The Orphic Mysteries and Ancient Astrology

[@cristicion3333]

This was such a lovely conversation. I feel like I’m living in the Golden Age listening to you all. Thank you!

[@TaurusVenus]

As someone who recites Orphic hymns daily, and who is studying ancient astrology AND ancient Greek (with a focus on the hymns with my Greek tutor), I couldn't be more excited for this conversation! 🙏🌟

[@katiekatsaropoulos620]

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[@JSBallard]

This is fantastic. More of this please.

[@ClaimedParadise]

Love seeing an iconic graduate from the Haus of Coppock love both of these occult icons

[@ClaimedParadise]

WE NEED AN UPDATED MAGIC POD

[@ElizaEtoile]

The cool glass of water my soul needed today..truly profound and inspirational 🥹🤍💙🤍 thank you all so much for this episode!

[@Grace-lw4hd]

This was an amazing episode! I’ve listened to it twice - 💕💕💕💕💕💕fantastic ! I can’t wait to dig deeper! Thank you so much Chris and to both of your extremely knowledgeable guests! 💕💕💕👍💕💕

[@adamthomasadamthomas]

Very excited for Kristin’s full translation and commentary! And looking forward to the forthcoming publication. So much great insight in this episode. Looking forward to deep dive into defining orphism!

[@alvarocastroastrologo]

I just loved how the three of you just lovingly resonated and constructed meaning for this episode at such a wild and ancient them, in such an inspiring and devoting fashion. I've been reading and feeling the Orphic hymns recently, and this just expands the calling so thank you all!

[@SueB.-ky9gr]

Wisdom lineage ,thankyou everyone this was pure brilliance 🙏

[@alabaster2163]

The gods are energetic signatures to envoke to achieve ones goals... highest good of all of course. 😘 Thank you for doing this... its just fantastic that this is coming into more modern main stream conversations.

[@juliaanadam7762]

What a beautiful episode

[@leviashanken2506]

Thank you, Kristen, Drew, and Chris - very awesome!

[@asdfghjklbb]

i love the dice metaphor tysm

[@CatepillarChrysalisButterfly]

This interview is pure gold. 🙏

[@marcion6049]

Amazing! So deep and clear vision of ancient understanding of cosmos and soul.

[@judemcdougall9504]

Thanks Chris, Kristen & Drew

[@ghellag]

Another exciting episode, thank you, Chris for the devoted work as usual. Hi from the lands of Thracia, hi from Bulgaria. There are seeds already here, especially from your work, Chris, that we are trying to plant neatly and grow again for Hellenistic astrology. As well as in Greece, in Bulgaria are some of the very special places and artifacts that are interesting to be seen.

[@healersspeak3362]

Congratulations! Finally to the beginning. Thank you 🙏🏽

[@lynnmcmvt1815]

Excellent!! So glad you covered this topic.

[@lyndaweston]

Possibly my all time favourite confab. I would just like to bring up one possibility for the seven layers pre-spheres of planets. In several Indigenous cultures including Australian aboriginals the seven spheres first appear as the seven colours of a rainbow. All distinct but of the same. And obviously of a time period far, far away in time from the period you're exploring. Through the same 'trick' of light refraction the same colours can be seen in water and snake skins, inside shells etc. connecting sky and earth in the all.

[@aurissolaris]

What an extraordinary episode!

[@BoLuko-w7h]

I am a big fan of their ability to make such an abstract concept understood over a long explanation. The sides of a dye’s relation to the hymns was great.

[@OKEAHKPACA-pd1gl]

I LOVE listening to this channel. Thanks!

[@healersspeak3362]

Oh Chris, i really appreciate your work and your guests work. But i am telling you that i would love to read the Orphic hymns. I am a Greek astrologer and i was wondering when ine would do an episode like this. I do believe as s Native is worth looking at my suggestion. The Spirit and intonation “would be happy “. Euxaristo!

[@amberford6892]

I want Kristin and Drew to read me to sleep every night lol

[@leviashanken2506]

@1:06 Valens' Orphic quotes. @1:34 Orphic hymn to the stars

[@ΔήμοςΜετεώρων]

I love the planetary Orphic hymns which are adressed to the Theoi. Later in time Suhrawardi wrote hymns to the planets though his hymns tend to be more monotheistic.

[@princessedelarue1989]

I loved this episode so much! Learned a lot, will be re-listening for sure.

