I actually "featured" some plywood edges when I made a wood "book" for my Dungeons and Dragons game. The plywood edges simulated the pages of a book pretty well!
@TheLovelyMissBeans3 жыл бұрын
That's pretty cool.
@karl_alan3 жыл бұрын
You weren't kidding about having an old iron just for edge banding. That thing looks like it came in a bundle deal with a commodore 64 or the Macintosh classic with the floppy drive built in.
@bobsage49633 жыл бұрын
Hey!! You kids - get off my lawn... 😠
@charlesgerlach70593 жыл бұрын
welcome back have missed your info videos. was looking for how to do this thanks for the video
@oakfat51782 ай бұрын
Thanks for an informative, no-nonsense overview
@nicolasmahdavian17933 жыл бұрын
Another great video for beginners...The exact reason why I started watching your videos a few years back.
@PMichaels3 жыл бұрын
Great video, Steve! You can also use drywall compound on the edges to give them a cleaner, smooth look before painting.
@matthaffner99203 жыл бұрын
I recently discovered bulk edge banding on Amazon. I got the 250’ roll and made a dispenser for it, which makes it easy to apply to my plywood pieces. I do a lot of edge banding and this really helped.
@Not_TVs_Frank3 жыл бұрын
I got a big roll too, but a dispenser never occurred to me. That's slick.
@matthaffner99203 жыл бұрын
@@Not_TVs_Frank thanks! I got the idea from another woodworker on KZbin. Mine is much cooler though 😬. Here’s a link in case you’re interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4HMdIiAp5l9rrs
@davebuts19213 жыл бұрын
I have never found plywood edges to be a problem, i have always enjoyed them.
@JonnyDIY3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Good to see you back, have missed you Hoping all is well in your world & you are enjoying Summer 🤙🏼
@ynpmoose3 жыл бұрын
Solid wood on shelf edges also helps prevent the shelf from bowing under weight
@necrojoe3 жыл бұрын
It's also much more durable, especially less likely to get damaged if you slide things off the front edge of the shelf.
@MrDanielOrtizA3 жыл бұрын
I've learned so much watching your videos... I just started hands-on woodworking and I just want to try everything you have taught me
@jacksonknaub82953 жыл бұрын
Great video!! I just used iron on edge banding on my last project
@TheFunnyCarpenter3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Steve, great pacing and editing!
@MagWolf113 жыл бұрын
This was... good timing. I just searched this topic for the first time ever having no idea that you put out a video of it today
@notimportant3932 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much for the concise explanation! I'm looking to do my first project and i think plywood is the way to go for me but I don't like the ply edges at all! This was so helpful!
@TheLukemcdaniel3 жыл бұрын
My desk is made of 3/4" ply(12 years ago, not sure what grade the step got for it). He put edging on(not banding, used 1/4" strips of regular wood), less for looks, and more so we wouldn't have to worry about roughness. it's still SOLID.
@handiman50013 жыл бұрын
welcome back Steve -- good info
@hjboots Жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial on plywood, Thank you for sharing.
@JoePalumbo2213 жыл бұрын
Also most banks offer low interest loans these days just for plywood. 🤪
@tedpuckett27793 жыл бұрын
Truth! 🤦♂️ stuff is really expensive right now.
@doubledarefan3 жыл бұрын
@@tedpuckett2779 >$100 for a sheet of ½" Fir ACX! Ouch!
@TitusVespas3 жыл бұрын
Small variation of these tips is solid wood edge banding cut really thin with a table-saw, apply with wood glue and (painters-)tape. Not as convenient as buying iron-on edge banding, but cheaper and can easily be applied to curved edges.
@thomashajicek27473 жыл бұрын
The tricky part with that is you need to get the faces very smooth and flat, which is easier said than done. A drum sander makes it easier, but they're a pricey tool to have if you don't have much use for them.
@TitusVespas3 жыл бұрын
@@thomashajicek2747 Maybe I am not as particular as you, but I have found a table saw and then a random orbit sander to work okay. Slight variations in thickness is pretty hard to see unless you are going over with a caliper.
