How to Hook A Bowling Ball On Your Local House Shot

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[@fargonaz]

You need some high-speed cameras so you can give slow motion or stop motion video to explain more completely the dynamics of the elbow/wrist/hand/finger position during the whole approach and release. Thanks for the videos!

[@brandylknight]

Definitely one of your best explanations of hand positioning and how to create or decrease revolutions on the ball depending on the reaction and pin carry you are getting. Thank you Brad and Kyle

[@jfabritz]

I think you mean the axis of rotation instead of revolutions.

[@jamesvarela7409]

i don’t mean it the wrong way (bc i actually LOVE both interpretations; specifically how brad views some things) but i love kyle’s look at brad as if he’s making it crazy complicated for no reason at all😂😂. I think your different views on things are both extremely valuable but it cracks me up sometimes lol.

[@scotmcpherson]

Guys, this is probably the best video I have seen about hooking properly. This is what I have been trying to teach my kids, but you know…kids know better than Dad. Well, maybe they’ll listen to the pros.

[@mikecolie9290]

Unconsciously I have been somewhat doing this. Now that I understand it more I will work on this today. Very helpful video.

[@TreborYennits]

Thanks guys!

[@xPandora__]

I need to try that first tip next time I see my ball come in way too hard on the backend Great video

[@darkheartx100]

Great things to keep in mind I've been struggling with transition in game 3 I'll start incorporating this into my game.

[@kissoft]

Thanks guys, great explanation for us house bowlers.

[@johnrocksvold9105]

Great video. Thanks for being so descriptive. It helps a lot.

[@bradydegroot5197]

Thanks for this video guys! I like to start off with a phase 2 , but after about a game or so, it quits picking up 7 pins for me, so I typically transition into a black widow 2.0 because it has a different shape, and I can throw it exactly the same but it picks up those seven pins. What I don't like about transitioning into that ball is that it's more aggressive, so it's a little bit harder to control as the lanes have begun to break down. I'm on my way to practice for league, so I'm going to give this a try when the lane breaks down today. Thanks!

[@dwbaker7]

Thank you for this video!!! I'm a lefty and couldn't stop leaving the 7 pin. Turned my wrist and got 5 strikes in a row last night! 🙏

[@gigino780]

I been watching your guys videos nd it’s been a big help I’ve learned a lot from your guys channel I bowled my first 174 the other day!!!! Great content guys keep it comein!!!

[@fatboy_bam]

I wanted to thank you guys for your time making this video I bowled my best games in league tonight because of your guys tips today I appreciate you guys🤙🏼🍻

[@beefmaru]

Hey Brad & Kyle, always happy to watch your tips. Inspiring at all. Cheers!

[@rickwooley5156]

I started getting away from loading up.. I use to point my index finger straight down the lane.. but have gradually gotten away for that and have wondered why I was loosing some of the speed and the constant leaving of the 10's.. I am going to make myself pay more attention to that!! Love your videos guys!! Thanks!!

[@ninjawaver]

Very informative! Can you do a video on how to be able to cup the ball even on the back swing? Like how does Kyle get his wrist that strong to do that?

[@christ9359]

I think a lot of guys keep their right should back, which allows them to work their hand under the ball as it starts the downswing. The idea is to make your hand "fall faster" than the ball, so that at the bottom your hand has moved lower relative to the ball, rather than staying in the same place as the top of the backswing.

[@jfabritz]

@@christ9359 cocking the elbow during the downswing makes it easier to get your hand under the ball. You will see that on all the slow-motion pro shots from the side.

[@christ9359]

@@jfabritz I know, but that's more to accentuate the position rather than get behind the ball in the first place. If your shoulder is forward and you try to bend your elbow, you're just going to come around the outside of the ball.

[@Greeman11]

Great information, thanks!

[@jbruins82]

Just had this problem thank you !

[@zachchinn4608]

Love this. Thanks

[@williemorrison5006]

Beautiful information guys I love the videos that you two guys share to the world I'm definitely learning from your videos just know thats and would love to hear from you two guys more in the future.

[@GeorgeGates]

Great explanation !

[@jeffborders5448]

Great vid. This is really helpful.

