How To Form Super Germany in Victoria 3

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Toby

Toby

Жыл бұрын

In this Video I will show you how to unite all German peoples under the great nation of Prussia with consistency. This video was voted on by you all so be sure to watch out for the next poll when it comes out. Also be sure to let me know which countries you want o see done next in the comments below.

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@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox 11 күн бұрын
THIS GUIDE IS OUTDATED. Here is a link to a more up to date guide. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3jGmYd6jMR8Z6M
@davidmathews9284
@davidmathews9284 Жыл бұрын
I died of laughter watching this. They actually made forming super germany even EASIER in vic3.
@vepiol2278
@vepiol2278 Жыл бұрын
Albeit, Super Germany is imo not as strong in vic 3 as it was in vic 2. The main reasons Vic 2 supergermany was so strong was due to an elevated birth rate due to 40 life rating, high literacy, and a lot of industrial materials. In vic 3, literacy is very easy to get and very fast to get as long as you can pass any type of education reform and doesn't matter as much due to technology spread, birth rate is entirely based on SoL and healthcare now so germany gets no privileges there, and so the only thing that makes them super powerful is their industrial resources, which is still insane in Vic 3.
@TheDarkendstar
@TheDarkendstar Жыл бұрын
You can’t do it nearly as fast tho
@itsrobot7339
@itsrobot7339 Жыл бұрын
I never thought about unifying big germany diplomatically, i always did it with austria. This is way better
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
I believe you can do the same strategy with Austria against Prussia.
@infini_ryu9461
@infini_ryu9461 Жыл бұрын
It's the same strategy. Bankrolling is freaking OP.
@edgyguy7084
@edgyguy7084 Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox yes you can, but that way you have to deal with all those small north german states since pan nationalism. And lets not forget all those damn Krakow redical revolts... Such a pain in the interface...
@martinfalkenberg64
@martinfalkenberg64 Жыл бұрын
Great guide. Thx. I learned a couple things. 1. I would improve relations with Austria day one and unrival them. It save some time. 2. I would rival the Ottomans (Austria also often rivals them +) and the USA just for the diplo points. 3. Why not use the war against someone you do not already get for free? I like Switzerland
@palmirotogliatti8622
@palmirotogliatti8622 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't play without your videos, thank you for everything.
@Dogwithouthat
@Dogwithouthat Жыл бұрын
These are awesome videos man seriously underrated. Keep it up!
@MrWasjig
@MrWasjig Жыл бұрын
I didn't realise just how powerful obligations truly were until I watched this! Many thanks, I'm going to abuse the heck out of obligations
@gubblfisch350
@gubblfisch350 Жыл бұрын
Disempowering the Shogunate in Japan definitely deserves a guide. I'm sure you can find a good strategy. There might also be interest in guides for the 2 very hard achievements.
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
If you don't mind me asking, which 2 are the very hard ones? I'm guessing American Territory and Peccavi?
@gubblfisch350
@gubblfisch350 Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox All achievements are classified in more or less acurate difficulties. They can be seen on the wiki achievement page. Very hard are Indian territory and An Empire under the sun.
@KittenCritters
@KittenCritters Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox the hardest by far are American Territory, Barbary's Back and Manifest Mexico
@souptime1554
@souptime1554 Жыл бұрын
Love these videos! Hopefully paradox adds more formables in a later patch
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, formable nations are some of the most fun things in paradox games imo.
@BeefcakeTLT
@BeefcakeTLT Жыл бұрын
thanks for the great guide! I would really like a guide on the game for Russia
@Dinawartotem
@Dinawartotem Жыл бұрын
If you want to get an early lazzies Faire / Free Trade combo you can do corn laws at the start of the game. Once you go north german confederation you cannot get a market liberal landowner to spawn because the leader of the junkers will be event determined and he cannot be removed via corn laws.
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Good to know, I'll have to look into that.
