Every plumber will relate to this video…… 100%!!!!! Toilets can be THE most annoying thing sometimes….
@pops6638 Жыл бұрын
I find having a couple of pairs of small mole grips works well with seized/rusty nuts & bolts. Especially in tight places. If the nut doesn’t come off, the grips hold firm enough, to sometimes shear the bolt. A larger pair will sometimes squash what is left of the nut/bolt, so it will then fit through the hole. Loving your channel . Keep the vids coming.
@elliotcooper3955 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. As a plumber myself any siphon toilet I go to now I just change it for a flush valve now make future maintenance a doddle for the next person 👍
@elliotcooper3955 Жыл бұрын
Also loving the kit your using got my eye on a second tool bag and that one your using looks ideal is it a Veto ? If so what model ??
@stephengreen6338 Жыл бұрын
Just come across this vid M J Tiff, really made me smile, I am now a retired plumber, and could relate to this 100%, I never had a multi tool, used 12" hacksaw blade, you had me worried when you was working the nut back & forward so easy to break the thin porcelain, and yes always when your doing a love job, I will be looking out of your vids.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy glad you found my channel and like it… Videos every Wednesday and Sunday at 6pm 👍🏼👍🏼
@mattundercoat Жыл бұрын
Great vid again: plumbing doesn’t get much more real-world than that. Even as a DIY bodger that was familiar. Those jobs that start with “I’ll just…” and end with me using every tool in the house and every expletive in the book. It’s good to know it’s not just me!
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Oh mate, it happens to us all…..
@JR-1983 Жыл бұрын
As a flooring fitter I often fit customers own vinyl that they have paid £20 for and people say "why don't you take the toilet out? It only takes 5 mins.... I don't remove them for all the issues you highlighted here. Good job done mate
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
100% right buddy
@dmheatingplumbing9805 Жыл бұрын
But as plumbers we have to lift floors to do our job. And re lay it. Mugs game keep laying the floors never become a plumber. It will destroy you. Mark will attest
@JR-1983 Жыл бұрын
@@dmheatingplumbing9805 oh yeh must be a plumbers pet hate that.
@dmheatingplumbing9805 Жыл бұрын
It was, now retired after 40 years. Destroyed ma
@DavidKneale4 күн бұрын
I had the pleasure of working on a syphon thats been in since 1930. The circular hole on the brass washer had keyholes slightly but apart from that and a bit of greasing it's in good nick! The syphon is solid brass or gunmetal!
@MJTiffPlumbing4 күн бұрын
Love stuff like this 👌🏼👌🏼
@peterdenson7031 Жыл бұрын
Had this experience many times! one tip for the new bolts to keep them in place is to take a peice of cardboard from the box, fold it couple of times and put them between the bolt head and the cistern and that will keep them in place while popping the cistern back on. Buy one metal blade for your multi tool and will fly through them old rusty ones
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Good shout on the cardboard trick 👍🏼👍🏼👌🏼
@relaxingrollup Жыл бұрын
BLOB OF PLUMBERS MATE
@mikerowbotham2585 Жыл бұрын
Excellent vid Mark shows exactly the real world issues with repairing toilets. I've had a few of these cisterns withe recess and just belt and braced em' with some good old Plumbers Mait.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate….. love giving an insight into exactly what us plumbers have to go through
@robertpeters8531 Жыл бұрын
Oh I can totally relate to this especially if they’re old. There’s the initial problem of not flushing and there’s all the hidden Aladdin cave problems that reveal themselves. Most times if it’s rigid copper pipe coming up from the floor it won’t reach the new full valve or is just that bit shy due to new doughnut so you got away with that one at least. Yes it always happens with family and they always say “ sure it’s just a small job should only take you half an hour and you end up there most of the day. Great video Thankyou and yes the syphon washer should be enough as it’s inside the cistern. Take care Mark.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy…. Glad you enjoyed it
@dannymatona3506 Жыл бұрын
Easy Mark. I had the same situation. I sadly / gladly filled the recess with a donut of plumbers mate. The plate squashed onto it nicely. Proper water tight.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼
@barrybladesbb8 ай бұрын
Story of my life … well done good deed done for the sis …. Top job
@MJTiffPlumbing8 ай бұрын
Thanks mate
@jeromeroddy4931 Жыл бұрын
15 minutes to change the syphon and fill valve , 3 hours to get the toilet apart! 😂 I use a grinder on many an occasion, multi tools struggles a bit ! Well done for helping your family! Cheers!
