How To Get Brutal Low Screams & Growls w/ WILL RAMOS of Lorna Shore!

[@Phlfwlr]

I love this kind of stuff because people who don’t even like deathcore, or even any kind of screaming genre can see how it’s really just another way to express your voice musically.

[@chrisliepe]

YESSSS

[@urielfranciscofloreslozano5149]

I don’t like or listen that music but i like doing and learning these screams for fun

[@zichithefox4781]

No deal with a devil necessary!

[@MsDeathwish2]

Exactly. You can at least appreciate the effort that it takes.

[@seanpayne5643]

​@@zichithefox4781yo this! I am just baffled by the kinds of sounds we can make without even having to be possessed!

[@billyhughes9776]

Will is a freak in the best possible way -- I'm not really a huge fan of the genre but his abilities are just incredible. And he seems like an authentically good dude with a great personality.

[@FVT-tn8ji]

You are not really a fan of the genre *yet*

[@RollingDutchmann]

Me neither but he has such a likeable personality. The Charismatic Voice did many things with him that were such fun

[@sergeypitabelafa8741]

Exactly my conclusion from the vid.

[@cglukes]

Had the pleasure of meeting him at a bar in jersey...super chill dude, exactly as he comes across in these interviews and what not

[@pickledcottoncandy]

I agree 100%. Not a hige fan of the genre. Saw then a few weeks ago with mastodon and gonira. Few songs I like. He does have some great vocals. Awesome guttural. He does seem like an awesome dude.

[@tylertucker9460]

Can we take a minute to appreciate how much Will does for channels by coming on and talking about what he does. He’s just great at what he does and is a great human being in general. Edit: holy shit, this is the first time I’ve had a top comment, and 1.1k likes? That’s pretty cool, thank you guys!

[@iamdillyj]

Hes one of the first that ive seen who actually really seems to appreciate the position hes been put in and wants to repay the community by helping out with that he can. Most people in his position would charge for most of the things hes done like the camera down the throat video or this video. Also unfortunately this type of music doesn't seem to have many vocalist that seem to be as outgoing as will so we got lucky with how outgoing and appreciative he seems to be and also humble and not money hungry. Its the best combo we could've hoped for.

[@tylertucker9460]

@@iamdillyj that’s no fucking joke bro. The enthusiasm in his body language is undeniable. I’m so floored that I’m going to see him, and the rest of Lorna, in September. I hope to get a chance to meet him or something just to tell him how much his humility has been noticed, but we’ll see.

[@treato.3741]

@@iamdillyj phil bozeman used to make vids

[@nicolaisidek]

It's so rare pro vocalists doing this. Really appreciate it

[@dirtyneedles77]

Dude is a legend in the making.

[@electromusic4u]

I practiced a few years to growl without tension on my neck. Now I am using tongue and it made my growl more preetier and professional. Will Ramos is the most relaxed deathcore vocalist ever I seen.

[@jaripuurunen1742]

What!? Thank you for sharing that. I tried a different tongue position and just by bringing my tongue back and upwards I found a nice growl that I didn't know I had.

[@mdjadventures]

this is legit🔥

[@Klevaer]

I've been screaming for 13 years and it's crazy how I'm still learning new stuff. Wonderful video guys. 👏👏

[@Oryyyt]

same my man. I just can never be sure if i'm doing it right. I'm so happy when professionals explain their stuff

[@EBMproductions1]

2009 i started and sounded great practiced and recorded myself daily till 2011 where i got violently sick and spent years in hospital survived and didn't scream for 8 years and now i have been practicing on and off since 2021 but man its like being sick took away 90% of my former skills and it saddens me cause i could listen to a track and cover it near instantly or at least within a month of practice 😢😢 this is why Will really inspires me cause im sick again and i just like to appreciate the talent he and others exhibit in their music.

[@ptrekboxbreaks5198]

​@@EBMproductions1 I wish you all the best man

[@EBMproductions1]

@@ptrekboxbreaks5198 thanx man i greatly appreciate it.

