How to Give an Astrological Consultation

Discussing how to give an astrological consultation, and some considerations surrounding reading birth charts for clients, with astrologers Isa Nakazawa and Chris Brennan.
Isa is the host of a new astrology podcast called Stars and Stars with Isa, where she interviews different celebrities and notable figures and reads their birth chart.
In this episode we delve into the intricacies of giving an astrological consultation, discussing the transition from studying astrology to practicing it professionally.
Isa shares insights from her own journey, highlighting the importance of preparation and presence during consultations. We explored how her background as an arts educator influenced her approach, emphasizing the educational aspect of astrological consultations.
We also discuss the dynamics of client interactions, the importance of understanding a client's background in astrology, and how to tailor consultations to meet their needs. Isa stresses the value of creating a collaborative environment where clients are encouraged to engage with their charts actively.
Additionally, we touched on the practical aspects of professional astrology, such as setting boundaries, handling payments, and the impact of online consultations versus in-person sessions.
Overall, the episode provides a comprehensive guide for aspiring astrologers on how to approach professional readings, emphasizing the importance of ethical practice and client-centered consultations.
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Timestamps
00:00:00 Intro
00:02:24 Isa Nakazawa's background
00:07:30 Importance of seeing clients
00:11:45 How to prepare for a consultation
00:13:59 How Chris started out
00:17:11 Length of a consultation
00:20:13 Setting fees and promotion
00:27:42 Isa's natal chart
00:29:20 Isa's steps of reading a chart
00:36:29 Spectrum of different clients
00:38:43 Importance of context and building trust
00:42:58 First do no harm
00:49:23 Delineating placements
00:53:49 Clients who don't have an astrology background
00:56:67 What to establish with clients ahead of time
00:58:57 Birth times and Rectification
01:10:25 Interpreting a chart
01:24:36 Younger vs. older clients
01:29:29 How to talk about challenging placements
01:34:14 Synastry of family members
01:38:00 What if the client doesn't resonate with a delineation?
01:45:38 Wide variety of astrologers
01:47:27 Accountability, certification, standardization
01:56:29 Students putting off consultations for too long
02:01:42 Energy for consultations
02:04:24 Setting boundaries
02:06:25 Client confidentiality
02:09:14 Post-materials for clients
02:13:06 Isa's podcast
02:18:27 Closing credits

[@mr.baumguard]

When I started giving readings i was working in the leisure area of a rehab hospital. The patients all were in a state of being open to change for the better and did all those group sessions, and therapy etc.. All those circumstances made it come very natural to do the readings. I could start doing it for free until the value of it became obvious. It was a great time.

[@kyleerhard9284]

That is a pretty awesome way to learn and develop your own abilities while helping others.

[@kyleerhard9284]

I can totally relate to spending 4 days writing page after page while charging next to nothing 😂 I bet many of us start out that way

[@brandywilliams5277]

I feel seen, normalized and humanized!! Coming from 40 page reports and 7 days, and starting even when I didn't feel good enough! I love this episode so much!!

[@nataliedigiovanni4863]

Chris you are seriously so articulate it’s unreal. Such a strong command of the English language and skill at putting your thoughts to words. I have studied astrology for 15 years and I cant talk about it. I can only look and know. :(

[@hopepantazis4508]

Can’t wait to checkout Isa’s podcast! Awesome, articulate young woman. Love her accountability to self and to her audience. Stay humble.

[@ailishfarragher5994]

As a 4th year commited amateur practitioner (2 years formal study with Nightlight Astrology and The School of The Astrology Podcast and lifelong dabbler), I charge a small fee and/or exchange (lunch, reflexology session, a cake) and that has taken some pressure off (Scorpio Stellium!), manages expectations, and finding out the best approach and presentation for in-person consultations or over Zoom.

[@cancercapguidance]

I love trades!!! A good friend of mine designed all my branding materials for my astrology business so I gave her a birth chart / current transit reading in exchange. Very beneficial to both parties!

[@Junenomad]

Love that Isa uses her hands a lot when she speaks.

