Meet Agent AOD - Stock Cam, E7 Heads, AOD Trans, Runs 12s

[@TheJMan1K]

Cool ram air setup

[@AmericanThunder]

My 85 GT was a 5-speed, had 4.10 gears and I installed a performer intake(the stock intake has those tiny ports) and dual flowmasters. I wish I still had that car.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

We all have one, or many, cars that got away!

[@markweber7275]

I’ve been preaching the “simple” is more approach for years to my son for years! He won’t listen. You provide an excellent lesson to your viewers, THNK YOU. Great video.

[@black88coupe]

Glad you enjoyed it 👍

[@JohnnyButtons]

Mitch got timeout 😉

[@stickmansgarage9452]

@@JohnnyButtons He’s been behaving quite well for a while now, tho. We have high hopes for the future

[@guidosarducci3047]

Ya put a big smile of my face with this post. Great work in all the right places - Absolutely nothing wrong with a 12. Hope you're still having fun out there.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Fun & smiles are what we’re all about. After The Lost Year we managed to get to the track in ‘21. Reports on that coming up. Agent AOD is getting prepped for a new assault on the 1320 in 2022

[@black88coupe]

Trying to have fun. If it’s not fun then why bother!

[@robperkins2674]

very cool

[@black88coupe]

Thanks

[@dionpiazza4672]

You are literally the most helpful mentor. Thank you

[@persico9017]

Put a 6R80 in it and go elevens 😉

[@centralbears3010]

I putting this combination in a 63 fairlane wagon. 1989 5.0 with AOD. Intake and 4100 carb. Call me stupid but I'm wanting a cruiser / daily. Give me some pointers......tell UTG hello

[@black88coupe]

Start with a quality shift kit in the AOD. Trans-Go makes a nice kit. With the O/D you can get away with a little more rear gear. 1st gear in the AOD’s are horrible. Maybe a small stall converter too if you want. Call me paranoid but I always run a big trans cooler and plumb it separate from the radiator.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Listen to Agent AOD He knows from what he speaks Sounds like a cool cruiser We love wagons here

[@fadedvet]

Hey would u mind sharing were he got the stall from thanks

[@JDOGGK]

hi awesome video, I have 86 Mustang with a aod transmission, it has a 351w built everything works really well but the transmission shift points, when I shift from first to 2nd it almost automatically shifts when I'm in 2nd to 3rd and feels like it kinda drags, do u know what I can do to get the have 2nd to 3rd rev out longer so I can use it's full potential?

[@black88coupe]

Have you tried putting the shifter back into first as soon as you make the 1-2 shift? After that when you are ready to make the 2-3 shift you just put it into drive to achieve the 2-3 shift. Or maybe the TV cable needs adjusting?????

[@echota23]

An AOD transmission shift points can by adjusted by the kick down cable.

[@michaelgiglio1571]

Like the way you think Stick man.

[@roooal5533]

Wish I could take my 1991 to you .

[@black88coupe]

Get out the wrenches and start making mods. Nothing really exotic on this car and most of it was done in my garage. Make it happen! Oh yeah, have fun too!

[@terrygrover6440]

Good job we been 10 s all with stock block and ported e7 heads ported by us grover boys racing look at adam grover green gangster 9s on a little nitrous.Good job guys nice to see someone doing good with stock parts.

[@black88coupe]

Thank you. We are trying our best with what FOMOCO gave us.

[@anthonyg6221]

I have an 84 vert with a 5 speed and an 89 GT with an AOD. Both were purchased as AOD cars. I converted the 84 to a 5 speed. I gotta tell you that my 89 with 3k stall converter will really get it. To match the performance of the AOD with the manual, I have to be really hard on the clutch, trans, etc. An AOD with a stall (And good tires) is a force to be reckoned with from a dig.

[@paulnoone8103]

im not biased either way even though i have a c4 , but one thing you would not identify on the dyno is the power output 700-1000ft above sea level in comparison to the c4 run at 600ft below. Altitude will make a difference.

[@black88coupe]

If I were to have built the car from scratch with the intention of racing it I would have gone with a c4. I’m using the AOD because A- Thats what was in the car and B- I like the challenge. Density Altitude is a MAJOR factor with how this particular car runs at the strip given the nature of how stock the motor is. My favorite times of racing season is the beginning and the end since thats when we see the best conditions for quick ET’s. 👍

[@gatsbyravens5243]

He should remove the sun roof glass and put a fiberglass cover to save even more weight. Unless the track wont allow it...

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Interesting thought. Might just have to replace the roof skin completely. It’s not exactly pristine

[@black88coupe]

The roof skin is being replaced to get rid of the sunroof. I hate sunroofs and t-tops because sooner or later they will start leaking.

[@heyitsdakota678]

Good ole southgate Michigan!

[@black88coupe]

Downriver life

[@heyitsdakota678]

@@black88coupe haha hey! It’s you. Love the fox brother! Would love to see it in person. I’m currently building 2 foxes with my dad (his name is mitch as well) But it would be amazing to see it all in person and learn some stuff!