[@a4terart322]

This is a good one! 1.5 hours in so interesting and I will be looking up these guests ❤

[@ambermaypine5458]

Excellent fascinating video thank you

[@wanderingsoulenterprises5564]

So interesting- thank you!

[@alisonbarrett163]

This is one of my all time favorite episodes. Thank you all so much!

[@cynthiacornell1718]

It's fun to revisit topics of study from 30 years ago - so delighted!

[@KathleenLarsonStargazer]

So beautiful and love love love the love balm or love bomb reference. It absolutely spoke to my heart on top of all the other beautifully meaningful references to the ancient ways of invoking the Divine in connection with the Orphic hymns and the art of astrology. That said, love you and your work, all of you, so many thanks.

[@Animamundi139]

This episode is SO dense ❤ it’s going to take me a week to complete because I keep rewinding and re-listening!! I’m at 54 min but I’ve been listening 3 hrs lol 😂 thank you !! Such a great talk and great guests as always !! ❤ 💫

[@koskost2857]

Πολύ καλή απαγγελία του ύμνου. Εύγε!!

[@KathleenLarsonStargazer]

Had to use Google translate :)

[@beendip1977]

I love Kristin, yay!

[@xZoSeGrx]

Best episode ever!!!

[@bloglivethehighve]

Liked in the first minute ✨👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@Silvertestrun]

Thank you!

[@kimsastro-healing108]

This is Amrita Nectar from the Gods! 😋 🙏 ❤ 🌟

[@leviashanken2506]

I read that Sufism comes from Orphism, such as the whirling and chanting to achieve alternate states.

[@m2the]

The waters of memory and forgetting sound very red pill, blue pill. Also most grounding example I like for how the part contains the all: how could I exist without the oxygen from trees and plants, the water from streams and lakes, the bacteria in my stomach that digest food, etc. Take all those away and I die. Those things live on inside me and I live on only because they exist.

[@fredwiggins4610]

Thank you

[@arwyn.artistries]

I had a dream about you last night Chris . I dreamt that you were spending some time with me and a few of my friends and some strangers near a subway station, and I said to you that you are really intelligent and that “ you’ve been reading books on astrology for a long time haven’t you” because you explain everything so eloquently and in a way that people like me can understand, which shows that not only are you smart academically but as well as emotionally intelligent. Anyways for a while I was falling asleep to your podcast because you have a nice voice, and so it’s no surprise that your creeping your way into my subconscious haha. Thank you for providing a comforting space to listen to your knowledge and also lull me to sleep (and definitely not because it’s boring) also, later on in the dream you laid down next to me and I was gently rubbing your head, and you said something like “thank you, cancer risings have sensitive heads” which I was confused about because I didn’t think you were a cancer rising. Looked up your chart and you have moon in the ascendant, now I wonder if that’s what you meant. Anywho. It was just a dream but it was nice and I wanted to share. Have a good day 🩵

[@melissamoore521]

People who have profound and positive influence on our mundane lives, as well as the supernatural life of our unconscious, should be most complimented. =) There are a bunch of us who appreciate and trust Chris. Lots of virtual head rubs...😂

[@reginabaldwin7543]

Maybe the seven belts referred to the orbits of the 7 planets.

[@Lisa-dy1fr]

Cool coincidence, the Orphism visual art movement was named by poet Guillaume Apollinaire..Apollo was Orpheus' father.

[@heidimariebee]

Please release the Pythagorean episode!

[@bethanyanne5657]

other absolute banger!

[@mariakatariina8751]

10:27 Väinämöinen and Aino of the Suomi national epos Kalevala.

[@JesseKeegan]

Orph-acinating/Orph-antastic/Orph-resh perspectives, making the book & researches of y'all to be kept an eye out for. Here's to the molders of fate!

[@PamKC]

I have to wonder if the Orphic mysteries related to astrology should use the sidereal zodiac, likewise what occurs on earth in the mundane world should be looked at via the seasons/tropical. Do we need the sidereal compass when we are walking the death road?? We might get lost or end up on a detour using the tropical system. Hopefully we will have a psychopomp to guide us.

[@8248angelina]

Is it just my apple podcasts app or has the podcast not been uploaded for the last few episodes?

