How to get a smoother ride on the V1 Ariel Rider 52V X-Class | Rear spring swap, test, & how to

[@stan121midling5]

also would like and love to see a video on changing out the stock tires on the x-class and grizzly to the Vee tire huntsman or is there even a better tire for them out here ?

[@AdamiIAm]

Yea!...... the long awaited Rear Shock/Spring replacement! Thanks in advance, Michael 😀

[@RustyRoads]

Thank Rusty, he is one helluva camerapup!! 🥰🐾

[@thewatchfuleyez123]

I am very interested in getting one. Doing lots of homework on the bike and your video's have helped a lot.

[@brockedwards5896]

Great video. I was really considering this shock, but decided to go with the DNM Damping 3 System Mountain Bike Air Rear Shock instead. I wanted the ability to fine-tune the shock with air pressure one pound at a time if needed. I am very happy with it. Keep up the great videos!

[@RustyRoads]

Thanks!!

[@scrippslarry]

Air sounds like a lot of trouble actually. I think you need a specialized air shock pump.

[@stan121midling5]

yes, you nailed it mike, if your shock or shocks are so rigid, that it is like riding on no shocks, that can really hurt your back, so going to a shock that is less rigid is always best ok hehe

[@brucehanson4147]

NICE! Looks like that spring may be a touch soft yet. I'm 210 and even with all the pre-load out of the stock spring it's like riding a rock. This looks like a must-do!

[@RustyRoads]

Definitely improves the ride!!!

[@realitycheck4158]

That random shot of Rusty during the jam was hilarious and awesome. Looking at the slowmo side by side footage it's kinda surprising how much the 1000 actually traveled.

[@RustyRoads]

I agree considering I cpuld barely make it budge when I'd press down on the rear end of the bike! You know Rusty had to make an appearance lol!! Glad you enjoyed it! 🐾⚡

[@sreign1]

Thanks for the vids dude! I just swapped my old fox shock spring to the stock shock, very nice! Keep up the great vids!

[@RustyRoads]

That's a great upgrade OR 👋🏽👋🏽👋🏽👋🏽 Glad you enjoyed the video! 🤙🏽✊🏽✌🏽🐾

[@bobbydigital2475]

Great video! My 350lb shock will b here Monday and I'm gonna do exactly what you did! Much appreciated!! Rusty is great in the videos!! Thankyou!!

[@RustyRoads]

Thanks Bobby!! I hope you like the results!! He's a brat but yeah also a great kid ❤️ 🤙🏽✊🏽✌🏽🐾

[@stan121midling5]

@@RustyRoads yea, my dog is a brat too, but he is so loveable at the same time, my dog rocco is the same breed as rusty hehe

[@tonyholmes9024]

Thanks Mike! I just installed and rode up the street real quick. It feel at least a 30% smoother! Appreciate ya! Fyi brought a 550 shock

[@RustyRoads]

Nice !! Your butt will be so grateful on those long rides now !! 🤘🏽🐾

[@tonyholmes9024]

Yeah it will!!

[@Onlybhstrpes]

Cool vid. Is this Gaithersburg High School? They have a cool bass-pond to fish.

[@brucehanson4147]

Just for reference, how much do you weigh? ...just asking for a 210 lb friend...

[@tonyholmes9024]

GREAT VIDEO! Answered alot of my questions.

[@RustyRoads]

That's awesome to hear Tony !! Glad it was helpful !! 🤙🏽✊🏽✌🏽🐾

[@scrippslarry]

Great video! This is one of the most informative ones I have seen on this topic! Like one of your other commenters however my new bike is being shipped with the new air suspension and I will not be sure how to adjust that until I get it.

[@RustyRoads]

Hey Larry thanks !! I love how AR quickly implements customer feedback but it makes some of my videos obsolete 😅 Hopefully the new shocks don't need adjustment. In my opinion they don't, we just released a new video on that bike btw 🤘🏽 🐾

[@scrippslarry]

@@RustyRoads So glad to hear that! I ordered an DNM setup just in case. I definitely want to check out your new video on that topic! Thanks again! 🐾

[@MrMonro27]

I have the new air shock on my x52 and bought a 750lb spring for it. Would this still be a good upgrade to do with the air shock for a softer ride? Or does this new shock setup work better with the 1000lb spring? Thanks, glad someone mentioned this.

