How To Fit And Weld A Lower Quarter Panel Patch - 1930 Ford Model A

Now that the doors are fitting nicely, latch properly, and the new skin has been fitted, its time to work our way to the back of the car. Next on the list of patch panels is the lower quarter panel patch. Almost all Ford Model A's that need rust repair have an issues in this area. The owner of the roadster brought Matt all the necessary panels to patch up his roadster, but they still can have flaws that need to be addressed. Matt walks us through replacing this common patch panel and some extra steps he needed to take to do the job correctly. Let us know down below if you would like to see more videos like this!!
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[@oldguysoldbikes]

For someone who claims he's not a professional, you sure do professional looking work. Fun to watch even though I don't do any body work.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thank you Jack. I am my own worst critic. I look up to people that do much higher quality work than i do and it makes me quite critical.

[@robewalk2]

Matt, like others have said that even though you claim not to be an expert, your work on this old car looks great. Watching yours and other videos makes me appreciate even more that enormous amount of work it takes to restore these old cars. Well done my friend, I hope Aaron really appreciates the work you've put into his classic ride. I hope you and yours are healthy and safe and look forward to your next episode. Cheers from Tennessee.❤️👍😷🍻✌️

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thank you Bob I really appreciate you watching!

[@jimmalkiewicz8286]

Matt, your the best at explaining what you're doing one step at time. Stay busy and stay safe!

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thank you Jim that means a lot!

[@ericargo9157]

I really enjoy watching you do your thing on these old cars. You have a great way of explaining what and why while doing the repairs. I learn a little bit more with each one. Thank you.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching!!!

[@theonebrewster]

Iron Trap Crew, Matt that was a great video. I have done metal work for many years but there is always the need to learn, watching you I learn, thanks to Matt and the Iron Trap crew.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thank you that means a lot!

[@pmr413]

Nice work Matt. These are the types of tips us home garage guys need to learn about. Stay healthy all of you ITG guys. ~Pat

[@justinl2458]

Can’t get enough of these vids. Pro or not you’re kicking ass.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thank you very much!

[@russb3816]

Matt, you may not call yourself a professional, but in my opinion, your work looks very professional. Every time I watch you work, you amaze me. If you ever make it to Connecticut let me know. Would love to meet ya and maybe do lunch someday. Thanks for all the awesome videos

[@Grandpa82547]

The root meaning of '"professional" is someone who gets paid for work. A lot of people get paid for bad work. In that sense, I don't think Matt wants to be "professional". I think he would do the job right whether he got paid or not.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks Russ! I hope to make it up there soon once all this quarantine nonsense is over!

[@robertbartholomew6494]

Great job! I'm building a 31 Roadster and hired a friend who worked in the business for 40 years. After three days of watching my friend work, I seriously wondered how he stayed employed. His work was sub par at best so I paid him and let him know it wasn't working out. Initially I was freaked that maybe I bit off more than I could chew - -searched the net and found your videos. I now have the front sub floor braces installed, floor sub rails, B pillar bracket repaired and am now working on the trunk area braces. Really enjoy working on the car but honestly have watched the Sweetheart Roadster videos Ep 7 thru 12 at least three times each and really enjoy watching! Thanks

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thank you Robert I’m glad you’re able to tackle some projects with the help of our videos!

[@bobwoodhams7242]

Matt you said you are not an expert on this stuff.... I think you are a very great metal shaper.... you do the best of anyone I know …. thanks for showing every thing you do

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks Bob. I’m an amateur compared to a lot of the higher end guys I look up to. Just trying to get better each project.

[@alshotrodgarage4779]

By the time you got to sanding with the D.A. It looks like one panel. Awesome job!

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks Alan!

[@unchained20000000]

I am so glad you guys are keeping these ancient beings alive. I love model a's and t's. Willys jeeps & chopper motorcycles. It is fantastic to see them alive and well thanks to people like you.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thank you we’re enjoying saving them!

[@briananderinlarson5318]

Videos like this one are the biggest reason I like your channel. Inspirational!

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thank you for the encouragement Brian. We get mixed reviews on these and it's good to know we have a percentage that enjoy them. Thanks!

[@dennissheridan8836]

Matt, I'm up to 15:13 and ,so far, you haven't deployed any hearing protection which bugs the hell out of me. I spend twenty years in the Air Force working on radar, the cabinet blowers and and noisy antenna drive systems ruined my ears. I have tinnitus and hear hearing aids, protect your ears or look forward to stuffing something in your ears every morning and having that something telling you to change the battery at inopportune moments. I agree with Jack you do good work.

[@robertszymanski7804]

Hi Matt, I worked for an engineer who always said "if you know a little about a subject more than the guy next to you that makes you the expert" and that was good advice. Although I get it, the artist/builder always holds the bar higher for himself. He always can see his shortcomings where others do not. Great job the cars going to look awesome, Cheers!!