@thomashajicek27473 жыл бұрын
@@TitusVespas I'm talking about gaps between the edge strip and the edge of the plywood. The saw blade can leave imperfections from the blade, and the ROS can sand unevenly, which would cause there to be some gaps. If you're painting the project you can just use some kind of fill, but if you're going natural then you'll have either some small gaps, or discolored areas where fill is applied. But you're right, it may just be a little picky, especially if it's just something for your own home. With a really good saw blade and/or planer/jointer, you can get the edge reasonably flat.
@shaneducholke3643 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing, I am building two subwoofers out of red oak plywood and was wondering how to deal with the exposed edges. Edge banding it is!
@MCsCreations3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic tips, Steve! Thanks a lot! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@Six2Bro3 жыл бұрын
I use "Fastcap edge banding"...super strong glue, no ironing..just peel n stick. DW's Custom Closets
@ExcaliburPaladin3 жыл бұрын
wow i didnt know about real wood veneer with glue to iron, will use it for sure! Great video!
@dwightl58633 жыл бұрын
There is also veneer banding that is adhesive backed. Believe FastCap is one supplier.
@ExcaliburPaladin3 жыл бұрын
@@dwightl5863 I dont live in US, will check here in europe where baltic birch ply is made in neighbourhood :)
@number63963 жыл бұрын
Don't do it. The stuff will chip and/or peel off. You will be sorry you went this route. I vehemently dislike all edge banding (veneer with glue).
@dwightl58633 жыл бұрын
@@number6396 Most everything has it's place. Iron on and adhesive banding can have a place where it is mostly for show. I would not use it to edge band shelves, or desk and table edges for the abuse they will likely encounter. Personally have not had a problem with the veneers.
@nemesis1173 жыл бұрын
One tip I learned from Crafted Workshop for exposed plywood edges was to use wood filler on them to fill any voids and even it out before staining. It worked a treat when I built a desktop with an exposed edge.
@FixitFingers3 жыл бұрын
I see someone listened to the advice on his own podcast this week with the single video recommendation 😁 (I thought that was a great tip, I've started it too 😉)
@julesoyler43063 жыл бұрын
Yo read my mind! Just came across a potential project, with that being my question remaining! So a special thanks today!!
@hassanal-mosawi42353 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing those tips, and the make!
@pennstater89ad2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great video on hiding plywood edges!
@0CalAgricola3 жыл бұрын
Any chances another intro woodworking class might be coming out? I'd love some more projects to try!
@froggore523 жыл бұрын
Steve, where do you buy your baltic birch plywood?
@SamuelCordner3 жыл бұрын
I was just looking this up on Google.... Thanks Steve.
@jonathanmarquis8662 жыл бұрын
thank you for being so quick!
@genghisbunny3 жыл бұрын
So nice to see a shorter video that's not the vertical "shorts" format
@HepauDK3 жыл бұрын
I featured the plies on the table top of my assembly table by cutting the plywood (13/16" formwork plywood with the coating planed off) into 1 3/4" x ~50" strips and glued them together, so all the plies are visible lengthwise. The main reason for doing it this way, was because it would be too difficult to remove the insanely durable coating from sheets large enough for the finished width (~33"), and the pieces I had was reclaimed pieces from work I treated the finished tabletop with 4 coats of satin clear floor laquer, and it looks absolutely awesome! :)
@sirbrewzalot2 жыл бұрын
I love the look of Baltic Birch edges.
@dan.w.hoover25563 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MarceneiroFDS Жыл бұрын
Great tips thanks!! Speaking of weight, Plywood is huge relief for who knows MDF. In Brazil MDF is the king of cabinetry, for who likes to work with Plywood unfortunately the iron-on edge bands are not available down here!! The alternative would be the sheets of veneer but the process is very time consuming.