[@anthonydeloach805]

Good lesson on hand positioning, I recently started to include this strategy in my game.

[@logangirlforlife]

love you guysssssss !!!

[@cybersteel8]

This is very interesting to me, because my house lanes quite often break down severely after the first game. I can make the pocket on the first game, but literally in the second game, I'm getting a really weak pocket shot, chopping the head pin left and missing the 2pin completely. The transition is terrifying. I am going to remember this when I move left and slow down more. Quite often, I actually move RIGHT, just to get more into the pocket, but I often don't change my hand position. Maybe this will help, thank you!

[@jl4560]

Nice tip, I've heard the term load it up and never understood what that meant. For me when I start ringing the ten pin I move one board right and throw it in the same spot. Our house shot for me I throw straight down the second arrow. I get a three-board miss area and can still strike. Which is between the seven board to the ten board. Thank you Brad and Kyle

[@davidhartman5594]

My summer league this year my first game average was around 250 for half the season and then seemingly experienced carry problems the rest of the night, so that scenario being mentioned early in the video resonated with me quite fiercely 🤣

[@kristenanderson5273]

I’ve been leaving a lot of 10 pins lately, but last night I only missed one out of 6. I used the 3rd arrow to go across lane, and in the past I was using 2nd arrow but I had trouble getting my ball to go straight and the ball would either miss left or go in the gutter. Been trying to get out of a slump I’ve been in since the end of summer league.

[@raymason7857]

Last night I started out wit 181, with a triple in the tenth. I was coming around the ball. Second game I started going up the back like guys were talking about. I managed a 245 and a 279 with a solid 9 pin first ball in the tenth. I wouldn’t have thought to do this if I hadn’t seen your video yesterday afternoon. Thanks guys!!!

[@tonysfamilytalk]

Great advice!

[@rodfrank7617]

Great video! I’m going to try that at my next practice session.

[@r.j.knight784]

The last one you mentioned, I call it to suitcase it

[@TraumaRider]

I ran into this problem last night in league. I was doing phenomenal in the first game and then second and third game not so phenomenal. Just had to adjust my hand position and I was able to start stringing strikes together

[@kristenanderson5273]

Omg, Brad and Kyle are back! Missed you guys. Thanks for another great bowling tips video. Waiting anxiously for the 2023 PBA tour schedule. Would love to see you guys in person again. Brad, we are still due for a date! Love what you guys do for bowling. ❤

[@kristenanderson5273]

@@jameslong9564 I don’t even wanna know what that means, lol. I’m not talking dinner and a movie, just a casual outing doing something fun and low key, like a walk in a park or a round of mini golf. I’d like to know what his idea of a first date is, but that’s my 2 cents, heehee

[@SH-ic4mu]

Love it. I'm currently at 180 average but I can hit 200+ every few weeks. This explanation will help me improve. People think im going to drop the ball the way I throw it because I've never had help with the release, now I've seen this I know I will get better. 👍🏽

[@mcdowec.2020]

Next video: how to combat urethane/ plastic on house shot

[@ACommentFromYouTube]

To combat urethane it seems to be throw more urethane lol

[@itsgazzer186]

You need to either move inside or outside if where they are playing

[@Frostecy]

Next video: how to stop blaming Urethane when in truth you suck at bowling 🤣🤣

[@umbra9273]

Urethane bowlers improve my scores. They make the lanes nice

[@CurtisL8.3066]

Throw it right at the spot, it will hook early and then lay. Let’s you use the push and wont overhook. So many of y’all righties want to chase it left and cry when you lose your bounce. Just square up and throw it right at the puddle. Sincerely, a lefty

[@anthonydeloach805]

Thanks!

[@noahwhipkey6262]

what you guys should talk about is axis tilt and how to change it. i have a feeling thats what you mean by a loaded hand position

[@chrisstrong3748]

I was just telling a teammate this last night. To keep the wrist in a strong position and turn his fingers to get rotation instead of swinging his arm around the ball. His revs were higher, tilt came up a bit and was driving way harder through the pins

[@kstirmel]

Tried this tonight, game changer for me. Almost took care of my ten pin issue.