[@IronTrapGarage]

That’s the only way to push yourself to do better. If you settle for sub par work that’s all you will do!

[@billbeyer657]

You may not consider yourself an ‘expert’ or a ‘professional’ but you’re an incredibly talented amateur. Amazing work Matt. 👍

[@georgeparker9977]

Hi, we didn't have MIG's in those days only gas welding. Lenco was as close as we could come to factory spot welds. It is amazing how much metal working equipment has evolved since then. One of the shops in my area (Rhode Island) actually had instead if tanks of acetylene an actual gas generator. Lime was heated in a brazier as needed. Thanks for the response, I wrote to you awhile ago, I built an exact twin to your '39 with a 272 6 volt engine. Thanks again.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Wow never heard of the lime thing there new to me! How cool you had a similar car! I bet it was a blast to drive!

[@gordonhenagar6652]

Man you are patient with that, I learn something every time I watch, thanks.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks so much!

[@danielrunge7294]

It takes alot of courage to put yourself out there in videos like this. Always have critics and such lol. Your's are some of the better videos out there though. Thank's for putting them on.

[@REMBRANTTUBE]

KEEP THESE VIDS COMING MATT! ...GREAT JOB!! ...I LOVE THE RONNIE JAMES DIO/BLACK SABBATH IN THE BACKGROUND!!!

[@IronTrapGarage]

DioSabbath is one of my favs!

[@REMBRANTTUBE]

@@IronTrapGarage ME TOO!!

[@jeffryblackmon4846]

Any further and similar body work that you record will be a learning experience for many of us. Thanks for this video.

[@patmclean1951]

I wasn't aware that shrinker discs existed...very cool. keep up with the grit overlay headings, very informative :)

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching!

[@motorfreaknew]

Matt is always a pleasure to see you at work, and the explanations of the works you are performing are very interesting

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching!

[@JSxxxxxxx]

Legend Matt - thanks for the longer videos ... been stood down from my job all this is really helping with seemingly endless quarantine

[@IronTrapGarage]

We’re glad it helps a little bit!

[@stevenpdxedu]

You make it look easy. Sign of a pro.

[@50shadesofrust65]

Nice fix on the panel. Tools and talent make it look easy.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks Carl!

[@davidkimsey9591]

Nice work as always. Thanks for showing how you used the shrinking disc! You’ve inspired me to try one on some damage on my my old rust bucket.

[@IronTrapGarage]

We have the link in our video description if you want to check them out!

[@christopherdixon6781]

Excellent lesson on managing oil canning and use of shrinking disc and welder: i'm going to get me one of those disks, THANK you Matt!

[@IronTrapGarage]

Glad it was helpful!

[@MartinSBrown-tp9ji]

I like the way you show the details of the fantastic work you are doing on the sheet mettle welding, looks great. ,

[@keithperry8098]

Very nice blend on the bead. Expert quality👌

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks Keith!

[@flatjan8030]

you made that one look easy. took me some days to get my doors looking and locking good

[@IronTrapGarage]

The videos make it look quick and easy. Majority of these take a day or two to film!!!

[@slatebeltsalvage8234]

A shrinking disc!! Thanx for showing me this. I have yet to do body work but want to learn and this is a tool I've never seen.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Glad it was helpful!

[@lelandrogers1078]

Times have certainly changed. Back in the '50s a cousin of mine did repair work in his back yard. To fill holes and put in small panels he used an acetylene torch and a coat hanger for welding rod.

[@beealzebub4338]

Thanks for the music delete during the work. Much more enjoyable without the noise (like early videos). Good video.

[@steveanderson5888]

Finally you played some decent music in your video. That patch looks like it belongs there keep up the great work and stay away from that virus that might get you

[@paulbtracy]

looks a lot better, I have learnt a lot about metal moving under welder heat, cool.

[@glennwilbur2546]

Really enjoyed your commentary as you problem solve outloud with issues I may not have understood in the past . Keep those videos coming !

[@johnpaszko3762]

Matt, great job installation on the door skin and lower body patch panel! Love your vids, keep up the great work! JP JR.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching!

[@johnjason7204]

Matt can you steal the body line nose from the rusty piece you pulled off? Add that tip to the front --- just a thought... great work and a pleasure to watch especially during the crisis.

[@colinstables]

John Jason I’ve done about 30 patches while iso, all are cut from doors etc so that the folds and curves match and inform around that eg on a gm Holden the right rear quarter wheel arch fits the drivers front wheel arch, so rr door coach line became lf guard coachline

[@IronTrapGarage]

Definitely could have, but I consulted with the owner and he was one as it was. Trying to keep the cost and time down on this one

[@dustintitterington1856]

Having been into cars and having done a fair bit of metal fabrication and body work. Your work looks very professional to me. Nice work! Appreciate the content 👊🏻

[@psullivan613]

Good call on making 1 piece at the front of the wheel well. Enjoyed your solutions, I might have tried to save the previous repair, glad you didn’t. Enjoying your videos, gives me confidence to try some of this myself.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching. Our goal is met if it gets others working on stuff themselves!

