How To Harness A Horse With Breast Plate And Collar (And Hitch To A Gig, Cart)

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WAY OUT WEST with Sandra and Tim

WAY OUT WEST with Sandra and Tim

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@amandalarsen8807
@amandalarsen8807 9 жыл бұрын
As a harness trainer, I found this video incredible useful! My novice students found your video uncomplicated, easy, and very good narrated. Your voice is easy to understand, even for those not good at English. You explain every piece of harness in a very comfortable voice, and so that it is easier to understand. Thank you very much! And also: What a beautiful horse and happy dogs!
@amandalarsen8807
@amandalarsen8807 9 жыл бұрын
Another question: Where did you get the bridle?
@sorinasorina6623
@sorinasorina6623 8 жыл бұрын
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@gguyyyu2397
@gguyyyu2397 5 жыл бұрын
Haha im gonna hit 36 mph on my 4 year old filly on tarmac and ye fools wont do anything
@mountaingal5555
@mountaingal5555 6 жыл бұрын
I love how your sweet mare is taking a nap during the harnessing process!
@jordangrendel7788
@jordangrendel7788 19 күн бұрын
Have been searching all horse driving/how to harness videos on KZbin and this is the best one ❤ thank you for explaining everything!
@susangoss3826
@susangoss3826 5 жыл бұрын
I really felt that your explanation and demonstration were one of the most comprehensive and clearly explained better than anyone else I have seen on KZbin! I learned from your video and explanations, and I really love your relationship with your companions and work partners. Deft and gentle handling! Love it!
@abiharkey3807
@abiharkey3807 4 жыл бұрын
You know it’s a great video when someone can look back on this 5 years later and still learn so much! Thank you for this video, it’s great! I’m just now starting to drive my percheron mare and it’s so much fun.
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Hope things go well for you both : - )
@seckhoffable
@seckhoffable 5 жыл бұрын
Who could disparage this cheery, informative video? I especially love the caption next to the dog: "Bob, happy." Let's have way more gentle, thorough work horse trainers and vids.
@marthaanderson2656
@marthaanderson2656 9 жыл бұрын
She is such a fine filly. I know you said, in her breeding, she is calm and easy tempered. However, it is very obvious that her ground work has been exemplary. I have worked with many horses in my lifetime and few of them had manners as fine as demonstrated here.
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
Martha Anderson Thank you Martha. Is it nature or nurture? Quite a lot of both, I think : - )
@ILuvCuntryBoyz
@ILuvCuntryBoyz 9 жыл бұрын
We recently got a driving percheron, and it is my first driving horse. This video helped me immensely in how you explained everything slowly and thoroughly. Thank you very, VERY much!!
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
Autumn Quinn Thanks Autumn : - ) Glad it was a bit useful. Good luck with your Percheron!
@jeanknowles680
@jeanknowles680 8 жыл бұрын
I think this video is a great success. Very, very helpful and well put together, with no excessive chattering, which is refreshing. Thanks
@scott98390
@scott98390 9 жыл бұрын
I sit in front of a computer all day, and while I like my job, sometimes it can be tedious, difficult, or annoying. I live in an apartment in the city, and see a horse only once or twice a year. That said, I must say that your videos are wonderful, and I love them. I could listen to either of you for hours, and your videos are the best breaks I could ever want. Thank you!
@brightpurpleviking
@brightpurpleviking 9 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
Scott Baker Oh, Scott! You've made our day. Thank you.
@rizzt007
@rizzt007 9 жыл бұрын
Agreeeee~
@scoots6251
@scoots6251 8 жыл бұрын
My wife and I are novices at this, but the few years we have spent getting to know our donkeys, and now our mule, have been so rewarding that we have stepped it up to carting and are looking forward to growing into this hobby/form of entertainment. Watching your video has shown me how little we know (how much we need to learn) and we are anxious to follow you in this endeavor. Thank you... and by the way... Flora is gorgeous... and so cooperative... you guys obviously have a wonderful relationship... she is beautiful to watch and the cup of chemistry between you two runneth over... be safe.
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Raul. We're so lucky with the horse and donkeys we have. It feels as if we're all learning together, and they are endlessly patient and tolerant while we figure things out. Good luck with your endeavor too!
@ArgonSpyder
@ArgonSpyder 8 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this video! I've only ever used quick clip harnesses for harness racing, but we're retraining one of our retired guys for pleasure driving! looking at the pleasure harness and trying to read instructions was like reading in another language, this video had everything laid out in such simple, easy, visual terms! thank you thank you thank you!!!
