How To Fit Extra Plug Sockets...BEGINNERS GUIDE | - How To Add A Spur Socket To A Ring Main

[@CubicSumo]

Are you allowed the run cables across the wall like that? I was under the impression they had to be straight up or down to the top or bottom of the walll?

[@dom1157]

This guys a brilliant plasterer i learnt off most of hes videos didnt realise he done other trades tho fair play 👍

[@Ninfiaify]

Actually terrifying to think how easy that would be to drill into and wouldn't even know it's there.. I've always guessed where wires run, assuming they were straight up into the ceiling from the socket only and assumed they'd be protected by metal plates.. 😅

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

Black to black Red to Red BlueToBits 😂

[@jedzillargaming2910]

This made me laugh un expectedly hard

[@richardeacock2870]

Had a qualified spark fit, test and pass a new fuse board, it kept tripping the main switch. So after having a look myself, he’d wired the shower cable completely wrong. The live was wired to the upstairs ring, yet the neutral was wired to the downstairs neutral bar. And yes I’m fully aware I shouldn’t be going into the fuse board. But I did it safely and made sure all connections were tightened to the correct torque. But because of that it does make me question the words professional and qualified.

[@rocksolid2800]

the wall is so soft. when the wall is RC?

[@stewartbiggie7407]

Would the process be the same if I want to run the cables underneath floorboards? Is there any conduit I would need?

[@rayc1503]

Mechanical protection isn't required. I'd only suggest using it under concrete screed incase circuits need altering in the future. That or if you have an issue with rodents.

[@aidangallacher9049]

Brilliant! Any Sparky's advice here...I have a kitchen socket that when I plug any appliance into it trips all the bottom floor sockets by the mains breaker? Any ideas? Thinking from this vid it may need the box earthed? Will check again but when I checked no loose wires and everything where it should (wasn't aware of earthing back box at that time so will check) cheers

[@simonfisher836]

I thought you had to put armour protection in for a wire like that otherwise anyone could put a drill straight through it, especially at that height.

[@rob6rr]

Nice video mate. Could i use undercoat plaster instead of bonding to fill out the chase? Got some spare which would save buying a whole bag of bonding for a small job

[@deltasunrise8562]

brilliant video - i'm getting conflicting advice from different sources. it seems you don't need to get an electrician to sign off / or notify building control if you are simply adding a socket to an existing ring, is this correct? i'm a little hesitant to do any electrical DIY if its not legal. what can i do / not do by myself?

[@CarlosFandandgo]

You only need sign off for outdoor work or special locations, or for any new circuits. So you can add sockets to existing circuits, change switches, light fittings, repair cable etc. And then the word "special location" is ambiguous as well. A bathroom is a special location, but not all of it - anything above 2.25m is not classed as a special location so in a 2.4m ceiling you can change light fittings for example.

[@CarlosFandandgo]

@@jameshansing5396 it isn’t nonsense. Have a read of the regs. Special location doesn’t include anything above 2.25m. Just the same as the bathroom zones.

[@CarlosFandandgo]

@@jameshansing5396 “(c) any addition or alteration to existing circuits in a special location. -(9) In this regulation “special location” means- (a) within a room containing a bath or shower, the space surrounding a bath tap or shower head, where the space extends- (i) vertically from the finished floor level to- (aa) a height of 2.25 metres; or (bb) the position of the shower head where it is attached to a wall or ceiling at a point higher than 2.25 metres from that level; and (ii) horizontally- (aa) where there is a bath tub or shower tray, from the edge of the bath tub or shower tray to a distance of 0.6 metres; or (bb) where there is no bath tub or shower tray, from the centre point of the shower head where it is attached to the wall or ceiling to a distance of 1.2 metres;”

[@CarlosFandandgo]

@@jameshansing5396 If it was the entire room, the bullet point would just say “any room containing a bath and shower”, as it does for sauna or swimming pool. The fact it continues and mentions the ceiling height means exactly what it says. Nothing above 2.25m is notifiable in a bathroom.