[@Discrete1998]

Don’t forget to give this video a like if you heard a piece of valuable information ❤ it’s well earned

[@mantrehatashband3884]

This podcast resonated SO much! I also love that Isa took the host role sometimes and asked Chris questions too. It was nice to hear both perspectives.

[@lotusphoenix8]

Absolutely, it felt really comfortable

[@jemerrific]

100% feel seen on so many levels. Isa’s vulnerable honesty was really refreshing too.

[@Its-Lulu]

I love how Chris said the onus is on the client to find the astrologer who best suits their preferences in terms of house system and zodiac. It really helps set the expectation to be closer to what the client seeks from a consultation and receives from the consultation.

[@startongue_astrology]

This is perfect timing for me as I step into the realm of readings and all the feelings that come with these baby steps.

[@cancercapguidance]

Let's go!! Good luck on your journey

[@CombustAstrology]

I absolutely adore the level of professionalism this video brings, thank you Isa & Chris!

[@jem2250]

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS GUEST WHO IS SO ARTICULATE . IT IS SO AFFIRMING TO HEAR ISA SAY WHAT I HAVE ALWAYS FELT. BRAVA TO HER.

[@andykatewalsh]

This has been SO informative. Isa is a great speaker. I’ll watch this a few times!

[@earhustler2639]

I am just a few minutes into the video. Thank you for clarifying how to determine a night/day chart. When you mentioned that her son was 7° below the descendant, this gave me more insight on how to determine a day chart from a night chart. Thank you!

[@Kate-hh8yi]

🌬 Isa, I appreciate the way you have labeled each episode with your clients' Sun, Moon, and rising sign. 😊 I'm excited to dive in. *update* for those who pursue listening to 'Stars and Stars with Isa'. The zodiacal framework utilized for reference is known as 'alphabet astrology'. Forgive me if my wording is inaccurate, I'm not entirely familiar with this teaching. And a big thank you to the dearest clients of Isa. To share the reading of your birth chart through such a public and vulnerable platform is a graceful gift to all of us. 💜

[@cancercapguidance]

This episode was so inspiring! "It's actually through commitment that we home where we sit in our position, and that's needed right now" - love this! (As saturn squares my natal venus during my Venus return & Jupiter transit). I just enrolled in Chris's Hellenistic Astrology course and I'm so excited to dive deeper into my learning journey that I started informally 5 years ago. I've been doing consultations with friends & acquaintances intermittently for 2 or 3 years now and I'm struggling to transition into taking in clients I don't know and charge money for it on a regular basis. I have a lot of the foundation and pieces in place to start a consulting business but my main problem is how to find clients (other than running ads on social media). I've told my friend clients to tell their friends but it hasn't resulted in new clients. Thanks for your monolithic contributions to the astrology community Chris, you've inspired and taught more people than you know.

[@TheAstrologyPodcast]

Awesome, I look forward to working with you!

[@LaDeeDah]

It's so funny with the Aquarius because most of the people my boyfriend sneered at has Aquarius placements and he never knew he was aqua moon ascendant and Uranus in the first 😂

[@LaDeeDah]

I was resonating with everything she said and when you showed her chart I was like ah that's why haha mars in Aquarius Taurus rising, 8th and 7th house scorpio and sag. My skincare consultations are very specific and personalized. I encourage clients to share how I can make them more comfortable, as in cold or touch sensitivity, quiet or talking appt. I have Chiron in my Taurus ascendant and I have pretty significant sensory issues, so I always aim to make ALL five senses a pleasant experience when they see me

[@lotusphoenix8]

What a great topic! Can't wait to dive in!

[@daneckabargas6690]

Wonderfully informative video as always. This is my go to channel for all things astrology

[@CharlotteBrown-bh1cd]

Taurus wants to ask....how and when do you state out loud your fee to a client. Verbatim. Thanks, you are brilliant.