[@traefauntleroy2093]

Mike, AWESOME Vid. Very informative. I always wanted to see what non-stock shocks would look like on the X-Class. Good looking on the explanations. Mo. Co. For Life.👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾

[@RustyRoads]

Thanks Trae! Glad you found it helpful 🙏🏽 Moco is freezing right now lol 🐾⚡

[@traefauntleroy2093]

@@RustyRoads No Doubt. You're inspiring me to start up my e-bike KZbin channel. When I get back on the East Coast I'll have to hit you up for a ride. Thanks again fam.👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿

[@RustyRoads]

@@traefauntleroy2093 definitely hit us up!!

[@traefauntleroy2093]

@@RustyRoads Will Do. For Sure. 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾

[@traefauntleroy2093]

@@RustyRoads Stay Warm my Brother. Lol 👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿

[@noone9071]

Can't wait to see your Grizzly unbox. I had trouble installing the front wheel but man it's a whole different beast.

[@LesFishingMoreCatching]

Nice your rear shock actually works now. I’m trying to find softer rear shocks for my Grizzly also since I’m a light rider also.

[@RustyRoads]

We just got our grizzly and the shucks feel great! What issues are you having? 🤙🏽✊🏽✌🏽🐾

[@LesFishingMoreCatching]

@@RustyRoads def not as stiff as your x class was but was thinking maybe a slightly softer ride would be nice but I might just change the seat and that should help. I’m ~125lbs

[@Marvin-fn7ks]

Sorry for the long delay In connecting here . Last spring was our first experience with the 2 X52s and at 155 lb rider weight,the rear suspension was ….well ….not there. I ended up buying a fairly expensive air shock from Amazon but was nearly as disappointed. I did contact Ariel and the response was “they don’t offer any options for this. Honestly I think they have a great opportunity to offer these things as aftermarket without guys like you having to test . We are 95 % near or 100 % off-road. Thanks so much for to test and video! Please put a bug in their ear to offer some aftermarket items other than Racks….. otherwise they are great bikes !

[@RustyRoads]

Surprised you didn't use your transmorphic resonation field stabilizers !!!! 🤙🏽✊🏽✌🏽🐾

[@Marvin-fn7ks]

@@RustyRoads bummer ,it just doesn’t work in this atmosphere!

[@RustyRoads]

@@Marvin-fn7ks 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@riderx4039]

Great video thank you, was thinking about getting a new shock I might do this instead. ⚡️🖖🏽⚡️

[@RustyRoads]

It's definitely worth trying! A sneaky hack is you can put the original spring on the new shock and return it lol. I'm considering it 😅

[@o-townrider]

Excellent info and advice! Thank you! I am definitely doing this.

[@RustyRoads]

Thanks O town!! Glad you found it helpful 🙏🏽🐾

[@bengruber888]

Terrific video

[@RustyRoads]

Thank you! Glad you found it helpful 🐾

[@androsmilenionful]

I should got the spring only ,I didn't think about it.

[@zman2486]

I’m curious about the “walk mode.” Waking along side the bike. Or even a flight of stairs with a tiny bit of throttle for people with apartments and no elevator.

[@RustyRoads]

Definitely helpful in those cases 🙌🏽 Thanks for watching!! 🤙🏽✊🏽✌🏽🐾

[@youngjay914tv9]

can I tighten or loosen the rebound on the spring knob?

[@jpmyles1560]

What about the grizzly? Do the springs need changing on it?

[@fredaguirre684]

Hey Michael. Question: In your hardest riding did you experience any bottoming of the rear suspension at all. I'm 170-180 lbs and thinking about going to 450 lb spring for my X Class

[@snan9735]

Hey! Did u get better hours at work? Warms days are coming soon! Time to ride!

[@RustyRoads]

Hey Scott, can't wait !! We did kind of, now we work every other Saturday, and am off on Sundays. Hurry spring !!!

[@RustyRoads]

Hey Scott, can't wait !! We did kind of, now we work every other Saturday, and am off on Sundays. Hurry spring !!!

[@rconr007]

Thanks for sharing. Great video.

[@RustyRoads]

Thanks!! Glad you enjoyed it !! 🤙🏽✊🏽✌🏽🐾

[@kitesailor]

Would this spring replacement work with the air shock on the Step-Thru X-Class? I weigh 115 lbs and I need a really soft spring?

