HOW-TO: Glue Down Pool Table Cloth Just Like The Real King Cobra!

[@dooverman7524]

Glen is the real deal. Best pool table mechanic in the world probably. Glue prevents staple holes which destroy the backing of the slate over time and allow you to stretch index the cloth properly. He should be teaching full time there is a lot more to table maintenance than people have any idea about. Kudos!

[@craiglopp7018]

This isn’t backed slate if it was I backed he’d probably staple it

[@scottlame6724]

A true craftsman at work. Doesn't get any better than that.

[@therealkingcobra]

Thank you for your support!👍🏻

[@poolhalljunky]

This man needs more likes....this is the best example of how to do this. Now I just need to figure out a stretch test. Thank u sir.

[@dksittingduck]

Covered in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqS6nJx3mNRma7c

[@therealkingcobra]

I'm explaining that in full on the 7ft Valley slate I'm getting ready to recover, trust me, you won't have any questions after watching that video.

[@hightttech]

Brother, hear the man grunting? You come back in a year, run a ripper up the middle, and when a 1 1/2 inch gap opens up; THERE IS YOUR TEST. That fabric still had some stretch in it. Some mechanics are so weak that the fabric is wrinkling and/or bunching in front of the ball within DAYS. Their glue and technique is often crap as well.

[@peterwhitaker71]

Followed your directions and my Pro-am looks amazing. Thank you.

[@johnc1256]

Thank you for sharing this with the world Glen even if you are selling glue😁 We won't be here forever buddy but now this knowledge will be. Nice work explaining and demonstrating! JC

[@wyattshelton2080]

Great tesch etiquette and patience in this man.

[@bartmauldin597]

Fantastic video! Hoping to see one on how you did the rails on this table as well. Keep up the great work!

[@johnbell452]

Best video out there on the subject. Quantifies the process.

[@kimbye1]

Pro installation right there.

[@rangepro]

Salute to the MAN

[@georgerandolph3053]

Great video and info......can i use the same step by step procedure when doing a stapled install on my GC 1?

[@therealkingcobra]

Can be used on any table, only difference is how the pockets are finished off.

[@alanmorgan09]

well I just copied your method and cutting in the middle pockets was as easy as can be, Best method I have seen , thanks a million for posting such a great tutorial video,

[@JohnSnow-w9m]

Awesome. Great information delivered from years of experience. Thank you

[@gazman1001]

Man that cloth is tight. Really well done Glen 😀

[@therealkingcobra]

Thank you for your support! 👍🏻

[@zantoy1]

Not even close to tight

[@therealkingcobra]

What's not close to tight?

[@hightttech]

​​@@zantoy1: Buddy, it is TIGHT. He had his helper holding the other end of slate so he wouldn't pull the slate right off the blocks (i call it "tug of war" with my helper). He is pulling to his lines with clamps. I'm breaking a sweat watching him.

[@lukemcfarren7573]

Nice shirt RKC! Way to represent Billings,MT! That’s my home pool room.

[@donh1537]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge! It's very interesting.

[@brianallen2464]

ty for a great video. and your knowledge dedication to the industry please keep video's coming

[@DerekEmerson]

Different cloths will I’ve different stretch amounts, how do you know how much stretch for the cloth that you purchase, will the support be able to tell you?

[@therealkingcobra]

I'm about to produce the full stretch index and glue down system, with full explanations about how and why this is done and that is done, very explanatory. I've never fully put this information out anywhere other than with hands on training with some of my students.

[@andreasyngvesson2722]

Hi, Thanks for a Great vid. It will help a lot. I have a 8ft table. With the rails removed my side pockets measure 6 inches along the side of the table and a depth of 3,5 inches. Is this a full size pocket, meaning i should give it a slack of 13/16 of an inch on the anchor side and 5/8 of an inch on the stretch side? Greatfull for any reply.

[@therealkingcobra]

Yes, you have a full size slate, so use the 13/16" and 5/8" measurements

[@kazaanggriawan]

@@therealkingcobra what about 9ft GC IV do you also use the 13/16" and 5/8" measurements?

[@mc2e100]

I loved your video, but could not find RKC250 available anytime soon. It had excellent ratings. I hope Polymat 777 Pool Table and Game Room Felt Spray Adhesive Glue works half as well as the RKC250.