[@TheAstrologyPodcast]

It is showing up for me on iTunes, so not sure

[@8248angelina]

Weird. The last episode it shows was March 25 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@mariakatariina8751]

22:13 Apollo - a/paljon - not/plenty, much, abundance

[@MicheleRenee18]

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[@Cmrntylr]

This is all over Rosicrucianism where its core it the mysteries of Golgatha which is the same myth. The specific difference as why it exists is that journey to the underworld gave humanity the “I” that gives us free will. This is actually defined, as it’s a myth of the logos, that the astrology chart is fate, or will. The cosmos represented by the dodecahedron or zodiac (in this case).. free will is more “mental”. You treat the causal with stoicism, then active in studying the cosmos which is 7 moods or approaches to 12 different disciplines. Like, sun is empiricism and the moon is occult by its reflection of light of the sun. The sun illuminates, the moon reflects the illumination which is occult is defined. The suggestion is to study each planet in each sign through Virgo as Virgo is the sign associated with studying the mysteries, Venus is the mysteries itself as mysticism. Pretty much every philosophical topic brought up on astro podcast episodes are in the core of Rosicrucianism while including historic alterations as dealing with a specific new topic. The gospel of Saint John is was their initiation text. (1st 14 versus). They’re of 7 stages, the mystic death sounds amazing. This is recognition of the senses and maya. Good times. The last thing I ever wanted to do was revise “Christian astrology” but here we are, right on the cusp of developing it. 😂 I’m actually more interested as the “mental zodiac” is a system used (also) to defuse the illusion of duality. Aka: it can identify biases and be used to navigate, say, the internet. Controversial! Which was kind of touched on. Rosicrucians say ancient astrologers knew the sun was the center but was hidden in the mystery schools so an initiated person couldn’t perform any of these types of rituals described in the episode.

[@samspade2657]

Orphicism is thought to have strong Vedic influences.

[@samspade2657]

@@lisasmith3657 see Alsobrook. “The Beginning of Time: Vedic and Orphic Theogonies and Poetics.” (2015).

[@samspade2657]

@@lisasmith3657 And Timothy J. Lomperis wrote in his book, Hindu Influence on Greek Philosophy: The Odyssey of the Soul from the Upanishads to Plato, that: "Consequently, it is the central thesis of this study that Plato, through the Pythagoreans and also the Orphics, was subjected to the influence of Hindu thought, but that he may not have been aware of it as coming from India."

[@briannatayla]

orpheus is giving hermes as a water sign

[@mariakatariina8751]

Hermes - kertomus - story, history 21:12

[@lyndacalder5083]

yay, 1st to view Again,

[@hrissti8367]

One correction though, Orpheus was not a Greek. He was included in the Greek mythology but He was actually a Thracian poet and singer. And Thrace was never considered a part of Greece. Another story is how Greek mythology has "consumed" multiple mediterranean myths and included them in their cosmology. It is important to check and use this knowledge accurately.

[@elenipapadimitriou7486]

You are wrong, all along......

[@reginabaldwin7543]

This episode gave me the chills. Over the ages, the ancients have been denigrated as polytheists. But as this discussion shows, the ancients had a much more sophisticated understanding of the universe and its divinity (the part equals the whole; not the other way around). Theirs was more a sophisticated understanding. Many modern "monotheistic" religions claim to be about one God but are actually devotional to man. One major exception is Judaism, whose core tenet is that "G*d" has no name and is unknowable and ineffable comes the closest to these ancient beliefs. Mind blown!

[@heidimariebee]

You missed the point completely

[@mariangrimsdell1112]

I guess the saying there is nothing new under the Sun comes to my mind, the Gaia principle was obviously well understood right from the beginning of Time on earth. The human Ego has a constant need to redefine itself over the ages, it will recycle ancient themes into something supposedly “modern” as it feels the need to have its own identity or experience.

[@erindambrosio5410]

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[@elizakarmasalo111]

Orpheus comes from the Rhodope mountain. That is in Bulgaria. So no. It is not "Greek". Greko-Roman parasites took over ancient Thracia and Thracians were many tribes to whom Orpheus gave the "language" and the language is not Greek. Greeks are mixture of Helenestic Thracians and mainly african pirates... so let's not give Orhpeus the name Greek, please.

[@heidimariebee]

Interesting, can you suggest sources for further reading on this? Wouldn’t Hekate and Dionysus also be Thracian?

[@elenipapadimitriou7486]

Tell me my fellow, are you out of your mind?????😂