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Thanks for watching! Be ironic if my stalker got one of his own. Lol

[@black88coupe]

@@heyitsdakota678 Message me i'm in Wyandotte

[@fadedvet]

What stall and what rear gears ???

[@stickmansgarage9452]

4200 & 4.30

[@fadedvet]

@@stickmansgarage9452 thanks

[@SophiaAphrodite]

Good to see you getting good results. I am putting a 5.0 with an AOD ( stall and shift kit) in my Ranger, GT40p heads, ported, Stage 3 cam, 8.8 with 3.55. I am lighter than the mustangs by a few hundred lbs so I do expect it to be " lively"

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Sounds like a cool truck. Let us know how it runs

[@black88coupe]

Sounds like it’ll be a good time.👍👍👍

[@oscarvillarreal8951]

Is your foxbody transmission a stock transmission? What gears do you have in it?

[@black88coupe]

No it’s not stock. It’s been modified in a few different ways. I’ll list the mods: 1- 4,200 stall converter 2- SilverFox fixed pressure manual valvebody with a trans brake. 3- slight mods to the oiling system just to add a little extra insurance against premature wear and tear. 4- Solid input shaft. Ran it this way for quite awhile. Recently added a better gear set out of a 4r70w trans. Unfortunately, We haven’t really gotten a chance to take maximum advantage of the better 4r7Ow gearing as other things were giving us problems. Hoping to reap those rewards in 2022. Hope this helps.

[@oscarvillarreal8951]

@@black88coupe do you drive it daily?

[@black88coupe]

@@oscarvillarreal8951 I did.

[@oscarvillarreal8951]

@@black88coupe does it over heat on you with the stuff you did? Because your car seems stock and can be driven daily with the mods you did. Just curious?

[@black88coupe]

@@oscarvillarreal8951 No issues overheating. I have a good radiator and a really good water pump. No stock stuff but nothing exotic either.

[@timsacco6g694]

Had a 92 LX 5.0 there is nothing like the "click" sound the door makes when opening it one of the most reliable cars I have ever owned

[@black88coupe]

Tim Sacco6g 👍👍👍👍

[@shoDOHC]

89 GT here..yep I know the click. First car I ever owned back in 1998. Still have it.

[@marcuslocklear7026]

Tim Sacco6g the last great muscle car with those door latches

[@bluesky-ud9wg]

The Click is the Plastic Door Striker ring missing. Replace the Striker...

[@maurovillarreal2037]

What gears do this fox body have? and did you at least put Heavy duty valve springs on the heads or roller rockers? Because 12s and everything stock sounds farfetched.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

It’s not impossible for a stock 5.0 valvetrain to run in the 12s under the right conditions (at or below sea level air).

[@black88coupe]

The car ran it's best pass (12.68) with 4.30's. It has 4.56's now in preparation for future upgrades. It does have 1.7 Cobra rockers and I also did replace the worn- out stock valve springs because after 120,000 miles and 6,000rpm shifts- the valves were floating. The car went 12.89 with stock E7 heads/ intake spacer/ electric water pump/ roller rockers. When I put on the modified E7 heads it went a best of 12.68.

[@young11984]

Love seeing stock engines being optimized to their full potential, did that to mine before deciding to go turbo but its still a stock long block with good valve springs (due to valve float above 5psi) roller rockers and billet timing set (stock iron cam gear cracked and caught it having erratic timing). Going back and watch all the videos on the car later today, likely going to do my dads 85 GT build similar.

[@black88coupe]

Glad you like it.

[@gregwilliams4380]

I'm all about the 5.0!! I had a 1993 Cobra! I took the motor out at 55k, Put forged crank, rods and TrickFlow dome pistons which I believe were made by Aris I think. A Comp Cams XE282 Cam, TrickFlow stage 3 ported heads, and matching TrackHeat intake. ProM 77 mass air system, 36lb injectors, to a Holley 75mm throttle body. 3.73 gears, factory for awhile World Class T5 but upgraded to a new set of internals that we're hardened. The heads were shaved as well and the compression came in right at 11.1 Of course I range race gas or some kind of booster to let it run hard. I ran 11.70's on motor and over also ran a beat of 10.49 at 132mph!! The car could cut 1.40's 60ft on pump NA gas!

[@stickmansgarage9452]

👍 Thanks for watching Greg!

[@dennisrobinson8008]

Sweet

[@deanstevenson6527]

Michigan Mitch in time out excellent ....

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Always some kinda Mitchuation

[@KrisGreenhillsGarage]

This video popped up in my feed for the first time in years. What happened to this channel? Did he change channel names or just stop making videos? Hopefully nothing bad happened.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Nothing bad happened. Other than life 👍

[@KrisGreenhillsGarage]

@stickmansgarage9452 good to hear. Just hoping we would've gotten more. Have a good one.

[@FireItUpGarage]

Great project.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Thanks for watching!

[@black88coupe]

Thanks glad you like it.

[@tevinjohnson9255]

5.0 mustang that’s my favorite car shidd I gotta 86 gt 5.0

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Thanks for watching Tevin!