@deveshilegate1104
@deveshilegate1104 Жыл бұрын
Awesome videos! I'd like to see a guide on Hawaii. I've seen a few videos of cut play-thrus but I'm interested to know how you'd get over the first hurdles as such a small state. Joining a larger market is usually easy enough but getting that first 3k gold to put down some construction sectors can still be challenging. Also, being small puts a lot of focus on immigration so I'd be interested to know what can be done to boost that early game. A video or any advice on this would be great. :)
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Best way to boost immigration is by making the Intelligencia a powerful interest group that's loyal to you, and by keeping unemployment at basically 0. You can also use greener grass decrees. Also Getting your literacy rate up is a must so you can get much higher innovation. An Excellent small nation to test this out on is Belgium, I was messing around and without expanding a single state was able to have the highest gdp in the world before 1880.
@mytiliss682
@mytiliss682 Жыл бұрын
You should focus on very profitable good, I saw some small nations with 15+ SoL and it wasn't gold. You can get first money by puppeting someone, your overlord if you are protectorate usually is willing to join. The only problem is gaining random prestige from reforms to get higher rank.
@zakgour9786
@zakgour9786 Жыл бұрын
this was really helpful thank you
@GoddessRyo
@GoddessRyo Жыл бұрын
not only was this a very entertaining video but i was also really informative for more than forming super germany tysm! also now i wanna form super germany cuz omg
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
I kinda want to try a Germany world conquest tbh.
@TheLeperofJerusalem
@TheLeperofJerusalem Жыл бұрын
just found in game that this works thank you so much
@turtlerollover9382
@turtlerollover9382 Жыл бұрын
I never even thought to use bankrolling to get obligations. That just made diplomacy so much easier as a wealthy nation.
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was driving home from work one day and it hit me out of the blue that I can just pay people to F off.
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Also I like the profile pic
@HaHaBIah
@HaHaBIah Жыл бұрын
I decided to do my second vic3 game as Prussia after the Belgian Tutorial. I also did a lot of bankrolls to try and unify Germany quickly through confederations. Didn't realise that the form Germany button takes attitude into account and not just owned states.
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Yep, attitude is the big killer in this game, thankfully you can abuse the hell out of it.
@Mastrethe
@Mastrethe Жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Can you do Ottoman Empire tutorial next ?
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
I am working on the Ottoman Empire Video now, however there is still a lot of rng I'm trying to Iron out. Fixing the ottoman Empire requires passing a lot of low chance to succeed laws. So It's basically just finding out how to Get rid of the randomness of it.
@michawiktor9592
@michawiktor9592 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I loved the fact of bringing Austria into war haha. Genial Please make video how to form Poland. Also video about Austria would be nice
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
I want to make a video on Poland but it would take way too long to come up with a way of doing it. I will eventually make it but a Poland video will be long into the future.
@michawiktor9592
@michawiktor9592 Жыл бұрын
Great. U can work on it in chunks as well man. Take care
@irishakita
@irishakita Жыл бұрын
Austria had a revolt in Krakow in my run, so my progress with them got significantly boosted once I sided with them. Oldenburg and Hamburg really didn't want to budge though
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
I explained it kinda poorly in the video, but the reason you go to war with Luxembourg is so that you can call anyone who is still cautious of you at that point into the war so they'll become genial. That's the reason to spend the effort to get obligations over them all.
@irishakita
@irishakita Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox yeah, but they didn't have interest in the Rhine so I just waited it out for an extra year
@deutscheskaiserreich7631
@deutscheskaiserreich7631 Жыл бұрын
You can also get Luxemburg, managed to do it in a multiplayer game
@alatamore
@alatamore Жыл бұрын
Great video! I’d love to see a USA video. All the big content creators did US videos on the pre-release build, and my experience has been that they did some game updates that reduced (though didn’t totally remove) all of the cheese options there. So it’s still possible to ban “S” without civil “conflict” but it’s not as easy as it was. Also it’s still possible to puppet Mexico without a war, but I found it took forever to get them up to annex, and when I did it tanked my economy, and spread chaos in half my states.
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
yeah any time you annex a country, it will tank the economy because none of the states are incorporated. Usually the deficit will go away once the states are all fully incorporated.