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 8 жыл бұрын
+Doctor Pork Happy to help, Doctor Pork!
@kathrynjennings5513
@kathrynjennings5513 8 жыл бұрын
Your video is clear and shows, clearly, every step for putting on the harness. I needed a refresher for putting on the harness and D. Smucker sent my your link. My horse was so relaxed when I put his harness back on after 10+ years without cart work. Your video helped me do it right.
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 8 жыл бұрын
+Kathryn Jennings so glad it helped : - )
@MissesZitroenchen
@MissesZitroenchen 9 жыл бұрын
I could listen to your clam, soft voice all day long! :)
@AlexandraMBurtt
@AlexandraMBurtt 7 жыл бұрын
What an amazing step-by-step. Thank you very much for your upload, you clearly have a wonderful bond with your cob and know exactly what you're doing. Much appreciated!
@RobertoDonatti
@RobertoDonatti 9 жыл бұрын
This video brought back memories from my childhood! Thank you
@FlannelAcres
@FlannelAcres 9 жыл бұрын
This is very unfamiliar information to me, but so interesting!! I never realized how all of that worked and what is involved in hitching up. Thanks for sharing!
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
Flannel Acres It's all interesting, isn't it?
@2seasea
@2seasea 7 жыл бұрын
I loved your video. It was very straightforward and helpful and you and Flora and your dogs are just charming. I will be sure to check out your other videos.
@gunmetalglitter4060
@gunmetalglitter4060 9 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel today! I have been watching for a bit and have gotten through a few of your playlists. Lots of great content, and I love the cherriness that is in each of them! Thank you so much!
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
Gunmetal Glitter Thanks Gunmetal Glitter - good to have you on board!
@spacebug30
@spacebug30 6 жыл бұрын
I don't even own a horse, or do horseback riding, but I love your channel!
@onedazinn998
@onedazinn998 8 жыл бұрын
Your videos always make me smile :) thanks!
@tstran02
@tstran02 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much for this great video. You did a wonderful job explaining. Can't wait to see your new channel. You have the voice for instructional videos. Love it!
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
tstran02 Thank you, tstran02! It's a bit complicated so we probably confused a few people, but I'm glad you liked it : - )
@tstran02
@tstran02 9 жыл бұрын
WayOutWest Blowinblog The new channel will help a lot, since I will be working with two horses and two mules in the near future. Thank you!
@BlankCanvasArts
@BlankCanvasArts 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. What a well behaved horse. Well done on training! Great video too. You are such a sweet teacher! Lol wish I had that in England when I was learning to ride. I am a military brat and I learned to ride horses in England. My goodness they were so strict in teaching but I believe I learned from the best.
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 7 жыл бұрын
There are probably different approaches that suit some people and horses, but I'd always advocate the gentle, slow approach!
@Begining2013
@Begining2013 9 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so watchable and informative, I've learned so much from them Thank you!!
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
Beginning2013 Thank you, Beginning2013 - actually, so do we!
@fanis488
@fanis488 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the show pleasing video !!! I myself live in Russia. In Siberia. I'll tell you - I really like your approach to life! The Class !!!)))
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
fanis488 Thank you Fanis! And hello from Ireland. It would be so interesting to see more of life in Siberia - are there people like us there? with a few horses and vegetables? You could make videos and show everyone what you do!
@fanis488
@fanis488 9 жыл бұрын
WayOutWest Blowinblog Friends living in the village and keep livestock and garden - I have a lot. Unfortunately I do not have such friends - who photographed on vidio their village life. But one thing I can offer you. In Russia we have a social network "Classmates". There we communicate, show their achievements, share experiences, good friends)))! I am pleased to invite you !!!
@martynvharris3079
@martynvharris3079 9 жыл бұрын
What a lovely gentle girl Flora is, and an excellent and informative video. Will subscribe to your new channel of course. We are moving our boys to Ireland in the next year or so, one retired Clydesdale/cob and two working horses; a Comtois and a coloured cob. Not sure how the Irish soil will cope with the big boys but looking forward to being able to drive them in relative safety - the roads in our part of England are no longer safe for horses.
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
Martyn V Harris yes, I saw that you have a water now. So things are coming together? Horses all packed and ready to go? How exciting!
@maureengallagher1839
@maureengallagher1839 4 ай бұрын
Excellent’ great pace and clear instructions! Thank you🤗
@mikemccann7802
@mikemccann7802 7 жыл бұрын
I am re training a horse to pull a Amish cart with my friend. We are so excited, This help so much thank you!Lily M Age 12
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lily - good luck!