[@therealkingcobra]

Depends on where you live, but call Aaron at Diamond, he might be able to tell you the closest dealer, 812-288-7665

[@CueKefner]

Thank you for all this information on pool table installations. It has helped tremendously 🙏 I have one question that would help me out greatly if you have the chance to respond. I've been helping out my local pool hall installing new cloth and we've been installing the Simonis 760. After doing the stretch indexing, we end up with a stretch from side to side of 2.5". Minus the .75" we end up with 1.75" working index. When it comes to the ends of the table, I'm able to stretch both ends at least 3+ inches, at both ends even when one end is stretched and anchored. We install the cloth dry, no water at all. I'm sure it's user error on my side, but I'm wondering if the ends should be able to stretch that much over the side to side working index? Or is it more important to just stay within the stretch index numbers regardless if the cloth can stretch passed that? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you again for you all your input.

[@therealkingcobra]

Then you need to increase the side to side, and the ends equally. For example, if you're stretching 2" side to side, then both ends should be 2" as well. But when you stretch the second end, and you notice you can stretch 2.5" then on the next table, increase the side to side to 2.25" and both ends to 2.25". Watch the second end again. Adjust again if needed.

[@CueKefner]

​@therealkingcobra, That definitely helped. I ended up having a much more equal stretch all the way around this time 👌 thank you for responding, and thank you again for all the information you have put out for installing tables and reclothing. It has helped tremendously

[@DCniner]

Brothers Billiards 🎱 The best place to shoot pool in Montana! Glad I came across your video before a buddy and myself do his table here in the coming days. Thought we were ready but apparently the spray glue gots to go. Thanks for the knowledge! A lot more to it than I knew. Definitely would have screwed his up today if the plan wouldn’t have fell through. Will be putting on championship tour edition. Ever since the bar our league shoots out of put a worsted felt down on their tables, it’s not the same shooting on that pleated stuff that is currently on buddies table at home.

[@therealkingcobra]

I know all about Brothers Billiards, I set the tables up there, and service them.

[@joshuacrites4821]

I'm glad i found your channel before just doing my table the way the first video I saw did it. I bought Super 77 and was awaiting the rails and cloth to be delivered, Valley Cougar 7ft. I would love to use your glue but 4 gal is a bit much for me. Awesome information and thank you for sharing it with the world.

[@gosnellktn]

diamond sells it by the quart. hope that helps the next guy.

[@a.h8362]

ONE OF THE BEST VIDEOS

[@jinjrhaynes]

I'll fly you down to California and help you produce a video for a diamond table. If you're interested.

[@tomburns890]

What’s your opinion about adding 3mm or 5mm facings to existing facings to tighten pockets instead of extending cushions and at extra time and money. Is a 3mm plus addition 5mm too much and will change the correct acceptance of the pocket or do able? Thx

[@therealkingcobra]

Not something I'd do or offer.

[@mc2e100]

Where can I buy, King Cobra Billiard Products RKC250 and how fast can I get it?

[@therealkingcobra]

Call up Diamond, 812-288-7665, ask for Aaron in Sales or call West State Billiards Supply 714-738-8200, talk to Jim.

[@therealkingcobra]

Depending on where you're located, you could get it next day

[@gilrodriguez5937]

Thank you for sharing this mr Glen, i have a question can you use this method by staple instead of using glue. my slates have wood underneath the slate to staple the felt

[@therealkingcobra]

That's the point of using my gluing system, not to have to use staples, but yes, the stretch index system and pattern of installing the cloth remains the same.

[@gilrodriguez5937]

Thank you Mr Glen

[@gosnellktn]

how much idle time can you have with the glue once it is applied to each surface, but not stretched? how much work time do you have to stretch and restretch? is it a bond that can be reworked a few times in a short period of time or is it more of a one and done contact? I am still learning on this glue and haven't made the jump to gluing the whole project at once. other glues didn't have the working time to allow for that, so i haven't made the jump. king cobra glue is awesome, i just haven't used it often enough to learn best practices.

[@therealkingcobra]

Hey buddy, you don't have to worry about running out of time with my adhesive, it kind of works like velcro, meaning you have a few hours to work with it, or as soon as a couple of minutes. The key to its bonding strength is when you pressure bond the two sides with the adhesive. It's based more on shear strength than contact bond like normal adhesives are, so that means until you pressure bond it, you can pull it apart, reposition, and stick again. But once it's pressure bonded, pulling it apart again is going to require adding more adhesive, because one side is going to stay stuck to the other side, pulling the adhesive off that surface, so, no need to rush.