[@sethcarley1446]

HEY MATT AND THE GUYS ,,, LOVE THESE VIDEOS AND YOU SHOW US HOW WE AS HOME BUILDERS CAN DO THESE THINGS ,,I LOVE THE GUITAR , BASS AND DRUMS AS BACKGROUND ,, WHO AM I MISSING THAT'S DOING ALL THAT GREAT STUFF . REALLY GREAT ,,, SETH CARLEY TRUMBULL CT

[@brianhdueck3372]

Really nice work Matt! a proud owner myself of a 29 A 2 dr sedan about 6 weeks back. Completed 2” chop and about half done putting together a smooth metal roof with another 1 1/2” chop. Nothing radical, just a hot rod. It came with a Chevette front end of all things cobbled to GM 10” drums.

[@dondesnoo1771]

65years ago hung out kerwiens body Englewood nj he had a boiling lead pot always cooking was an art in its own .I have a copper tip for bernzomatic will use for tiny holes often seen on a hood weather than welding. Can't believe your that particular on a driver .

[@andrewwilson8317]

Nice work,give yourself a high five for that one.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thank you!

[@protc]

It's cool how you know how the panel will react as you weld it.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Once we weld in so many panels you know how the metal with react with heat. Thanks for watching!!

[@mickquick]

It’s always good to see how it done Matt keep it going especially as a good lot of us are locked in 👍

[@georgeparker9977]

Great to see you "carrying on" with old style metal work. I started in 1957. May I suggest an alternative seam technique. EASTWOOD flange tool (we used to call them stepping tools). A flanged overlapped seam is much stronger and in some ways easier to install. Please keep the tradition alive.

[@IronTrapGarage]

A flanged overlapped patch panel adds a pocket for rust and also doesn’t allow you to hammer and dolly the panel and adjust the shape since it is then double thick. I don’t like to do those types of repairs myself but I know some people do them. Thanks for watching

[@PlanetMojo]

That was pretty awesome! My brother is a professional bodyman, and it always amazes me how you guys work with metal. Keep up the good work and stay safe!

[@AndyGeesGarage]

Thanks again for putting this info out there. I’m going to use all of this when I do the rear body panel on my T

[@IronTrapGarage]

Glad it helped!

[@joedyer8824]

Nice job Matt way to hold to detail.

[@trikejunkie]

Another great video Matt , I need to replace this panel in my coupe -PERFECT ,now I have a how to video to reference.Stay safe Matt.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Glad we could help!!!

[@waynespiteri122]

Mate, you always teach something new, I hang out to see your vids. Thank you.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thank you Wayne it means a lot!

[@Doubleodude]

These are the most helpful videos. Thank you so much man.

[@marksaunders2398]

Love your work Matt

[@burgesspaul1]

Love watching this video you explain what your doing to detail and what you expect from the metal. You could learn a lot by watching you work, Your a pro in your work. (Stay Safe)!

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching!!!

[@brandonlink6568]

Thanks for the informative video. I have a rust bucket I want to try and save but I've never welded before, I learned some good tips here.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Good luck on your project!!!!

[@brandonlink6568]

@@IronTrapGarage Thanks! I'm definitely gonna need it.

[@roygabriel.2753]

Excellent video . I really enjoy this format . Thanks again and keep them coming.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks Roy!

[@Titsmorone]

I learn more and more every time I watch your videos. Thanks Matt

[@IronTrapGarage]

Glad it helps!

[@mick_1949]

Nice work Matt. 👍

[@53chevsled]

Nice work and some good advice and tips on welding in patch panels.😎👍👍

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching

[@MrStacy1974]

You do really good work! My dream rod is a 28-29 coupe, if I could build Robt Williams' Purple People Eater my life would be complete . haha

[@IronTrapGarage]

Haha keep ahold of that dream!

[@Chevyv8man1]

Hey Matt, I really enjoyed this video. Any how to videos make my day. I really enjoy the little detail (how to) points like how to get the warpage out of the panel. They are interesting and may help out a lot in future stuff I do. Thanks - later

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks Marvin that’s why we do these I hope it helps others in their projects!

[@jerrymatthews8968]

I think you did a very nice job on panel, good video.

[@mikeycunningham2307]

Nice repair take care and stay safe see ya in the next one

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching

[@tedhewitt4299]

It came out very good Matt.

[@chrisschofield5310]

nice job Matt that rust repair the fit and finish top work keep up the good work looking forward to the next video regards Chris S NSW Australia

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks Chris!