[@lucasgundi]

You're awesome Chris

[@elizabethsavage5549]

Wow 🤩 as a baby Astrologer just starting out with giving professional readings, this podcast is incredible 🎉 thank you thank you thank you 🙏🏽 I love how you both are so honest and relevant… and humbling to know we all started out similarly with the pages 😂 no surprises I’m just discovering these podcasts right as Jupiter in Gem in turning Pluto in Aqua.. second house ♊️ with Aqua MC ♒️

[@slogurtyogurt]

I really enjoy Isa’s energy and insight. Thanks for having them on!

[@WendiC]

So helpful

[@anniehamlett8761]

Thank you, Chris and Isa.

[@judemcdougall9504]

Thank you Chris & Isa. I have enjoyed this whole episode.

[@damaryspinzon3987]

Appreciate your sincerity so much!! Thank you both!! ❤

[@tbaduk]

Thank you for this episode! It was so helpful ❤

[@whereisnopc]

this is so helpful! thank you!

[@angelinainblue]

This is amazing! thankyou guys so much! I love transparency and this is really just a gem. Tahnkyou so much again, really a relief to hear your take of the journey Chris and Isa

[@maureenbyrne8951]

Thank you Chris and Isa ❤❤

[@ivanantich440]

Perfect timing for me!!! Thank you!!! 🙏🏻

[@motokosarmor]

sag in the 8th is so astrologer coded!! love her chart

[@mlouw8218]

Thank you both so much! This was a really interesting and enjoyable discussion and I’ll definitely be checking out Isa’s podcast. It’s also got me thinking on how to get the most out of a reading as the client or querent… what questions to ask and how to make the most out of a reading afterwards.

[@Jessicarodriguez-lk1nb]

Wow i really enjoyed this episode

[@hi6911]

Love this , very valuable info in this vid…..wonderful easy natural flow of conversation between both of you ( not always seen with some of the guests even though they are always interesting to listen to 😉)

[@Silvertestrun]

Thank you!

[@marrobbart6093]

Very nice interview! I use the framework outlined in Tracy Marks' book about chart synthesis, she outlines how to prioritize what is found in a birth chart. I'd love to see you interview her, Chris!

[@andykatewalsh]

I love this reco, thanks for naming a good book to check out!

[@t8sh]

🙏🙏🙏 Such a great episode!!

[@happiness6488]

She's great!!

[@mir-ww8gx]

This one's for me!

[@jem2250]

Me too - I refuse to do any more written reports. Days is prep and then all the typing up etc. I came at t his late in life after studying for years, so I will never get to the point where it is cost effective for me to do a consultation. Hard for me to keep things simpler and not say everything I see. My favortie way to read is off the cuff and not for money. Far more relaxing for me. But I always say - you have to give me something - if it is just lunch.

[@paularitacosta]

Love the topic 🎉

[@melindareavell9357]

1:43:23 I really felt this, thank you for saying exactly how I feel about Chris and the Astrology Podcast ❤

[@Lisa-sq3zl]

This is super helpful. 🙏

[@StarBeezWorld]

Thank you 😊

[@SherryBradley-dl3pi]

thank you

[@seerguru]

Your guest is adorable 🥰 cute , great energy ! Great show 😊

[@SherryBradley-dl3pi]

i resonate deeply with vedic whole sign and placidus systems, even though the charts to totally different. My western charts is quite dark, plutonian and my vedic is significantly lighter and more lovely. I'm so glad I read into the vedic.

[@robynbetts6882]

Thank you..I really appreciate this podcast as a scorpio stellium student of astrology myself. I feel compelled to research astrology, its my happy place. However the ruler of my scorpio sun, mercury, jupiter and neptune being mars is in the 12th house as is my aries moon ruler and so I hear you regarding the self sabotage about putting yourself out there as an astrologer!..gotta do it!!