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Yep….. we all have been there haven’t we🤣🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@andrewtomlinson18 Жыл бұрын
With a three part syphon it’s easy to make a new diaphragm out of a piece of damp proof membrane
@dakry Жыл бұрын
A set of Milwaukee molegrips are darn handy in these situations :). Great video as always bud.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy 👍🏼👍🏼
@Ian20232 Жыл бұрын
As always top video Mark. Why is it so interesting to watch someone do something we do day in day out. 😂
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Hahaha thanks mate…… yep, a few people say that also
@davezeraschi7936 Жыл бұрын
It’s because when you watch it you don’t have to worry about it going wrong 🤣🤣
@briwesterby5868 Жыл бұрын
Pain in the bum those jobs! I always use a blob of plumbers mate to stop the cistern bolts falling out of the plate. Seems to help when putting the wing nuts on too👍
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Yep good idea that…..👍🏼👍🏼
@allanrobinson621 Жыл бұрын
Been watching from early days. This is the best video you've done on KZbin. Real life issues, showing how to resolve them.👏. Videos like this are a brilliant go to. Thanks Allan.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Thanks Allan….. and thanks for the continued support, really means a lot buddy….. Yer real world plumbing at its best these toilets sometimes
@ciaranboughton4713 Жыл бұрын
Well done mate I've often given half the day for jobs like that 👍👍
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@derekwatt6314 Жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one who has them problems.. great video again mark
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
We all do mate…… so relatable 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@trust_plumbing Жыл бұрын
Lifetime warranty too mate :>) I had a woman cancel me this week because I insisted on servicing the whole toilet rather than 'fix' the drip. I honestly believe a lot of people think it's an easy job. Not a scooby. Thanks for sharing and keep smiling mate
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Cheers buddy…… do it right I say 👌🏼👌🏼
@AYYCOL_ Жыл бұрын
nothing better than finding a two parter dudley syphon in any cistern, by far the best.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
It’s the dream 😉👌🏼
@richardwilliams8953 Жыл бұрын
I can't count the number of times I've done this job and it never gets easier....rusted screws that shear off, rusted wingnut threads, out of whack porcelain moulding - leak city, cruddy plastic thread tails that will cross thread rather than go straight....bloody manufacturers that make odd shaped cisterns so that the water fill fouls on the siphon....it goes on and on......they should be a straight fit but never are! Oh, and don't forget the previous plumber that had a leak and sealed everything with either silicone or plumbers mait !!!...lol
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Completely agree mate….. they can be a nightmare
@adamdefrateschi3808 Жыл бұрын
Toilets are the biggest pain at times, good to see you sing the Rolls Royce Dudley gear is high quality.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Only fit the best😉
@cullenward9664 Жыл бұрын
We've all been there... I've used a little roll of non-setting putty on a close couple cistern with a recess like that before, worked a treat and you know you're not leaving a nightmare for the next man
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼👌🏼
@garywilliams2226 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant vlog mark, you have definitely given me some food for thought on how to tackle these problems if I ever come across them. As always love the content of the real world plumbing keep them coming!
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Thankyou buddy 👍🏼👍🏼
@ashvanbro9329 Жыл бұрын
Amazing work my great friend mark
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Thanks as always mate👍🏼👍🏼
@dmheatingplumbing9805 Жыл бұрын
Thomas Dudley. A man with much integrity. The pioneer of the original cistern syphon volve. A mark of the man, a brass cod food shank.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Best in the game
@BlueVelvetBear10 ай бұрын
Another job done well. White vinegar spray for cleaning up rust. Spray and leave to work while you pop to plumbase or do other jobs, then come back to it.
