How to fix Toyota 22R Front Main Seal Oil Leak (22R 22RE 22RTE) No Speedi Sleeve!

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WheeliePete

WheeliePete

9 жыл бұрын

Amazon affiliate link to purchase seal amzn.to/2pH7Q4y (about the same price I paid at my local dealer.) I was NOT compensated in any way by to make this video. However, if you want to buy one and use the link above I will get a small commission from Amazon. Little things like that help me to make more videos in the future.
This is a Tips & tricks video for fixing a leaking front main seal on Toyota 22R series engines (22R, 22R-E, 22RT-E, etc.) The main point of this video is to let people know there is an alternative to having to drive a Speedi Sleeve onto the crankshaft pulley to cover the grooves on the crankshaft pulley sealing surface that are created from millions of revolutions of the crankshaft in the old seal.
By using a thinner seal that Toyota made you can relocate the sealing lips on an unworn part of the crankshaft pulley sealing surface and get another 10-20 years of use out of it.
Toyota Part number for the thin main seal is: 90311-45014
Toyota Part number for the O-ring that goes between the oil pump body and timing cover: 15188-38030 Amazon Affiliate link for OEM toyota Part: amzn.to/2pFk7am
Amazon affiliate link for oil pump O-ring by Fel-Pro (cheaper than OEM toyota and works just as well): amzn.to/2pHHWgS
Amazon affiliate link for permatex high temp thread sealant: amzn.to/2rfZfar
Here's a link to a playlist of my other Toyota related videos which contains a couple videos I mentioned in the above video about how to get the stubborn crankshaft pulley bolt off: • 4x4 Mods, DIY, Tech - ...

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@larryrodriguez3991
@larryrodriguez3991 8 ай бұрын
I was able to successfully replace the front crank seal on my 1989 Toyota pick up truck by following the instructions in this video. My biggest worry was getting the crank shaft bolt off the engine. However, the bump start method worked like a charm. Thank you for this video! No more oil leak!
@Dannoadams
@Dannoadams 2 жыл бұрын
Solid vid! Seriously I used this anonymously about a year ago and it changed my damn life. Part numbers provided? You're a saint. Came back here a year later to share this with a buddy.
@abrahammartin8447
@abrahammartin8447 3 жыл бұрын
Straight to the process no bullshit! Thank you sir!
@phoenixfreeman1835
@phoenixfreeman1835 4 жыл бұрын
This helped me so much, I’m getting ready to do the front main seal on my 1980 2wd and I’ve been looking for days for a video that actually showed what to do and explained each step. You’re awesome!
@MrPotatochips4
@MrPotatochips4 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for helping me keep my old baby '86 PU on the road, this video is gold to me!
@bootleggerwarren9109
@bootleggerwarren9109 7 жыл бұрын
WheeliePete, I cannot thank you enough for this video. If not for this I would have to had paid a small fortune for this fix. You did a fantastic job at explaining and the torque specs were an added bonus!
@28Mystry
@28Mystry 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this information! Worked like a charm and I was so stoked to not have oil spraying everything. You the man!
@dwizdofoz.
@dwizdofoz. Жыл бұрын
Great video mate, all the facts you need and none you don't. Double points for the genuine part numbers. Thank you.
@MurrayEstes
@MurrayEstes 6 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and it's help me work on my Toyota 4Runner 1985 22RE. I've had it for 19 years and been too busy with my CPA practice to work on her. This neglect left me with some significant problems I've been working on the last month or so. However I've enjoyed the change of Lifestyle. Reminds me of the old days working on my Hodaka and getting ready to go race it out in the desert. The good old 70s :)
@702muzik
@702muzik 8 жыл бұрын
I don't know where you've been brother , but I just recently found your videos on these beautiful motors and I must say you do one hell of a job by explaining and detailing everything thank you.
@Randymoore24
@Randymoore24 5 жыл бұрын
I've been watching your videos and love them all. They are very straight forward and easy to understand plus the actual video is outstanding.
@gildardosantacruz5791
@gildardosantacruz5791 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete, I followed the instructions on the video and stopped my leaking seal. and save me a couple of bucks. great video. thanks again
@cm3221
@cm3221 5 жыл бұрын
Im a 54 year old mechanically inclined woman and thanks to your video I am going to attempt to change my 1986 2 wheel drive pickup front main seal. Thank you for your video would love to see more videos on the 22 r motor.