@woodworkingprocess3 жыл бұрын
very helpful for those who are looking for inspiration, thank you for the knowledge hello new friend
@PR-WoodWorkingCreations3 жыл бұрын
*Great Video, Sometimes I like the Plywood Edges it works great for some Projects* 👍
@robertbamford82663 жыл бұрын
Iron on. So easy. Also doesn’t really add to dimensions. (I wonder how many people want to know what an iron is.) Thanks for the video.
@eriks29623 жыл бұрын
Obviously this is the kind of iron steve was talking about! acc-cdn.azureedge.net/mrlnop420media/0009874_medieval-iron-shackles.jpeg
@murrij3 жыл бұрын
awesome. thanks for this.
@I-Love-Taylor-Swift3 жыл бұрын
Parts of this video totally gave me "The White Stripes - Hardest Button To Button" vibes !!
@bmich2813 жыл бұрын
Steve, loving the Nori I see.
@aaronmcintyre39983 жыл бұрын
Miss your videos please make more thank you
@robertgullickson87583 жыл бұрын
Great suggestions! Always helpful. Thank you
@robertsmith35183 жыл бұрын
TY , Another YTV full of great info !
@thecharmofwoodworking64473 жыл бұрын
Great tips as always!
@ObsessiveAboutCats3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for using red instead of white for the chapter sections!!!
@rodcormier74283 жыл бұрын
Great video .... always enjoy your videos ... Thank you:)
@ArturoMendezC3 жыл бұрын
Muy buenos tips bro
@randypittman2793 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve, where do you source baltic birch ply?
@davethepak3 жыл бұрын
As always awesome video sir! Thanks for your channel.
@scotchvelo Жыл бұрын
Can you apply edge banding on a piece that's already put together? Like a book case?
@thomashajicek27473 жыл бұрын
I tried spackle/drywall compound on plywood edges once, and even painted the layers were still pretty visible. I may not have done a great job and need to give it another go. Edge banding is a good option, but if you've ever owned a piece of furniture with veneer you know how it can start peeling away with wear. I have a desk now that is peeling all over the top. I think the best solution is a strip of wood for the edge treatment. Being much thicker it's less likely to peel away. It's difficult to get it smooth enough for a joint free of gaps, but those would probably be easier to fill and hide with a compound or wood fill than the whole edge of the plywood.
@number63963 жыл бұрын
I agree. Edge band is terrible. It chips and peels all over. I never use it. The strip of wood is more work up front, but far superior to edge band. No one is unhappy, even years later, when they have real wood edges.
@Guardian_Arias3 жыл бұрын
I've used all of these plus one more. Miter and dado all the edges. When you dado the edge make it so only one ply is exposed it will make it look like a solid edge. Oh and you can also make your own vernier strips by running strips on the edge on the table saw. Your working with ply wood you will always have long strips of about an inch or less keep them and put them to work each strip can net you two venear strips
@budmonk2819Күн бұрын
Whats the tool you used to trim the edge off?
@neriyaa3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Under What name can I find the special tool?
@shadowcheto853 жыл бұрын
As a someone that is going to make a new kitchen with exposed plywood. Thank you.
@maria-dawnw35953 жыл бұрын
Exposed edges? I'm also making plywood cabs for my kitchen and am still working on my design
@A6Legit3 жыл бұрын
I generally use solid wood strips. Edge banding is nice too, I use a heat gun.
@anthonysurman81923 жыл бұрын
Plywood warping how to deal with that ...also does a better grade of plywood warp less ? Sorry if this in the wrong place ..do you have a general advise section...:}
@terryparis81593 жыл бұрын
hello new o your channel.....hv question about a stool video from 6 yrs ago this july..foot stool....maybe i missed something..you said you cut 2 x 4 down handle easier..did you mean 4 equal cuts of that piece...ty luv channel
@jessethomas15742 жыл бұрын
I’m building a storage bench seat with plywood top. What is the most rugged means? It is a banquette at a dinner table so will have lots of use. I am painting it so the wood appearance is not as important.