@alatamore
@alatamore Жыл бұрын
In my case the moment I annexed Mexico every province there went into turmoil over 40%, and in several months most of my western US provinces (which were fine before) went as well. My radicals went from 120k or so to 3.5million. I’m still struggling through it, developing Mexico to bring up the standard of living but it’s a huge slog.
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
@@alatamore I would say that if they had turmoil as soon as you annexed them then Mexico was already having trouble with it themselves. Try and make sure none of the Mexican pops are being discriminated against, and try to buff your police forces.
@alatamore
@alatamore Жыл бұрын
I had multiculturalism passed already which I think has helped with it coming down. I can’t figure out why the US pops also had issues though. The states were impoverished though so that might be part of it. The eastern ones which were richer had no issues.
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
@@alatamore Standard of living plays a huge role in radicalism, best way to fix this is to simply produce more goods for lower class pops, things like food, clothes, and furniture. You want things like that to be cheap in your market so the lower strata can afford them easily.
@John-li6sk
@John-li6sk Жыл бұрын
Great video
@lukasbaumgartner5493
@lukasbaumgartner5493 Жыл бұрын
Nice video!! How does doing this is as Austria effect getting the achievement 'Hapsburg Resurgence'?
@archiqm
@archiqm Жыл бұрын
hi! great tuturial, thank you very much. I have tried it also but the austrians wouldn't give me obligation...but...but, their puppet, Krakow started an uprising and gues what, the good guy Bismark came to help the old budy austria in this great war :D they loved it so i've got my Obligation :D and formed germany :P
@scottx1415
@scottx1415 Жыл бұрын
well done - more like this pls
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
absolutely
@strategystuff5080
@strategystuff5080 Жыл бұрын
I mean I did this as Austria in 3 years militarily (its on KZbin, its a low quality stream but its something), Ive not done this your way though, VERY interesting
@adammokusz865
@adammokusz865 Жыл бұрын
I would love to do this, but the thing I would change is add areoai and use its autobuild feature instead of automatic expansion.
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
I assume that's a mod?
@adammokusz865
@adammokusz865 Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox anbeeld´s revision of AI, a mod that makes the AI a LOT smarter and has an autobuild feature which you can find in the decisions part of the journal.
@kaisermosh4057
@kaisermosh4057 Жыл бұрын
you are officially the Victoria 3 guy
@tuberculosis2266
@tuberculosis2266 Жыл бұрын
I love how it’s still possible to form super Germany out of pure exploity means
@strategystuff5080
@strategystuff5080 Жыл бұрын
I managed to do it in 1843 Ironman, I did not even get particularly lucky, it is very consistent
@1fr353
@1fr353 Жыл бұрын
Bro is playing the first Europa Universalis 💀💀
@johndoe6011
@johndoe6011 Жыл бұрын
Looking at the intro map, I jsut noticed the Skandinavian bias, that Bornholm is added in the game, but not Sylt or other islands :(
@dillinperry
@dillinperry Жыл бұрын
This is so broken lol, I love it
@andenfighter0078
@andenfighter0078 Жыл бұрын
Just checking in, you probably want to have more than 35 construction points in 1844; perhaps even 10 times as much If you wanna be meta about it i'd suggest going maximum taxes and having as many construction sectors as your income allows, you can always not-construct if you need money. The 10x extra buildings will a) boost your economy substantially (after all that's what the game is all about), b) make your pops richer as they won't be peasants, thus increasing needs and pop growth and c) increase income as more GDP = more minting and more pop income = more income through taxes. My guess is you just didnt bother to micro the construction as you just wanted to show the strategy but incase someone doesnt know, there you go yet another guide
@termimateo0367
@termimateo0367 Жыл бұрын
Please do the Austria video 👍
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
I will start working on an Austria Video soon, I just need to finish the ones I've already started working on.
@infini_ryu9461
@infini_ryu9461 Жыл бұрын
With even more improvements, this would be the absolute meta playthrough for Austria or Prussia. You would be so powerful you could just liberate a bunch of nations from the ottomans and enforce protectorate status for low infamy.
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Well my friend, if you would like to see the "meta", just wait for the next video. I may be about to get this game patched with the amount of bs I'm about to pull.