@stjohnsriverrat7161
@stjohnsriverrat7161 7 жыл бұрын
Very straight forward video.I really learn much from your videos.Thanks
@Archifx
@Archifx 2 жыл бұрын
Well hallelujah! A perfect video with all the facts. I am about to do a video on making this repair over on my channel but I will absolutely be linking to this one in my description! THANK YOU for listing the actual Toyota part numbers in your video! Here’s to fixing mine lol
@38standard
@38standard 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. My 1982 Toyota pickup was making a mess with the front seal leaking. replaced it last night, took a few hours. no more leaks.
@ALLTHEBENZES
@ALLTHEBENZES 7 ай бұрын
Picked up an 85 toyota with oil spraying at the bottom by the fan. Will use this video to do the repair, thanks for the info and clear instructions!
@aerialrescuesolutions3277
@aerialrescuesolutions3277 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent quality video. Very well done and edited, the camera angles and on screen text are awesome. Thank you for this great video, Jim
@aerialrescuesolutions3277
@aerialrescuesolutions3277 Жыл бұрын
Also the hy temp thread sealant you mention on the top oil pump bolt is a critical component, thank you.
@pr4runner
@pr4runner 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. Full and clear explanation appreciated. 85 4 Runner will come alive next year, I hope.
@Miokomata
@Miokomata 9 жыл бұрын
Video just helped me out right now as i'm working on the oil pump conveniently. thanks!
@kyledurrett8134
@kyledurrett8134 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for helping us all out here Pete!
@stephenburston8197
@stephenburston8197 6 ай бұрын
Can’t thank you enough for putting this up. Cheers
@parkerdanielleffew
@parkerdanielleffew 5 жыл бұрын
that was a great video for someone who is doing this for the first time
@mikes85supra
@mikes85supra 9 жыл бұрын
As always Pete, spot on! Greatly appreciate the time invested in your vids.
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 9 жыл бұрын
mikes85supra Thanks, I appreciate it. It takes me about 4 of work per finished minute of video (filming, shooting picture, writing dialogue, editing, uploading, etc.) to make this type of video. I make enough money off the google advertising to keep me wanting to continue making these vids, but I'm not getting rich by any stretch...lol (can't quit my day job just yet..lol.) If you're involved in any forums or groups online that would benefit from these videos please share them around. (The more people that watch the videos, the higher they climb in the search engines, etc...)
@willritter
@willritter Жыл бұрын
love it. Thanks so much for you're straight forward video!!!
@gregmartinez204
@gregmartinez204 4 жыл бұрын
My leak is gone, I had to resurface my drive way because truck leaked so much, the smaller seal fixed the grove inn shaft thanks so much
@verlaryder
@verlaryder 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Amazingly clear and competent instructions.
@NuthinButtGaming
@NuthinButtGaming 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you these are the videos I've been looking for
@mr.tomyum732
@mr.tomyum732 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video very Informative and clear. With part numbers and explanations 👍👍
@yoski203
@yoski203 8 жыл бұрын
geez thankyou so much for all the extra info!! seriously Great job!
@hondah35
@hondah35 5 жыл бұрын
I had this problem multiple times with two different 22R blocks back when I had my '85 4x4 in the mid 1990s. I loved that engine, but the front seal leaks, which would spray oil all around underneath the hood, drove me crazy. Back then I know one of the problems I faced was that the quality of some of the aftermarket oil pump replacements on the market caused them not to work well and would allow oil to leak past the replacement seal (I tried the balancer sleeve but it did not solve the problem). I think the quality of the aftermarket oil pumps are better today.
@mattblockholm8797
@mattblockholm8797 2 жыл бұрын
This will help me out immensely. Thank you!
@JesseHanner
@JesseHanner 6 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial video , very well thought out and informative. Good work practices! I'm driving in 86 4Runner with Factory Turbo
@joeyharris6363
@joeyharris6363 2 жыл бұрын
dam i wish more KZbin mechanics where like this guy thanks so much this helps out a ton :))))
@MussaKZN
@MussaKZN 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine all KZbin video was this good! The world would be a better place! 48 thumbs down? Nissan owners!!
@LukeMitchley
@LukeMitchley 5 жыл бұрын
Really easy to understand wheelie Pete.
@marklance033
@marklance033 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is great! The best.
@DIRT8IKE
@DIRT8IKE 2 жыл бұрын
God I love every bit of how you did this video. Thank you so much, saved me tons of time and was super clear!!!
@bobatwater5912
@bobatwater5912 4 жыл бұрын
Great info going to do mine now very good I found this video. You are the man thank u so much.
@TheMostUnstableOne
@TheMostUnstableOne 8 жыл бұрын
Great little video. really helped to show me what i'm in for :)
@carmelo_southwesternaustralia
@carmelo_southwesternaustralia Жыл бұрын
your the boss - top dog - top of the chain - brilliant video - thank you
@pavlogris1675
@pavlogris1675 3 жыл бұрын
Very clear instructions much appreciated
@capster15
@capster15 7 жыл бұрын
Great videos thank you for your help even 2 years later lol !!!!