@MJTiffPlumbing10 ай бұрын
Nice little tip
@johnboy2984 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark. Always something when you take toilet apart. Great job mate . Have a good week 👍
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Always something to keep you on your toes
@glyndavies591 Жыл бұрын
Good job again you could not have done it any different with all the different problems your like me doing thankyou jobs for your sister i have two sisters to keep happy its what you do i suppose
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Yep….. we’ve all been there for the family
@jontownsend8090 Жыл бұрын
Been there a few times, adapt and overcome is my motto.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Problem solving at its best these toilets
@jogabhambra6606 Жыл бұрын
Very detailed video. Brilliant!!!
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy
@nickcollins7568 Жыл бұрын
That job went quite well compared with the Ideal Standard tulip toilet cistern I had to repair last week. Its a very fussy cistern due to its shape and one had to be very careful on what siphon would fit. Had to cut through the bolts and cut off original syphon as well. Very awkward
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
And people think our job is easy🤦🏻♂️
@sergiofernandez3725 Жыл бұрын
I could feel your pain on that one. Everything that could go wrong did, well apart from smashing the Pan/Cistern. I think that all manufacturers of bathrooms kit should supply or recommend quality stainless steel fittings so they don't rust (as much).
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Yep totally agree mate
@AlexMar-r8p6 ай бұрын
Had a good laugh at the end when it was all done and only for it to be your sisters house haha
@MJTiffPlumbing6 ай бұрын
🤣🤣👍🏼
@michaelsharpin3369 Жыл бұрын
Great video Mark really enjoyed it.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy
@chrisholt2474 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, a very fiddly job there, well done with that successful conclusion. I’m sure your sister will be pleased with the job, I do like the Thomas Dudley products. I’ve done lots of jobs for family and it always ends up costing me in parts and labour. Great to see your cracking on with the constant list of jobs, have a great week and as always take care, regards, Chris. 👍👍👍
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris….. yep they are always a bloody fiddly job at times
@Mark-um5df Жыл бұрын
I feel your pain! Perseverance and a few expletives would of been my route! 😄 👍🏻
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Yep there was a few of them
@christeece-millington1641 Жыл бұрын
Went to watch your video before having my dinner then decided to watch it afterwards on seeing condition of toilet .😂🤣🤣. Any way great video.👍
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣….. sorry mate
@jeffcartwright7270 Жыл бұрын
Great video Mark. I was concerned that the corner of that pan was going to break when using that multi tool, due to the vibration etc. A better option in a tight place, is a cordless dremel fitted with a cut off wheel or in your situation, pushed up on the cistern bolt from under neath and used the cut off wheel to cut through the bolt. No vibration and risk to braking the pan. All good, sisters toilet all sorted now thats the main thing !.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
To be honest I’ve done it so many times and never had an issue….. it doesn’t really touch the pan. I know what you mean though 👍🏼👍🏼
@jeffcartwright7270 Жыл бұрын
@@MJTiffPlumbing 👍But when you are using the multi tool directly on that bolt, you are pushing back on the bolt, against the pan. The load and vibration from that tool, has to be transmitted somewhere. The cut off wheel offers no stress or vibration and presents little risk of cracking the pan, same with screws that secure the cistern to the wall Mark. Use a cut off wheel to remove the heads, then when it is out use a pair of mole grips to unscrew the remaining part of the shanks of the screws. You asked for suggestion on how WE would have tattled this job at the start of your great video. So, this the method I use 👍.
@SteveN-pw4dj Жыл бұрын
I am a joiner, but did exactly this job last week.. Fortunately for me the cistern screws had rusted so much the heads had gone so dead easy.... But the connector wing nuts totally rusted on so had to cut them... Being old school with a hacksaw blade. Same issue with a split membrane, but i changed to a push button as my tenant had young kids so i thought it easier.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
This wasn’t a membrane issue in the end, was the spring👍🏼👍🏼
@SteveN-pw4dj Жыл бұрын
@@MJTiffPlumbing Ahhh yes, I wrote this before getting to the end of you vid🤔. I get my tips from you though, so keep up the good work..