[@JeffRogosz-zh1zo]

I have a CFI 85 cougar 5.0 I am putting some better parts in it used stuff mostly i am going with E7 heads and ditching the E5 with a 122.00 dollar weiend copy 4bbl intake summit cam ßhorty headers xpipe AJE kmember and a 600 holley poeting theE7 heads doingthis on a budget

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Weight reduction is your friend More rear gear will help get the mass moving & is still drivable thanks to overdrive. Enjoy it!

[@black88coupe]

Heck yeah!

[@1993reefblue]

Its actually pretty common to hit high 12s with stock hci and some weight reduction if you've been around these cars a lot. The power is there with better gearing and some suspension.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Absolutely, the power is there in the oem pkg. Putting it to the ground is the key. Why build more power for any car if your suspension can’t handle what you already have? A good foundation is the place to start. Maximizes every future mod

[@black88coupe]

Bran Sho Much easier with a T5 than an AOD.

[@1993reefblue]

@@black88coupe Very true, You'll need gears and a converter for sure.

[@oscarvillarreal8951]

@@stickmansgarage9452 you think it's a good idea to have a k-member to reduce weight on the suspension or its bad for the car on the long run? Curious about your thoughts?

[@robeddy3722]

That's what made these cars so popular when they were new. A guy could buy the car brand new on Friday and by Saturday afternoon have it in the low 13's--high 12's. (Timing 13 degrees, removed engine air intake silencer, Flowmaster cat back, M&H Racemasters and some lower control arms would get you there)

[@romans828.]

This is why my 85 gt stomps the crap out of just about all challengers. I tell people it's rarely about cubic inches but it's ALWAYS about weight. This is why people hate 5.0's

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Right on Mr Bob. Or may I just call you Bob?

[@kimmorrison9169]

But you can make that 5.0 SCREAM!

[@patrickspringer6534]

Uncle Tony sent me. I hope this channel blows up to 100,000 subscribers by Christmas.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Patrick Springer Me too, man! Me too

[@gpt5002]

No offense to the other channels but I just bashed ppl saying things that were way off. 600hp 302 runs 12?? No. N/a at that. A 380 hp fox can run 12's. One guy has a newerish cobra.. complain about noise but no show.. he's adding heads etc.. he doesn't realize his 5 speed auto with the rear end was built for mid power and fuel economy. He's gonna add power to a low ratio trans that will break. Any 350 hp car under 3700lbs should move. Period. Maybe not 12's but dang near close

[@TheRobertflanary]

What's up with the cold air intake? Where is the mass air?

[@black88coupe]

TheRobertflanary It’s speed density so it doesn’t utilize a MAF meter.

[@TheRobertflanary]

@@black88coupe I figured but where did they hide it.

[@black88coupe]

TheRobertflanary With the motor still being so stock in nature I never saw the benefit in converting it to Mass Air. Remember, This car was never intended to be a race car. It was setup to be a nice driver/ cruiser.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

No MAF Sensor. It’s Speed Density Stock factory cam. Runs fine on SD

[@dannpd1955]

Saw you on Uncle Tony's and subbed. Im glad I did. Thanks.

[@hotrodray6802]

🔔👍👍👍👍👍😎😎😎😎

[@hotrodray6802]

YeeeeeeHaaaaaw!!!!

[@darkman8022]

Damn my first stang i bought in 85 was the same car love the carb back in the 80’s when you drove a fox 5.0 or the z-28 you learned how to really drive

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Thanks for watching Dark Man!

[@sambinogreat]

hell yeah

[@black88coupe]

Glad you like it. 👍

[@edspencer7121]

Uncle Tony gave up his bus pass to me just to get here. Just subbed yours channel. Looking forward to learning more abouts AODs n foxes. If yous catch my drift!

[@TheLukaCeeChannel]

This is going to be good. Only problem is. Its going to get me to want to swich directions with my 88 GT from setting it up for road racing to drag racing. Thank a bunch!! 😉 Subbed

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Pick one (both are fun) or build a no budget drag car out of leftovers and borrowed parts. Pretty easy to do. Either way, shoot it so we can share the fun with the viewers

[@johnbaker3843]

Preach on brother !

[@black88coupe]

John Baker Doing our best. Thanks for watching.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Welcome John!

[@muskyelondragon]

Very cool project 👍

[@black88coupe]

Musky Elon Thank you

[@seanraymotorsports2960]

Man that’s really impressive I’m trying to get my stock foxbody in the low 13’s it’s hard I got a 14.2 @98 2.2-60 9.2 1/8. With stock gears but not sure if there stock I’m running at 6k in 3rd crossing the 1/4 I’m thinking it’s 3.55’s. But stock heads/cam/street tires/75mm maf stock tb full exhaust electric fans race crank pulley. I believe with slicks and upper n lower controls I can dip into a mid to upper 13. I’ll keep tuning to get it into the low 13’s

[@black88coupe]

Sean Ray Thanks. Keep at it and focus on getting the car to work consistently. Then you can chip away at the details.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