@Pitmaster4Lyfe3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the price of plywood lately, it's freakin outrageous?! One example for you, I was in HD today and 7/16" OSB plywood was $52!! Definitely had to do a double take to make sure I was looking at the proper price tag, and by God I DEFINITELY was!! So if I was you, don't take any job where it's gonna need a substantial amount of plywood!💯
@vincebaker33843 жыл бұрын
Great video lots of good advice I am a weekend woodworker whenever I have tried to use edge banding the iron-on kind on plywood and then try to put stain on it the edge banding always turns out a lighter shade in color than the plywood. When you put wood stain on any type of wood the further the stain penetrates into the wood the darker it will look on the surface. Age banding is very thin and has glue on the back the glue stops the penetration of the wood stain this is what makes the color of the stain on the edge banding look lighter in color. Have you experienced this.
@SteveRamsey3 жыл бұрын
I haven't experienced that. Since the surface of plywood itself is just a veneer, it should act the same as the edge banding. But there are so many kinds of plywood, it doesn't surprise me that this can happen. Also, the edge banding might be a different type of wood.
@Gbhmagic3 жыл бұрын
If you edge it and the apply stain..will it not look diffetent.
@buzzystrings69333 жыл бұрын
Your free tool guide doesn’t seem to be available anymore. Did it move elsewhere?
@joelkton13 жыл бұрын
The artist Tom Sachs definitely highlights it.
@sjfarrell2.033 жыл бұрын
Edge banding is great but it's quite pricey unless you buy 50m of it in one go. If you have good stuff e.g. birch ply, liquid beeswax really makes the edges pop and gives a nice effect.
@wacobeer64693 жыл бұрын
Two words... T-Molding. (or is that one word?) Anyway, I used it on my 80's style stand-up arcade machine build and my electronics workbench. Works great and gives a sorta retro appearance.
@sweetthaiwilly1473 жыл бұрын
What about roundimg over the edges either through a round over bit or sanding? I feel like it would look pretty cool but from what can find on the internet most people say it's either not possible because of tear out or it just doesn't look good. But I'm not convinced, because I can't actually find any examples with pictures showing the results. I will be experimenting with this soon, but I wonder what opinions you have?
@ariedebruijn11893 жыл бұрын
Good to see that you have the album In God We Trust, Inc. from the Dead Kennedys.
@SteveRamsey3 жыл бұрын
Classic DK
@ariedebruijn11893 жыл бұрын
@@SteveRamsey Legendary...!
@FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL3 жыл бұрын
@@SteveRamsey Thats a good enough reason to subscribe on its own. Clearly you have taste.
@bullfrogpondshop31793 жыл бұрын
Good eye!
@bullfrogpondshop31793 жыл бұрын
@@SteveRamsey I'm quite surprised to see that you're a DK fan. But you're the right age and from California, so on second thought it's not that surprising. California Über Alles!
@fitzwilliamdarsey3 жыл бұрын
Tamar recently put out a video about this very topic. The really great thing about her video is she referenced you.
@number63963 жыл бұрын
Her video actually had more solutions to edging.
@dogface60403 жыл бұрын
Baltic birch ply is great, BUT BB comes in grades, and the lower grades will have as many edge voids as ordinary (yech!) plywood. Don't be surprised if your vendor has no idea about BB quality ratings (you can google the topic to learn more). Be as picky with BB as any other piece of tree. Filling / spackling the edges: well, it helps but if you used exposed edge plywood, expect the laminations to show. It's a choice, and not a bad one. I'd always chamfer or ease the edges, including with edge banding. Those edges can cut.
@dasschaf24763 жыл бұрын
That's not my experience. Every sheet of birch ply I ever bought is voidless, and only the face veneer changes in quality. Its only when you get to C/C boards that voids are permitted but I've never actually seen that grade on sale anywhere in my life, only BB/CP face grades and better. You're right that those lower grades theoretically exist, I've just never seen them in thirty years of buying birch plywood to make furniture.