@mdocko2285 Жыл бұрын
Light work bread and butter jobs them Mark. Nice one 👍🏻
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Would of been a bit lighter work if it had gone to plan 🤣😉👍🏼👍🏼
@Tom_Plumb_PHS Жыл бұрын
Was half expecting the screws to snap and the iso to start leaking as well😂. Its all fun and games this plumbing lark. Bit like fixing cars, 5 hours taking the front end off to unbolt and replace a sensor buried in the engine bay.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
And I was to be honest….. everything else had gone tits up 🤣
@killerbean9911 Жыл бұрын
I'd have probably done the same as you regarding all the issues, except I'd have used plumbers mait under the plate just for peace of mind but fair play mate, nothing worse than working for family 🤣
@Ilovebrownbreadtoast Жыл бұрын
Opening up a faulty cistern to see a blue Dudley syphon is like a dream come true!
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Hahaha isn’t it just
@rush211251 Жыл бұрын
Had a few of these lately , removing the cistern usually means , new screws to hold cistern back against wall , new plate and bolts , new donut , new valve , and sometimes a new iso valve that sometimes lets by after isolating !, you can literally fit a complete new toilet in the time it takes pissing about with an old one .
@rush211251 Жыл бұрын
Sometime Wd 40 helps , or wriggling the cistern from side to side helps remove it
@dmarriott9701 Жыл бұрын
Mark, think this tip has been given before, fold some card wedges and fit between cistern and retaining bolt on siphon plate, helps to keep the bolts in position instead of jumping out and falling into the pan. Did it for many years during my 50 years in the job.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys…. Great tips there 👌🏼👌🏼👍🏼
@SurreyAlan Жыл бұрын
When I changed mine I bought a plastic plate in B&Q to replace the original metal one which should prevent rust but haven't seen one since.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼
@neiltitmus9744 Жыл бұрын
Yes same here was a bit dubious but it worked great
@neiltwaddle9665 Жыл бұрын
Do about 4 complete toilets a week....always use Fluidmaster or Viva ....can't be doing with Dudley "Stuff " now it's just crap....except for the big " Chunky " basin washers....customers never think it's going to be a complete renewal ...I just show them when it's apart....always use ...Euroflow coupling kit if it's 1 +1/2 ....the days of the metal one's are almost over....the Viva " Slinky " wastes are great as well compared to McAlpines ,but not as great a range... yet !!....enjoy your videos my friend...all the best.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Glad you like the videos mate 👍🏼👍🏼
@andrewtomlinson18 Жыл бұрын
McAlpine do a stainless steel version of the adapter which also holds the bolts in place, very nice but not cheap
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
They do now your right…. They are great
@TheScottelias Жыл бұрын
What blades are you using on your multi tool? Mine go blunt cutting air
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Think they are Erbauer ones buddy
@garyglover5262 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you fitted a demount-able flush unit in. My only problem is, it looks like the original flush unit was also a demount-able and should of been able to repair it without taking cistern off, a bit confused. But still a great video as usual. I have been a plumber for 35 years and changing flush units are always the worst job.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
I was changing all the internals buddy…… got to remove the cistern to do that👍🏼
@alexthomson7465 Жыл бұрын
I called pimlico plumbers to fix my leaking flush and the guy was useless. Didn't fix it so I went on youtube and after watching several videos like this I changed the whole flush. I had similar issues to you and I also messe 1 new flush up by getting plumbers mate all over it 😂 got another flush, fitted it with no plumbers mate at all and haven't had 1 problem in 4 years. All these videos really do help people Sorry you didn't get paid though 😢
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate… glad it helped you out👍🏼
@johnw537 Жыл бұрын
i used to have that problem with bolts.i put small amount plubers mate on them...
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼 a few have said that
@mmm091000 Жыл бұрын
Had a problem last week Mark ‘nightmare job’ the cistern pan hole was a lot wider diameter than the new syphon bottom thread ‘if that makes sense’ ? CT1 done the trick after three attempts of leaking and everything I put in was new, a strange one for me ? I feel your pain bruv.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
CT1 is a lifesaver
@laurapaine9134 Жыл бұрын
You actually made it look very easy! Lol
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
It’s all in the editing 🤣🤣
@rush211251 Жыл бұрын
I’ve just replaced a bath waste for my sister and she not only paid me , but gave a £20 tip too 😄
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Perfect👌🏼👌🏼
@chriscurtis6843 Жыл бұрын
these push button systems are the best systems i would recommend never looked back when i fitted my own , and they are cheap and you wont need to take the toilet apart when you need to replace them
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼
@jamesycotter.512 Жыл бұрын
That was a top change siphon they sell the identical one in city plumbing lol...no way was I seperating cistern from pan lol
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
You have to if you want to change the whole lot buddy…. Which is what I wanted to do on this job 👍🏼👍🏼
@JSSHandP Жыл бұрын
Never seen a cistern with that lip before! I’d have probably used plumbers mate to make up the gap but whatever does the job 👍
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Nope, new one on me too
@benjaminclews3968 Жыл бұрын
You want the Bosch metal max blades for those bolts,a bit pricey but well worth it👍🏻 Have you been out on your bike lately?