@prairiedog7720
@prairiedog7720 8 жыл бұрын
love the cart , I don't have a horse but wish too someday awesome videos
@Corrupted3rrr
@Corrupted3rrr 8 жыл бұрын
I love you're accent.
@Sofiarivassculptor
@Sofiarivassculptor 9 жыл бұрын
Flora is a pretty girl and very good too. The dog too. Thank you for the video
@mountfields
@mountfields 9 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed, we wish you well, (from Somerset UK)
@thexsoliloquist
@thexsoliloquist 9 жыл бұрын
This is a really great and helpful video! I'm just beginning to volunteer for Riding for Disabled in the harness section, so I won't look like a complete idiot when I begin my training now :)
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
+Charisse Seymour Glad you liked it Charisse. Sounds like an interesting and fun job to take on - well done!
@nicolebeck1062
@nicolebeck1062 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I loved this video. Im just getting started with my Shire Horse!
@johnfarmer1691
@johnfarmer1691 4 жыл бұрын
just found your site, love it
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@SherwoodRobyn
@SherwoodRobyn 8 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! I have a Dartmoor Hill yearling who will look superb in a cart! It's a career I am considering for her. :-)
@weberali2132
@weberali2132 3 жыл бұрын
Sunday morning and I will have the opportunity to horse is. Love me
@diannadiatz1140
@diannadiatz1140 9 жыл бұрын
It is always a delight to watch your videos. I can see that your dogs are both supervisors, making sure you treat Flora well! (lol) I never realized how many steps it takes to get a horse ready to haul a cart, being a "city girl." Your videos are great for children, to teach them a gentle approach to animals. I may not be a work horse trainer, but I love watching you doing work you obviously love. I am always reminded of my favorite animal stories. I always feel I step back in time when I watch your channel. Hope you had a Happy Easter. Flora would look cute in a straw hat with flowers!! She is so sweet! How are the burros doing? (I want to misspell it and say the "burritos" lol... Have a great weekend! Warmest wishes, Dianna
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
Dianna Diatz Burritos! Now there's a plan, Dianna! We could have a small herd of them (or is it a flock?) down by the bees.. and call them home at night with a song.. Yes, I can see it all now! Yum! : - )
@diannadiatz1140
@diannadiatz1140 9 жыл бұрын
How are the burros doing?
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
Dianna Diatz They're great! Slowly building in confidence and settling in. Still a little nervous, but they don't make a fuss now when we pick up their feet or brush them. we'll have to do an update vid!
@diannadiatz1140
@diannadiatz1140 9 жыл бұрын
I am so glad to hear it! They will be cute to see again. You are both so patient and kind with all your animals. They have you trained well (lol). Looking forward to seeing Spring in your videos...Have a great week!! Warmest regards, Dianna
@rebekahbridges-tervydis5054
@rebekahbridges-tervydis5054 6 жыл бұрын
Was Flora a baby in this? She look significantly smaller than normal. Bob, the dog makes me smile.
@Sythe81
@Sythe81 9 жыл бұрын
Amazing work, thank you for showing this to me
@jl431
@jl431 7 жыл бұрын
Hi im 15 and saving up to buy land for a homestead i want to get belgian draft horses and this was very informative thank you mam
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Best of luck!
@cyne
@cyne 9 жыл бұрын
I loved this video and will be looking at more of yours! I'm a beginner driver always looking for education. I noticed at the end when the driver is in the cart and the horse is moving, the traces are loose and swinging, and it looks like the cart is being pulled along by the shafts, not the traces. I wanted to keep watching that, to see if everything came into place or if the driver needed to stop and shorten the traces, but then the video was over so I couldn't see what happened next. I've been taught that the shafts are mostly to hold the cart from tipping forward or back, and to help the horse turn the cart, and that all the pulling is to be done with the traces, so pressure is on the breast collar not on the saddle. So for my education, can you tell me if those traces are too long, or if I just didn't see enough to see that they tightened up after the movie was over? I love your voice, by the way.
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
+Cynthia Eliason Good question, Cynthia. You're right, the traces are for pulling and the shafts are to keep things level. This cart is so light though, that the shafts hadn't pulled through their holders yet to tighten up the traces. Of course, on a slope, or if we were going faster, or for a little longer, they would slide until the traces became tight.
@meehan302
@meehan302 9 жыл бұрын
That was a marvelous Video. I love it. Good luck with work horse training I will check it out. Best wishes. Patrick
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
Patrick Meehan Thank you Patrick!