@Bighawkeye46
@Bighawkeye46 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see this from the Austrian perspective. I've tried a number of times and have only been able to win the leadership play. But can Austria incorporate/federate with the German minors like Prussian can? I've never received a popup even though I've had nationalism/pan-nationalism and great relations with all the German minors. Up to and including having them in my market rather than Prussia's. So any tips and tricks would be appreciated! Great video from the Prussian side of things!
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
There seems to be a pretty big demand for an Austrian Perspective so I may make a video n that soon. I don't have any immediate tips other then what is shown in video, but I will begin working on an Austrian PoV soon.
@termimateo0367
@termimateo0367 Жыл бұрын
Good video
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@simoncasady-kahler1528
@simoncasady-kahler1528 Жыл бұрын
I want to see an austrian video if you can :)
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
There seems to be a high demand for it so and Austria Video will be coming in the near future.
@marcbecker1431
@marcbecker1431 Жыл бұрын
I shudder at the thought of researching a Tier 3 tech with so many Tier 2s left undone. I wonder if it's actually faster than researching several T2s first...?
@hagalathekido
@hagalathekido Жыл бұрын
if you just want that tech its quicker yes, once you have all tier 2's tier 3 is half price
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Hagala is exactly correct. However I did come to realize that you don't actually need Pan-Nationalism to form SG.
@oxjmanxo
@oxjmanxo Жыл бұрын
There is no reason to pause construction during a defect as that is paid by the investment pool.
@joshb7415
@joshb7415 Жыл бұрын
none of these videos show you where the nation formation tab is, yours didnt either. spent ages trying to find it
@mossfen583
@mossfen583 Жыл бұрын
Swimmy would be proud
@horoshopirozhki7818
@horoshopirozhki7818 Жыл бұрын
an Austrian version would be quite nice
@fsulitskiy
@fsulitskiy Жыл бұрын
I don't undersand why but for me when I get to the part of inviting Asutria to my war against Luxemburg Austria just refuses to support by bid for unification :// They support it in terms of score but they don't aknowledge it which prevents me from annexing their lands
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
You'll have to make sure their relationship with you is high enough before hand, I believe it needs to be at minimum amicable before hand, otherwise their support for you want be enough. If that doesn't work try waiting until it becomes friendly before attempting to unite.
@fsulitskiy
@fsulitskiy Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox you were right! Turns out a state won't announce their support until it gets at over 50 support score. And that's only achievable if the relations are amiable
@gabelol9987
@gabelol9987 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on Canada??
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
I will do a video on Canada at some point, it's kinda far down the list though because there isn't much desire for it currently. It's basically the same process as Australia (which I made a video for) and I recommend starting as the Hudson Bay Company.
@hargoxd9558
@hargoxd9558 Жыл бұрын
Its been a few years in game and the german states stopped unifying with me (with great relations) so I cant form the north german confederation how do I fix this? I have pan nationalism.
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
It isn't stated well in game, but to get nations with south German as their culture to join you, you'll have to wait for them to research pan nationalism. It took me forever to figure this out, hope it helps.
@dreamypizza8458
@dreamypizza8458 10 ай бұрын
I love this game because it makes you unironically makes you say shit like "lets go and research nationalism"
@gabelol9987
@gabelol9987 Жыл бұрын
This is so smart
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@lionkingmerlin
@lionkingmerlin Жыл бұрын
Can you do how to play Japan?
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
I will do Japan, probably not for a while, but I will do them.
@pitakon
@pitakon Жыл бұрын
Lol I wish you did this with the nozi party in power just to be funny.
@FG_Remastered
@FG_Remastered Жыл бұрын
I got screwed over twice in one run trying to replicate this. First France declared me their rival and second Austria formed an alliance with Russia. Do you have any suggestions on how to avoid that?
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
I can't say I do, I made this run 4 times before making the video and never had Austria form any alliances. As for France you only need your relations neutral to bank roll them. So if relations are cold simple improve them until they become neutral again.
@FG_Remastered
@FG_Remastered Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox Ty!