It’s all about getting the power to the ground. That’s the gospel we preach around here. You have enough power to run low 13s unless you race at super high elevations

[@seanraymotorsports2960]

@@stickmansgarage9452 so I recently raced my car I’ve installed 4.11’s with a Yukon rear diff explorer intake with a 1”spacer BAMA chip. And upper n lowers so previously I was 2.2-60’. 9.2-1/8. 14.2-1/4.. with my mods I went a best of 1.9-60’. 9.0-1/8. 14.0-1/4.. it seemed like it ran out of power on the big end my mph was the same as stock.. and I also have a b cam now.. I was basically 2tenths faster. Was thinking it would go low 13’s I was thinking about getting new 19lbs injectors and a fuel pressure regulator and a 255lph fuel pump thinking that might wake it up.. but I’m also thinking about junking the efi and going carburetor do you think it would be faster going carb if adjusted right? Or try to get the efi straightened out? I’m in the cross hairs of what’s the best choice thanks for your input

[@benjaminlavallee6168]

My brother 8:26 1/8 mille bone stock mustang 2 step slick power sterigne comdaned cold air intake 355 gear . Kyb chock 🏁💯🏁🏁🏁💯🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟😊😊😊😊

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Traction & gears. All cars need traction. Most benefit from gears

[@jpp9846]

What part of Michigan?

[@black88coupe]

J PP Detroit area

[@jpp9846]

@@black88coupe ok, was hoping you were closer, I'm up near Lapeer 👍

[@stickmansgarage9452]

J PP At least you still have a dragstrip The Dirty D has been gone too long

[@jpp9846]

@@stickmansgarage9452 yes, I hear it's nice and all redone too. I haven't been out there this year.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Gotta get out there man! And bring a friend. Preferably someone who has never been. We need to keep dragstrips alive. For the children!

[@gpt5002]

That's what makes you different (special)

[@black88coupe]

We’re trying buddy. Thanks for watching.

[@jorgejimenez8014]

He forgot to mention hes using electric water pump and also took off most accessories/bracket which reduces weight and ideally less drag on motor. That would have been good to mention.

[@black88coupe]

Jorge Jimenez The video tells a lot if you really take a look at the car as a whole. Definitely not 100% bone stock. But like I said it really is a junk motor I bought off Craigslist.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Jorge, the video was already long, man! We’ll get into more detail as we go along

[@manbearpig2164]

Didn't get to see it drive

[@stickmansgarage9452]

You can watch & listen to “The Buckboard” on a recent road trip in the Agent AOD Mid Winter Ride Along video, here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bomlgnSXbsh3qsU

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Thanks for watching!

[@jonmarsh9029]

More info on the headlights, thanks

[@jonmarsh9029]

Poly as in plastic correct? Never seen them in all my years, any chance you would sell a set ?

[@stickmansgarage9452]

I apologize Jon, I forget the years they were used. Mitch will chime in as soon as he’s free. Thanks for watching

[@jonmarsh9029]

Stick Man's Garage no problem I’m just interested in finding a set, thanks

[@jonmarsh9029]

Stick Man's Garage maybe he’ll chime in , Mike are they completely poly or just lens ? I found some led that are poly lenses with metal housings

[@4head210]

I would like to get in contact with you about my fox. I have some questions

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Thanks for watching! Do you have an AOD car. What does it run? Feel free to ask questions here. Mitch will chime in here also

[@TinManKustoms]

Uncle Tony said to stop by. Glad I did keep up the good work.

[@bluebeastsrt]

😂This is absolutely the most stupid title to a video ever. Why is the word stock mentioned at all?

[@ridermak4111]

If someone wanted to start from scratch and search for an old Fox body, doesn’t the notch back body (with the short trunk lid). weigh about 150 lbs. less than the hatchback?

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Maybe not a full 150 lbs, but they’re lighter, stiffer, work better and look good. Get one! Then tell us about your project

[@foxfordcatguy2283]

They're harder to find.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Finding any clean model from the 80s is harder nearly 40 years later, but you still find 4 Cyl coupes that make good foundations. We’ll be featuring some original 80s muscle cars to show how they came from the factory

[@clintway116]

@@foxfordcatguy2283 and getting pricey

[@bryantcurtis2665]

I’d like the 5.0 Mustang. It was the only thing going in the 1980s. So many parts for it nowadays. I heard the LX rather than the GT and cheaper insurance premiums

[@FoxSlow]

Along with most of the people in the comments, uncle tony sent me. Looking forward to more good content 🙌🏼

[@black88coupe]

87Fox5. Slow More on the way. Stay tuned. Thanks.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Thanks man. Welcome to the family

[@creepystank420]

Hell.. I think my 2v might be able to run high 12's now lol

[@black88coupe]

SlpprEatrr 03 Get out and make it happen. Then report back and share the details!👍

[@creepystank420]

@@black88coupe I ran an 8.8 at 81 mph with a 2.1 60'. The mph would be there with better tires and mild suspension work

[@black88coupe]

SlpprEatrr 03 Keep chipping away at it. You’ll get there.👍👍👍

[@stickmansgarage9452]

No reason it can’t! Traction is everything. Second thing: Gears

[@creepystank420]

@@stickmansgarage9452 I have 4.10's

[@carportshenanigans5918]

I was a little disappointed....I was under the impression I was going to see some freak stocker running 12’s. A buddy of mine had an ‘85 coupe with MAF conversion, Longtube headers, a B-cam and 3.73’s(w/T5) and would go 12.70’s all day on ET Streets. No tune, no other engine mods, full interior, no weight loss shenanigans. I drove the car and it was a nice driver. I was hoping this was going to be something like that but with an AOD. A transbrake and super-loose converter don’t exactly qualify an AOD as “stock”.

