How to fix a rough running four stroke outboard

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Willamette Valley Marine

Willamette Valley Marine

4 жыл бұрын

Diagnosing a rough running four stroke

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@krisjcleveland
@krisjcleveland Жыл бұрын
Worth the effort and time to glean information needed…thanks for sharing
@sacju6517
@sacju6517 Жыл бұрын
Great video. My 8hp runs rough. I upped the idle a little but same issue. Now I know what else to check on it.
@Lzz79326
@Lzz79326 Жыл бұрын
Clear and logical explanation, thx a lot buddy!
@scotthunt187
@scotthunt187 2 жыл бұрын
Should be like a urine stream not a kidney stone stream. 😂😂😂 That analogy had me cracking up. Great video man!
@RonnieTucker1
@RonnieTucker1 2 жыл бұрын
I thought he said 'kid stoned stream' :D
@josteincarlsen2905
@josteincarlsen2905 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Going to try that carb clean tomorrow! My Suzuki 9,9 4stoke also goes like shit
@johnnybehealthy5720
@johnnybehealthy5720 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome show and tell video. I believe I have same exact issue with my 4 stroke 6 HP
@weaselrodent7131
@weaselrodent7131 2 жыл бұрын
wish it was a EFI f60 runs bad but 2015 f60 not alot of info with this motor, good video. happy new year
@MrNegative57
@MrNegative57 2 жыл бұрын
Ok video, would have rather seen removal of the carb, disassembly , cleaning, drying and install instead of difficulty in starting, climbing in and out.
@sdichampion
@sdichampion 10 ай бұрын
You live up to your name
@wedfelt
@wedfelt 9 күн бұрын
Hi, great video. Question though, how did you know the correct setting to reset the carb mixture ?
@brianhiggins7360
@brianhiggins7360 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video- Exactly the issue i am having on a 2105 9.9 Yamaha. Do you happen to have one that shows actually removing the carb, float and pin?
@neillee3793
@neillee3793 3 жыл бұрын
Good work - got the same motor, had the same issue. Also has issue with emergency kill switch perioidically killing the engine - i disconnected the kill switch temporarily and no issues since. Ever hear of this issue?
@SuperDiagnostic
@SuperDiagnostic 12 күн бұрын
Nice one 👌
@cyrielgaemers
@cyrielgaemers 2 жыл бұрын
I like this!
@shadyfieldhomestead1974
@shadyfieldhomestead1974 Ай бұрын
I don’t know about the garden hose issue and hurting the impeller. I couldn’t even use our water because our pressure was less than 20 psi. I brought the psi up to just enough that the engine will piss while running, up to 55 psi. I need all of that pressure for running my engine.
@fishhunt9874
@fishhunt9874 Жыл бұрын
My 2014 9.9 has blown the same water pipe 3 times. This hose springs a leak and sprays a mist of salt water that gets sucked into the carburetor. The engine starts running a little erratically, and then eventually will not run and becomes a hard/no start. I’ve had to remove and clean the carburetor three times. It clogs completely with salt, about a quarter of a teaspoon in the fuel bowl. All of the fuel jets clogged with salt. I only replace with genuine Yamaha parts, but in this case, the same part keeps failing. My next replacement will either be a stainless steel pipe with rubber ends for connections. Or a heavier duty, braided piece of fuel hose instead of the thin rubber OEM “pipe” supplied from Yamaha.
@WogChilli
@WogChilli Жыл бұрын
Do you have a video on setting idle and mixture. Thanks
@mtmonesf
@mtmonesf 3 жыл бұрын
What should you do if you had a stuck valve ?
@TheBluceRee
@TheBluceRee 3 жыл бұрын
Great fucking video. Thank you from starting from the beginning for all of us newbies. This may very well help my problem.
@TheBluceRee
@TheBluceRee 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video that goes past this video. Lets say it WASNT the carburetor. Where do you go next?
@johngraham8052
@johngraham8052 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBluceRee Are you sure it isn't the carb. If you can get the engine running on easystart, petrol you know you have spark and compression. If you have fiddled with the carbs it is best resetting the high and low jets to factory speck (turns out) and then adjusting from there to get a crisp idle and good pull. Plenty of free manuals on-line. I followed the Dangar marine videos and learned how to fix everything on my 2-stroke Yamaha 25. Did you check the compression and what engine?
@TheBluceRee
@TheBluceRee 3 жыл бұрын
@@johngraham8052 it was a hole in a fuel hose. thanks for getting back with me though.
@johngraham8052
@johngraham8052 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBluceRee Modern petrol degrades hoses. You will often see black buts in the fuel filter because of this. Always worth carrying a spare. Air leaks at the carb are also a common problem. Still learning myself.
@glatisant74
@glatisant74 4 ай бұрын