@lordilluminati5836
@lordilluminati5836 9 жыл бұрын
what a charming little horse :)
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
+patricio torre Yes, she is!
@tropifiori
@tropifiori 7 жыл бұрын
It looks very complicated, but fun.
@Porschesvideos
@Porschesvideos 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you i LOVE your videos and Flora!
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent - good luck!
@مهديالحلو-ه7ث
@مهديالحلو-ه7ث 7 жыл бұрын
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@aroushhala9179
@aroushhala9179 7 жыл бұрын
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@tresiawerinussa4511
@tresiawerinussa4511 5 жыл бұрын
Your live seems beautifull n peacefull, its inspirace me a lot too, thanx, have a nice day,..
@paulmcguire3789
@paulmcguire3789 9 жыл бұрын
I did subscribe to the new channel this will be interesting and informative. Ihave always enjoyed this channel and I know I will enjoy the new one too.
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
Paul Mcguire Thank you very much Paul. Not sure how we're going to find the time to make more, but we're going to try - because it's all so interesting.
@plebo8119
@plebo8119 5 жыл бұрын
Hi there I’m wondering where you got your collar from. I’m looking for a brown collar myself but can’t find one
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 5 жыл бұрын
Tarnsjo Garveri is where we got ours. Good luck
@kooolooo1
@kooolooo1 6 жыл бұрын
My horse looks the same great video
@GothicTrioOfEdwards
@GothicTrioOfEdwards 9 жыл бұрын
So helpful, thank you.
@lauca6969
@lauca6969 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very clear instruction, thank you!
@menotyou5380
@menotyou5380 9 жыл бұрын
WONDERFUL video! Thanks so much for sharing!
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
Vicki Boling Thanks Vicki!
@user-dx2pg8mo1d
@user-dx2pg8mo1d 8 жыл бұрын
Flora, Henry and Winnie are so pretty! I have a cob called Oreo but he's only small but big enough so I can ride him but he's only 2 years old and I have a Shetland called honey and she's a Shetland cross something
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 8 жыл бұрын
You're lucky! I had to wait till I was 30 years old before I got my first horse : - )
@analosada1841
@analosada1841 8 жыл бұрын
Angel Heart lohi
@madforsports1
@madforsports1 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video thank you
@harrybrown1427
@harrybrown1427 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the help
@dariaharruff7025
@dariaharruff7025 3 жыл бұрын
can u do a video about horse driving without a bit and blinkers cuz I would like to see a horse do that please and thank u that would like a lot of fun do u agree?
@h7oslo
@h7oslo 9 жыл бұрын
This is good information to know. Good presentation, Sandra. rc
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
+Rusty Case Thanks, Rusty.
@renewyourmind1815
@renewyourmind1815 8 жыл бұрын
What a great driving video! Your horse is such a sweetheart! I have a question. My mare is 8, I have had her since she was 2 years old, trained her for riding when she was 4, and I have driven her probably 12 times so far. She picks up a trot well, she backs, crosses over well when I ask for a turn, etc. I have a training cart which probably weighs 250-300 pounds, it has car tires on it, and it's made of metal. She does well with it, but I am wondering if a breast collar type pulling harness isn't enough? Do you think she needs an actual pulling collar? In total she is only pulling roughly 550 pounds, when my husband and my son come along with me, including the cart. I also wonder if the cart puts too much strain on her back. Sometimes she tosses her head and that isn't like her. I'm just curious what is going on, because if it isn't the right set up I don't want to drive her in it, sore her, or cause issues for her. I hitch her up the same way you do. She is mutton withered and I'm also curious if maybe the "saddle" isn't the proper shape for her? Please help! I have pictures of her harnessed up so hopefully you can tell me if everything looks good! Thanks so much!
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 8 жыл бұрын
+Jesse James Hiya, I will try to help, but without seeing your set-up it is difficult to be sure about what is going on for your horse (you mentioned that you have photos but there weren’t any attached to your comment?). I assume your cart is a two-wheeler? In that case the horse supports the cart with her back and you need to carefully check how much weight she actually is asked to carry via the shafts. If the cart is front-heavy, it is much more than if the cart has more weight at the back. The best way to check this is to have people sit in the cart and you lift the shafts (no horse hitched to the shafts) - you will feel the difference in weight distribution, according to the people leaning forward or moving to the back of the cart. It generally is a good idea to not give the horse too much weight to carry through the shafts. Have you checked the saddle carefully? Is it pushing on her spine/withers? Is it adjusted tightly or does it move around a lot (this could cause discomfort)? But the head-shaking can have a lot of different reasons. It could be her complaining about discomfort caused by the cart, you are right. But it could also be that she doesn’t like her mouth piece or your way of handling the reins. Or it could be all in her head - my mare starts to shake her head when she gets insecure, nothing will stop it until she feels more relaxed and secure again. A lot of practice and routine helps the horse - get out in the cart as often as you can, even if it is just for 10 minutes, and praise her a lot if she does well or at least tries hard. I hope this helps, and I hope you’ll have lots more fun with your mare and cart!