@dogface60403 жыл бұрын
@@dasschaf2476 I guess I'm just lucky. The point is to check what you're buying. I'm reluctant to depend on someone else's good fortune.
@calyodelphi1243 жыл бұрын
I have multiple furniture projects I'd like to build at the makerspace down the road from me, and I absolutely plan on featuring the edges of the plywood. :D Do you have any recommendations on how to make those plys visually pop? I'm considering a water-based polyurethane finish on my dad's recommendation, because I want surfaces that are sealed against liquid damage or food stains.
@MarceloFreitas703 жыл бұрын
Hi, Steve. Is required a special blade to cut plywood? Thank you for sharing that precious tips.
@Not_TVs_Frank3 жыл бұрын
I cut plywood with my very basic came-with-the-saw blade. Works fine for me. There are blades labeled as "plywood" blades but I personally doubt it makes that big of a difference. One thing that does make a difference, especially on splintery oak plywood? Painters tape on your cut-lines. It prevents a ton of tear-out, especially when cutting against the grain of the veneers.
@MarceloFreitas703 жыл бұрын
@@Not_TVs_Frank Thank you so much!
@sikkepossu3 жыл бұрын
0:15 "it's perfectly flat" I only wish. When it's comes to thin (6 and 9mm) plywood it's really difficult to find some which are flat.
@meep6188 Жыл бұрын
Just use spackling?
@ninnusridhar3 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but every time I touch ply(however new) I get splinters. Any tips anyone? It gets really annoying.
@HepauDK3 жыл бұрын
Wear gloves when handling it. ;) The reclaimed scrap pieces of formwork plywood I bring home from work has crazy sharp edges at times (because of the durable coating), so I always wear gloves when handling them.
@bullfrogpondshop31793 жыл бұрын
Work gloves
@thomashverring94843 жыл бұрын
Show me the cats, Steve! SHOW ME THE CATS!
@EPSTomcat113 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve, what tool do you recommend for trimming the edge banding sticker?
@A6Legit3 жыл бұрын
Razor should be fine
@justinkrause51293 жыл бұрын
Who can afford plywood these days
@A6Legit3 жыл бұрын
Solid wood has entered chat
@ZapTheRaveFox3 жыл бұрын
Your "list" download link doesn't work, 303 error "link not found"
@chrisbianculli34653 жыл бұрын
I keep getting a 404 error when trying to get the tool list from your website.
@davidalan67013 жыл бұрын
I designed a CNC enclosure, I was going to make it out of plywood mostly using pocket hole joinery almost exclusively. But, given how hard to find and expensive plywood is, I’m thinking of using melamine instead. Any reason that would be a bad idea?
@A6Legit3 жыл бұрын
A case that surrounds the cnc? Melamine is okay but its heavy AF. Screws and fasteners can strip out easily because the core material isnt held together very well. Its also challenging to get a good cut on the melamine surfaces, I find it chips easily, so even with edge banding it can look bad. Id try using 1/4" or 1/2" plywood if possible. Structurally I'd rather use MDF over melamine.
@davidalan67013 жыл бұрын
@@A6Legit thanks. I don’t really care about looks, it’s just a piece of garage shop furniture to keep any dust that escapes the dust boot and to keep the noise from floating to the rooms above. I would be doing plywood if I could, but nobody around really has any, and what little is around is almost 100 a sheet. Melamine is only 30, and since I’m probably going to need about 5 sheets, affordability is a priority. My other main concern was structural stability. I’m thinking if I really go nuts with the pocket hole screws (like every 4-6 inches) I should have enough redundancy to keep everything strong. What do you think?