[@sn00p232]

@Rusty Roads hey bro, nice info on the coils. BTW, do you know if the Grizzly rear shocks is the same 165mm as the X52? I'm thinking of changing the rear shicks on the grizzly to the DNM, but I also wanted to lower the seat height a bit. Thanks in advance

[@RustyRoads]

Hey George, glad you enjoyed the video! The grizzly rear shocks are much longer than the Xclass, they look similar to what you'll find on an Onyx. I'm not sure what the exact measurement is however. 🤙🏽✊🏽✌🏽🐾

[@michaelperez372]

No the Grizzly has 260mm shocks, I've been racking my brain trying to find shocks or Springs, Good Luck!

[@ug9191]

Well done!

[@RustyRoads]

Thanks 52!! 🐾⚡

[@tepreach294]

Ohhh man this is suck a good idea. Will this work on the grizzly? I'm 165 +25 of lock and I found the rear shock is still so stiff.

[@lamontrenschler2465]

I think you should update your links. I bought the 350 pound spring and the spring isn't even close to being large enough. The stock absorber is easily twice as large as the one I received

[@RustyRoads]

Good call and sorry for the confusion. Did you get the step through x class or the high step? This video is specific to the high step and was released before the step through was announced. If so, I'll update the video description. Again, apologies and I hope you're able to get a refund 🐾🤘🏽

[@lamontrenschler2465]

@@RustyRoads its the high step

[@RustyRoads]

@@lamontrenschler2465Ahh. Yeah I need to update the description. The newer Xclasses (with turn signals) have an improved rear shock, as well as being attached closer to the front compared to the previous version. This results in a longer 230mm shock, but also addresses the previous complaint of the rear shock being too hard. The shock that came in yours is already the perfect spring rate imo, but you can get a softer one of you prefer, just make sure it's the same length as the spring on your shock. 🐾🤘🏽

[@dmcalignments8385]

Do you know if this one would work as well? I seen a link with this shock for a x-class upgrade and I just was ordering it.

[@mst3kpimp]

Dang I just tried to loosen my shock screws and it would not budge, I stopped for fear of stripping. I put some pb blaster on it hopefully that does something.

[@RustyRoads]

🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼

[@mst3kpimp]

@@RustyRoads update...it worked!

[@RustyRoads]

@@mst3kpimp 🙌🏽🐾

[@emaguigad]

Hey Rusty! what's your take on the quality of the grizzly? I've been reading on complaints about them from the BBB and majority is mostly on quality of the batteries and customer service that if there's quality issues with them such as electronic issues, they are not responsive on resolving them? I'm now hesitant on purchasing them just because of lack of customer service. It's not a good idea spending thousands and if you have a problem, I hear you're out of luck. What's your experience and advice on them?

[@thanhquach8776]

Thanks Rusty. Do you like the lower or taller handle bars on the X? Im 5’5 similar to your height so trying to see which bars would feel more comfortable and do you feel like you have more control with the lower bars. Thanks 👍

[@RustyRoads]

Hey Thanh, agreed!! I definitely prefer the lower bars as well!

[@andreea_nazare]

If I had to choose a 350-lb spring of size either 150 mm or 175 mm, which one would be better for a smoother ride? Thank you!

[@RustyRoads]

Depends on your height. If both are related for 350 lb, they should feel similar, although the taller spring will hav more travel. Cheers!

[@zman2486]

Have you measured the wheel to wheel length? Just curious what the total length is?

[@RustyRoads]

46" wheelbase arielrider.com/products/x-class-52v 🤙🏽✊🏽✌🏽🐾

[@ericechipman1183]

Thanks for a great video, if you don't mind me asking how much do you weigh? Also did it ever bottom out on any of the curbs you jumped off of? I'm definitely going to get one of these Springs but I can't decide if I want to 350 or the 450, considering I am 200 pounds

[@RustyRoads]

A 200-300lb buffer is necessary to avoid bottoming out. Also need to make sure you tighten the spring enough so it doesn't. I weigh 140 btw It's all in the video 🐻

[@swervedriver5260]

His weight is one of the first things he mentioned in the vid.

[@DavidZisa]

Great video, thanks! What is the length of the spring on the 165mm shock? If I were to buy just a spring, what length am I looking for?

[@nicowitdarx]

Thanks for a very awesome video, i’m getting a 350 lbs spring thanks to you but the only problem is that i’m not sure what size to get should i get 165mm or 190? Which size please and thank you!