@michaelcox8702
@michaelcox8702 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, you probably saved me a lot of time and money.
@maxnuccio2440
@maxnuccio2440 2 жыл бұрын
Super helpful video thank you so much WheeliePete! Got my front main seal and o ring all replaced and I'm finally leak free. The PO had put a thin seal in but didn't drive it all the way into the bore. From the looks of it if it's sitting flush at the top of the bore then it sits about where the thick seal does on the pulley. Driving the thinner seal to the bottom lets it ride on a new place on the pulley and like you said guarantees it's square in there. One thing I encountered that you didn't get into too much in the video is that tightening the pulley bolt was a bit tricky! I used the bump start method to get it off and that worked great. Didn't need a pulley puller either probably because it had been leaking oil for quite a while and it was lubed up ready to slide off. The most trouble I actually had was finding a way to hold that pulley still so I could tighten that bolt back up to spec. I didn't have a pulley wrench, or holder, and I left my radiator in so a regular impact gun wouldn't do it. I didn't want to wait for a tool or spend the money on a 90 degree impact gun and it maybe still not fit. Best thing I came up with was to block the tires, parking break on, put it in 5th gear, 4hi and then tighten against that. My torque wrench topped out around a 100 ft/lbs so just went a little past that and have checked it a few times since and it's stayed tight. I think I've read and understand that the bolt should get tighter over time due to the nature of the rotation of the motor and the matching direction of the bolt to tighten. Lotta torque going on there! Videos like yours really help the average guy work on their own stuff, save money, and keep their rigs rolling down the road ;) Many thanks!
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 2 жыл бұрын
Glad the video was able to help you out. It sounds like you'll be just fine on the torque. You did exactly what I would recommend in the absence of the right holding tool for torqueing the crankshaft pulley bolt.
@wakavevo4557
@wakavevo4557 5 жыл бұрын
You're super informative. Thanks!
@ColinQuinnuniverse
@ColinQuinnuniverse 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thorough video. Thank you. Including the torque spec and part numbers makes this video top notch !!
@larrydavis4064
@larrydavis4064 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. To the point and informative. Thanks
@daquilema2011
@daquilema2011 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, very instructive video, Hats off.
@hectornagano1819
@hectornagano1819 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial.
@rogertaylor5806
@rogertaylor5806 3 жыл бұрын
I just got my gaskets and speedy sleeve kit today.
@karlkelley8353
@karlkelley8353 3 ай бұрын
So well done........thank you much!
@elliottgraham
@elliottgraham 9 жыл бұрын
That a great trick. Thanks again pete
@mikesanches313
@mikesanches313 2 жыл бұрын
Thats amazing thank for the video
@capeman10
@capeman10 Жыл бұрын
New Subscriber, thanks for the help.
@spacetrucker2952
@spacetrucker2952 7 жыл бұрын
These are great videos, I have a 1988 toyota pickup 2wd. There is nothing wrong with it right now, it's just nice to know for future reference. The only complaint I have about my truck is that it's a 4 speed manual, I would like to put a 5 speed in it.
@drewfleming7065
@drewfleming7065 6 ай бұрын
I install the pump with 2 loose bolts then install the pulley lightly to center the pump/seal...tighten the 2 bolts, remove pulley and install the rest of the bolts, torq to spec...This makes sure the seal is centered on the seal surface of the pulley, if its not centered it will leak.....And beware doing the bump start to remove the crank bolt....You can F up the flywheel and or starter,,,I only use it as a last resort after trying a little heat to the bolt and light taps on it...I took a thick piece of 1/4" steel flat bar, drilled 2 15mm holes spaced to fit 2 of the pulley cutouts(where you put the drift) and ground out a haft moon to let the socket go by, install 2 14mm bolts with nuts in the 2 holes and use as a holder, the bolts going into the cutouts and the bar against the socket side....Doesnt F up the dust seal....
@Raevenswood
@Raevenswood 6 жыл бұрын
FYI guys I'm deep into a rebuild of my 22re and if you get the Toyota OEM overhaul seals kit (got mine from camelback Toyota parts for 156$ and it has damn near every seal you will need including these shallower main seals for front and rear and putting them on the way Pete shows has them riding just behind the groove from the old seal. I'd say this tutorial is quite actuate.
@ziobrowskin
@ziobrowskin Жыл бұрын
excellent thank you for this video
@TheBloodcleaner
@TheBloodcleaner 5 жыл бұрын
brilliant ..your the best on you tube
@thomasschwartz4899
@thomasschwartz4899 Жыл бұрын
Great video done by pro with part numbers, what more could u ask for!!!!!