[@poolhalljunky]

I need a Recommendation. I've been looking for the RKC250 glue and it seems like everywhere has been out of stock for months. I'm about to recover my table with predator reserve tournament blue cloth (using your techniques) and don't want cheap glue, nor spray glue. I really want the rkc250 tour blue, but it seems like that may not be a possibility..... Where do you get your rkc250 glue? And if I can't get that glue, what other glue do you think would be similar? Thanks, JT.

[@therealkingcobra]

Diamond Billiards will be receiving a shipment of RKC250 Billiards glue on Dec 22. They will be shipping out to the distributors there after.

[@poolhalljunky]

@@therealkingcobra I got mine from manning cues. They had some. It just got shipped today. Thanks

[@luthead]

This is awesome stuff

[@rich16013]

Your apprentice should pay you😁 Perfection

[@andrewlaprairie]

Hey i was wondering if you use fiberglass packing tape under the pocket shelf after installation of the felt? Ive seen this and wonder what its purpose is?

[@therealkingcobra]

No need to use any tape with the roll on adhesive, tape is used with spray glue because it won't hold over time.

[@andrewlaprairie]

@ The Real King Cobra Billiards hey thanks for the response. I re felted my table using your methods and achieved superior results! I can't thank you enough for sharing your knowledge

[@tooeasy6258]

What's the glue his using?

[@AndrewGraham-w4b]

What kind of cloth is this?

[@therealkingcobra]

Strachan Superweave

[@HansFormerlyTraffer]

I wonder what the going rate for covering a 4 1/2 x9 is nowadays. We have one that is about ready for recovering.

[@donh1537]

I'm sure it varies by person and area... I recently read 300 ish for simonis cloth and 500 for install

[@therealkingcobra]

Depends on area and who's doing it.

[@Pomykala325]

How’s it going King cobra! I have an Olhausen table, which has slate screw holes in the middle of the seams. What do you recommend I use to fill those?

[@therealkingcobra]

Bondo

[@Pomykala325]

@@therealkingcobra I appreciate the response, thank you🤙🏼

[@dburgessnotburger]

Beautiful

[@gomaasalm2236]

انت اكثر من رائع سلمت يداك❤

[@johngies4024]

Are you coming to Brothers this fall to recover the tables?

[@therealkingcobra]

No, actually I'll be sending Zach Jonas out to recover those Diamonds. Zach and I both serviced them together last time, but I'm kind of looking forward to retirement.

[@geoffcarlton4047]

Did you have to reglue any part as you were a good 30 minutes after glueing, I did this in the UK where that glue is hard to find and was running around the table as it was going off quickly.

[@therealkingcobra]

No, with my adhesive, you have at least 2 hours of working time.

[@alphacapo]

This guy does a great job. But seems to over complicate it. Depending on the glue and ambient conditions you'll have to move fast....I use the 3m spray and u have to work fairly fast once it starts to get tacky. Spray works fine. You gotta use different technique tho

[@therealkingcobra]

Open time on my adhesive is at least 2 hours

[@JoseEspinoza-pt2il]

Hello so on the side pockets one is 3/8 and the other a hair over than 1/4 right?

[@therealkingcobra]

Bar table like a Valley, yes

[@thebu988]

​@therealkingcobra What is the name of that yellow tool you use to press the cloth? what can I use like this?

[@therealkingcobra]

It's the razor knife case.

[@mitsukiken5966]

Where can I buy the green cloth it's for another projet?

[@therealkingcobra]

Either West State Billiards or Billiard wholesalers

[@dksittingduck]

RKC 250 gives spray glue the 5 and the breaks!

[@Frip36]

Good job. What color is this felt?

[@therealkingcobra]

Green??

[@Frip36]

@@therealkingcobra i could have told you that

[@therealkingcobra]

The cloth I use is Strachan Superweave

[@margaretzimmerman3588]

What kind of roller!

[@therealkingcobra]

3/16", 5mm nap, 3" wide.