@eliassantos6993
@eliassantos6993 Жыл бұрын
same for me i tried 7 times now and austria always allies russia
@FG_Remastered
@FG_Remastered Жыл бұрын
@@eliassantos6993 It appears to come from you being too friendly with the other great powers. Try spacing the bankrolling out a little.
@eliassantos6993
@eliassantos6993 Жыл бұрын
@@FG_Remastered did that and it seemed to work ty
@blur-blade4981
@blur-blade4981 Жыл бұрын
I can just never get any obligtions? Do you think the game rigs it because I’ve been bankrolling Russia for 4 years and didn’t get one
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
I have noticed that sometimes I wouldn't get obligations when I felt I should have. I'm not sure if it's a bug or a feature though. in the video I had to change plans because I waited 5 years and never got my obligation on France.
@Tovone321
@Tovone321 Жыл бұрын
does this still work, cause i tried it that way with austria? cause if i call them into the war with luxembug I cant start another diplomatic play with austria now to form germany, seems like its fixed, cause austria still stays as a unification candidate for me even though i did the same thing
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
To my knowledge it still works, I will have to check though.
@Tovone321
@Tovone321 Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox maybe i did something in wrong order, ill try again and then respnd :D
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
@@Tovone321 They Should Stop being a Unification Candidate as soon as you win the leadership Play, you will have to force that demand on them during the peace treaty or it won't happen.
@Tovone321
@Tovone321 Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox yea found the mistake it works, didn't even have to go into any war xD great guide, thanks
@_QuanLucVinh
@_QuanLucVinh Жыл бұрын
Yugoslavia and romania pls
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Those two are both on the list, I'm still trying to make a consistent guide for them work.
@bretthuff8971
@bretthuff8971 Жыл бұрын
Going to need an update to the guide. Something changed and now the southern states always break custom union with you and side with austria in leader ship play. Even when facing down prussia, france, russia, and GB, austria never backs down.
@fotioslioutsis1680
@fotioslioutsis1680 Жыл бұрын
Didn't work for me. In second part (for German Empire) I couldn't improve relations with Austria. Can you hint when this happens?
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
This can happen for a few reasons. If the button isn't there it means you don't have enough influence and need to cancel some other bank rolls. If you can hit the button but relations won't go up, that means Austria must have started damaging relations with you. Also make sure to cancel your rivalry with them as well.
@fotioslioutsis1680
@fotioslioutsis1680 Жыл бұрын
My bad it depends on available influence.
@f1foreveryone879
@f1foreveryone879 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I just don't really know why the austrian accept to be part of the german empire as it is not really historically accurate Maybe in a few videos i would like to see if as france or britain you can create an alliance with prussia / britain/ france to launch a campaign vs russia ottoman empire and austria cause the fight should be pretty fair
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Historically accurate no, fun as hell though? Absolutely! I know it isn't historical at all, but I really love that this is in the game.
@f1foreveryone879
@f1foreveryone879 Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox absolutely right 👍
@f1foreveryone879
@f1foreveryone879 Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox maybe they thought of creating even weirder empires
@StefanRadermacher
@StefanRadermacher Жыл бұрын
I've tried this 3 times now, but I always go bankrupt halfway through...
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
If you're need to you can always pause construction or stop bankrolling if money starts to become an issue.
@jacobpiche4092
@jacobpiche4092 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Luxembourg didn't win the poll says allot about society 📫
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Ur Mom
@AlmostWilder
@AlmostWilder Жыл бұрын
im really stuck. I bankrolled prussia, got our relations to 80 but I can't get their attitude to genial so I can form germany through that war thing. im playing as austria hungary and I have (hang in here with me please) Schwelsig-Holstein, Mecklenburg, Austro-hungarian anhalt, Hanover, Elbe, Brunswick, Hesse, Austro-Hungarian Wallonia, Saxony, Wurtemburg, Baden, Bavaria and Franconia as part of my country excluding the normal ones. how do I get our attitude to genial?
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
You should be able to get an obligation over Prussia and Use it to call them into a war on the same side as you. They should then get a modifier of "On same side of Diplomatic Play as you", and that should move the attitude above genial. Make sure you form Germany Before the war starts though because I don't believe you can form it while at war.