@terminaltsi
@terminaltsi 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, highly informative.
@alfredobrown
@alfredobrown 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. well explained.
@vitriumGTS
@vitriumGTS 21 күн бұрын
Part numbers AND torque specs? You just got a new subscriber
@guadalupecovarrubias3487
@guadalupecovarrubias3487 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video thank you!
@TheKobes7
@TheKobes7 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@johnawtey7608
@johnawtey7608 3 жыл бұрын
great video thanks
@sansui1968
@sansui1968 7 жыл бұрын
thanks i needed that and ill tell my buddy
@alortiz8920
@alortiz8920 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Help me fix my front seal oil leak.
@fm1224
@fm1224 Жыл бұрын
Removing oil pump not necessary but thanks for all the tips!
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete Жыл бұрын
It's not necessary to remove the oil pump, but it's easy to do and gives you a chance to inspect your oil pump gears while it's off the engine. Removing the oil pump also lets you drive the seal perfectly into the bore with a seal driver, something you can't do if the crank is in the way.
@jakestech28
@jakestech28 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Unfortunately, I didn't push the seal in all the way. I pushed it in flush. The seal either started spinning, or went it crooked. Oh well. New harmonic balancer on the way.
@dirtylu79
@dirtylu79 Жыл бұрын
Bad ass video champ..
@azeissler1987
@azeissler1987 4 жыл бұрын
Cool video!
@troywaits7918
@troywaits7918 7 жыл бұрын
good video and great job!!!!!!
@weedhopper528
@weedhopper528 3 жыл бұрын
nice video thank you
@eranrosensteel4106
@eranrosensteel4106 4 жыл бұрын
Awsome video
@JoelzombieThomas
@JoelzombieThomas 4 жыл бұрын
a coconut water can is perfectly sized for driving the new seal. I haven't tried a full one, but it crushes the top edge about the time the seal's driven in fully on the empties.
@rags-fv6ko
@rags-fv6ko 7 жыл бұрын
Getting ready to do mines. O my 93 4wd going with the Toyota oem
@gavinkeogh6590
@gavinkeogh6590 2 жыл бұрын
Excallent video! I appreciate you taking the time to post these videos. One question though: when putting in the new thinner seal, if you drive it all the way in, won't the back lip of the seal be in the groove and have a chance to leak again? It would have to stay out a bit to avoid this. Thanks for any reply on this.
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 2 жыл бұрын
The seal being square in the bore is more important than trying to drive it to a specific depth to avoid the groove. It's easy to drive the seal square either flush with the surface of the oil pump housing or all the way to the bottom. If the seal is even a little bit cocked, it's going to leak really quick. Generally speaking if the seal that's coming out was a thick one that was flush with the top of the oil pump housing and you replace it with a thinner one driven to the bottom of the bore, the groove in the crankshaft pulley isn't a problem. If it does start leaking again you'll probably need to get a new crankshaft pulley or speedi-sleeve it, or have the groove welded up and turned back down by a machinist (although unless you are a welder/machinist that option is going to be way more expensive than just getting a new crankshaft pulley.)
@elicoolestguy
@elicoolestguy 8 жыл бұрын
Hey. Thanks for this video, it is straightforward, well-paced, and expertly done!!! I am going to be replacing the front main seal on my 1990 toyota pickup 22re and in my Chilton guide it says that I ought to take off the oil pan before removing the drive belts and the crankshaft pulley. Would you recommend that? (I may have a leak there, too, in which case I will do it anyways, but was wondering if it was necessary for the front main.)
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 8 жыл бұрын
+Eli Edleson-Stein Unless you have a confirmed oil pan leak I would NOT take the pan off. I have a 1992 4x4 also and you do not need to remove the pan to get at the front main seal. Sent you a private message also with some information you may want.
@sagiputerman
@sagiputerman 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks .good vid'
@johnswyers
@johnswyers 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Digital_Dairy
@Digital_Dairy 9 жыл бұрын
Love your videos pete, and i dont even have a 22RE. At least not yet. If you havent done one already, a birf rebuild vid would be great.
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 9 жыл бұрын
JaffaCakes Thanks man, you mean you want to see how to actually take apart the inner cages and balls of the birfield? It's kind of cool how that little jigsaw puzzle goes together. I've got one sitting on the bench right now. I'll put that on the video idea list. :-)
@Digital_Dairy
@Digital_Dairy 9 жыл бұрын
Yes sir, that and even a basic rebuild when the leaks start coming down the birfs would be great. Could you also mention what kind of greases you use for different applications? I dont always know what type is right to use.
