How to generate EDL files for Nuendo?

[@Medialover100]

Thanks for making this video. My business partner uses Adobe Premiere and I use Nuendo for audio editing. He sends many video changes that clients request & those changes drive me crazy because I have to manually move everything around on the audio timeline. Once again, thanks for this informative video. We will both use this information to speed up changes.

[@ericdeleplanque5673]

thank you for this video. but then what to do for a feature film. audio montages sometimes have more than 100 tracks. if the edl only works on 4 audio tracks, I have a hard time understanding the utility, which is only useful for reporting with few lavalier microphones, for example. or did I not understand the use of the EDL function?

[@NotesProd]

EDL are useful when you have started to work on the audio post project and then the film edit have change. You don't really have to care about the audio tracks that are in the picture edit project because the changes are related to the picture. Maybe some clips are shorter or longer or the have move on the timeline..... if so, by importing the edl file in Nuendo, your audio project will be edit following these picture edits. If some audio is added to the new version, you just have to import a new OMF or AAF file with these add on. I hope that this answer your question.

[@ericdeleplanque5673]

OK thanks. but then in my present case. the director, editor of a feature film has started editing video and audio. I was delivered an mp4 on a track generated without omf xml aff... the aaf exports with video generated video tracks but without files or data, nor even the trace of an empty container. so they made an mp4 export of everything that was edited. then they did an omf export in which I found about 30 tracks. (there are 52 actors so I will have 52 tracks). I started cleaning up dialogue audio tracks and organizing folders and stems. Here is the problem. the director will make a first projection to note the alterations requested by the production. this will therefore generate modifications to the assembly. the editor will generate a new mp4 file complete with the result of this new editing. already, the method is different from the method you explain in your video. Is the fact of generating 2 different long edits a source of error. doesn't the edl file describe each mounted video file? moreover when the second omf file will be generated the audio files of the scenes which have already been edited, will they not be overwritten? this will annoy my cleaning work, not to mention the dubbing of faulty takes that I have to redo with two or three actors. I colored in red the container of the few files to be duplicated. again, is nuendo going to keep this visual cue or not? but the biggest question remains: "what happens to the audio files already present in my computer (windows 11 pc). how to manage the loading of the 30 dialogue tracks in the event of a change? you say in the video from 1 to 4 audio tracks and there I no longer understand the limitation which destroys the usefulness of the edl. So what would be the best method in your opinion?

[@ericdeleplanque5673]

in fact I am very afraid that this new omf will crush my work. I understand the utility edl which remains the only solution to indicate the changes but if I am sure that the edl is the solution the new omf scares me very much. ara2 which allows editing of audio files with spectralayer for example does not like duplicates at all according to the nuendo documentation. it seems that has changed. I imported a pole track already present in the project and there was no crash. In summary : 1) video files must be independent of each other or can an mp4 render do the trick for edl use? 2) will the new omf overwrite my edits. 3) I used the "make offline editing permanent" feature today I figure that's a mistake. if I hadn't done this, the audio file being the same, the cleaning would have been applied to the new file since they have the same name. I also report another problem. sometimes editing with extensions whether rx spectralayer or phase alignment gets stuck. for example in the phase alignment I happened to no longer see the pole. this is very annoying since the pole is my time reference. I am therefore obliged to take the part containing the part of the perch file which has become invisible and to use the function "convert the selection to a file" but alas I see that sometimes this generates a new file name. this is totally out of the ordinary. normally the files must keep their identity. again can Edl get out of such a situation if the file name has changed? sorry I ask a lot of questions but the delivery of the rest of the assembly is coming and I fear the worst.

[@NotesProd]

@@ericdeleplanque5673 Aaf import in Nuendo do not work with video track... you have to get an mp4 separately and add it to the nuendo video track manually. Then you can import you audio with an omf or aaf (without the video track) and then you can start to work on your dialogue clean up. When you will have a new version of the edit, you will need to get EDL files to save some time on the manual task of conforming your timeline to the new version. EDL file is just an simple text file describing the start and end time code of each video clips used in the edit. What you want to do is to get and edl of the first version of the edit. No need of the audio track in the EDL here. Just the video clip list). When you will have a new version of the edit, you will need another EDL file. (same process as of the first version - without the need of the audio clip in the EDL) Nuendo will then compare both EDL and show you what have change (base on the timcode of the video clips). This will modify your timeline by moving things around accordingly to the changes between both EDL files. If some parts have been remove in the new version, your audio that is already in the project will be truncated too. If some parts are missing and you don't have the audio, you will need to import an new omf or aaf in the same project to get the new audio parts. Your editor should be able to export only the track that you need in the omf or aaf file to fill out the gaps.

[@NotesProd]

@@ericdeleplanque5673 If you import 2 times the same omf in the same Nuendo project, you will just have duplicate tracks in your project and that's it. If you have already have done some edits between the second import, you edit will remained intact.