[@StoriesOfSolitude]

Same, will Ramos is a beast lol

[@johnhurley4656]

There is a culturally significant movement happening here: the vocals of this music style are starting to create awe and curiosity in people. So now the technical skill of this is being investigated-which means it is respected, and not just by practitioners or fans-but it’s starting to catch the attention of the average person. This is really really good for metal! Look at the explosion of technical skill on all instruments and vocals lately… we are entering a great time to love metal.

[@mitchcallander2608]

I was thinking the exact same thing as I was watching this, the metal growl is becoming more accepted in the mainstream, back in ‘the day’ only hardcore metal heads couldn’t handle it. Exciting to see the progression.

[@Confusion7182]

I hadn't thought of it that way before. I don't sing or anything, but it's fascinating to watch people make weird noises and be nerdy and passionate about it.

[@corrob]

@icankillbugs it helps bring more attention and acceptability to more extreme forms of musicianship. more people who used to think metal was just power chords and talentless screams, now see that metal has complex structures, and the vocals are actually a skill and not just noise. musicians that are exceptional at their instrument are seeing that metal is the most diverse genre of music, be it a guitarist looking to challenge themselves, or even a full on classical strings musician can find a place in a symphonic black metal band. more people "getting it" means more future musicians in the genre, that would have never given metal a chance before.

[@corrob]

@icankillbugs not since Cannibal Corpse has there been a death metal band that has tickled the mainstream ears, and Lorna have created music which many, many, people that would have never given such an extreme form of music a chance, are listening, and liking, or at least understanding its real musicianship. that just helps the entire scope of the genre (metal)

[@corrob]

@icankillbugs just like Cannibal, Lorna has brought many new ears to an extreme metal style, which helps the entire scene, i just went to a Lorna Shore concert a couple weeks ago, im not in a huge city, and it was sold out, packed house, they are helping the scene grow by bringing in more people, that wouldnt have listened to such heavy music before. just like Cannibal Corpse did way back when.

[@Tim31NJ]

Bro, that cupping the ears thing is wild. I've never heard my voice like that. Will is a master of his craft, and it's so cool how willing he is to let people know how he does what he does.

[@fruchtbeavis]

Holy cow - finally a vocal coaching channel without blabla and just getting right into it. And even more important: no fear to try stuff with his voice. this is really motivating and liberating! Subscribed =)

[@chrisliepe]

So glad you're here and ready to experiment and experience with me :) ...Thanks for the sub!

[@JohnnyAllan-vj7sj]

Well I tried. I did it wrong, but I'm now a Mongolian throat singer

[@MetalAFBoi]

I love throat singing

[@YurtHive]

Dude same. I can do some screams but this one just fuckin stumps me

[@MetanoiaMystery]

@@YurtHivei’ve been doing screams for a little less then a year. maybe 8 months or so. This did stump me for a while as well but you’ll get it eventually I promise. It becomes 2nd nature after a while. Trust me you got it. Also. That mongolian throat singing effect your getting is caused by to much use of the throat. This is exactly what happened to me. Relax your throat a little and “pull away” and you’ll get your scream. Everything you’re doing is technically right. Just gotta relax more. Push more with the diaphragm.

[@YurtHive]

@@MetanoiaMystery sick! Makes me feel more confident. M shadows scream and the revs from A7X I can do pretty much flawlessly but it’s the more aggressive screams and growls and gutturals I think that really mess me up. I’ll definitely keep at it though thanks for the info brother!

[@MetanoiaMystery]

@@YurtHive Chris actually has a video called “How to do throat singing RIGHT” I think that video will be of great use to you. He shows how to transition from throat singing to a scream.

[@proghoster00]

Will is a man of the people

[@zachmcniff]

Not only is Will Ramos a great artist AND a great teacher, but what an all around nice and genuine dude

[@lewisstickley5142]

Just funny how deathcore and metalcore bands are low key the nicest people on music. Never heard of Will and Lorna Shore before but definitely gonna keep tabs on them now. What a legend 🤘🏻

[@thatguysalbbl3270]

​@lewisstickley5142 his teaching and talking through the process is awesome. I can listen to this and understand his process. But i think these growl and screams ruin the good music the band is making. Saw lorna shore on tuesday and the music was great, the vocals i tuned out, no care for them.