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 9 жыл бұрын
JaffaCakes I've got a video already on the inner axle seals (which when they fail is what causes the knuckles to leak gear oil.) kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5bZk2qtbtWIms0 As for grease to pack a birfield with, I just use whatever high-temp grease I have close by. I just keep jamming it into the birfield until it spurts back out between the cages. The factory service manual calls for filling the knuckle with grease through that fill plug, but that just makes a nasty mess if you have to get back in there so what I do is clean it all out, grease the bearings (upper and lower trunion) and then make sure a light coat of grease is spread on all surfaces so they don't get rusty. This is a good way to do it if you are into the knuckles on a regular basis (at least once a year if you do any deep water crossings).
@ninjabortion
@ninjabortion 9 жыл бұрын
JaffaCakes I don't have one either. With any luck he'll get into M series motors and make some slick vids i can put to use.
@Digital_Dairy
@Digital_Dairy 8 жыл бұрын
+WheeliePete I have a first gen with a 20R now! Replacing the timing chain this weekend. Again, real glad you made these vids. Cheers.
@therockwhispers
@therockwhispers 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark cool video. I have a Question for you maybe you can answer. I have a Toyota with a 22 RE in it and I’m having problems with it overheating. as I was taking it apart to check the head gasket I noticed that when I took the oil filter off it didn’t have any oil in it at all. Do you have any idea what would cause something like that?
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 3 жыл бұрын
Oil filter have an anti-drainback valve (flap) in it? If the filter doesn't have an anit-drainback flap (or if it's not working right) the oil can flow out of the filter and back to the pan. The idea there is that the filter should be holding oil in it so it's full on the next startup. There was oil in the pan, right? No oil circulation in the system would cause a major damage, not just overheating.
@4phishn
@4phishn 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Pete, great tips and great videos that you put out. Do you have a video on removing and replacing the timing cover on a 22RE engine? I have a 1993 2wd pickup that is spewing 2 quarts of oil a week all over the place. I have been told that the oil pump seal is leaking but I suspect that the timing cover is also losing oil. Thank you for all the great information that you provide.
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 8 жыл бұрын
+4phishn If you're losing oil that fast it is most likely the front main seal, or the o-ring behind the oil pump is pinched. Video covers that. You're timing cover would probably need to be broken to lose that much oil from a timing cover and you would probably be able to see it puking out the crack.. With that much oil coming out it's probably the front main seal. When the front main goes bad, oil leaks onto the spinning crankshaft pulley and gets flung everywhere. Do you have oil on the underside of the hood? Front main seal for sure.
@trenolds39
@trenolds39 7 жыл бұрын
What type of grease do you recommend for the inside lip and spring of the main seal? Also is assembly lube recommended for the outer lip of the seal when seating?
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 7 жыл бұрын
I usually just use whatever bearing grease is close at hand for the seal lips. As long as it's safe for o-rings you'll be fine. Technically you are supposed to grease the outside diameter of the rubber seal lightly before you drive it in, but I've never had a problem cleaning the surfaces and driving them in dry. A little bit of lubrication on the outside of the seal will help it go in easily though. I personally like to dry fit them to ensure they don't come back out on their own, but you can booger them up if you're not careful. Probably best to just put a very light coat of grease on the OD of the seal before you drive it in.
@ericb2796
@ericb2796 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Pete. What do you use to drive the new seal in so it's square? Also, do you use motor oil to lubricate the pump O-ring and is there any sealant used on the outside of the new seal before it is driven in? Lastly, do you use any special tool to get the crankshaft pulley back on without damage or just push it on and tighten it back with the 19mm bolt? Thanks in advance.
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 7 жыл бұрын
I use a standard seal driver like this: www.amazon.com/Powerbuilt-648495-Seal-Installer-Kit/dp/B0015UXUCE/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1493865553&sr=8-12&keywords=seal+driver I put a very light coat of o-ring compatible grease on the o-ring (just pull the o-ring lightly through my fingers with some grease on them.) Dabs of the same grease to hold the o-ring in the groove so it doesn't fall out and get pinched as I install the pump body. No sealant on the outside diameter of the seal before I drive it in. Some people like to put a really thin coat of grease on the outside to assist in getting it in the bore of the pump body, but I've always driven that main seal in dry and clean and never had a problem with it leaking past the outside diameter. If the seal bore is dinged up and you're worried about it sealing to the OD of the seal, you might try a really light coat of RTV or some other thin sealant around the OD of the seal, but I've never felt the need. I've always thought that lubing that outside diameter on that front main seal might give it the chance to get pushed back out by oil pressure. Again, seal manufacturers usually call for a really light coat of grease on the O.D. of rubber coated seals to aid in driving it in. I ALWAYS grease the LIPS lips of the seal when installing it to help keep from damaging it during install and then at initial start up. The pulley is keyed to the crankshaft with a big woodruff key. No special tool to install it, just get it lined up with the woodruff key, push it on as far as it will go, and then crank it down with the 19mm bolt.