@AlmostWilder
@AlmostWilder Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox thank you for replying ridiculously fast! sorry to bother you again, but what nation should I go to war with?
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
@@AlmostWilder In the Video I chose to do Luxembourg Because they would cause the least amount of infamy, however the only thing you really want to make sure is that the powers you want to unite with all have an interest in that region, otherwise they can't join you. I think Luxembourg is the safest option, but if you want to avoid infamy all together you can just declare a humiliation war.
@AlmostWilder
@AlmostWilder Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox thanks, im going to do it with moldovia since i already have luxembourg. love your content!
@onetwobuckaroo4166
@onetwobuckaroo4166 Жыл бұрын
when you form Super Germany you get all of Austria's land, not just the german lands, would this mean that getting France as a friend in the diplomatic play give you all of their lands, or am I misunderstanding something?
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
No France will never join in unification of Germany. When you go to the country formation screen, only the countries with their flags present have the opportunity to be unified.
@jordini3381
@jordini3381 Жыл бұрын
how comes when i do it the obligations take until 1843 to get all 3 and then after that the ottomans side with the austrians and russia and the uk engage and lose all my battles for me :( i must have some trash luck cos france hasnt even bothered helping
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
check before hand which powers have an interest in that region, then bankroll any other major power . If you need to you can bank roll the ottomans as well to get an obligation over them too.
@Dark.Phoenix
@Dark.Phoenix Жыл бұрын
Doesn't really work anymore since the 1.2 patch. At least it seems so, because the whole RNG system has got f'cked up on my end.
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
So the system is no longer as effective, but it still works. the chance of getting an obligation was dropped from 1% to 0.2%. so it now takes about 10 years to get one instead 2. So strategy still works, but it's not nearly as reliable.
@Dark.Phoenix
@Dark.Phoenix Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox yeah, I noticed to get and Russian Obligation after abt. 8 years and then actually got Austria to back down. And since Pan-Nationalism now takes 9 years to research, I just bankrolled Austria after they got neutral and then 3 years after I got Pan-Nationalism I formed Super Germany with the same tactic.
@sahilhossian8212
@sahilhossian8212 Жыл бұрын
Lore of How To Form Super Germany in Victoria 3 momentum 100
@Shootskas
@Shootskas Жыл бұрын
Can Bavaria form Germany? Or just Prussia and Austria?
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Any German state can form Germany.
@zand0x
@zand0x Жыл бұрын
I would lovely See belgium That creats the benelux states and overtakes France or Parts of it.
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Belgium was actually the one of the first ones I tried to make, but kept getting stuck because of all the defensive alliances my neighbors would form by the time I became actually powerful. Though with the new obligation thing I found I can probably make something pretty consistent.
@martinlisitsata
@martinlisitsata Жыл бұрын
vic 2 had one of these i am surprised that it took so long for vic 3
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
I'm kinda shocked too, people knew about being able to form SG in vic 3 for a few weeks now, but no one made a consistent guide for it, so I figured I'd step in.
@sezione
@sezione Жыл бұрын
In my game I actually got the Austrians to be reconciliatory with me after the war because of the pannationalism research, I don't know if it's rng or not, just happened that way so I didn't need to bankroll them at all. Also, you literally steal all german culture states if you have +50 relationships with them, absolutely no need for war, even schleswig and holstein, I thought I was seeing things but lo and behold, once I hit form the rei... I mean greater German rei... oh nevermind, yeah, got all of them...
@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad
@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad Жыл бұрын
Germany? This is Gertoomuch
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
But we can always have GerMore
@MrMrluuc
@MrMrluuc Жыл бұрын
If you call in France against Luxembourg, wouldn't they give you alsace lorraine for the same reason Austria will join?
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately no, France is incapable of giving you Alsace Lorain diplomatically in this game. Only the Nations with the correct culture can participate in the Unification of Germany.