[@RustyRoads]

The 165 matches the length of the stock shock. 190 will raise the back end and make the bike taller. Make sure to go with a spring that adds 200-300lbs to your weight 👍🏽 Thanks for watching!!

[@nicowitdarx]

@@RustyRoads Thank you so much!

[@nicowitdarx]

@@RustyRoads Hey also one more question are the tires tubeless and is there a video of someone installing better tubes

[@RustyRoads]

@@nicowitdarx They are not tubeless. There's tons of videos of folks installing Tannus liners, check those out They seem to work really well! 🐾

[@diehardknicksfansinceiwass2683]

Would this be the choice for me to commute to my job in Manhattan from the Bronx ? About an 11 mile commute.

[@RustyRoads]

Absolutely! It would be perfect for that commute! Use our link if you decide on an Ariel ! 🙏🏽🐾⚡

[@ibrahimadiallo7444]

Hey I just got my bike yesterday and it has a air adjustable rear suspension with a silver knob on the top part (unlike the red knob you have on the bottom). This mod is technically unnecessary for the newer X-Class right? Since it has a air adjustable suspension there isn't a need for this mod right? I'd like your expertise, let me know what you think?

[@RustyRoads]

Hey congrats! The new shocks also come with a softer spring I believe. If you're not happy with it just search online for a softer raters spring that is the same length 🐾⚡

[@escargoux]

im 155lbs, but sometimes i ride tandem so i am thinking of getting a 550lb spring, but not sure that will do much good for when i ride solo :'(

[@RustyRoads]

You'll still feel a difference going down from 1000lb to 550lb !!

[@KeithAVass]

Hi Michael I got myself a fat tyre folding bike recently which is no match for Ariel Riders but at least it has a 500w motor and wizzes me along at 40 plus kph.I do not like the tyres because they only go up to 20 PSI and this is not enough to prevent bottoming out over small bumps.So I see you are using Kenda tyres which I believe are run at 30psi? Why is it so hard to find good tyres for these bikes? They cost less than the Schwalbe 1.5 tyres I use on my recumbent trike! I see that You can now buy the generic brand of AR Grizzly on Alibaba but with a min order qty of 10 bikes with a approx cost of au$2000 each. Cheers!

[@RustyRoads]

That sounds like a great bike Keith!! I love folding bikes! The price of ebike tires is criminal!! Cheers!!

[@flowlow7]

Heyy i got my new X52V and when i charger the battery the charger makes some noise is that normal? I had other ebikes and they never made any noise it is kinda annoying and it kinda smells like burning cable when charging it

[@RustyRoads]

If it's a low buzz that's normal. They do get very warm so a new charger might have that odor the first couple of times Congrats on your new e-bike!!!! 🤙🏽✊🏽✌🏽🐾

[@flowlow7]

Its starts with a little buzz and then after it sounds like one of those electric tire pumps its pretty loud i got scared the first time i thought something was going to blow up the battery or the charger i was pretty scared lol because my other ebike the charger was very quiet

[@stan121midling5]

i got a question, on the Ariel rider grizzly, can we switch out the springs on the rear shocks ? and if so which shocks to get and how to change them out ?

[@RustyRoads]

Hey Stan, you can definitely switch out the springs on the Grizzly shocks. Since it has two rear shocks, you can remove one shock, replace the spring, put it back on, then repeat for the other side. Make sure the springs are close to, or the same length as the stock springs, and the combined spring rating should be at least double your weight. 🐾

[@stan121midling5]

@@RustyRoads oh ok, can i use the same springs you are showing on this video and would need to see how to change out the springs ok ?

[@stan121midling5]

@@RustyRoads yea i am like 203 lbs at 5'11 and right now on the grizzly, it sits a bit high for me, now i have the shinko 244's on the grizzy right now, but i will be changing them out to the Vee tire huntsman tires ok :0

[@RustyRoads]

@@stan121midling5 you'll need taller springs since the Grizzly shocks are much longer than the Xclass shock. Measure your springs and search for those. Another option is to replace the shocks altogether with some higher quality ones. Check associated FB groups, I'm sure you'll get some useful links. I never replaced my Grizzly shocks, and no longer have that bike

[@ricardoarcelay73]

Hi Michael is there any rear Damping shock you can recommend I own a 48v X-Class am 5'1 and am 138bls I have replaced the original rear shock to lower the bike for myself for my height but after watching your video would like to get one with a damper

[@RustyRoads]

Yo Philly!! This one has rebound adjustment and is shorter than the stock shock but it is pricey www.amazon.com/Keenso-Aluminium-Pressure-Suspensions-150mm650P/dp/B08HZ9D9K5/ref=mp_s_a_1_25?crid=29EBKN35XZ1QD&keywords=dnm+rear+shock&pscroll=1&qid=1643853433&sprefix=dnm%2Caps%2C90&sr=8-25&wIndexMainSlot=27

[@ricardoarcelay73]

Thanks bro just ordered it!