Any useful to verify the pilot screw position against factory spec, before taking the carb down? Cannot that cause bad idle, if wrongly set?
@PN_48
@PN_48 2 жыл бұрын
We’ve got this same engine and are having idle problems. What controls the air intake butterfly? I see some 9.9 Yammy’s have a link to the throttle, but we don’t and just seem to have a solenoid....
@dbarr8261
@dbarr8261 2 жыл бұрын
Does this motor have an air and fuel filter? If so why didn't you check that first?
@timwalworth9059
@timwalworth9059 Жыл бұрын
How did you set the carb idle and mixture?
@NovoGold
@NovoGold 11 ай бұрын
How do you expect it to start with those short key bursts..?
@yeslawrence
@yeslawrence 2 жыл бұрын
anyone just pop that metal plate off while the carb is still connected to the motor and just clean that part of the carb/jets with carb or brake cleaner? seems like that might work though if its not too bad and just needs a little clean up.
@zanepin1
@zanepin1 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at a boat right now he says it has idle issues i wonder what it could be I'm kind of hesitant to buy it
@LongDistanceSailor
@LongDistanceSailor 3 жыл бұрын
You might also find this video useful. Goes into a bit more detail. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5W1oIOCr76jj8U
@stevenichols4060
@stevenichols4060 3 жыл бұрын
In short durations, without water, would it tear fins off water pump impellar?
@johngraham8052
@johngraham8052 3 жыл бұрын
It's bad. Impellers are a replacement item and many people replace each season. If you want to make yours last don't but I would recommend learning how to replace it anyway, it's easy. Get a large drum and fill it with water and put the leg in if you don't want to buy the correct attachment. If you ran for 10 seconds without water you could overheat and damage the head.
@stevenichols4060
@stevenichols4060 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have video just pulling off carb? Its straightforward. I just want to know what tool can quickly unscrew the second bolt thats behind all the crap in way?
@watercool5
@watercool5 3 жыл бұрын
An extension on your socket wrench is all that’s needed.
@stevenichols4060
@stevenichols4060 3 жыл бұрын
@@watercool5 would be awesome if you could do the video because I have a long extension but cannot line it up because the plastic air intake is directly in line with the bolt head. I even tried that pivoting head socket but no good angle to use it either. Every time I have to use wrench from side and back it off at micro intervals and it takes way too long.
@watercool5
@watercool5 3 жыл бұрын
Steve Nichols kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIazgmide7FphNU
@brendanryan6363
@brendanryan6363 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevenichols4060 I'm having the exact same problem. Did you ever get a solution for this mate?
@stevenichols4060
@stevenichols4060 2 жыл бұрын
@@brendanryan6363 Nope. Nobody provided any advice. My Yamaha is starting run rough again so i am going to have to pull carb pretty soon and dreading that bolt. If i remember right you can get a little space if you remove the black plastic on top. If i remember theres about 4 hex head bolts to remove that plastic.
@bhdlp
@bhdlp 3 жыл бұрын
How did you adjust the mix and idle?
@kdl0
@kdl0 Жыл бұрын
same question here ;)
@jrgenrasmussen8840
@jrgenrasmussen8840 3 жыл бұрын
My 15 hp is from 2018 and when i give gas it dies for half a sec then take gas what is the problem. Its done it since New
@ReinierS
@ReinierS 3 жыл бұрын
Means your mixture probably is too rich.
@daha7864
@daha7864 7 ай бұрын
U and Timk should get together 👍🏻
@chriseisele9969
@chriseisele9969 2 жыл бұрын
So is it better to run in 50 gallon barrel so your water pressure is lake realistic?
@CAPTAINWILLY
@CAPTAINWILLY 2 жыл бұрын
The point I was trying to make is that your waterpump is disgned to draw water. Not get forced water. Applying excess water pressure can damage your waterpump and or internal standpipe
@chriseisele9969
@chriseisele9969 2 жыл бұрын
@@CAPTAINWILLY thank you for your information
@larryhart4880
@larryhart4880 3 жыл бұрын
Plugs is almost always easier then a carb rebuild
@steveholley9508
@steveholley9508 3 жыл бұрын
You are from Oregon so am I'm .
@CAPTAINWILLY
@CAPTAINWILLY 3 жыл бұрын
Hell ya brotha
@ronmacdougall9612
@ronmacdougall9612 10 ай бұрын
I wished you went through the whole procedure,good video though
@jimmyg3855
@jimmyg3855 Ай бұрын
Can you be a bit more specific on what a dwell meter is?
@tonisarsero4499
@tonisarsero4499 2 жыл бұрын
PS CAN YOU PLEAS HELP ME
@larryhart4880
@larryhart4880 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes a extra set of hands is always better
@JohnWick-ii9ru
@JohnWick-ii9ru 3 жыл бұрын
Why brake clean? And not carb cleaner?
@CAPTAINWILLY
@CAPTAINWILLY 3 жыл бұрын
Brake clean evaporates faster. It really dosnt matter tho. Could even use moonshine.
@bentramell729
@bentramell729 3 жыл бұрын