[@EcSoto]

I love when vocalists of different levels bounce off each other. It really shows the full spectrum of practice and progression

[@silaswintersguitar]

Youve had so many vocalists on here. Will is the first you can tell is just genuinely down to earth and has no ego about him. Hes the best.

[@FlicknBean]

Will is the most charismatic bro in deathcore🤘🏻

[@MistrzStalkier]

Chris hitting that 10:00 min mark perfectly with no ad placement. What a statement.

[@illninophanatik]

Just saw Lorna Shore in concert in New Orleans. Will's voice is immense!

[@chryswallace8892]

I was there too. I didn't expect it to be better than the recorded tracks. Definitely a great show

[@psychoslingers8732]

Chris always bringing that good content. Thanks for this, and for having Will on (and thank you Will for coming on).

[@andreimarasigan]

Now I know from this that Alex Terrible's screams are mostly without tongue. Thank you for explaining in detail, Will. Really one of the best in the field.

[@sevijane]

I’ve never seen such a talented person who is equally nice. I will watch anything and everything he puts out.

[@timhenson864]

I need a full singing course by Will RAMOS!！( I know there will be !)

[@chrisliepe]

YEP! For now… join the free course linked in the description. FULL course coming in JUNE

[@skooparoonie3202]

@@chrisliepe will there be a part of it for complete beginners? i want to learn but dont know how to start

[@chrisliepe]

@@skooparoonie3202 YES. There is a whole section of the full course for complete beginners!

[@colescroggins2896]

@@chrisliepe is there a price point you guys have in mind yet?

[@rhabeldibabeldi6812]

Just leaving a reply for further notice

[@melomaniac334]

Great video, Chris! Thanks for inviting Will to share some of his techniques. This is so cool for people wanting to learn how to do this properly as well as for fans who are interested to know, "how does he DO that?!" Big ups to Will for being so generous with his time and caring that people want this content when he could keep all his skills and techniques to himself, he chooses to share and help develop other talents for the scene. And as always, thank you Chris, for always providing us with your invaluable knowledge. Much appreciated!

[@colorsofautumn]

0:10 dude! What does my tongue need to do to create THAT sound! 🤣🤣

[@psychobetha]

i absolutely love that the 3 of you have gotten together for this. i followed both you and elizabeth before i was introduced to will through another reactor, TankTheTech, and he is the first harsh vocalist i ever actually enjoyed listening to. you all have opened my eyes and ears in different ways, so this collab is just magical to me 💜

[@frank5.3]

Such eloquence from both of these guys. I dismissed a lot of this metal and vocals thinking it was all post-processed. I was wrong, it's a crazy talent and skill. Cheers!! 🤘🤘🤘

[@RickVogel-me6vg]

Will is so humble. Bless him for not being bigger than he is and teaching all of us while gaining nothing in return.

[@danielclark1859]

Omg Chris can finally do the nasty noises like i never heard him do before We did it boys we made him into a monster

[@chrisliepe]

hehe... ya getting better and better! Thanks Will!

[@robinjansen8522]

I love how easy going these guys are, no secrets and nothing but love for the genre. Thanks Will, awesome guy

[@zichithefox4781]

I've been practicing vocals for seven years now and I learned there could be an entire new level to my techniques. Much apprecation and love!

[@standabovethecrowd4]

He seems like such a chill and informative dude. Such talent

[@loganmorris4273]

Step 1: learn Step 2: drive to the orphanage Step 3: *power*

[@jordangarza8877]

Will is such an awesome and genuine guy. Great vid guys.

[@hemlocke7359]

Been screaming for about 12 years and I’m still learning this stuff. Even just new approaches or different perspectives. My inner nerd is so happy with these types of videos.

[@hapyharyhard0n581]

everything Will touches is gold...

[@zorgofxi7543]

Yessss! Cupping your ear is super important. I’m 29 now, and I’ve been doing vocals since I was 15. Cupping my ear has vitally changed the range in which I’ve been able to produce. I’ve never seen anyone else do this technique.

[@Yoshida9092]

Yep..back then..when u cant afford an in ear monitor..it really help to know how much range your voice generated & control it..