[@CarlosFandandgo]

@@jameshansing5396 Part P, 2.5. Referencing 12(6a).

[@AW-nm8rm]

Jak polaczyles kable ze starego gniazdkaa z nowym kablem?

[@DeeTeaDee]

Nope. Thats me lost

[@nosycatUK]

Terrible music

[@FrankJohnson-ye8lt]

Very useful, but please, a plug is the exact opposite of a socket! Please don't call it a plug socket.

[@jamieriddicks2104]

So is it the exact same if im adding a double socket ? And did u use 3 earth wires in the one socket?

[@AA-re9fk]

Thanks for the video its very informative Can i ask i am moving on to a different wall passing corner of the wall, will it be legal? Thanks

[@paulhart7352]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@MARTINA-gc3tq]

How did you identify it was a ring and not a radial or an intermediate spur?

[@matthewhammond859]

As long as it's in the correct zones and protected by an rcd there is no need for mechanical protection.

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

Fantastic just what I needed 🙏

[@zeldagoblin]

Chasing looks sweet. Never thought of using a multitool for that job. What's the brand? I tried Dewalt and Bosch and the Dewalt burnt the motor out in three months. Bosch is ok but not amazing.

[@robertnesbitt2441]

Hi! I am changing a single socket with a fuse (washing machine) and connecting to a single socket fused (dishwasher ) but red light in washing machine is staying on even when turn off Rob

[@paulmcquaide9146]

Did you skim a whole wall just to add a spured socket.

[@markgilder9990]

I had a situation where a socket had been run from the main switch from the supply side. So even turning the whole of the board off including the main switch, the socket was still live. As you can appreciate this is an extremely dangerous situation for anyone diyer’s and electrician included. That’s why proving dead with the correct equipment is paramount. If in any doubt, leave it alone.

[@plebism]

Doesn’t the cable that’s in the chase need to be either 50mm deep or protected by some capping ?

[@rayc1503]

If the circuit is protected by a 30 mA rcd/rcbo then there's no requirement to have the cable buried deeper than 50mm or have any form of mechanical protection. As this isn't in a special location there's no need to have it signed off. I'd issue a minor works cert for doing an alteration like this.

[@VitalijTitov]

Can I just confirm something. So the earth cable running from the top and ending atbthe bottom. Is it connected with the other earthcables at the bottom and they all going inside socket right?

[@mr.d7372]

What can you do privately without an electrician sign off?

[@frankhovis]

That's a lot of faffing about just for a single socket, I'd of run a ring and double socket if I was going to that much trouble.. and it'll be fun when someone comes to fix up something to that wall and doesn't expect a *completely unprotected* mains cable to be hidden just behind the plaster.

[@oOMXROo]

It's fine

[@Dawgley]

is there a radial version of this video?😊

[@Alexs-DIY]

Why you not cover the cable before plaster

[@matthewmcfadden-m5r]

can it be signed off as minor works

[@Relaxsound0]

yes

[@0SonGoku]

Why didn't you put the cable in a conduit instead of plastering over it?

[@PaddyMcann]

because we're white

[@gregc7699]

I have a single socket with 3 cables of each cables going to each part of the face plate I wanted to channel a new socket but cant put 4 cables in each part of the faceplate is there any other way of doing it? Hope this makes sense ,thanks in advance

[@jayjohal6892]

Spur off a different socket mate

[@rayc1503]

Extend the ring using wago 221 connectors within the backbox or under floorboards or ceiling voids using wago maintenance free boxes. It really does depend on how you want to go about it. Less obtrusive methods are generally under floorboards if you have easy access.

[@jameshansing5396]

get a spark in... ;)

[@gregc7699]

@@rayc1503 not in a flat mate 😂 I think I'll try with wagos should be ok cheers

[@JL-rx6hl]

why didnt you run signal cables or a conduit for them in the wall when you did the chase? how does the tv get its signal feed ?

