how to go 9s with e7 heads and stock bottom end

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Terry Grover

Terry Grover

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@cameronmackenzie4410
@cameronmackenzie4410 3 жыл бұрын
Your doing a fine job! Been a while since i stumbled onto a channel where the guy makong the video obviously knows what he's doing. My hats off to you sir. Subscribed! And thanks for sharing your secrets.
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much I sincerely appreciate that 😊
@edsmachine93
@edsmachine93 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video Terry. Good explanation and factual representation of your engine, cylinder heads combinations. Always good to see your videos. Thanks for sharing. Take care, Ed.
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ed always appreciate your input and thank you for watching my friend
@kimcokevin
@kimcokevin 2 жыл бұрын
I love 302’s. Amazing what you’re doing with them.
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and thanks for watching
@brentonk461
@brentonk461 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say you have your combo well matched their mate. Probably the quickest 302 Windsor I've seen.👍
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir It's well matched but cam choice could be better but it has been good to us beings this motor has been around for 5 years and from car to car .Thank you my friend 👍👍
@thomasbookman4622
@thomasbookman4622 2 жыл бұрын
I have love these videos . I like going fast with what I have. I have a turbo combo now with stock heads and cam. Would love to have a pair of your e7 on it
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 2 жыл бұрын
Thomas thank you I just saw this appreciate your kind words and you watching my videos
@Mustang-Rick
@Mustang-Rick 2 жыл бұрын
Good information Terry!!! 302 are good engines!!!
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you hope your doing well 😊 thanks for watching
@young11984
@young11984 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been 6.28/121 1/8 mile but was spinning some with a stock 88 5.0, only non stock items internally was 1.7 RRs, good valve springs, billet timing set, 1011-1 fel pros and ARP head studs. Has a freightliner turbo, quick fuel blow thru 750, 15psi that was “intercooled” with a 150 shot drove to and from the track for many years and only ran 87 octane. They are tough little engines and rpm/tune splits them more than hp does, i could have went 5s easily with race fuel, more timing and anything other than stock struts and shocks but the goal was 5s on 87
@lucdanh1509
@lucdanh1509 2 жыл бұрын
Love it man…just subscribe to your channel bro
@mr306notch
@mr306notch 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting up your videos! I’m huge fan of doing more with less, especially with a 5speed
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 3 жыл бұрын
This is the whole idea behind my channel thank you i appreciate you guys I'm hoping to have a whole lot more for you guys my son just mentioned to me he"d like to have this motor back when I get my bucket list motor done he is going to strap one of those things you call a turbo and try to go 8 seconds with it in the green gangster i think that's where that engine belongs back in that car
@granadojl
@granadojl 3 жыл бұрын
Love the shirt.. Gotta love the 1960 F100.
@markmoire2058
@markmoire2058 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes in doing this stuff you just hit on good combo and keep trying to refine it the best is making the best what you have satisfaction level is much higher than just throwing money at it good job
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 3 жыл бұрын
This little combination has spoiled me so basic but so strong I wish all our engines would run this good Thank you 👍👍
@servediocylinderheads
@servediocylinderheads 3 жыл бұрын
If you chose to try the Parker I have good intel on them, do the short runners differently than the long runners. Think of it as two four cylinders connected to the same crank. The different length runners will actually flatten the torque curve because they peak at different rpm.
@68nitrostang
@68nitrostang 2 жыл бұрын
What converter ? Brand , diameter ? I’d like to know more about your combo
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 2 жыл бұрын
It's a t5 a 5 speed transmission we had an 8 inch converter in one of our combos and it was a 4500 stall, my son Adam could tell you all the combos hes on Facebook and has youtube on Grover boys racing which you can see the car run if you put in the green gangster
@josephharrison6175
@josephharrison6175 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your engine combo! To run like you do I picture a strpped down racecar only. Seems your suspension would have to be drag only. Tires, drag slicks and skinnnies. Is this about right? I have a '92 LX 5.0 with a GT40 intake and heads combo. My car weighs the sameas stock or a bit more. What tips do you think I might be able to use my friend? Joe D.