[@black88coupe]

Carport Shenanigans The motor is the “stock” element. Everything else has been modified- true. ALSO, Keep in mind it’s an AOD which doesn’t have the same gearing as a T5. AOD is also heavier and takes more HP to turn. T5 is naturally going to be faster all other things being equal. Your buddies motor has also been upgraded. This motor is stock except for Cobra rockers and an intake spacer.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Stockers running 12s aren’t freaks They’re smart & efficient, in cars that work. That’s how low hp makes max ET

[@carportshenanigans5918]

@Stick Man’s Garage, I would agree except your version of “stock” is HIGHLY modified. Let’s see the same feat without a transbrake, built trans, super loose converter, full suspension and with a full interior...can’t be done..:otherwise it would be a “freak”. Would you be a little disappointed if I made and titled a video similarly but you watched just to find out I was spraying a 175 shot from top to bottom?

[@stickmansgarage9452]

You’re taking all the fun out of this, man. The engine is stock. It’s a common term. The rest is self explanatory. There is little to no space to get your attention/explain the details in a thumbnail. No one tried to dupe you. And we aren’t selling anything. This is drag racing. This car is being maximized for that purpose. And we’re sharing for the many who can appreciate & learn from it. Would you feel better to know I have both an efi & a carbed Mustang that both ran in the 12s that were even more “stock” than this car, in terms of interior, suspension, an oem clutch in both, and more? I didn’t think so. You win

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Oh, and let’s not overlook that cars make more power racing at/near or in below sea level conditions. Some guys chose to build more hp to compensate while others reduce weight and/or invest in a suspension that will serve them well now and in the future, when they build an 11 or 10 second combo

[@93_LXcpe]

Keep up the good work Mitch!!

[@stickmansgarage9452]

93lx cpe5.0 Guys a rabid Stocker fan. Mitch is the man!

[@black88coupe]

Im trying buddy. Thank you.

[@93_LXcpe]

Back in the mid 90's between your car and project stocker I read and reread those articles. Still have most of those magazines lol

[@heavenstomurgatroyd7033]

You have a face for radio.......

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Says the 1800s cowboy 🤠

[@heavenstomurgatroyd7033]

It's a joke! When I was born the doctor slapped my mother!......😎 (don't start any riots).

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Easy Rodney. Don’t pop a gasket! I was joking too. Cowboy emoji is smiling. Which ain’t easy these days!

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Thanks for the laugh. I needed it

[@trailerparkcryptoking5213]

“It’s stock!” Yet he bought it off Craigslist and doesn’t know the history? WTF?

[@stickmansgarage9452]

It’s been apart enough to know the internals are indeed stock, oem parts

[@black88coupe]

True story bro.

[@lealperformance779]

I got a aod tci street fighter trans. What stall do you recomend

[@stickmansgarage9452]

That depends on many factors. Street car? Street/strip? Drag only? Have you eliminated the convertor lockout on 3rd gear? What cam? What rear gears? Just to name a few

[@lealperformance779]

@@stickmansgarage9452 cam,heads stock edelbrock intake with Holley 600 vacuum secondary, bbk headers, 373 gears ,coilovers subframe connectors. Tci trans has a stock stall. Detent cable works on the carb. Tci tech's told me it don't need to be connected because of the valve body it has. I want a low 13sec street car quite to beat those ls crap trucks. Oh I got extreme drag radials too

[@lealperformance779]

Manual rack underdrive pulleys and short belt only alternator water pump and crank too.

[@lealperformance779]

Oh and new nitrous Express system

[@stickmansgarage9452]

The nitrous could be the biggest factor in all of this. But first, Agent AOD ran low 13s in similar trim (4.10 gears) with a 2600 stall convertor and was street driven. Even to the track. It’s hard to know what your comfort level would be driving a loose convertor, but for best all around performance - getting the engine into the power band quickly and dealing with a nitrous shot of 100-150 hp - while maintaining decent street manners - I’d say 2500 stall minimum. 3500 maximum if you’re aggressive and mostly drive local. I’d consult the convertor guys about how much nitrous certain models will withstand - both from a stall perspective and if the unit will stay together. A cheap convertor can live naturally aspirated, but that’s risky with the nitrous. Be careful about activating the juice with less than full throttle (secondaries wide open) and under 3000 rpm with the 3.73 gears. You may have to change the vac secondary spring to make them open sooner on the juice. I’d feel better if you had a double pumper. I’m guessing it’s a Performer/P-RPM intake?