[@DIYForBeginners]

It’s all digital now mate. We only use Netflix and Prime to be honest…but the wall is the external wall and the Arial runs right from the outside. If we ever change our mind I’ll just run it from the back. To be honest though, I’ve still not watched one film with my wife yet ha! The 2 year old keeps us busy enough 😂

[@andysims4906]

Quite often there is space between the plaster board and wall to run the cable . If there is dabs in the way just cut that bit out. Although it isn’t required by regs it’s always considered bad practice to plaster over cables . Use oval tube . Also never assume the socket you take the spur off is on the ring . Always test that it’s actually on the ring by testing both legs

[@jameshansing5396]

because that would be sh*t?

[@JShamaal]

Thanks for the video. Please, when you put text or caption on the screen next time, put or apply Stroke on the text. Stroke gives the text black or white colour around your text. This is because, if the background is the same as the text, it prevents the part of the text being merged with the background Hope I managed to clarify my point. Thanks

[@grahamd5418]

If you have a brick wall. You are going to ruin everthing with dust and debris throughout your house.

[@alanpeacock1271]

Can i do this to add a socket outside?

[@skyshot.photography]

HI, PLEASE READ THIS TO THE END ITS NOT A CRITICISM!! I liked this video about adding a socket to a ring main. However as an NICEIC approved contractor, I would like to point out a couple of problems. While your mechanical installation was acceptable, how did you know the circuit you were adding to was compliant to the regulations before you added to it? There are tests that need to be carried out before and after the installation and a certificate produced. You cannot just assume a circuit is safe for the additions it MUST be tested first. I won't drone on about what tests here as that would be a discussion for another topic. I thought it was good to say you need to get an electrician in to check the work,but any approved contractor would need to see both the first and second fix to verify the cable zones, I'm constantly asked to do this for diyers and dodgy builders after they have plastered,and the standard answer is no! I dont know if it was your own house or a customer but you must not energise the circuit before its tested, if someone got hurt or you started a fire you could be in serious trouble the laws have tightened so much in the last few years the only way to do DIY electrics, is not to do DIY electrics. It might be a good idea to put out a new video explaining this and tell people to get an NICEIC domestic installer or an approved contractor. I do watch you plastering stuff though its helped me out a lot, with my DIY. And I get pretty good result now. Keep up the good work All the best

[@mikeb1417]

Been in this business a long time and I assure you that you don't need a certificate for this he only added a spur to an existing circuit which is allowed and been an NICEIC approved contractor means shit that protection racket which it ultimately is approve any idiot to be professional even the 5 week wonder course sparks that know nothing get approved by that lot iv seen so much rubbish work by sparks that are approved by the NICEIC.

[@CarlosFandandgo]

Nothing wrong with adding sockets to an existing circuit, or adding spurs. From the "professional" electricians I've paid over the last few years whilst having an extension built, I can assure you hardly any of them do anything differently to me. And in most cases the job they do is not as good as the job I do myself. If electricians didn't rip people off with average work, we wouldn't need so much DIY work to be done.

[@jayjohal6892]

Have you ever been to Thailand 🇹🇭 😂😂

[@jayjohal6892]

i'm feeding my cable under the floorboards as I'm lifting them anyway to add insulation rather than making a mess chasing out the walls

[@Jack0Young]

What was the name of the tool used to cut out the wall?

[@benje302]

It’s a multi tool.

[@sanjivoberoi5361]

Saw a genius hack of doing the same thing but by removing a piece of skirting and drilling behind the drywall and skirting. No need for such a long tedious procedure. Run the cable down, drill through the studs if needed and make a small hole wherever you want your socket and drop or drag up your cables. Put back the skirting, caulk the gap if any and you’re done.

[@theowhite]

Running cable behind skirting is against building regulations, just so you know. Look up electrical cable safe zones for anyone interested

[@jmom687]

What is the grey wire called and what thickness is it ?

[@PaddyMcann]

it says in the vid you mug

[@johnsalter3591]

you should ru power a cross a wall.