[@EnvisionedBlindness]

Will is so technically knowledgeable in heavy vocals. Probably the best guy to have ever done it. Dudes dedicated to the craft

[@nachtelfirokese88]

Weil man irgendwo erstmal anfangen muss? Wie wäre es damit? Klar man könnte es machen wie in den Niederlande/Spanien und eine Duldungspolitik machen aber, das ist es dann auch nur Duldung und keine legalisierung!

[@LlorracTN]

This is exactly the video I needed. I started learning singing and screaming about 9 months ago, fry screaming was pretty easy to learn and practice but all the videos I saw on growling I never managed to understand exactly what people were doing. This is by far the best video on the subject I've seen and I think it'll really help me get into growling and learn how to practice it and make it my own. I hope you've got more videos planned with Will he's a monster of a vocalist.

[@jacobmayer8916]

I’ve been doing screams for 5 years now just figuring it as I go, but to hear it broken down to science is so much help! Can’t wait to check out the course!

[@yournerdforhire]

Yes yes yes! I’ve been trying to work more on my vocals but I’ve noticed the more I try the more I end up hurting myself. I’m going to be signing up for that warm up course now! This video was awesome and I love Will so much, he’s an incredible vocalist ❤️

[@nahimstr8]

Loved this! Thank you for touching on some basic yet extremely important things that many beginners have questions about but virtually are never touched upon!!!

[@dynamicphotography_]

Will is one of the most "PROFESSIONAL" metal vocalists I've ever seen.

[@MetalMonster313]

I've been screaming for almost 11 years and I'm still learning! Thanks for the video!

[@tiamarie7443]

Will honestly should win nicest musician of year award. Every single video I watch with him makes me smile. He's seems so genuine!!

[@plaguedoctor5657]

This is amazing. I was screaming along with Will in my garage ahahaha. Seriously tho I love how you’re giving people insight into this style of metal. It’s needed

[@6hypnone]

I loooove when Vocalists vary their frequencies and tones. Not arbitrarily but matching what the song and/or lyrics require. The 1st time I heard a good example of this was Peter Tagtgrens vocals in Bloodbath, Nightmares made Flesh. As he also mixed in these ascending and descending piercing screams along w the varied growls. Highly recommend.

[@human6310]

Chris, these guest appearances mean everything. Keep it up!

[@TheJML1975]

Fantastic video and Will, seems such a great guy! His enthusiasm, is amazing! 🤩

[@AfroRedMusic]

Yeah man! I'm also steppin into my extreme vocal journey, love this for you Chris!! Will is a beast and a chill dude, same with you! Stay up yall ❤‍🔥

[@tobetb]

how much of a legend is Will!!

[@nickkduhh]

I love wills energy and how funny he is 🤘🏼

[@MauricioMX-s1x]

That Will Ramos course is fire!!! Thank you guys so much for creating it!

[@Hatredspeaks]

Lorna shore just has one of the most coolest edgiest vocals tbh, I can’t really see myself being that talented when trying it out for myself lol but it’s really interesting how other vocalists in deathcore bands are able to create they’re own unique tone too. 🖤🤘🏽

[@frankunodostres473]

aaaaah it finally happened! :D I can tell how much fun this must've been for both of you^^

[@berserker2740]

And a huge thank you to Will Ramos... just love him and how he said, i quit growl like 4 years ago and now im trying them again, it is a hobby but love it ❤❤❤

[@calebevans3690]

This is probably the only vocal course im ever going to end up paying for. ive been trying to learn screams for 6 years and haven't figured it out. If Will cant point me in the right direction, i dont think anyone can

[@MANGRINDER_band_]

I had the same problem for 2-3 years. And suddenly one day out of nowhere I figured it out. It sounded like shit at first but now I have a very solid fry scream. The problem is I can barely sing through an entire song because my voice wears out. I suggest trying to learn fry. The way I do it is tightening my abdominal muscles and really constricting my throat (without pain) and then pushing air combined with head voice through that and that's how I get distortion.

[@calebevans3690]

@@MANGRINDER_band_ i can sing for an hour half plus in the car no problem. The issue is i dont Figur it out without hurting my throat

[@bradleyjohnson3237]

Man…. I feel like I’ve been studying vocals and technique for over 30+ years….. NOTHING has been more valuable than cupping your ear…….. I feel like I’ve finally found the missing link and it’s 100000% thanks to Will!! Thank you so much for FINALLY helping me solve this decades long puzzle!