[@andrewbrakey6214]

Thank you guys, nice explanation Brad. I am thinking rotate around but loading the wrist puts the ball in that position without over complicating the release. I think this will help me release smoothly instead of slowing down at release and just give me more control, revs, speed all things we never have enough of 1 handed.

[@TheGreatConstantini]

This is the first video that concisely explains both releases for us league folk.

[@190avgdad]

Oh the epiphany just hit! Thanks guys

[@Captain4Morgan1]

I’ve been struggling with this. Haven’t bowled in many years and kinda forgot how to properly load the wrist which leads to release issues. Great timing on this video.. for me

[@jerryczzowitz3384]

Another tip that I used to do when Reactive first came out and was getting too much jump at the break point is jam your fingers slightly more into finger holes approximately 1/8 inch below the crease on your fingers. That really helped tame the jump at the break point and helped with carry. Great tip especially if you struggle with consistency with different hand position releases.

[@hammerhead6194]

Are you spinning the ball like a top when you throw from the left? If so, is it spinning a lot or just a bit?

[@thesamsquatch5224]

I'm two handed in bowling so myself versus Kyle per say would have an easier time creating rotation. Yet for me at least, Kyle has better control of the ball being one handed. I really have been working on my hand position and this helps a great deal thank you! Also lol it goes without saying that you have better control and everything being professionals lol

[@thesamsquatch5224]

I'm working on a stronger asym. What do you recommend when that stops doing its thing? I've heard phase 2, nova, maybe a zen?

[@philipray7858]

Great Video, Kyle your dad was the man that use to get the max out of the rotation, even back in our day. Keep it up and keep the pride of St. Louis going. BTW is this at St. Charles Lanes.

[@jakester4022]

Good video. If it's hooking a little too much, I'll try to break my wrist slightly on the backswing, then hit it on the way up... changes the entry angle slightly

[@MsSnakke]

Great video. Thanks for the information. I will add my two cents on the part of loading and the clock vision. I personally imagine the the clock on my hand and 12 o'clock I call it a zero load then I slightly load my wrist at 11 o'clock for a extra rotation to come around the ball then I try it at 10 o'clock and the max load is at 9 o'clock that is how I create more rotation on the ball and stick to what the lane is asking me to do on that particular day. Ofcourse the other factor which needs to be considered is the speed at which I want to roll the ball at which goes in tandem with the leg work. I would appreciate if you could do a video on foot work for speed control and loading of the wrist together to show how the ball reacts differently when these two are considered hand in hand.

[@markevenson987]

Thanks for another educational video. It may be just me but I am having a hard time SEEING the ball movement as it goes thru the pins. Just wondering if a closeup camera angle of the ball going thru the pins would be possible? Love your channel and vlogs. As a side note, congrats to Kyle on your 3rd place finish at the Masters last weekend. April 2023.

[@coachstephsell]

Where the heck have you guys been? Miss your videos

[@BradandKyleBowl]

The off season is busier than you may think 😬

[@ellikid0088]

These videos have gotten my average up about 20 pins!

[@iMinhDontHate]

Are you supposed to keep your hand loaded from the beginning of the swing to the release? Or just load up at the release to create revs?

[@robertkendall7503]

If you read your commentary, I want to know when to release the bowling ball ? When your are sliding or when your are stop à the fall line?

[@scottythompson940]

Cool video talk tech bowling brad and Kyle I used to hook a bowling ball when I was in youth junior league team back from 2003 when I was 12 years ago and 18 year old in 2009 can not do it now at 31 years old me now in 2022 in adult bowling league team just throw the ball straight now I might put some hook on the bowling ball not that much

[@bradleythorburn]

Ah haaa now I get it thanks guys

[@ronwynn1725]

As someone not quite good enough to change hand positions with consistency yet. What are the best house shot lane adjustments to make without changing hand positions in game 3 when the track is all burned up?

[@stever6885]

I’d say consider balling down to a weaker cover ball if you are not going to change your hand position..

[@joshuategeler3419]

As someone switching to 2 handed I have feel my elbow is not in the same place every time. This gives me something to work on with the wrist and elbow to try and improve. Keep the tips coming.