@sautpanjaitan8071
@sautpanjaitan8071 Жыл бұрын
correction you do not need pan nationalism to form greater germany, nationalism is enough
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
You are Correct. I made the assumption because several others required it to form other nations.
@are_you_f_serious
@are_you_f_serious Жыл бұрын
Yes. Germany how it should be. 👍🏻
@Krom5072
@Krom5072 Жыл бұрын
Removing a hard requirement of owning Alsace-Lorraine seems to have completely trivialized forming Germany in Vic 3
@omegasbt5338
@omegasbt5338 Жыл бұрын
4 weeks later and this didnt work for me anymore
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
I was actually able to do this just yesterday, if you're having issues at a particular step I'd be happy to help troubleshoot.
@omegasbt5338
@omegasbt5338 Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox mabye i just did it wrong then i got 30+ more hours then last time so i can prop see the error myself
@aasdfbbasdf2185
@aasdfbbasdf2185 Жыл бұрын
I even saw this happening with the AI forming it.
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
I haven't actually seen the AI ever form super Germany. That's Fascinating
@aasdfbbasdf2185
@aasdfbbasdf2185 Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox That was even in the old/original-version. I haven´t even learned the game at that moment. I believe that prussia did this, but I´m not sure. But not as funny as Prussia as Northgermany and Bavaria as normal Germany. Don´t know how that happened. 🤔
@big_slurp4603
@big_slurp4603 Жыл бұрын
same happened to me when I was playing as Qing
@Hatsuzu
@Hatsuzu Жыл бұрын
You don't. You return to Victoria 2, that's the real thing you do.
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
But I don't have Vic 2
@Hatsuzu
@Hatsuzu Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox it's literally 5 bucks and the DLC is on sale too. No reason not to get the better game, the modding community loves Vicky 2.
@bretthuff8971
@bretthuff8971 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if this is actually true, or just shit rng. But this strategy only works if you select prussia with no objectives. Every time I've done the hegemon or economic selections Austria never backs down.
@pteroid11
@pteroid11 Жыл бұрын
Just the thought of this happening if this were reality is hilarious to me. "Hey Austria, y'know how I bullied and financially dominated you for years? Wanna go beat up Luxembourg?" "Sure!" "HEY AUSTRIA GUESS WHAT YOU'RE NOT A COUNTRY ANYMORE!" "YAAAAAAY~!"
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
See, that's where Bismarck messed up, he should have fought Luxembourg instead of France.
@TheLeperofJerusalem
@TheLeperofJerusalem Жыл бұрын
holy shit this is broken
@TheLeperofJerusalem
@TheLeperofJerusalem Жыл бұрын
formed in only 1854 btw
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah it's broken. Probably the best set up for world conquest I've seen so far.
@tommyk7061
@tommyk7061 Жыл бұрын
Money over diplomacy.
@HumanTouchArt
@HumanTouchArt Жыл бұрын
obligations need to be patched out cause this is op hope they fiex it In the upcoming pathces ....
@smoshfan99999999
@smoshfan99999999 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes... the greater Germany plan
@yosoyairton1308
@yosoyairton1308 Жыл бұрын
Why not unite Germany as Austria? I see that everyone does that as Prussia
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
I will actually be making the video in the near future. Many people have shown interest so it's jumped up several places on the list.
@BruceWayne-kl6ch
@BruceWayne-kl6ch Жыл бұрын
i do as the you do but i can't annex austria i call them too join me the war and it plus 1000+ but they do not join with me why play as 1.1.2
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Their Relations do have to be at least amicable for them to support you, and they must not be a unification candidate.
@BruceWayne-kl6ch
@BruceWayne-kl6ch Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox oh thank you did't see part of you declare war to austria to be the only one unification candidate
@dalfokane
@dalfokane Жыл бұрын
Easy. Install mod which allows that by decision, then click the decision. No need to thank me.
@theAEDan
@theAEDan Жыл бұрын
I always laugh at the idea nationalism was “invented” in the 19th century. Like people needed to be told hey, see those people over there who speak the same language as you, look like you and worship the same God as you? Well, did you know that they speak the same language as you, look like you and worship the same god as you? Gee thanks Gregg. I would never have figured it out by myself.