[@scottyjones27]

Kool machine!!

[@black88coupe]

Scotty Jones Thank you. Glad you enjoy it.

[@MMGA]

Only 12s, im hoping mine will run mid 11s or better heads cam intake i guess we will see BTW UTG Sent Me, See you Around 🔴🇺🇸🔧👍

[@black88coupe]

SleeperLX Stay tuned. More to come.👍

[@stickmansgarage9452]

SleeperLX Tell us what you’re building The right HCI combo will easily run mid 11s or better. Hopefully our 84 will do just that

[@butchrubright1801]

great vid

[@black88coupe]

butch r Thank you

[@ljluke5669]

Hey Stick Man’s Garage, Luke here from Australia 🇦🇺 I’m using my mates KZbin account to subscribe till I get my own. But Absolutely Awesome episode i can’t wait to see the future of your channel will really inspire a lot of car enthusiasts to get out there and work on they’re cars the proper way with they’re brains not a cheque-book! Uhm I just have one question for you though what is the weight box for!??

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Amelia Austen Yo, Luke! Weight box helps adjust 50/50 weight distribution for better weight transfer on launch. Also keeps tires planted during a run. More traction, better ET! We’ll talk more about it in future videos

[@ljluke5669]

Oh that’s awesome thank you Stick Man’s Garage! That makes a lot of sense but if you were doing racing not drags \ example, our v8 supercars/ Bathurst, would A weight box help them? I’m really looking forward to watch more of your videos! 😊

[@ljluke5669]

Oh and sorry but I’m not sure what ( ET ) is?

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Corner weights matter in all types of racing, especially road/oval. Too much/too little weight on one tire, or side of the car, will screw up everything. You guys have some of the baddest cars on earth. Big fan

[@stickmansgarage9452]

ET = Elapsed Time in drag racing

[@lskiller1903]

Excellent information can't wait till the next installment thanks.!!!!!!

[@stickmansgarage9452]

John Laws Whole team (both of us) is editing as I type this. I gotta get back to work! Thanks man

[@SVTAdamSVT]

Very cool. Always great to see people racing smart instead of throwing tons of power at a car to make it fast...

[@Spiritcr1jsher]

I'm sure he has tons of spare parts for when it breaks ..... people throw "tons" of power sometimes because they like having ac , safety, nice ride , looks over stripping the car down and having it a nightmare to drive around when not racing .

[@stickmansgarage9452]

This car is an 85. Purchased as a roller EFI engine & harness installed. For those asking

[@FluffbucketGarage]

What’s are the 60ft times?

[@black88coupe]

Trevor Lemon 1.595 best ever. Low 1.6’s normally.

[@stanglincoln1659]

Wow I love this channel already looking forward to your next video

[@twportre8809]

What do you mean nothing spectacular? 1985... STOCK FORGED PISTON 5.0L HIGH OUTPUT MOTOR FROM FACTORY. That's a whole lot to talk about. While people spending $1,100 making their blocks with forged pistons, we pulling from junkyards and installing v2's on a pure stock block running 15-18psi with nothing more than changing injectors and turning the distributor. Shit these motors weren't "stock" from the factory hahaha

[@black88coupe]

TW Portre 🤘🤘🤘

[@stickmansgarage9452]

They were The New Stock. Forged pistons, metric rings, topped with injection. Didn’t hurt being backed by a 3.35 1st geared 5-speed

[@PaulWootenwrfcustomsdiecast]

uncle tony sent me looking forward to more content I can't afford the big ones so I collect the little ones

[@michaelgiglio1571]

Hey stick man, i think those gt40, gtp heads are shocking to have the chambers over to one side that much. I think the E7,s are better. Even if the iintake ports are smaller, i can still have bigger valves. VHSIm also about to kindy shape my E6 heads, i can make the chambers now i want them. These are for mi XR 8 ute. Why is every one talking about the gt40 ugly heads., i thought only Gm did stupid things like that. What do you think. Mike

[@stickmansgarage9452]

I think all iron oem sbf heads don’t get enough credit. The E7 may be comparatively small, but they’re balanced. Hard to beat up on the GT40s for their time. Technology has come a long way since then.

[@patrickf4692]

I flowed them all in the same day on a calibrated machine. E6 124 IN volume--Flowed 154/116 E7 124 IN volume-Flowed 162/124 GT40 150 IN volume-Flowed 200/150 There is absolutely NO COMPETITION for which is the undisputed best late model head.