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 Жыл бұрын
These are cars we drive to work they aren't stripped down race cars lol I just have lakewood traction bars on mine and mine is full weight and we do run slicks and skinnies to race the car but we had a car with drag radials on the rear and stock ponys on the front and it picked up nothing putting drag lites on it , I need to know if you have a 5 speed or automatic? Is it a daily driver ? And are you planning on running a power adder ? Be happy to help you if I can thanks for watching joe 😊
@vinmandich7756
@vinmandich7756 2 жыл бұрын
Don't be upset with the guys that push the parts changing tech meaning they are just that parts changers there not mechanics with the knowledge or knowhow to make power I love busting a bank burners ass with factory castings . It separates the crowds
@joelmclaughlin2558
@joelmclaughlin2558 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Terry! Love your 5.0 help. I have an '89 Bronco to fix up. 5.0, 185 hp@ 4400. Aol, and 4.10 dif. As my project, I would like to help the bottom end, and mid range as this thing weighs 4600 empty. I know a stroker kit would do wonders, but do you think I can improve the bottom end say, 20% with head work, and a slightly better cam? (RV spec,). Any suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks for all you do!
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 Жыл бұрын
Hello Joel that would work just fine, I would mill and port the heads, a good 3 angle valve job and back cut the valves you should pick up about 20 lbs of torque and 30 to 50 hp depending on who does the heads keep in mind your looking for all mid lift numbers on the heads beings your going to be an all mid range combo , that's what you want in that heavy vehicle if you need more help I'd be happy to help with your cam choice
@ricktotz4078
@ricktotz4078 3 жыл бұрын
Good video hang in there
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you appreciate that👍
@vinmandich4020
@vinmandich4020 2 жыл бұрын
Tell us the cam specs gears trans and weigh
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 2 жыл бұрын
Typical mustang weight 430 gears 28" tires Anderson n51 cam
@AdashZep612
@AdashZep612 2 жыл бұрын
YOU AND YER SON RAWK🤘🤘🤘🤘blue collared appreciated
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@AdashZep612
@AdashZep612 2 жыл бұрын
So I’m having trouble finding any specific video on how you ported the E7s. I have a ‘87 ttop and engines coming out tomorrow to head over to machine shop to get freshened with new bearings and the works. Figured during the down time work the E7s before I place them back on. Any help greatly appreciated. Thank you for yer time. Also to yer son Adam for sending me to yer KZbin and of course the Misses, for putting yer content up online. 🙏🙏🙏
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 2 жыл бұрын
@@AdashZep612 Adam the bowl is crucial on the e7s because it takes so much work to taper them in and cut back to make them as round as possible due to the flat spots in them and bad casting most of your gain is getting a smooth transition off the seat, its hard to go in detail in a message on this if you can share your number privately to adam i could call you and go over it with you
@AdashZep612
@AdashZep612 2 жыл бұрын
@@terrygrover6440 he doesn’t have a send message option on his channel.
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 2 жыл бұрын
@@AdashZep612 oh ok sorry I didn't know that
@kingsmen4728
@kingsmen4728 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question... I have an 86 gt mustang and I know from what I have heard that these are a flat top position motor meaning no valve reliefs but I have also heard that later date production 86 5.0s they added the valve reliefs I want to run a cam at least a b303 and some gt40 heads I do realize that I need to first convert to MAF that is easy enough to do and I need to get an A9L ECM I can do that to but any light being shed on this would help thanks!!
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 3 жыл бұрын
If you have no valve reliefs in the piston I dont think you can go over 480 lift but it may be less only because I've never tried to put a cam in with that piston but putting the gt40 heads on you will lose some compression you will be about 8.9 to 1thats taking a stab at it a gt40p head will raise the compression to about 9 and a half to 1depending on the thickness of the head gasket if your putting a cam in i refer to the b cam as better then nothing being there is not much performance gain i hope this was helpful thank you for watching
@kingsmen4728
@kingsmen4728 3 жыл бұрын
@@terrygrover6440 okay thank you very much yes very helpful I appreciate it
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingsmen4728 anytime if you have any questions feel free to ask if i can help I will 👍
@kingsmen4728
@kingsmen4728 3 жыл бұрын
@@terrygrover6440 great thank you I sure will
@RonnieMoscaAmericanstangs6033
@RonnieMoscaAmericanstangs6033 Жыл бұрын
I noticed the efi distributor running a carb , been a long time since I've seen that
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 Жыл бұрын
You have a good eye most people don't notice that, thanks for watching
@AdashZep612
@AdashZep612 2 жыл бұрын
Also still praying for yer heath. Yer good people🙏🙏🙏
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you we all need prayer i appreciate that so much god is good ❤❤
@kevindrury8390
@kevindrury8390 3 жыл бұрын
What are the camshaft specifications? I got one I'm putting together
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry i just saw your comment the cams an anderson n 51 cam but we had to notch the pistons for this cam 302 will still run 11s with an n 41 cam
@NoFox_Given
@NoFox_Given Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, this was great. Which Anderson cam did you use?