@fyr3st0rm65
@fyr3st0rm65 Жыл бұрын
It's almost like it's a balancing game mechanic or something, hysterical!
@big_slurp4603
@big_slurp4603 Жыл бұрын
vgh vvhat covld have been...
@blargminton
@blargminton Жыл бұрын
makes me sad that there isnt any benefit to forming germany as a more minor power. in vic 2 if you formed germany as, say, Luxembourg then you got to keep french as an accepted culture which was HUGE in that game. now Luxembourg has wallonian as its accepted culture and even if you go through the agony that is forming germany with them you lose that accepted culture sadge
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Doing it with Bavaria gives you a cool flag
@Vanagandr518
@Vanagandr518 10 ай бұрын
This strategy doesn't work anymore since the latest patch
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox 10 ай бұрын
Lol, this strategy hasn't worked since 1.2 came out.
@eriksales4136
@eriksales4136 9 ай бұрын
damn bruh i've been trying to do this for whole 40 minutes and didnt get a single obligation needed 😭😭@@TobiasParadox
@santicraftmcesp.9178
@santicraftmcesp.9178 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but I followed your strategy as best as I could and was not able to form super germany, if you could please get back to me in this comment so we can discuss what went wrong,
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Sure, where exactly did the problem arise?
@santicraftmcesp.9178
@santicraftmcesp.9178 Жыл бұрын
Sorry for not answering for two days, but it appears even if Austria joins the war on an obligation and their attitude is genial the don’t support my unification claim,
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
@@santicraftmcesp.9178 this mostly happens because your relations aren't high enough, they'll need to be at minimum Amicable, but if that isn't enough try getting them up to friendly before launching the diplomatic play.
@santicraftmcesp.9178
@santicraftmcesp.9178 Жыл бұрын
Thenk you, next time I shall boost them till friendly, thank you so much for answering, I have been following your channel since the first video and I would like to see say that you have made the best tutorials I have seen on youtube about Victoria III, good luck on your next video and may Bismarck lead you!
@martinaustin6230
@martinaustin6230 Жыл бұрын
"How to have unplayable game performance by 1880"
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
yeah pretty much
@orphieforce3866
@orphieforce3866 Жыл бұрын
ahh yes Europa Universalis
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Honestly yeah kinda, but hey, Europa is a great game.
@TimeLordAconitum
@TimeLordAconitum Жыл бұрын
You dont need pan nationalism to form Germany. You can start with industie or other stuff.
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
You are correct, I mistakenly assumed it was needed due to it being required for other national formations in the game.
@Tom-H1
@Tom-H1 Жыл бұрын
The proper term is 'Großduetschland' 🤓🤓🤓
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
Die Amerikaner würden es nicht verstehen.
@Tom-H1
@Tom-H1 Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox Ever heard of manifest destiny?
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
@@Tom-H1 Fair point
@Intruder2003
@Intruder2003 Жыл бұрын
Does not work anymore unfortunately. Austria will no longer support you as the unifying canditate.
@veggito
@veggito Жыл бұрын
Did they patch it?
@ShallowContrarian
@ShallowContrarian Жыл бұрын
Why do you need pan-nationalism? Isn't it only nationalism required to form it?
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
I believe I was mistaken in the video. You need pan nationalism to form other countries and I assumed it was the same for Germany.
@ShallowContrarian
@ShallowContrarian Жыл бұрын
@@TobiasParadox alright. Yeah I was confused cause I'm trying out the strat rn and saw that pan-nationalism isn't in the tooltip and wondered if pan-nationalism is some secret requirement for super Germany. Thanks for the quick reply!
@sezione
@sezione Жыл бұрын
Oh who gives a shit when you have super russia right next door. All you have to do is get the lands between persia and India and Vietnamese and Siamese lands. Job done. You can get to 2 billion well before 1900s with no other conquering needed
@lollilo6030
@lollilo6030 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever become fascist? I mean we the leader of the nation fascist an the laws
@TobiasParadox
@TobiasParadox Жыл бұрын
I didn't even know that was possible in the game.
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