[@robertbusack2100]

Great work I like Rainbow in the rust as well!!! Just kidding I am an old school bodyman that used lead for a while but when plastic/ black magic filler came out It didnt seem right but it was a damn bit faster !! And I worked at gm Caddy dealership. You know what I mean? keep up the fantastic work!!

[@dennisc.1189]

Matt, the panel looks good, nothing is perfect.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks! I’m just extremely critical. I look up to guys that make every panel perfect and I always want to do that but it isn’t necessary on all projects.

[@jimalexander1896]

Matt you do good and your welding is improving sheet metal is hard to weld anyway it's looking good thanks

[@Horacio-Lorenzo]

Very Nice work,Matt is Master!! Saludos y bendiciones desde Buenos Aires Argentina

[@makenzieburnette1582]

Love your work ethic man do it right or not at all is something i live by

[@robertstuhr5436]

Excellent video...I sure wish I had your metal working talent !

[@IronTrapGarage]

All it takes is practice and willing to learn!

[@davidmspinelli8951]

Nice work Matt. I appreciate the tips a lot. Just about to start work on my 33 Chevy and tons of your info will be used as I am pretty much virgin to welding body panels. Thankfully my car is pretty solid with exception to the lower rear quarter panels and the lower left A pillar.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Glad it helped!

[@study650]

That looks really good.

[@tomrichardson2099]

Great video Matt, you explain your thoughts very well. Informative for sure.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching

[@BoxcarsGarage]

Love those tips.... I'm heading out to my shop to finish up my "ITG (ish)" chassis table.

[@IronTrapGarage]

Sweet!

[@lagledavid4353]

YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB. GOOD KNOWLEDGE SITE. .

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching

[@gregoryware7636]

Awesome tech video's Matt! Very helpful Thanks! Greg .

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching Greg!

[@robertwayne2004]

Great share thanks from a friend in Canada Rob ✌

[@70SS4TJ]

Very helpful video - thanks. Terry from Texas!!!

[@nosnerd1967]

Love your shop buddy ... been following since day 2 .... keep up the great content .

[@JamesDavis-to1hn]

Great job on that panel Mike!

[@chrismiller7221]

Amazing video as always. Keep up the good work

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching

[@richardt2k1]

Thanks for sharing. Interesting body work. I’m going to need my nephew to do this stuff for me. 😳😉

[@mattomon1045]

It is looking great.

[@nosnerd1967]

Thanks so much for sharing your settings . consider a review of your TIG200 ? after owning for a few years ...

[@bladerunner6282]

super good information. well done!

[@JimWatsonTheframingMagician]

Hi Mat and thanks for the video. I get the impression you have some carpentry experience. You use terms like witness marks, bead, reveal and valley when working on the car all of which are wood working and structure framing terms.

[@IronTrapGarage]

I’m actual horrible at wood working! Haha just terms I’ve picked up from other metal workers haha

[@randynaser7288]

Another great informative video! Thanks

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks for watching

[@bigears4426]

Someone who's not full of himself , but has ability

[@garytkatranis2542]

NICE WORK GOOD JOB

[@johnwarkentinnikiskialaska8364]

Very nice job 👍

[@ironcatalystcs]

I use a torch and a sponge and bucket of water to take out the oil canned areas

[@IronTrapGarage]

Torch is a very aggressive way to do it and tends to ultra heat small areas. That is good for pinpoint shrinking but in this case a big area needed shrunk so the shrinking disc is a less aggressive way to do it. I also don’t like shocking a panel with water or cool area as it tends to work harden those areas. Just my opinion but whatever works for you is the way to do it!

[@michaelstagar525]

Great Job

[@garyparker2969]

5,000% Better than What You Took Out Buddy, KUTAW !! Stay Safe n Healthy n Blessed.

[@Grandpa82547]

Matt, I'd like to see a "boring" explanation of how the shrink grinder works.

[@IronTrapGarage]

I believe we did a bit during the Free-T build but I’ll try and shoot a bit on it here one day soon

[@paulgunter1538]

Another great video Matt !

[@IronTrapGarage]

Thanks Paul!

[@keithkrause3386]

Great patience and attention to detail, wouldn't have known about the gap if you hadn't said anything. When are you going to pull out and wash and buff out that 34?

[@IronTrapGarage]

Once we get the interior done and get it driving out under its own power.

[@836dmar]

Great work. Wondering if on a car with this panel, the wheel well, and the rear corner all needing patching(as this and mine needs), would it be best, for stability, to replace the front and corner before the wheel well? You masterfully averted any disasters but just trying to prioritize to retain as much info as possible - like how the well it is tacked to the subframe. Long-time viewer rewatching some older stuff. Thanks for all the info!