@petratical
@petratical 6 жыл бұрын
But be careful with that OEM 19 mm bolt, as if you do not get the balancer on far enough, initially by hand force, you could damage the threads when cranking down on the bolt, since it was not made for such purpose (not long enough). Using a tool specific for this job is safer!. You can rent/purchase the tool, and get money back (Tool loan thing) at Advanced auto, or Oreillies.
@tommykron2984
@tommykron2984 Жыл бұрын
@WheeliePete, I just ran into the same problem @Ben Hanley (down below) had. I was all set putting the new Aisin oil pump on and got all four bolts torqued bottom part of the pump and started torquing the top bolt (through the timing chain cover). Had some resistance and going good, then it just slipped and kept free spinning. Took the bolt out along with the aluminum threads from the timing chain cover. I am, pretty sure a shop tried to correct a previous oil leak by over tightening. Either way, now I have the dilemma of should I put a helicoil in now or do I chance messing a bunch of stuff up by removing the timing chain cover to install helicoil? Can't find a good helpful video on this.
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete Жыл бұрын
I've never done a thread repair on that hole, but I bet it could be done with the oil pump off and just be really careful about shavings and try not to break the tang of the helicoil off and have it fall into the engine. Removing the timing cover with the head in place can be done, but it's tricky because of the head gasket overlap at the top of the timing cover (junction of the head, timing cover and block.) If you booger up the head gasket right there you'll end up with another oil leak. If you're going to go that far into it you might as well replace the timing chain, guides, etc. The other thing you really have to watch out for is there's a hidden bolt in the head that sits in a puddle of oil under the distributor drive gear. That bolt is through the head and into the top edge of the timing cover. People often forget about it, start prying on the timing cover after they *think* they have all the bolts out, and then snap the timing cover. I have done timing replacement though with the head in place, you just have to be really careful when you do go to pry off the timing cover and then make sure all your sealing surfaces are really clean before you put it all back together. One last thing, if you decide to get a new timing cover, and if you're engine has been rebuilt and has had the head surfaced or decked, you'll want to make sure your new timing cover is the same height as your old timing cover. If the engine has been rebuilt and they machined the block with the timing cover in place to match the height, then the new timing cover will need to be machined to the same spec.
@tommykron2984
@tommykron2984 Жыл бұрын
@@WheeliePete Roger that, I'm going to attempt to helicoil it with the timing cover in place. The rebuilt engine has maybe 50K on it. I don't want to risk pulling it all apart not really knowing what I'm doing. Spoke to a local mechanic yesterday and we agreed the less amount of shavings in the engine the better. Will get the tang of the helicoil out somehow. He stated that the oil screen should pick up any shavings prior to entering the engine anyway. I was searching for an oil flow diagram of the 22RE to confirm. I think I'll do an oil change prior to starting the engine once everything is back in place. Thanks for the info.👍
@huaraches5451
@huaraches5451 6 жыл бұрын
Seems like i fixed it and drove perfect for a week to work prob 150 miles in after i fixed it and today i noticed it leaked from the bolts. To be precise it is the long one on the right facing the front of the engine.
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 6 жыл бұрын
That bolt shouldn't need the sealant, but you might try some sealant on that one too. Could also be the 0-ring got compromised up near there and oil is getting out through the bolt hole. Is it a steady leak? There's an off chance it was just oil getting squeezed out between the mating surfaces during reassembly?
@BraddahBang
@BraddahBang 7 жыл бұрын
does this apply to a Toyota Corona 1981 as well? it's a 22r motor but a little bit different from the trucks. I have a leak up front of the oil pan. thought it was the oil pan gasket but more likely the oil pump...
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 7 жыл бұрын
Yep, will work on the 22r in the Corona. I've had two of those over the years. Loved that car!
@barretburlage9143
@barretburlage9143 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Wheelie Pete, great video! Do you use any sealant or copper spray on the gasket for the oil pump and water pump?