[@chrisstrong3748]

Every time my elbow bends in my back swing it goes out slightly and I wind up pushing the ball 4 boards left at the arrows. There're 2 things I found that helped me avoid that though. First and biggest help was locking my elbow as I start my back swing with my wrist still in a cupped position until I'm ready to release the ball. The second thing that helped was allowing the weight to shift to my opposite hand as the swing goes up and allowing the ball to drop on its own. No pulling it down or trying to shove it forward. This lets your muscles stay loose throughout the swing so you can have a relaxed, clean release at the bottom. The locked elbow keeps your arm behind it and makes it easier to hit targets consistently. Allowing the weight of the ball to naturally shift back onto your throwing hand as you approach the bottom of the swing helps a lot with timing too. I don't know how you bowl, but those are things that helped me and a few of the 2-handers/no-thumbers I bowl with that have had issues with controlling the elbow (just lock it out) and being consistent at the bottom.

[@joshuategeler3419]

@@chrisstrong3748 thanks for the tips. I'll give them a try.

[@angelmireles]

Hey Brad or Kyle I don't know if you done this kind of video before but what have you guys done when you go on a slump

[@etan5716]

Should do a layout tour of what your favorite/most used layouts.

[@JeredSteilen]

When he talks about tucking the pinkie to get around, he literally describes my throw

[@glenstokes3970]

I have a blue hy road and I love it, but if there is a long distance of cleaner on those synthetic lanes hand position does not help, but if it a favorable lane condition, oh ya who's your daddy! So what do I do to improve with lane condition

[@chaddavis1886]

Wow I am more up back style and now I have good idea how load it. Going give it a go n try both on mix league fried egg pair lanes. See. And thanks for weak position also. N I was one thought was a good position. Clearifying that guys. Maybe see y’all who in Michigan at thunderbowl lanes arena bowing.

[@travishanson166]

If I'm striking up the back, and I load up, I'll be going Brooklyn or missing the head pin left altogether lol

[@tonyp357]

If you can’t hit the pocket and or can’t carry after a few adjustments. When should you try another ball?

[@stevothegreat]

Hi Brad , I noticed the golf clubs back in your car , are you a good golfer ?

[@drwisdom1]

While I have been bowling for 43 years I don't have as many adjustment abilities as our pro dudes. I can't change my wrist action. Before I move left I ratchet up the speed and loft as needed.

[@SirJoelsuf1]

I'm only 3 years younger than you and I've been doing the same for most of my life. While the ball speed is only really necessary if the lanes turn into sandpaper, EVERY bowler needs to learn how to loft. Straight up, Loft is the X-Factor in bowling today.

[@darylgould8923]

Are you guys coming to the Sunshine Coast in Australia for the World Championships?

[@supersoniq3506]

I like that: 'Or you can just change balls' 🙂

[@MichaelConroy24]

So I started bowling when I was 5-25 and quit for 10 years. Starting back now, but having issues with moving my eye down lane and picking the right equipment. How can I contact y'all for questions?

[@junehatfield5821]

Can you do this on sports shot too?

[@DSLatte1]

When you're throwing it at 20, where are you standing? Can you please explain how you're changing that too, thanks!

[@emcnelis1]

One time Kyle talked about going up to make a shot and visualizing Norm Duke saying to him “just make YOUR shot” and now I literally do that and it honestly works for me. Had to get up in the 10th and mark to win league tonight and pured it, 10 back. Norm is powerful.

[@JG-tx7mt]

What does a 'mark' mean?

[@saiyvinwesley6238]

@@JG-tx7mtspare or strike

[@RAM_845]

Hi guys, I own a Phaze 2 with finger-tip configuration, pin-up, and Ractive Solid; I've tried spanning my pointing finger and pinky but my issue is timing.

[@joshuaebbs367]

Im a RH bowler and my natural motion creates basically a hook youbwould see from a LH bowler. I've tried all your tips to correct it and I still can't get the ball to hook the right way. Any suggestions?

[@billycrowden34]

I’d like to see a video explaining how to approach a situation where your lane is messing up so you get moved; then next thing you know instead of shooting 250 like the first game, you can’t find a shot anymore and are lost

[@kristenanderson5273]

Happens to me all the time

[@tdunn.3463]

What is the speed of the ball down the lane? Just to give me an idea.