@benmatthews3732
@benmatthews3732 9 жыл бұрын
Oh wonderful - I love the videos about your horses! Thanks. (Beth)
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
Ben Matthews Thanks Beth!!
@josepeixoto3384
@josepeixoto3384 5 жыл бұрын
So,where does the horse actually pull? the shafts,the traces,where?
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 5 жыл бұрын
Always the traces. The shafts are just there for brakes (and to keep the cart level)
@ridinglessons1605
@ridinglessons1605 8 жыл бұрын
Bob, happy :)
@abqkaza
@abqkaza 7 жыл бұрын
do you roll the cart on to the horse or move the horseback onti the trailer?
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 7 жыл бұрын
The shafts approaching them on both sides and the cart coming up from behind, all at the same time, can be scary for them, so we start off by backing them in. But when they're really used to it, then you can bring the cart up to them.
@KidsPlanetTV
@KidsPlanetTV 8 жыл бұрын
Oh, I love it too!
@ThatSuzanneSchmid
@ThatSuzanneSchmid 9 жыл бұрын
Flora is the kind of animal companion that would let you dress her up in silly hats and floral dresses ... If you were into that sort of thing ;)
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 9 жыл бұрын
***** Don't give Sandra anymore silly ideas!!
@westernharmonyhorses816
@westernharmonyhorses816 6 жыл бұрын
Soooooooo helpful!
@lorefreak94
@lorefreak94 4 жыл бұрын
Why put the collar over the head? There is a buckle at the top of it, unbuckle it and give their neck a "hug" with it then then clip back together. Oh I see the Hames are already locked around the collar. I thought those released and stayed tied to the saddle. To each their own I guess.
@chfgypsy
@chfgypsy 8 жыл бұрын
a very nice video...
@MuhammadKhalid-ch3li
@MuhammadKhalid-ch3li 4 ай бұрын
Gore tay katiyan pa lo before ridding on cart.
@myponyfrodobaggins5908
@myponyfrodobaggins5908 6 жыл бұрын
Do horse carts have to have a swingle tree?
@WayOutWestx2
@WayOutWestx2 6 жыл бұрын
yes they do
@myponyfrodobaggins5908
@myponyfrodobaggins5908 6 жыл бұрын
@@WayOutWestx2 thx!
@coreycipperley9914
@coreycipperley9914 3 жыл бұрын
Hi
@udaygurav6113
@udaygurav6113 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mam👍💐
@nikbalagot7644
@nikbalagot7644 3 жыл бұрын
Bob, we know.
@paulsanders8774
@paulsanders8774 3 жыл бұрын
Work horse trainer
@mohamaddiabi8887
@mohamaddiabi8887 5 жыл бұрын
مقولة مشهورة في الخليج وفي السعودية تحديدا اسمها الحديد اكل اولادنا ... وهناك زعماء عرب فقدناهم بسبب هذا الاختراع ... اتمنى ان تتوقف صناعة السيارات ونعود من جديد لايام عربات الخيول او الدراجات الهوائية ... ما اجمل ان تنتقل من تركيا الى المانيا وانت صائم ... اكتشاف النفط واختراع السيارات تسبب بحرمان الانسان والطبيعة من كثير من الاشياء الاكثر امان واكثر روعة واكثر صحة للبيئة واقل تكلفة ... ان اعظم مرض في التاريخ ممكن لك ان ترثه من امك هو الشعور بان احدهم يلاحقك وانت عليك ان تهرب منه وهو مجرد شعور مريض لا اساس له ولا سبب لوجوده ... العجلة من الشيطان ... لماذا السيارات والقطارات اكثر امان ... يجب ان تتوقف صناعة السيارات الى الابد لا معنى لها ومؤذية جدا للبيئة والانسان ...
@akbarbatcha
@akbarbatcha 6 жыл бұрын
Super vidieos
@O_PORTOMENDES
@O_PORTOMENDES 9 жыл бұрын
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