[@NetPwn]

Beautiful work! , I have a decent sized table but the base is Wooden and worped in areas : ( , I re clothed it about 6 years ago because the cloth was gone, I had a normal staple gun and my hands , I will not be doing that again. Question , I thought because the wood on the base is warped in some places , maybe a 1mm or even 3mm polycarbonate base on top of that (glued) , using polycarbonate because it doesnt crack. And then a new cloth? Of course there are more expensive methods but ay. Great vid!

[@NetPwn]

Im guessing a ploycarbonate base would be extremely fast.

[@lamly1958]

I need some glue, can you pls provide the link, TY

[@therealkingcobra]

Call Diamond Billiards, 812-288-7665

[@jonnyrocket262]

Bout to go out and buy some of that glue.

[@jorgeluis9488]

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[@dammitZeva]

Smooth side is the playing side. Smooth side up. (but double check with the cloth manufacturer)

[@therealkingcobra]

I have no idea what you mean by tapestry, sorry.

[@pelay77]

Hi can I do this with a Napless cloth felt?

[@therealkingcobra]

Yes you can use my adhesive to install any make of cloth.

[@douglashull3807]

Why are you not installing a few inches of the cloth underneath the slate as designed by Valley. That's how they come new. As evidence, notice that strip of cloth on the main support aluminum beams and the remnants of the old glue underneath the slate. Instead of saying "nobody in the world using spray glue that would hold this tight with just that little bit of glue right there, nobody" did it ever occur to you that they can just put a clamp there before stretching to the corner? Love this channel. Subscribed!!!

[@therealkingcobra]

You can put 10 clamps on the edge of the slate if you want, but if you install the cloth as tight as it needs to be, you're going to have to take those clamps off sooner or later, and when you do, the cloth is going to pull loose, I guarantee it. It's easy to prove too, all you have to do is install the cloth as tight as you index the stretch, and the spray glue won't hold. They put the cloth on the crossmembers as a shim to match the same thickness as the cloth wrapped under the edges of the slate.

[@douglashull3807]

@@therealkingcobra Ten Clamps, you're funny. If it is wrapped underneath, no it will not pull loose. The clamp is not removed until that side is stretched and installed. You're wrong about that being a "lie". By your own admission, "cloth on the crossmembers as a shim" you should be wrapping the cloth. Again, as designed by Valley. Disclaimer: great channel, subscribed.

[@therealkingcobra]

I've been recovering bar tables for over 40 years, how long have you been working on them? Post a video of a Valley you've worked on showing a 9 rail bank.

[@therealkingcobra]

And do you ever wonder why the cloth from the factory has that white backing glued to it? That's called rayon, nick named rubber backed cloth, it don't get stretched, just installed snug, that's why it don't pull loose. I'd bust your bank account proving you wrong about spray glue NOT pulling loose, guaranteed!!!

[@therealkingcobra]

When you're installing 66" wide Simonis 860HR on an 8ft Valley, after removing the rail cloth from the bed cloth, how wide is that bed cloth that you have to install on the slate??? 66"-18"= 48" wide bet cloth to go on a slate 47 1/2" wide, + the 7/8" thickness of the anchor side of the slate. So basically you have to install a 48" wide piece of cloth on a slate almost 48 1/2" wide, where are you getting all that EXTRA cloth from to tuck it UNDER the slate with your spray glue??? The STRECH from side to side???

[@andrewlaprairie]

Hey great information. How can I purchase some of your products?!?

[@therealkingcobra]

What are you looking for?

[@andrewlaprairie]

@ The Real King Cobra Billiards I have just purchased new felt and I would like to use the RKC250 adhesive you demonstrated in this recover tutorial. However I live in northern Canada 🇨🇦 😎 and I am having difficulty finding a distributor that will ship.

[@therealkingcobra]

It's only available in gallons right now, but Diamond Billiards, or Manning Cues would be your contact.

[@illmatic33]

Product link?

[@therealkingcobra]

West State Billiards or Diamond Billiards.

[@dariusleonard8478]

Where to order those clamps

[@therealkingcobra]

Home depot, Lowes, or Haro Harbor Freight.

[@kironkothari3995]

Unable to find your glue to redo my table

[@therealkingcobra]

Billiards Wholesalers or West State Billiards.

[@666dynomax]

guys a pro

[@gtrmusic69]

Hard to believe they muted half of what the man is saying with music.