[@michaelsimmons7272]

So I’ve got a question, we’ve already bowled 3 weeks of one league and I’ve been doing terrible but we started the other league last Monday, the first week of Monday we was bowling on a 40 or 41 ft house shot and my feet are on board 20 and can throw over the 10 to 12 board to keep it in the pocket for a lefty, last night they put down a 38 ft house shot, I had no idea how to play it and I bowled a 133 the first game my 2nd and 3rd game was a 175 and a 208 but what I had to do was stand as close as I could to the ball return on the odd lane and almost not even on much own lane on the even lane, my feet were on like board 36 rereleasing the ball at the middle arrow. My question is does 3 ft or 2 ft less oil make that much of a difference when you guys play the lanes? For me I like to play the lane straight just like Norm Duke

[@jfabritz]

Will a difference of 3 feet doesn't seem like a lot, it probably had less volume. A short pattern requires balls that would play better due to the increased friction mid-lane. I see a lot of players use urethane to help drag the oil downlane to create more hold later for reactive balls.

[@bobjanicki9045]

Can you make video bowling on 39 ft mike aulby pattern bowling a regional in October

[@jasontom7278]

Great video guys. A ball with color would have helped visualize the differences.

[@supersoniq3506]

The problem with the house shot is (especially for right handers) you have 8-10 bowlers all throwing up the 10 board 🙂And it burns up fast!

[@garyoversen1869]

Might be helpful if you could see the release in slow motion. That way we could see the hand position.

[@SirJoelsuf1]

Purple Hammer up the gutter. Works every time 🤣😂

[@BillyDaGoat1017]

Bowled league last night and after the first game I was left throwing good shots but wasn’t stringing them together HELP!

[@MGDbets7]

I can't subscribe any harder

[@williekelty5601]

Great explanations from both of you! 🎳 back!

[@jackfrost127]

Coming up the back of the ball, mine always roll straight.

[@lt8473]

I’m a full roller with high ravs I don’t have this problem when it drys . I tend to struggle when it’s fresh. Any advice? Anyone can answer

[@tydal6867]

Could not be on the right part of the lanes I think that plays a big role also while you can be versatile with the same ball sometimes you're trying too hard to make the wrong ball work especially for us amateur there isn't necessarily one thing we can change to fix something

[@zacabbott363]

I need help with cliffed house shot for my high school it's not my home house but I have to bowl there for high school and I struggle I am 2 handed throw the ball pretty fast my house I averge 223 and bowl sport shots a lot but struggle on the cliffed

[@tydal6867]

I think they explained before straighter more closed/tight angles would work best on cliff regardless of starting position

[@petMonster28]

I don't understand why the ball hooks so much when Kyle "gets up the back" and throws it "end over end". It's hard to see w/o slow motion, but I visualize the ball just rolling straight forward. Unless, of course, he's really rotating his wrist to the right a little bit right at the release? Please explain.

[@JSBowling2011]

Nice video guys thank you for showing this to us but you talked about how we can score better on a house shot so how about if you take an amateur bowler maybe a 185 average bowler to 190 and show him what you’re telling us and see how he does so we can really see if it works because you guys are pros and you’re gonna hit the shot no matter what.

[@lukenycz7967]

I am right handed and when I bowl with my right I struggle to consistently hook the ball while if I go left handed I hook it soo much

[@tylerhernandez5207]

What if your house changes the house pattern every week? Just throw and pray?

[@qball7820]

May I suggest a possible addition to your vids: tips for two handers

[@BradandKyleBowl]

Might we suggest the video where we talk about 2 handed bowling

[@qball7820]

@@BradandKyleBowl ....oops. Must not have seen that one yet.... my bad. ☺️

[@reedallidap7173]

Them: Let’s show you how to hook it. See how good I am? Now make your shot as good as mine. Me trying to copy their shot: no spin

[@jamesforsythe5838]

Hey guys trying to become a member so I can get a chance to get a ball and also help with my bowling

[@SirJoelsuf1]

Serious comment, I like how a lot of these bowling youtubers are starting to make more content about coming up the back of the ball. JR Raymond has been making similar content and it is really helpful.

[@tonysfamilytalk]

Turning wrist and not arm is one of my worst habits I have