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
I’m sure I have some in the van somewhere….. I need to get back out on the bike to be honest
@jamieboone-kn4hd Жыл бұрын
I always have problems with them dudley turbo not flushing when changed for new one
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Do you set them right, as they are very good syphons
@jamieboone-kn4hd Жыл бұрын
Yea I do
@carguillo1 Жыл бұрын
Hi Matt love the vids hope your well
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy……. 🤣🤣😉👍🏼
@deano6017 Жыл бұрын
hello, great video. do you recommend the Milwaukee wet vac.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Thanks….. yep, it’s a must have bit of kit that comes in so handy
@NAFO_Badger_Brigade Жыл бұрын
I'm getting on fine with the basic Titan wet n dry vac - cost about £100! It sounds like an aeroplane landing but does the job and cos it's 30 litres can handle bigger jobs!
@RosskillbaneC Жыл бұрын
Used to take me a few hours on replacing parts. Used to do thw pan connector as well at the back. Now just the internals. I do offer the pan connector if they want. Because ive had it a couple times where theyve failed. After strangely (pan connector) Now when i do the siphon and fill valve i can do this now in 45 minutes
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Yep, as long as it all goes to plan👍🏼👍🏼
@robertmawby3021 Жыл бұрын
Great vid Mark, I seem to be getting a lot of these just lately and they are nearly always a pain in the butt!! I always carry a battery angle grinder with a 1mm thick cutting disc, it only takes a couple of seconds to cut the bolts! Did you change the fibre washer in the feed connector? I always change it as I have been called back a couple of times for a dripping connection.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Yep replace as much as you can when you can👍🏼👍🏼
@mickh2743 Жыл бұрын
Another good video, when doing the same job myself i allways fill the cistern in the bath to check for leaks before putting it back on the pan👍 also did that old siphon have a built in overflow? Keep up the good work mate.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Yer built in OF on the syphon 👍🏼
@mickh2743 Жыл бұрын
@@MJTiffPlumbing wow, i was miles off on the age of it then, also after getting two buckets a couple of months ago i have just got the same wetvac as you after watching you use yours, already using Milwaukee stuff, best thing i've brought, thank you 👍
@BrosnanEvans Жыл бұрын
A dremil tool works a treat for rusty bolts
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼
@markbaker8326 Жыл бұрын
I always put bead of silicone arond rubber inside cistern no chance then of it leaking also use foam washer between cistern and pan much better
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
This needed the big thick donut washer…. Big old gap
@paulgardner3926 Жыл бұрын
Fair play for not given up on the bog. I would of bought a new toilet for £80👍
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
That’s an option 👍🏼
@alangriffiths8401 Жыл бұрын
I have, when I remember to do this, is when fitting those coupling bolts is put a dab of grease or Vaseline on the threads - may help the next guy who comes along.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Yep a few people have said that… good tip
@leebaldwinCalvaryPlumbing Жыл бұрын
I’ve come across a few of these cisterns. I always put an extra 1 1/2 siphon washer underneath to help bridge the gap in the UNNECESSARY !!! recess. Although what you did worked. Nice one. How many times do you cut through the close coupled bolt and try to bend it to snap but it’s not quite enough. Haha.
@leebaldwinCalvaryPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Or… it snaps under the wing nut !!!!
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Hahahaa 99.9% of the time 🤣🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
@leebaldwinCalvaryPlumbing Жыл бұрын
@@MJTiffPlumbing you can choose your jobs but you can’t choose your family !!!