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 6 жыл бұрын
The oil pump is sealed by an o-ring so I just use a couple dabs of grease to hold that in place in its groove as I put the oil pump body onto the timing cover. The water pump on the 22R series uses a regular flat (paper) style gasket. What I like to do is give a light coat of Permatex hi tack to any flat gasket that is sealing oil or coolant. Here's an affiliate link to the stuff on Amazon: amzn.to/2ufScjF That stuff is sticky and can be a little tricky to work with, but it works awesome, is highly resistant to oil, gas, and coolant, never fully hardens so you can disassemble again down the road without a huge hassle, and it cleans up easily with acetone. I've NEVER had a gasket leak that I applied Hi Tack to. It seals everything up really, really well. Takes care of little nicks in aluminum sealing surfaces too. The only downside is that it's a bit messy, but you can control that. I usually put the gasket down on some cardboard and then paint the surface I'm going to stick on first, then I either paint the other side in place, or paint the surface that's going to go down on top of it. (I don't get paid to promote products on amazon, but if you end up ordering something off an affiliate link I get a small commission on the sale. Doesn't cost you anything extra.)
@barretburlage9143
@barretburlage9143 6 жыл бұрын
Ah great! Would you recommend I use the Hi Tack on the Timing Cover Gaskets too? Guess I can take this $10 Copper spray back lol.
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 6 жыл бұрын
Hi tack on any flat gasket that is sealing oil or water (timing cover gaskets included). (About the only thing I wouldn't use it on are exhaust gaskets). The copper spray will probably work just fine though. I've just always used Hi Tack because it's always worked perfectly for me.
@jrpritchard1622
@jrpritchard1622 4 ай бұрын
I've done had my truck in the shop twice and they seem to not get it from leaking do you think i need to try the slim seal
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 4 ай бұрын
If the groove in the crankshaft pulley is so deep that the seal won't work then you'll either have to have a speedy sleeve put on it or buy a new crankshaft pulley with a smooth sealing surface. A third option would be if you know any machinists they could weld the groove and then re-machine the sealing surface. But unless you have a friend who's a machinist, it'd be cheaper to buy a new pulley.
@justinbarilar6615
@justinbarilar6615 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, what type of grease do you use on the seal and also to hold the o-ring in place?
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 5 жыл бұрын
I just use whatever can of high-temp bearing grease I have laying around. It's sticky enough it won't migrate or fly out.
@dwizdofoz.
@dwizdofoz. Жыл бұрын
Bought the O-ring, got the 5 bolts out. Damned if I can get the pump housing off. Steel hammer, pry bar and steel hammer. That sucker isn't moving. Finally gave up, Prey it doesn't leak for me! Pulled a narrow seal and stuck in a wider one.
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete Жыл бұрын
My guess is that the hollow alignment dowels in the timing cover are seized to their holes in the oil pump binding the oil pump to the timing cover. In the video at 3:06 you can see the dowels in the timing cover (middle left and low right as seen facing the timing cover.) could also be the oil pump drive gear binding up on the crankshaft drive spline too I guess. could put the crankshaft pulley back and in the truck in neutral and wiggle the engine back and forth with the crank pulley to try and free things up. But I bet it was the dowels. Sounds like you got it fixed regardless. Most shops would just pry the seal carefully out and drive in a new one to save time. I like to inspect everything so I always take the extra step and pull the pump. If you do have to go back in there, and it still won't budge, I would CAREFULLY, heat up those two areas with a propane torch that have the alignment dowels and then put some penetrating spray in there so help them get unstuck.
@dwizdofoz.
@dwizdofoz. Жыл бұрын
@@WheeliePete Thanks, I completely missed the dowels. I put the crank pulley back on but was supplied the 60mm impeller water pump not the 69mm I ordered. I may yet pull the pulley and have another shot at it as the o-ring is here in it's bag. Mechanic for 40 odd years though and I didn't dare hit/pry harder than what I was as there was zero movement. Now I see the dowels I can work "local" to those and perhaps have a better shot. I'd hate to have to do it all again. Cheers from Australia.
@ulyssesr7431
@ulyssesr7431 7 жыл бұрын
Quick question how do I loosen up the belts on mine. The video show everything pretty much removed but how would I do it while the engine is still in the vehicle?
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 7 жыл бұрын
For the alternator you loosen the top fixing bolt of the alternator and push the alternator towards the engine, that puts slack in that belt and then you can remove it. You may have to also loosen the lower bolt if it is pinching the bottom mount of the alternator so hard you can't pivot the alternator after loosening the top one. For the power steering (if so equipped) you have to first loosen the nut in the center of the power steering IDLER PULLEY (not the pulley on the power steering pump, the idler pulley to the left of the power steering pump when facing the front of the engine.) Then you can move the idler pulley by using a socket and a ratchet on the left of the idler pulley on the end of the idler pulley bracket to move the pulley left and right in it's bracket...but first you have to loosen the big nut on the front of the idler pulley or it won't go anywhere.