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 Жыл бұрын
It's an n51 and you have to notch the stock pistons for valve clearance hope this is helpful but there are better cam choices then this in my opinion
@joeydixon4435
@joeydixon4435 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for video, guys like and 50tussin,give hope to the budget minded persons as me and son that is putting together a 89 coupe with 302,for nothing but the track.
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 2 жыл бұрын
If you have any questions or need any help you can always reach out to my son Adam Grover on Facebook or me here you can go 11s with a stock motor with gear and suspension done and on a budget
@leomelton3243
@leomelton3243 2 жыл бұрын
What would you think of a combo utilizing stock 302 shortblock, e303 cam, gt40 3 bar heads milled to 55cc approx 10:1 cr, and a tunnel ram? Its a combo im thinking of using in my 49 shoebox gasser.
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 2 жыл бұрын
That's a fine combo if you already have that cam and those parts however depending how fast your trying to go the 303 cam doesn't work very well with a tunnel ram we have similar combinations with a duel plane intake that run 11s a tunnel ram takes a lot of tuning and with low compression gives up torque below 3000 rpm a stick car is more forgiving and a light weight vehicle helps to , the tunnel ram is cool on a gasser but I'd up the cam shaft hope this is helpful
@leomelton3243
@leomelton3243 2 жыл бұрын
@@terrygrover6440 thanks for the recommendation. Im building the car for more nostalgia than racing. Ive got the car, 88 bronco long block and gt40 heads. Planning on running an 8.8 with 4.10 gears. Id still like it to be a 11 second capable setup though I dont plan to track it. Im hoping the weight will be around 2600-2800
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 2 жыл бұрын
@@leomelton3243 you should be in the 11s no problem, with 2800 lbs and 430 gear and 28 inch tires would go 11s bone stock with e7 heads good luck let me know how you make out
@MikeFL2TX
@MikeFL2TX Жыл бұрын
I’m designing a 351w for a friend who just bought a ‘49. I said to straight axle the front too, but it’s going to be a cruiser that he can stand on if he chooses.
@tylerford2651
@tylerford2651 2 жыл бұрын
What valve covers are you using they look good
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 2 жыл бұрын
I think my son got them from ebay not really sure
@95Sn95
@95Sn95 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously a nice modern set a performance heads are the ticket for all out performance but if you take any factory head and do the basic improvements it will increase power. Little bowl and pocket and guide boss work is easy and make a big difference. Then smooth and radius the runners and your done. For the price of a sand roll kit a carbide and your time you can do noticable flow gains. Most working joes can't just drop $1000-2000 for a set of heads plus still need rockers and pushrods. The forum jerkoffs say porting the factory HO intake is "a waste of time" big dogs porting gets 230cfm out of a HO intake... He charges $375 to $525 depending on stage 2 or 3, (3 gets you runner length mods) think stock GT40 intake is 170cfm.... So how is that a waste of time? Anyone can chuck expensive parts at an engine and build HP it takes an engine builder to build HP with OEM parts.
@robertvaughan6125
@robertvaughan6125 9 ай бұрын
Did you deck it at 8.7?
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 9 ай бұрын
This is a stock factory 5.0 short block all original
@Streetfox5.0
@Streetfox5.0 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you appreciate that I'm trying to do a better job with these videos
@chrisfisher4843
@chrisfisher4843 2 жыл бұрын
What camshaft??
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry just seen this comment it was an N51 Anderson cam
@MrGsxr10001
@MrGsxr10001 7 ай бұрын
If ya dont have pics or a video a piece of paper and pencil will work for showing port shapes and basic ideas.
@patrickwendling6759
@patrickwendling6759 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@michaelgiglio1571
@michaelgiglio1571 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍 thats what i talking about.
@hoost3056
@hoost3056 3 жыл бұрын
9s with E7s and a stock bottom? Nitrous No weight Lotta tuning
@slowsbf8892
@slowsbf8892 3 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not that car had all of 15 passes on it to run that number
@brandonknight7240
@brandonknight7240 Жыл бұрын
E7 seems like a waste of time to port becouse theyre to thin walked to match a p head or any TFS or edlebrock any uluminum
@terrygrover6440
@terrygrover6440 Жыл бұрын
These E7 heads have out ran cars with almost every aftermarket head you can think of just put on my son Adam channel grover boys racing and you can see a few cars he ran against, thanks for watching
@robertvaughan6125
@robertvaughan6125 9 ай бұрын
​@terrygrover6440 how much for some E7 heads Done up?
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