@A6Legit3 жыл бұрын
@@davidalan6701 $100 a sheet, jesus. Near me decent plywood per sheet is 3/4" - $60 , 1/2" - $47, 1/4" - $33. Melamine 3/4" is $31. MDF 3/4" is $36.5, 1/2" is $31, ive only seen 1/4" in 2x4 sheets for $4.60. Just off my preference I would use MDF over melamine even if its a little more money. If your main goal is just to contain dust it doesnt need to support weight right? Id say use as thin as you can. You could build a frame out of 2x4 or 2x2's and cover it with 1/4" or other thin material. Im making something similar to keep dust from my miter saw contained. I made the frame out of .75" thick pine boards cut into strips. I am using plywood underlayment as the walls, I would highly recommend it for shrouds/containment. I have used it as sides and backs of shelving just to make basic dimensional lumber (2x4, 2x2 construction) furniture a little nicer. Its basically 1/5" or something like 9/32". A sheet is $14 and if you get a good selection the veneers can actually look pretty nice. Theres another product called utility panel that is $13 a sheet, 1/8" thick. Id just brad nail it to the frame.
@davidalan67013 жыл бұрын
@@A6Legit yeah, where I’m at, the pickings are slim. Those prices aren’t too far from what I’m seeing, there’s just so little available in full sheets. It does need to be strong enough to support the CNC and whatever material is getting cut, so I’d say it should be able to support about 150Lbs more than the box itself. Essential it’s a cabinet on legs but I designed it to make the support structural pieces out of sheet material so I wouldn’t have to use 2x4s. I was hoping to avoid 2x4s because right now it’s all bottom of the barrel and impossible to find anything straight. But I hadn’t thought of dimensional boards for at least the legs. That might work. Thanks.
@A6Legit3 жыл бұрын
@@davidalan6701 If you use 3/4" melamine all around that thing is going to be like 500lbs+ lol. Its about 90lbs per sheet. Sucks about slim pickings. I still need a jointer, but I got a planer because trying to deal with warped lumber is a nightmare. If I were you I would build a table with 2x4 legs and 3/4" sheet surface. I recommend a frame for the surface sheet so it doesnt sag under weight/time. You could also possibly add a storage shelf below it. Then use 2x2 frame and 1/4" ply/mdf, or that underlayment material as a cover that sits on top of your CNC "table". You can secure it if necessary. I hope lumber price and availability comes down soon, for all of us 🙏
@oneyedthing3 жыл бұрын
This guy can play Otis Firefly
@jvl32153 жыл бұрын
👌
@Benmeglei1 Жыл бұрын
Baltic Birch…..oh how I long for the days when you wouldn’t get bent over every time you bought a sheet. 285 dollar a sheet as I’m writing this out in Chicago.
@ContentToHover3 жыл бұрын
Clicking "send me the tool list" is still giving me a 404, has been for months.
@number63963 жыл бұрын
Edge band Stinks. It chips, peels off over time and cups in moist areas. Don't let ANYONE convince you otherwise. It's terrible. It's hard to fix/replace because often you can't get to it, and if you can, the color is different. I use baltic birch with exposed edges. If you don't want that look apply real wood edge strips. It's more work up front, but you won't be sorry later.
@SteveRamsey3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there's a defect to the brand you're using or something. I've literally made dozens of projects with edge banding over the past decade and never experienced any issues with it. 🤷♂️
@necrojoe3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Rogers, Steve Irwin, Bob Ross, LeVar Burton, and Steve Ramsey
@maria-dawnw35953 жыл бұрын
LeVar Burton doesn't seem to fit your mold so... how so on LeVar Burton? 🙂
@codigitty91952 жыл бұрын
I wish Baltic Birch wasn't $150 a sheet...
@atteljas3 жыл бұрын
We miss quite lot of Steves character when he is making tiktokn-age videos.
@SteveRamsey3 жыл бұрын
Check out my new Woodworking Talk Show. Up to an hour long episodes and more to come! 👍
@atteljas3 жыл бұрын
@@SteveRamsey Cheers mate! I will be heading that way!
@Daweisstebescheid3 жыл бұрын
i go to ikea, they have a lot of different cupboards and they are cheap, so there is always something suitable 😉😂
@yourtruckerfriend15842 жыл бұрын
The birch I'm seeing now is full of voids and not true birch the price went up the quality went down now they're lowering the price alittle ,I ask the store employees to reduce the price.. usually get a 10% discount.