@keanuhiona1340
@keanuhiona1340 6 жыл бұрын
Great video wheeliepete. I have a question where can I find that same pulley wrench??
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 6 жыл бұрын
I originally got it from harbor freight, but I don't see it listed on their site any more. The best thing by far is to make or buy a pulley holder that bolts to the crankshaft pulley and holds it still while you tighten or loosen the nut.
@keanuhiona1340
@keanuhiona1340 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for checking and getting back to me I'll keep looking our try make something sucks we don't have a harbor freight out here in Hawaii.
@Art-mn8nk
@Art-mn8nk 3 жыл бұрын
Hey wheeelie pete, do you have to align the crankshaft pulley before you pull it off? Like you align the valves or the distributor?
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 3 жыл бұрын
Not for replacing the front main seal. The crankshaft pulley is keyed to the crankshaft with a woodruff key. There is only one way it can be put back on the crankshaft.
@Art-mn8nk
@Art-mn8nk 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there wheelie pete. So i ended up replacing my oil pump, o-ring and oil seal with the parr you listed- even 22reperformance advertises that same seal. Anyways so after everything was done. I went for a ride and im guessing that seal didn't hold the oil pressure and i had a major oil leak/ blew oil all over the motor it's everywhere. I leaked out all the oil. Luckily i was close to home. So i made it home before any major fault occured.. But i was smoking from the engine and my oil is completely empty now that the motor is cold. I am going to replace the seal with what i came off with which was "national seal 710345"
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 3 жыл бұрын
@@Art-mn8nk Before you pull the new seal out of the oil pump, be sure it wasn't the o-ring. If that o-ring slips out of the groove when you are putting the oil pump back on the front of the block and it gets pinched, it will create a big leak.
@rogertaylor5806
@rogertaylor5806 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 1979 toyota hilux with a 20 r motor. will i have to pull the motor to make this repair. it kind of looks like i wont but im not sure
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 4 жыл бұрын
Nope, you can do all this without pulling the motor.
@kd4uga
@kd4uga 7 жыл бұрын
This video was very helpful as I just changed my front seal, oil pump, and oil pan gasket due to an oil leak. But, I still have a serious leak from the front seal/pump area. Any ideas what could be going on? I did the job just like you showed with thread sealant on the one bolt and all bolts torqued to spec. I wonder if I have something going on with the crankshaft? The seal surface was smooth with no grooves. Many thanks to any ideas and thank you very much for your videos. They are amazing.
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 7 жыл бұрын
If it's still leaking a lot and you drove the seal in square to the bore, the most likely scenario would that the oil-pump o-ring did not stay seated in the groove when you put the pump back on the timing cover. If that o-ring is compromised it will leak a lot as the oil is under pressure right there. Can you identify where the oil is coming from? A leaking o-ring will manifest by oil leaking from the seam between the pump body and the timing cover. Clean everything off, run the engine, shut it off and look for where the leak is coming from. There will usually be some oil seepage for the first little while as the oil you put on the gears when reinstalling them will have run down over the o-ring and then get squeezed out between the oil pump and the timing cover during install. That should usually clear up within a few days.
@kd4uga
@kd4uga 7 жыл бұрын
The seal was already seated in the oil pump that I put on. It could be that o-ring. I didn't feel good about it when I put it back together. It's leaking too much to just be seepage. I guess I will take it apart again and reseat the o-ring. Thanks!!
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 7 жыл бұрын
Use a few dabs of a sticky automotive grease in the o-ring groove and then press the o-ring into the groove. The sticky grease will hold it in place while you put it on the timing cover.
@kd4uga
@kd4uga 6 жыл бұрын
Turns out the harmonic balancer has a groove in the sealing surface. When I did this a few months ago, I only looked at the crank surface for some reason. I have ordered the thin seal you recommended. Hopefully, that will take care of it. Thanks again for the video.
@kd4uga
@kd4uga 6 жыл бұрын
I finally got everything put back together and there is no oil pressure on the gauge in the truck. Engine runs great, no knocks or anything. Is there an easy way to check the oil pressure? I can't imagine why there wouldn't be oil pressure.
@scotthull2414
@scotthull2414 8 жыл бұрын
hey Pete I live in the same town as u I believe and have just recently found my love for Toyotas and wheelin I don't currently have a rig but I'm looking I don't have much cash was wondering if u had any ideas or advice if u would like to talk and possible help my love for Toyotas grow I have watched all ur 4x4 videos just so I know what I'm looking at before I buy anything. Any help or advice or just want a helping hand if we are in the same town let me know would love to help and learn
@WheeliePete
@WheeliePete 8 жыл бұрын
+Scott Hull Hi Scott, send an email to WP-Outside@hotmail.com and we can chat.
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