[@patrickf4692]

I know it's a old comment.....but so flagrantly wrong about all the heads mentioned and conclusion met... I own multiple sets of all these heads, and still have a new in box set of GT40 Cobra that were marketed as GT40 "high flow" iron heads. I don't think you understand the differences clearly.....I'll keep this short. No SBF head has ever moved the "chamber" and certainly not by an inch....Think about that for a sec...GT40P did move the spark plug angle, the heads were an attempt to clean up the last SBF while it still sold very well deep into Overhead Valve replacement. Now, as to your assessment on E6 heads...The valves are measurable deeper in the chamber making the shrouding problem that much worse. Reason the true flat top pistons were not compatible with other heads without notches......The swirl concept was not a strength for performance, it was for cleaner smog. Ford disagreed SO much it was a one year Mustang option. The 85 GT heads were E5 castings...exactly the same as 87+ HO E7's with a smaller chamber hence production number change..... E6 combined the smog swirl, terrible shrouding, and abysmal flow. Data point just to show how bad....1986 Capri (mercury's mustang) switching ONLY stock E6's for stock E7''s gained 34 RWHP I only did a after dyno for tuning and nobody could believed the E7 a real performance upgrade, only compared to a truly terrible design....That's why NOBODY uses them... I attached the intake volumes and flow rates above to show not only how much things improved, but why the GT40 series of heads ARE so sought after. My buddies 85 GT Switched out his E5 heads and GT 4bbl for stock GT40 heads and stealth intake. So he started with better heads than E6's. and picked up an unreal 78 HP.... Imagine the gain over your personal favorite E6. If these sound unrealistic, go look on message boards and see how over and over its repeated. This should solve the problem you've experienced but probably not stated about "Why is my E6 headed UTE getting outrun by model T's? You're welcome, you now have Ported wheel chaulks......that don't carry scrap value. I really hope you didn't pay for them....

[@timoy4988]

Blue oval baby... blue oval! Cant wait to see the new channel evolves 👍👍

[@RB66_]

Came across the video with you and Evan with Uncle Tony yesterday. Great stuff. Glad to see you still doing it. Hope all is well, Rune

[@stickmansgarage9452]

RUNE!! We talk about you all the time. Glad you found us. Keep in touch, man

[@RB66_]

Stick Man's Garage I’m subscribed so I’ll be watching. Too bad Etown is shut down. Miss you guys. Good luck with the channel!

[@DanTheMailman330]

12s with only a 102 trap is gettin it of the line, boy!

[@black88coupe]

Daniel Lindy Thanks. Trying real hard to get that ET down.

[@TheMattc999]

My 93 notchback ran 10flat all day long with an aod, now I'm driving a 98 ranger with a little 306, it's doing mid 11's, but this one's a 5speed, just because it's fun.

[@1stockcam]

TheMattc999 took me a lot of boost to get mine into the 12s. 4000 lbs fights back

[@bcarss1970]

video starts at 2:35

[@roostercogburn1984]

Cheers from Aussie Neil. Loved the vid man, heaps of great info.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Rooster Cogburn Thanks, we’ll keep it coming. Love Australian cars. Hardcore!

[@JustLikeParadise]

Uncle Tony sent me. Have a 35K mile 92 in Wild Strawberry and cant wait to use some of your secrets.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Welcome, and thanks! Hope we can be of service. What have you already done to your 92?

[@BoomerZoomer62]

Stick Man's Garage Maximum Motorsport Complete rear suspension and subframe connectors. Shorty headers and exhaust.

[@darkman8022]

Its not the original motor 85’s were carbureted 86 started the fuel injected era for 5.0

[@black88coupe]

Dark Man Car was bought as a rolling chassis minus motor/ trans/ wiring.

[@darkman8022]

black88coupe cool love the car bro

[@black88coupe]

Dark Man Glad you like it. Its a mutt made of leftover parts.👍

[@darkman8022]

Still a fox

[@black88coupe]

Dark Man Frankenstein FOX

[@fomobros2207]

This is exciting. My brother is trying to do something similar with his AOD speed density car. Great vid!

[@black88coupe]

Ray Stang Stay tuned. Doing our best for the AOD crowd.

[@SargentEdgedTools]

Can't believe that launch at that rpm on those tires, badass!

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Badass is right. There’s a Radial Revolution going on and we’re going to be talking about it

[@RPJs-Cuisine]

Glad ur video/channel popped up! I will be subscribing and delving into u guys. Foxbody 4 Life! Whoever doesn’t like that can go to hell! Hail to the Windsor!

[@black88coupe]

Jody Klintworth Hope you enjoy it. We are working on more content so keep checking back. 👍👍👍

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Welcome to our humble temple of hp Jody!

[@mwright2367]

You can learn something every day if some people just look

[@stickmansgarage9452]

m wright Absolutely! That’s what I mean by look past the badge. I learned from all types of cars when reading magazines as a kid. You can apply what others do to whatever you drive. What are you driving/racing?

[@thorengland4093]

Ty cobb

[@denniswingfield3227]

Happy National Stick Shift Day Stick Man! Great video!

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Dennis Wingfield Nice profile pic, Chief! Got your tux for the Gearbangers Ball? Oh wait, that happens here on the channel. Well, you can wear it while you watch. And watch... And watch...

[@johngetman1816]

Uncle Tony told me to check out your channel & Uncle Tony won’t steer me in the wrong direction. I dig your style Stick Man. I subbed & will stick around.

[@ilsl04]

I don't believe the engine is stock. I have 657whp and best ever was 11.2 lol

[@black88coupe]

Jalani Wilson The motor is about as stock as it gets. Everything else- well thats a different story.

