They are the largest species of minnow native to Pennsylvania!
@661godislove74 жыл бұрын
Mono or Fluorocarbon line
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
I always use mono for my spinning reels just because it’s a bit more difficult to use on a spinning reel rather than a baitcaster, but sometimes I’ll use a fluorocarbon leader
@haroldbaker50513 жыл бұрын
Tryed eating fall fish, nasty.
@cameronschweitzer33823 жыл бұрын
I use 10 lb mono and it works perfect
@TheVilleOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Whatever works right!? There’s definitely situations where heavier line works, in my opinion the lighter line is most effective for small streams that are often super clear and shallow. 10lb mono is still on the light side, but I would say anything above 12lb line results would start to decrease.
@timothy_b032 жыл бұрын
fall fish magnet
@TheVilleOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Haha. That is more like it. In some of my other videos I use these same techniques to catch a ton of trout, but this video no trout wanted to play 😅
@vonster223 жыл бұрын
cant the fish wait till your finished explaining how to.... how rude... LOL FISH ON DUDE
@TheVilleOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Haha. Yea these fish had no patience 🤣 Tight lines!
@JB-972 жыл бұрын
Use a weighted bobber and jig it
@TheVilleOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
I’ve used that technique before and it works fairly well. In creeks like this where you have a lot of moving water in spots and not much depth it makes it difficult to rig/fish it that way. But there’s definitely spots where that rug works very well.
@robertshowalter553410 ай бұрын
DID HE EVER GET ANY TROUT ????
@RonMTube3 жыл бұрын
If you can't catch it on a Trout Magnet, you can't catch it. That's what I always say, even if it is an exaggerating
@TheVilleOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Hahah. Your not wrong. If all else fails trout magnet is my go to!
@mushydog3 жыл бұрын
He’s catching chubs
@TheVilleOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Creek Chubs and Fallfish, but yes you are correct
@todddreher12204 жыл бұрын
But when you get that deep pocket area you could also let it fall to the bottom and jig it pop it up and down and that will also entice strikes. There is no trick in a catching Creek chubs. You could use small little jigsaw like that you could use nightcrawlers red worms crickets whatever you can catch them on just about almost anything little spinners. I can go to the Cuyahoga River in Ohio and catch tons of them. Almost every cast. Don't do a instruction video I hate to tell you but you're not there yet. There's many other ways have you seen that besides throwing it out and real and it's 12 or just a basic things that you had already mentioned I can think of three to four other things that you haven't mentioned on how to use it and how to get strikes from it. Not trying to shoot you down I'm just trying to let you know from someone who's caught monster fish like 100-pound stingrays look at my profile picture and all from shore. Nothing from a boat. Big Northern Pikes, Muskie, catfish of all kinds, carp bass small and Largemouth. And many many more even 7 ft black tip sharks which are very hard to find in the ocean without getting out there in a boat. I have tons of pictures of all mind if I can post them I would. Giant alligator gar. Like I said I'm not trying to put you down I'm coming from a to hardcore fisherman like me people are always telling me I need to get my own TV show. How about kitchen and Landing 35 bass in 3 hours. And lost around five of them. And my biggest 7lbs 3oz. Smallest one pound. Can everything in between. I'm down here by the gulf in Texas I wish I could find some Creeks around here to do it too cuz I would love to go catch a bunch of Creek chubs again.
@TheVilleOutdoors4 жыл бұрын
Hey man I appreciate the comment, but don’t think I don’t know how to do more than just catch Creek Chubs. This was not supposed to be a complicated video, I intended it to be basic tips and tricks to help a beginning angler use a cheap lure to catch a bunch of fish. And these are Fallfish not Creek Chubs and there is a trick to catching them because the heater is clear at this time and the spook easy. So spinners would not work in this case because they’re to erratic for the way these fish behave. If I had the money I would travel all around and catch epic saltwater fish too but don’t just go around comparing sizes to every fishermen on KZbin because you think your better than them. Yea good for you, you caught a few sharks. To be honest I don’t care what people say about you or what you’ve caught. Don’t tell me I’m not there yet. I’m slowly growing and there’s plenty of people in this comment section that like and appreciate my content. If your not a fan than go watch another video. I’m just a freshman in college living in Pennsylvania. But I will get to the point where I can travel and catch awesome stuff and I have the know how to do it. My subscribers are gonna keep increasing and I’ll have my own TV show. Please don’t judge someone after you’ve only watched one video.
@robertshowalter553410 ай бұрын
WHERE IS HE FISHING...CAN'T HE ANNOUNCE IT ??
@todddreher12204 жыл бұрын
So far all Creek chubs. Who told you they were fallfish? I've been fishing 458 years fresh and saltwater grew up in Ohio dedicated die hard hardcore fisherman I still am. I'd like to know where that term fall fish came from outside of that it's fall time and you're fishing for them. Those are called Creek chubs look it up not a fall fish any fish you catch in the fall time is a fall fish.
@Kalivath3 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between those fall fish and horny heads?
@TheVilleOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
A Fallfish is the largest member of the chub family. They are native to eastern North America and can grow to much larger size then creek chubs, up to 18 inches in favored environments. Juveniles can look similar to creek chubs, but Fallfish are more silvery in color and lack the dark stripe going down the side of the fish the scientific name is Semotilus corporalis if you would like to look into it yourself. So yes a Fallfish is indeed a species of fish and it is not the same as a Creek Chub, but it is in the same family.
@TheVilleOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Hornyhead chubs are mor native to the Northern central part of the United States where Fallfish are native to the Eastern portion of the states but more common in the northeast. Fallfish grow larger in size compared to the Fallfish and juvenile Hornyhead chubs will have a dark lateral line at the base of the anal fin whereas Fallfish don’t have that. Also Hornyhead chubs have a small barbel in the corner of the mouth and have 8 rays on the dorsal fin and 7 on the anal fin. The Hornyhead chub also has 38-48 lateral scales and a spot on their cadual fin where as those specific features are absent in Fallfish
@littleavocadofarm93563 жыл бұрын
Forceps work great for releasing fish and live more readily than the way you release fish...yikes!!
@TheVilleOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen people use forceps and rip a fish’s jaw clean off. I’ve been fishing for years and I know how to properly release fish. Please watch more than just one video before you decide to judge someone. Thanks