[@Killerspieler0815]

When using a mask you should get rid of all beard (shaving as clean as a woman´s face)

[@DIYForBeginners]

Haha good point!

[@bradparis4182]

never knew about 'zoning' great advice thanks

[@garethdavies7951]

You do some really good videos but so many issues and why not extend ring?

[@jameshansing5396]

because you'd end up with a joint in the backbone and no real need..

[@JohnPooley-te9ei]

Nice..D.I.Y & thank u

[@ShoeMage]

Do you not want to check that twin & earth isn't faulty before plastering it all in? Or does that generally not develop any faults?

[@johnsalter3591]

shouldnt

[@dbat3291]

As a double check, having really pulled on the cables screwed into the sockets. I push the socket plate against the back box and screw it in a little way. Then undo and pull the socket away again. You can then see where the cable fold in the back box and also make sure the screw is no where near them. Also, as it is a spur and will only have one cable in each terminal double them over for extra grip.

[@DIYForBeginners]

Great advice...cheers pal!

[@jayjohal6892]

.. Or just pay a sparky £200 and they don't even plaster! 😂😂

[@jameshansing5396]

but it will be done properly and you'll get a minor works cert ;)

[@pipins3616]

@@jameshansing5396who will know

[@mrkgrav]

can you run a spur from a spur?

[@2664k]

You mustn't run a spur from a socket that's already on a spur, or that already supplies a spur.

[@HomerJS_]

Very helpful. Cheers fella ✌️

[@markmanny5320]

Nice one mate helped a lot

[@DIYForBeginners]

No problem 👍

[@DrQuadrivium]

If you need to watch a video and then ask questions you're not competent enough to do this.

[@davidbambrough5962]

great vid

[@Apostate-51]

DANGER! I have so far watched 30 seconds of this tutorial and the first and biggest mistake this bloke makes is NOT (informing us of the absolute priority of) switching off the ring circuit before he starts any work.

[@michaelramstedt3380]

I always test the sockets after with a plug in tester

[@gregc7699]

Me to and always carry a tester pen can't ever be to careful

[@jameshansing5396]

dont fancy testing Zs BEFORE dicking with a circuit?

[@raj080288]

How do we know it the socket is on a ring or radial circuit by looking at the wiring as essentially it will be wired the same

[@leofitzpatrick380]

Check the breaker if it’s 20a will probably be a radial if it’s 32a will be a ring but best to get someone to check

[@garethdavies7951]

@@leofitzpatrick380not if you use 4mm

[@jameshansing5396]

EH?????? @@garethdavies7951

[@jameshansing5396]

1) check the number of cables in the breaker. 2) do your end to end treats, followed by R1+R2...

[@leofitzpatrick380]

@@garethdavies7951 well that’s a different story then isn’t it

[@alunthomas4362]

Brilliantly explained thanks 🙏🏻

[@DIYForBeginners]

Glad it was helpful!

[@DavideAnastasia]

With a conduit it would have been better

[@gregc7699]

Why? A scree would just go right through the conduit plus the channeling would have to be much deeper it's pointless it doesn't go against any UK regs

[@jameshansing5396]

most proper sparks would run it in oval conduit but that's mainly to protect it from clumsy plasterers.@@gregc7699

[@happyguy5414]

The title is completely wrong! You have wired up a light switch not another socket as the title suggests!

[@2664k]

what?

[@davepedantic]

Never thought I’d hear an electrician say “plug socket “. Plugs are plugs, sockets are sockets. There’s no such thing as a plug socket. Call it a mains socket, or a mains outlet, anything but a plug socket !

[@yyl8374]

They are sold as plug sockets in the UK

[@davepedantic]

@@yyl8374 As a member of the IET - Institution of Engineering and Technology, I can assure you that whoever uses that term is incorrect.

[@BestUserNameUK]

He's not a qualified spark, he's a plasterer.

[@davepedantic]

@@yyl8374 No they’re not - Go look at the packaging of these things for proof!