@@CAPTAINWILLY hey captain willy when you did the spark test and compression test did you have the water running on the muff cuz it didn't look like it in the video. Just trying to confirm if water needs to be running for those 2 operations, I would assume so but not sure.
@CAPTAINWILLY
@CAPTAINWILLY 3 жыл бұрын
@@bentramell729 so. It wouldnt hurt to have water on it. But heres the thing. The impeller needs water for lube amd the motor needs water to keep from over heating. So really if water was just on it. Like within the hour. Cranking for test with no water wont hurt. But cranking for test on a motor hasnt seen water in days or longer could damage the impeller.
@bentramell729
@bentramell729 3 жыл бұрын
@@CAPTAINWILLY okay, that cleared up my confusion thanks for that clarification.
@hikenmikes8262
@hikenmikes8262 2 жыл бұрын
...if at all possible, don’t own a motor with a carb.
@larrabeejl
@larrabeejl 3 жыл бұрын
NEVER RUN MOTOR WITHOUT WATER EVEN ONLY FOR A COUPLE OF SECONDS.
@CAPTAINWILLY
@CAPTAINWILLY 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Did I?
@larrabeejl
@larrabeejl 3 жыл бұрын
@@CAPTAINWILLY no just someone was asking in the comments if it was ok to do.
@bentramell729
@bentramell729 3 жыл бұрын
@@CAPTAINWILLY I have a 2 stroke mercury 90 hp 88 model and when I bought it the guy put muffs on it, didn't know about too much water pushes rather than pulls, but it was running seemingly good after alot of tries at a hard start, forward and reverse wide open for a few seconds and it was peeing out the tale tale didn't check it at idle though the guy was real fast with the throttle changing directions. So I'm like cool ill buy it then but I get it to the lake, it would start but not idle had to push the lever for idle up but it still wouldn't stay running died after a 5 10 seconds and no water was coming out the tale tale, I wondered if it was far enough down into the water but lot of things going on and people everywhere stressing me out so I just raised it back up and pulled out. Everybody keeps saying its a water pump but im not convinced. Any advice on the situation I just described?
@CAPTAINWILLY
@CAPTAINWILLY 3 жыл бұрын
@@bentramell729 no water from the pisser 9.9 times out of 10 its a failed or weak or permacurved waterpump impeller. Needs replaced. Start looking up videos on lower unit removal. Not idling 9.8 times out of 10 is dirty gummed up idle circuit in the carberators. Sounds like you need to remove it. Take it apart and clean it. As far as advise on crowded water. Im right there with ya. I cant insure my sled and streeses me out big time when im stuck navigating around 100k$ boats.
@bentramell729
@bentramell729 3 жыл бұрын
@@CAPTAINWILLY thanks for the info, ive been researching the removal and reinstall process for hours as well as the right impeller for my engine but coming up bupkis, cant seem to find a video or proper part number at all its getting frustrating. 88 mercury 2 stroke 90 hp outboard, ran the serial number and model number and nothing will give me a straight answer smh. Im certain I can do the impeller procedure if I could just be sure im getting the right impeller, its just removing the lower unit bolts sliding it off with drive shaft removing the water pump cover and reinstall turning it clockwise to make sure the veins spin the right way as you reinstall the cover, the other part ill have to figure out with the carb issue afterward. Idk bought the boat because I thought it had a good engine, totally gutted the interior and redid the entire thing top to bottom myself with new wood and vinyl in less than 3 weeks and here I am doing exactly what I didn't want to do, deal with engine problems. Spent months searching for the right boat before I bought one and thought I found it anyway, thanks for responding and listening to me whine. Lol
@Opelmannen1224
@Opelmannen1224 3 жыл бұрын
Now I know where to bring my outboard if I want my impeller f***ed.
@CAPTAINWILLY
@CAPTAINWILLY 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently you skipped around in the video. Or wasnt paying attention. I intentionally showed steps to take to insure a healthy impeller. Time stamp the. Video where i was f***king the impeller.
@Judith-tg5wb
@Judith-tg5wb 3 жыл бұрын
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@Mr.Monta77
@Mr.Monta77 3 жыл бұрын
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@timbowles6
@timbowles6 3 жыл бұрын
Ask the OP
@mcdls5
@mcdls5 10 ай бұрын
You are so wrong. It's ALL about Bubba. All about Bubba.
@eddieabraham3341
@eddieabraham3341 3 жыл бұрын
U should rename this video REPAIR FOR IDIOTS!!
@jackgresch8663
@jackgresch8663 Жыл бұрын
You talk to much
@CAPTAINWILLY
@CAPTAINWILLY Жыл бұрын
Thankyou
@tonisarsero4499
@tonisarsero4499 2 жыл бұрын
I have a pull start outboard motor and I wont to fit a electric start motor ( SERIAL NUMBER 0N045091) MERCURY MARINE ( 2055 ME30 EMLH ) ( 30 HP )
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