[@destinacecilia4422]

Yo brah i just got the new xclass with turn signals is the shock on the new version 230mm? I'm only 5'2 and wanted a shorter shock would the 125mm keenso spring shock work on the xclass?

[@RustyRoads]

Hey congrats! Correct the new Xclasses have a longer which because it’s angled more towards the front for a softer ride/more travel. Did you get the step thru or hi step? 🐾

[@syncranize4388]

Hello Rusty I’m considering buying this bike and wanted to know if I can ride this bike with 2 people considering our weight is over 340 together? And if a spring would help that or no?

[@nathegoer1501]

@Rusty Roads will this work on a V2 x-class?

[@RustyRoads]

Hi!! No need IMO. They fixed this issue with a longer shock, softer spring, and improved angle. I'm jealous;! ⚡🐾🤘🏽

[@EarthianZero]

I’m 120lbs - think I should get a 250lbs spring instead?

[@RustyRoads]

I'd go with the 350, you don't weigh much more than I do Cheers 🤙🏽✊🏽✌🏽🐾

[@RandyRides]

Need… more… cameras! 🤤

[@luckyguero1972]

Hi by the way I love your videos I was wondering if you could help me out please with my girlfriend riding with me and she does a lot of times be have a total weight of about 350 - 375 lbs. I want to get a different shock for the back or whatever I should get I'm not understanding what I should get for the weight it almost wants a bottom out it's most the time and I got it all tightened up and everything on the back if you can help me out and give me any suggestions or any links to Amazon's work and which one to buy I would look into it I really appreciate your time and helping me thank you again and I have the grizzly thank you

[@RustyRoads]

Hi Bobby thanks! Do you know what the spring rate is on the shock you have on your bike?

[@luckyguero1972]

@@RustyRoadsNo I don't how would I find that out?

[@RustyRoads]

@@luckyguero1972 it might be somewhere on the spring, if not, perhaps it's on the e-bike manufacturers website. If your bikes rear shock is this style then you could definitely get a smoother ride with the 650 spring

[@luckyguero1972]

@@RustyRoads ok thank you I have the Ariel Rider Grizzly

[@luckyguero1972]

@@RustyRoads I will definitely look into that 650 spring thank you

[@mst3kpimp]

cant you just buy the spring?

[@RustyRoads]

Definitely but I couldn't find that specific weight spring by itself without paying more in shipping so I just ordered what I used in this video. Thanks for watching!

[@smarc1325]

X cuse me... Hardtailer here fella.... 😅

[@realitycheck4158]

You know I love you guys, but I was literally getting dizzy with all the cuts. 🥴 * in the first batch of kitchen shots, rest was good

[@RustyRoads]

Lol that's great feedback! We're always learning 🙏🏽 🐾🤙🏽

[@androsmilenionful]

The spring is about 10 dollars

[@RustyRoads]

Nice, can you share a link?

[@androsmilenionful]

Taiwan EXA 290&291R and DNM DV-22&DV-22AR Scooter bicycle rear shock absorber special spring 30.4×120mm

[@androsmilenionful]

I got it from aliexpress, it's actually $25

[@androsmilenionful]

I don't know how to attach the link sorry

[@RustyRoads]

@@androsmilenionful pretty good deal. Thanks!

[@TheWelbeckTeam]

Send that red x-class 48v my way so I can add 3,000w motor on it.

[@RustyRoads]

Love it! Motor upgrades should include brake upgrades too !!!! 🐾

[@anacondahugs808]

🐍Was that cat tree for your tiny dog to reach human height, lol❓ 🖖🤙

[@RustyRoads]

Lol we have a chatty cat named Parrot 😅 🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍

[@theethnicist5678]

Hey, where did you get those dual head lights?

[@RustyRoads]

⚡️🐾🤘🏽 kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWGto5JmndFlrac