[@burritogod59]

Really glad he mentioned how to alter the sounds for song variation. I have heard too many metal bands recently, even in live concerts, have every song sound exactly the same due to the singer only doing one type of scream.

[@AramisMerlin]

Good stuff as always! Thank you Chris and Will!

[@edstrazz2758]

Fantastic voice and enthusiastic way of interpreting what he is doing 🙏

[@edshanks2189]

Very interesting! Thanks for the great content! Collabs like this are always entertaining.

[@Pokebrokey]

Can we all take a minute to appreciate how whenever Will looks at you or the camera his head leans to his right and he has a "would you look at that" expression?

[@WilliamStotts2092]

Thank both of you for making this video!

[@Fenthule]

WOW! As a home enthusiast musician who's only just getting to the point of wanting to actually produce music, I've gotta say that open cup thing Will does is incredible. Even just in the last 10 minutes or so I can definitely see what he means regarding your muscles learning what makes the sound you're after with the live feedback. What absolutely incredible advice. And thankfully I already signed up for the warmups as well so between it and the one from Spencer, My confidence in being able to put out some solid work is steadily rising. Man I'm soo hyped for the future. Thank you for this.

[@itsirishoneil]

I've been doing harsh vocals for like 10 years and these warmup videos were actually awesome. The straw techniques Will does really let you feel the diaphram

[@itsirishoneil]

I'm curious if there is any difference in warm up for the high harsh screams as opposed to lows

[@JS-mn1ck]

Hey Chris, cool collab, seeing lots of Will around today. Very cool seeing you learn as you go!

[@khyletoomey6708]

I know how to scream, but I didn’t know the hand trick for the instant feedback that is absolute gold! Super valuable tool. I love how simple will made this, it is simple and instinctive and over doing things leads to people missing the core parts of what they’re doing, really appreciate the honesty and sensible way you demonstrated everything.

[@Dissolved_Salt]

Gonna see this awesome guy live in about 60 days, im so freakin hyped!!!

[@ariennacastro4826]

I saw LornaShore open for Gojira and Mastodon on 4/20 in Concord. I didn't think i would enjoy it, but Will's energy and talent blew me away. Ever since that concert i have been OBSESSED and watching everything with Will in it. Not only is his skills impressive, but he seems so down to earth and charismatic.

[@jimijames27]

Will seems like such a friendly guy.

[@leahoplinger9771]

I just love seeing videos like this because to non-metal heads can see how it’s not “just screaming” there’s so much more to it.

[@StoneCompassMedia]

I've watched a variety of extreme vocal videos from a variety of creators and I have to say seeing it in a more conversational format helps the understanding so much more than just assuming something about technique

[@chrisliepe]

Awesome! This is great to hear! The whole course is this way... only with three of us :) !!

[@StoneCompassMedia]

@@chrisliepe looking forward to it. Keep up the good work, seeing you all come together is epic 🤘

[@vierdo]

Aww so heart warming to see this.. Thanks a lot for sharing everything like this.. Will Ramos is wonderfull and so are you,. Keep up the good stuff.

[@anthonydaugherty3312]

Fantastic content, you guys make it extremely easy to understand. I remember years ago when I first started learning how hard it was to find good info on this subject unless you ordered Melissa Crosses' DVDs or something lol so again, bravo for being the helping hand that you are today from all of us learners to you

[@nathanlempar4283]

Thank you guys for even more free content! Amazing stuff

[@AverageBMWenjoyer05]

Will just kinda stares into ones soul but hes a great guy i really like him and how he helps his community in achieving their goals as with this tutorial

[@kevinodinson]

Will that cupping ur ear trick has single handedly been the best piece of advice I've ever heard. It has completely changed everything lol

[@Fredrik-Makes]

Awsome! Thank you both so much for awsome content, teachings and beeing chill dudes!

[@91stinger]

This man's a legend!

[@JaneDoe-zo4pf]

Loved this, Will you are inspirational! Voice of and angel

[@DwayneDelacruz202]

This is fuckin amazing, it's always badass seeing and hearing Will mess with his screams with such ease and I love how he explains things 🤘🏼.