[@juli.a.strology]

i used to work on a tv show where my job was pretty chill and i would mostly read and i would read astrology books and started an astrology ig page and read people's charts for free where i would just type up a little summary on my notes app and screenshot it and post it as a carousel and i would do it for free because i was already getting paid bc i was doing it at work. i also sat down with my coworkers and read their charts and had multiple people say like "i don't believe in astrology but that makes a lot of sense" and my first paid reading was for my friend who wrote a book of astrology poems called Sex Is From Mars But I Love You From Venus and i bought 2 copies of her book for $9.99 so i just had her pay $20 for the reading so we were even but one thing that i think is funny is when i gave free readings i'd have people say "you should charge for this" and i would always think like why say that you could just pay me like a tip or something but yeah it made me feel awkward like should i be like actually... heres my venmo haha

[@CreativeSoul333]

Very cool!

[@hollylamarche7194]

Same concept for nursing. We learn all the book work. The real experience cones when you apply all that you learned to the patients. You gain all your experience when you start nursing job.

[@brandeedavidson9163]

These were insightful meanings of the zoidia. I'd love to know where I could learn more about this. Specific books, blogs etc?

[@jocelineelaine1244]

Definitely had my my skepticism but after studying advanced astrology I can't deny that it works, lm still blown away even now on the daily how accurate it is. I hope I can feel confident one day to do professional consultations, because I'm a cap🌞aqua🌙 scorp rising I feel like i need to know everything first but that's impossible and I know this, thank you soo much for this video it helps a lot.

[@iridescentaquarian]

I'm aqua/cap/Scorpio rising and I feel the exact same! Struggling with perfectionism and self-criticism in my capability to answer clients questions

[@shadowscientia]

I do live natal chart readings in some events like one that has happened in a sound healing festival here in the Philippines.

[@TroyMGonsalves]

First!

[@user-lj4mn8nn3f]

It's a skill, to interpret a chart, that's not the spiritual component. Charge for skills. Especially ones that can help transform someones life. How is it different than a skilled therapist charging 180+ per hours. Isnt Healing in and of itself Spritual, thanks to Chiron: ) Why should it matter how it happens.

[@RomasKalash]

Healing is largely a physical-emotional process. Spiritual pertains to Spirit, so no.

[@VictoriaTarot888]

What software gives this type of chart thank you

[@hunterr.villagawboy8098]

Saggitarians as “party hermits”, love.

[@user-rx4cy6rs1d]

I've a Cancerian friend with an Aquarius moon and sun conjunct Uranus in the first who refuses completely her Uranian nature and will only see herself through the positive Cancerian qualities. Her Aquarian nature is so obvious to me as her friend.

[@starlumpy]

I’m still navigating my shame around being interested in astrology. No one in my life even knows I like it and I’m afraid to let anyone know because it’s seen as something that only delusional people believe.

[@aysenuri2419]

People just want free readings. It hurts me a bit. They don’t treat it seriously despite it taking time to analyze etc. They sort of want it for free and at times in personal relationships I’m forced and pressured to read multiple charts

[@cf7697]

Isa is an exceptional communicator, but this studennt novice couldn't see that super-strength in her chart. Ruler of the 3rd house ef comms in Cancer projects a moon in Scorpio? Sign of pysychology/incisive investigation? I'm learning, where do others see where her comms skills present themselves? The nature of her brand of delivery (myth, spirituality etc) ?

[@mysticgardener2704]

Oh the stories we could tell😅

[@yohannestesfaldet]

Scorpios are sexy, loyal, intense detectives (squinty eyed eagles). Isa is a an Aries moon (Athletic, competitive, independent, larger heads and Straight eyebrows ♈. She is Taurus rising (fashionista, strong voice, broad shoulders, beautiful, teenage-like)

[@kyraayls]

As a Sag rising I can relate to Party Hermit 😂

[@JK999]

Timestamps pls..

[@user-lj4mn8nn3f]

ive paid nearly 700 for three readings over the last few years , all by zoom and got absoluteluy nothing in writing, just a copy of the zoom video.

[@TwoGrainsOfGold]

58:30 @Isa - I provide rectification services and am in the Bay Area. How do I connect 1:1 with you so you can consider/vet me. I am only midway through so perhaps you have shared this info at the end 🙏🏼 Take care Excellent episode Chris 👍