[@rubenvil09]

No audio button

[@therealkingcobra]

Make sure that sound/volume is turned on for your browser or device. Check your device's sound settings. Restart your browser or device. Audio is fine and should be working.

[@rubenvil09]

I have no audio

[@Otingocni]

my audio is working.

[@harleywayne8649]

Had he torn that tournament cloth, I would have left the room...😮😮😮

[@therealkingcobra]

In 40+ years, I've never ripped a bed cloth stretching it on installation.😅

[@feedbox2]

If you're not going to wrap the cloth around the underside of the slate like it comes from the factory you have to remove the cloth that is glued to the cross members that the factory put to compensate for the thickness of the cloth in the middle

[@therealkingcobra]

Wrong, if you take and put a rail on top of the slate, then measure the thickness of the rail and slate combined, take that measurement and compare it to how far down inside the table the slate sits, by measuring down from the formica rail cap, to the slate support braces, you'll find out there's about an 1/8" gap, which means if you set the slate in with out filling up that gap, either you're going to have a gap between the bottom of the rail and the slate, if the rails are lined up with the top of the formica, or if you push the rails down to sit on the slate, you're going to have about an 1/8" of formica exposed at the top of the rails, scratching the hell out of everyone's cue shafts.

[@tylerreno4953]

peeled the spray glue stright off my fucking table when i went to Strech it the first time

[@therealkingcobra]

That's why all spray glue has to be removed first before applying my adhesive, or FB10.

[@trippw88]

There is a guy that gets paid by the hour!

[@johnc1256]

No it's a guy who does it right and charges by the job. No matter how long it takes.

[@therealkingcobra]

Who's paid by the hour, me?😅🤣😍

[@therealkingcobra]

I get paid for perfection, and that don't come by way of hours of labor. I charge a fee for my services, and that fee covers from start to finish, regardless of how many hours I put into the job.

[@therealkingcobra]

You sound like you're unemployed😅🤣

[@ralphwiggum240]

never put the glue near the corners ! Only use strong duct tape at the corners from underneath. This guy doesn't shoot pool, he doesn't know! that glue on the corners creates a ledge, and the ball won't roll into the pocket at pocket speed... when you put glue like that, and then stretch the cloth, when the cloth moves, it brings the glue up to the edge with it ! and now you will have 1mm of glue bead at the top edge of the corners ! enough to stop a slow rolling ball. Let people that actually shoot pool for real help you! they are the ones that will be affected

[@hightttech]

If you glue the fabric right, the fabric won't pull back. If the fabric pulls back, you've lost your stretch leading into the pocket, and the fabric will begin bunching in front of the ball as it approaches the pocket ("sand rolling"). No way tape alone will replace glue if pocket stretched tight. But tape ok as secondary.

[@ralphwiggum240]

@@hightttech I'm not saying don't glue... I am saying don't glue where the ball rolls, or you are affecting the ball's roll... any glue under the fabric affects the ball's roll. The rails cover the glue, except near the pockets. a 1/32" height of glue will stop a pocket-speed ball from rolling in. I have seen this firsthand, I play pool every night for the past 15 years. on multiple tables. Also, the best glue to use is *SUPER 90* spray on glue from 3M, it doesn't break down like the other glues when time goes by and oxidation occurs. I have Super 90 3M spray glue staying put for 10 years

[@hightttech]

@@ralphwiggum240: I misunderstood your comment. Sorry. I TOTALLY AGREE, NO GLUE ON TOP OF SLATE. At pocket entry, I razor to BARE slate on top when i find glue. To protect finger cuts, I rather use 3M strapping vs duct tape because it removes intact without ripping, drying out or leaving goo. I have used 3M 90 in an emergency, but 3M 76 is my first choice for the bed, 77 for rails. Cheers

[@hardtobefirst]

What on earth would possess you to say that the real king cobra doesn’t play pool? Or a guy who makes his life playing on, selling and repairing pool tables, I am sure this comes as a real surprise to him!

[@zantoy1]

WTF!!! I can tear a table apart, recover it and put it together in 30 mins. What are you doing?!?

[@therealkingcobra]

Show your work then. Bet you're using spray glue too, and not cleaning the old spray glue off either.

[@therealkingcobra]

Lots of speed hacks working on pool tables, but you can't deliver the quality work!