@WorldTubeFacts Жыл бұрын
how long duration of the level 2 plumber course to start a job or work to start earning in the UK and need your valuable reply. Thanks
@edthelasttribe9580 Жыл бұрын
These are olden toilets , if you see syphon looking 👀 familiar to that one , put a price up straight away, the rusted screws , holding cistern at the back , and you can see roughly underneath it the plate if is mucky, those 3 observations tells you the price straight away, all the best brother .
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy….. 👍🏼👍🏼
@richardlewis5316 Жыл бұрын
When fitting the bolts through the metal plate I always tape them in position so when lifting the cistern onto the pan they don't drop into the inside of the pan never to be seen again!!
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Good little tip
@mitz2772 Жыл бұрын
What were you doing/using before you had a multi tool on job like this pal?
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Big hacksaw blade and electrical tape around it
@diddywright6165 Жыл бұрын
Feel your pain bud! They can be a pita at times, my personal favourite is when someone has decided to use silicone behind the cistern rather than screws…….I love that🤬
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Oh mate…. Then half the tiles come off aswell🤣🤦🏻♂️
@diddywright6165 Жыл бұрын
Yep absolute pita, or better still one cracks and it won’t be the one behind the cistern it’ll be seen and no one makes them anymore!
@meejhgggg Жыл бұрын
Cystern in big rubber washer.. And seal from there...
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼
@robertstainforth6890 Жыл бұрын
A 4” angle grinder with guard removed and a 0.5mm metal blade works for me .,multi tool is ok provided nothing moves when oscillating…
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼
@alancaldwell6343 Жыл бұрын
Surely just change the diaphragm as it looks like a 2 part siphon, I put the jam nut on the float valve the other way up to centre the valve in the hole
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Why just change the diaphragm when it’s all apart…. Just do the lot👍🏼
@alancaldwell6343 Жыл бұрын
@M J Tiff Plumbing if it is a 2 part then why strip cistern out ?
@glynstorer3269 Жыл бұрын
I’ve took the bog out before now and gone in from the back with a Angle grinder
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Love it mate
@robinlaird Жыл бұрын
Haha! Good little end to this one… blood’s thicker than (toilet) water in this case
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
🤣👍🏼👍🏼
@tonymurff5234 Жыл бұрын
What a crappie job mark, I hope at the very least you got a cuppa ☕️ & a rich tea Good video as always 👍👍🤜
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
You know what…. She only gave me a drink once I finished!!!….. bloody family eh 🤣🤣
@attlee1945 Жыл бұрын
Love a love job ❤
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
We all have them don’t we….😉
@ricks9270 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark , another great video. Just a thought: if it was your sister's house, ( you'll be going back when it needs repairing again😅)could you not put a bit of grease on the threads to avoid the frustration next time?
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Yep your probably right there……
@robertmawby3021 Жыл бұрын
Good idea, but it’s about time that the plate and bolts were made to stainless steel. 👍🏻
@memphiscfc Жыл бұрын
That’s the beauty of those suphons. Hopefully never need to undo the bolts again. All repairs done from inside the cistern
@mickobyobrien2650 Жыл бұрын
If the c/c fixing bolts where rusted,I would of just replaced the diaphragm,used the old ripped one as a template and use a thick bin liner to make a new one.😂😂The fights I've had getting those bolts off life you've had😅.Also use plumbers gold silicone around Syphon thread then fit fixing plate.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Nightmare mate
@glynstorer3269 Жыл бұрын
And some of the pull handles are different sizes through the holes in the cistern
@mitchellboyd1914 Жыл бұрын
Can be the easiest money maker or the worst job in the world lol ! Had to change a whole toilet the other day just because of a syphon !! Then had to build a platform for the new toilet to sit on due to the old one being ancient, the height of new one was miles off and the pan connector would have been running uphill ! Always fit the Dudley’s too now so can just swap the body without removing stem !