[@primalscream46]

657w in a mustang?

[@black88coupe]

primalscream46 no

[@ilsl04]

@@primalscream46 03 cobra

[@primalscream46]

Take in mind this weighs a lot less. Also, you should be a lot faster with 657 wheel. Not just power, drving skill, launch, proper tires and suspension. Here is a comparison, a friends 04 mach, with 100+ less wheel horsepower than your cobra, runs 10.30s. Full weight.

[@boostedsaleen6146]

I miss my black 84 gt , after reading about project pitbull in 90s I knew I wanted one. I have had a number of foxes since then. I now own a 87 saleen number 65 it has a vortech and heads , cam , intake , ect.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Pitbull was a blast. Everyone should have a car like that to enjoy

[@boostedsaleen6146]

@@stickmansgarage9452 I miss the fun ford weekends of the 90s and early 00s. My buddies would race street outlaw , street renegade , mod motor , top truck , trophy stock. I would run true street when I could it was fun times and best years to own a fox.

[@Novi347]

What the average DA? That's one of the biggest factor to running good times. It's not gonna happen here in the desert air with a DA of 5000+

[@stickmansgarage9452]

You are correct, sir. Many of the runs between 12.80-13.80 were run between 800-2000’, iirc. Cars all time bests were recorded close to sea level or below. @black88coupe?

[@black88coupe]

@@stickmansgarage9452 Correct on the avg. DA. GREAT question.

[@hmackprotection1]

Well Done Mitch 👌🏾

[@black88coupe]

T U Thanks sir. More to come.

[@gpt5002]

Don't say your basic btw

[@scottk0623]

Great job, glad Tony sent us to you.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Any friend of UTG is a friend of ours

[@joenobody2580]

Ok slick so wheres the time slip video

[@black88coupe]

Joe Nobody What would you like to see in particular? Let us know.

[@rthawknatanabah1759]

Real talk.... backyard blue print 😀

[@black88coupe]

rthawk natanabah More info to come.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

That’s what we’re all about. Our honesty sometimes is met with skepticism, but we understand why

[@kentuckykuntreekiddkustoms8590]

Uncle Tony sent me here!!! Keep the awesome content coming. Much love from Kentucky

[@Waltergoodboy]

Really? Where does stock end and modifications begin. I expected to see a lot of funny comments. You do remember this year STOCK ran 15s at best 91mph? 🤔

[@black88coupe]

Boris “Stock” is definitely open to interpretation.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Yes. But 200-ish hp is enough to run low-mid 13s with traction and a driver mod. It’s about using the hp you have

[@Waltergoodboy]

What are you talking about? Did this car roll off the assembly line running 12s? You had to add after market parts and remove factory ones to achieve this....that is the definition of MODIFY! I'm using the definition of stock 99.9% of people use. It's ok to title the video " slight mods to get 12s out of an 85 GT". just like my girlfriend has stock B cup tits but the silicone makes the stock skin into DD ones

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Talking about power to weight and traction dude, not your girls plastic surgery. (You accept that modification but not these? Very open minded.) The oem hp rating of the 85 and 87-93 5.0 is plenty to make a stock Mustang run well into the 13s, and even into the 12s in reasonable air, with traction and a good driver. That was established in the 1980s. By more than one of us. Magazine & factory performance tests of that era rarely reflected a cars true potential. And I never paid good money to race my car & spin the tires. I paid for traction & a timeslip. So using slicks or good dot tires was a wise approach. Hell, it made me modestly famous for a good 10 minutes. And while I love a good statistic, I politely disagree with your 99.9% and how they use the term “stock.” My experience completely disagrees. Guess I know all the wrong racers

[@Waltergoodboy]

@@stickmansgarage9452 so you're claiming my completely stock 86 with 7300 miles only requires good traction and good air to run "well into the 12s". Ok dude. Respond to me with a new video showing this. I don't want your claims. The car in your video didn't just have these two tricks. Sorry 3 including the amazing driver who can shave 3 seconds off. I await your proof. Respectfully

[@ArthurSperotto]

Holy crap, you gotta teach Uncle Tony how to get that video quality!! Haha... I love the premise of this series, I can't wait to hear all about it. I also love to build with my brain, not my pocket (especially because my pocket is empty), and that's the approach I have with my '71 Dart. Also, just wanna mention I'm subscriber #640. I wanna look back at this comment when you're at the tens of thousands.

[@stickmansgarage9452]

Arthur Sperotto High tech explanation: Camera tracks your movements. I moved close, background blurred so I went with it. Empty pockets motivate creative thinking

[@adam0bt]

hopefully i can apply all this to my sn

[@stickmansgarage9452]

adam0bt Cars are cars. Physics is physics. Drag racing is fun. We’ll fix you right up dude

[@adam0bt]

@@stickmansgarage9452 the sn95 shares a ton in common with the fox so it's apples to apples. And I'm starting almost stock so this series will be great for me.

[@79tazman]

Damn I love that launch with the front wheels in the air that's killer

[@black88coupe]

79tazman Thank you.