[@GurpreetSGulati]

luvvit. this guys a legend for me already. love the band too!

[@lady_caridina]

Hey Chris, I have taken most of your courses and they have helped me on my vocal journey more than anything else. I really appreciate the work you do 😊

[@Jonathan-A.C.]

Chris and Will are both really great vocalists, and I'd say even better ambassadors of open-minded singing

[@natemurphy612]

It’s great seeing one of the metal GOATS showing people how to truly scream and not damage their shit. I’ve been practicing for like 8 years and didn’t have it fully until watching will

[@arcakurtulus4911]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO you interviewed all my fave vocalists... only Courtney LaPlante and Vessel left

[@HuginnTheNord]

YES I LOVE COURTNEY

[@CloudFuel]

Absolutely loved EVERYTHING about this video!

[@ckokomo808]

As an elite athlete, I’m always looking for how things might apply across discipline. The idea of really warming up makes a lot of sense to me. Runners who are new just tend to go out and run. In reality you need at least a little warmup to make sure your muscles are ready to go! Similar to what Will was saying. There’s also a balance between pushing too hard and not pushing enough. Too hard and your injured. Not hard enough and you don’t get results- again, similar to what Will was saying. Lastly, I love all the nuanced movements and placements to give a bit of diversity in the mix. Just like running- when you know how to move well (doing drills) you can love differently on different terrain to make things easier/harder. I also love Chris, your enthusiasm and willingness to be a student. So cool!! I’ll be signing up as I’m slowly dipping into metal vocals. Thanks for teaching Will and Chris!

[@HandofGod440]

Absolutely fantastic video, that had to be a blast of an interview.

[@ItsParadise304]

The cupping of the ear reminds me of how a dj has the second channel that he’s going to switch to going in one ear and listening to the set without a headphone in the other ear. They’re using 1 headphone to prep the next track and they’re using the other ear to hear exactly what the audience is getting in the moment

[@Falanu]

I think the tongue is basically enhancing overtones basically making it sound like two screams. It doubles up and gets so phat instead of one voice trying to add distortion

[@jochanncholland5927]

Actually it IS two screams. Will is able to layer fry and false chord screams over each other, that creates that higher tone coming in the more he constricts. Called hybrid screaming

[@Falanu]

@@jochanncholland5927 that's AWESOME! that makes sense. I can throat sing so that is next on my list to learn 🧑🏽‍🎤

[@Dilldough.]

I don’t think I can even begin to comprehend how DIFFICULT it is to do an hour long show, switching from highs and lows, to all these other techniques. I wonder if it feels like a full upper body workout after a show for Will?

[@chrisliepe]

Practice makes possible. :) it’s amazing how effortless it looks when will is doing all of this, especially over longer periods of time. He’s quick to point out that he is where is because of consistent practice!

[@garretts431]

So like every other deathcore vocalist? Lmao.

[@LiveAndDie85]

​@@garretts431definetly not every other deathcore vocalist. Sure Will is not the only great vocalist. But there are plenty that arent that good.

[@elilewis8212]

Will does some of the craziest shit with his voice. Absolutely amazing.

[@lisajohnson521]

I don't want to growl, I just like watching you fellas do it LOLOL. This was really fun!

[@larryb95]

I'm 47 yrs old and been trying to learn this forever....oddly stumbled on this ....love it

[@ChiKhami]

Incredibly valuable content. Thanks to you both!

[@Agrez_draca]

I am an independent Mexican vocalist, your video helped me a lot to see the difference of using the language and taking advantage of my vocal range, thank you both very much, I subscribe

[@amneenja5720]

Will Ramos is a great guy saw Lorna Shore live at Download23, and then during Parkway's set I ended up fist bumping the whole band. what a guy.

[@hash_slngn_slshr-_-834]

I remember watching A wake in Providence live and will has just gotten so much better since then. Was good then, but even better now

[@hgbbccchcccvvb8226]

Will ramos is just a gift from higher powers for everyone who watches this sort of content.

[@jackburtoncantsavelopan]

This dude is the king of brutal vocals. Super versatile and filthy at the same time.

[@joshdrumheller4920]

I love how people say this isn't singing.....it's as hard to learn to sing this way as it is to sing any other style of vocals.