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Completely agree mate….. can go either way🤦🏻♂️
@RajeshBangera-x8i Жыл бұрын
Had a similar one sometime ago. Had to change everything on it and was there for couple of hours. Its all good when you get paid in then end. 😂
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼
@johnwaby4321 Жыл бұрын
They always seem to be tricky little tinkers.👍👍 Next time leave a bucket so They can flush the toilet 😂😂
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Hahahaaa
@melike1984 Жыл бұрын
"It's just a 5 minute job brother can you pop round and do a love job."...... 😂 we all get these ones with family, .........and so many more with friends that i didn't even know i have.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Hahahah so true
@danl55922 ай бұрын
Sometimes it's easier to go down to WICKES and buy a complete WC to go . Everything new , just needs bolting the cistern to the pan and screw to floor and wall the WC to go.only costs around £70 complete. I've done exactly what you have done many times and the parts are just as expensive as a complete WC to go😂😅😂😅
@MJTiffPlumbing2 ай бұрын
Yep… bog in a box
@jbjoe249 Жыл бұрын
Always.. Every time!!! Like I heard myself. 🤣🤣🤣
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
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@tonymcroberts3252 Жыл бұрын
I'm a joiner so i know i shouldn't be making suggestions but i had the same recess issue on a family members toilet so i rang an old plumber i know and he said to form a ring of plumber's mate in the recess so that when the plate is tightened down the plumber's mate will take up any slack and seal it so thats what i did and 2 years later still had no leaks.(probably tempted fate now)
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Yep if there had been an issue that’s the path I would of gone down….. seems to be fine as is.. Always something to keep you on your toes buddy
@robcoppin5699 Жыл бұрын
The "normally easy" easy ones are the most infuriating that send you to ur dark space 😤...Not knocking the multi-tool approach but i always use an angle grinder & slit through the wing nuts when they're rusted 👌I'm a big advocate of the Dudley gear as well 👍
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Yep Dudley for the win mate….. only the best😉
@NAFO_Badger_Brigade Жыл бұрын
Brothers n sisters take note!! You've seen the work that gets put in - transfer some cash to Ur plumbing sibling account today!!!🎉
@leepickett3655 Жыл бұрын
Very good video this instead of all the instragram stuff you see 👍
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate…. Yep, Real World Plumbing here 😉👍🏼
@stixstonesinvestors5413 Жыл бұрын
Ah I feel the pain mark 🤦🏻♂️
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
One of those “pita” jobs
@paul55767 Жыл бұрын
Mark my own experience might be worse than this one. Both cistern to pan bolts were spinners for me and needed cut out underneath with a grinder. Then when I fitted the Syphon in the new doughnut washer was rock solid and pushed up the toilet a good inch lol not allowing the inlet to connect as it was in copper. Then when I got a new doughnut and everything back together the two screws that held it to the wall (which were not fixed in the first place) didn't line up. Ended up making my own sheet metal bracket as the spot I needed to drill was half on half of backing tiles and was risky to drill on. After all this it worked for a month until the Syphon service nut split due to misalignment of the the c link/plastic arm putting too much stress on the unit. Ordered a new Syphon and toilet handle from there as the old handle had too much limescale to make adjustments to the arm. All this and it was my first time as a diyer but got there in the end
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Complete nightmare that was buddy
@joshuaainsworth3909 Жыл бұрын
I shouldn't laugh but did at the amount of times you put your grips down and picked em back up cause the syphon nut was so seized lol been their many times still do it , unfortunately I snapped that main angled connector on my tapex kit , bought off of main Amazon supplier and they told me contact tapex , emailed them hoping it's a quick replacement as I use the kit quite often
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Hope you get it sorted mate
@joshuaainsworth3909 Жыл бұрын
@@MJTiffPlumbing just had a reply their sending a replacement piece out 👍
@englishdave9986 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes, the easiest jobs are the hardest !
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@riverpud Жыл бұрын
A sledgehammer works for me every time 😂
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@jenningsheatingplumbing2353 Жыл бұрын
Why would you not try and take the old 2 part syphon apart then using a thick plastic sheet make a new diaphragm if required and then change the spring as you saw it needed? 10-15 minutes and job done then.
@MJTiffPlumbing Жыл бұрын
Because I had to take it apart to fit the new dudley internals…. As said in the video
@chiron6699 Жыл бұрын
Ah the joys of replacing toilet innards and first flush no leaks.....yes victory is sweet. Any one else save brass lock nuts to use on toilet inlet valve threads. Manufacturer here nice new brass threads but have a crappy plastic nut?
@kevinisaac9139 Жыл бұрын
that's why I don't do jobs for family & friends except my mum and but they have passed on now