How To Identify Post WW2 Helmet Liners

[@AdamMann3D]

Today i came across a Korean War M1 with a 1983 type 1 liner. My wife went back and bought it for $125 which i think considering the age of the liner is too high. Of course she didnt know that and neither did the antique store guy, And when I was there all I could tell was it was all post war, so it's alright. I can be on the lookout for a Korean War liner, and it's my first US helmet so I'm stoked. First M1 as a Christmas present from the wife is a win no matter how you cut it.

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Congrats on your first M1 Helmet. Sounds like you have a really caring wife. My wife is the same way. We are a good team and enjoy doing things for each other. Keep on collecting and having fun. This is a great hobby.

[@samuelf8595]

This video has saved me so much stress. I can't find any info online that is as well collected and displayed as this video. Thank you so much!

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thank you for watching. Glad it helped you out. I love making videos like this. Thanks again.

[@torycsummers7328]

I absolutely love your personality and content. My Boyfriend and I are Both Collectors of Helmets and Militaria. Plus your Southern accent is so cute. Ty for the informational video. Absolutely above the best. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thank you Tory. I appreciate it alot. That's cool that you and your boyfriend collect also!

[@chrisrennirt8465]

Thank you so much for this video, Jon Boy! With this, I was able to finally identify a helmet liner in my collection. Much appreciated!

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Awesome. Thanks for watching Chris. I enjoy making videos like this.

[@jhernandez8830]

a lot of information. thanks for your research. wish this was around when I bought my 1st helmet. described as a WW2, but had a post war liner. shell was mid WW2.

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

You're welcome. Thanks for watching

[@richardh3547]

Very informative. Many thanks for your great knowledge. I have a Vietnam war liner stamped MXIV, so pre 1964. Best wishes, Richard.

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thanks Richard. I enjoy making these videos.

[@bullranderman]

Those particular mould in marks are from the company, Marmac who made liners 64- 69 , to date the liner look at the liner webbing, on the right side , the printed details are there.... 🙂🙂 Happy hunting

[@BUBBA808]

I have a Vietnam liner from July 1967. Sadly it didn’t come with a steel pot Edit: I just found out mine is a paratrooper M1C just like at 13:32! Exactly like that. I just learned that by watching your video thx!

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

That's cool. It sounds like you have a nice liner

[@BUBBA808]

@@JonBoyMilitaria yeah it pretty nice. But I don’t have a chin strap sadly

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Check ebay

[@MBJeep]

HI,thanks a lot for this historical Information from Luxemburg

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thanks for watching

[@peteraldridge5210]

Great info ,thanku 👍

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thanks for watching. I enjoy making videos like this.

[@war.helmets9636]

I have a Westinghouse Micarta liner that was made in 1952, the sweat band is from 1972 and has MP painted on it. The helmet itself was made in 1952 and used from Korea all the way inro the 1980s.

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

That's awesome

[@WayIntoAdventures]

Thank you for making this video, it’s really helpful. You have a nice channel.

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thanks. I appreciate it.

[@paulholloway1447]

Acquired m1 today off my friend swapped for British para helmet, strange one though ,it’s a front seam shell , which has bee over painted olive green,can’t make out stamp, the liners a beautiful brown patterned one with stamp us 72 with what looks like Vietnam era webbing green. Must admit with front seem I’m mega happy.

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

That's awesome

[@Parrotrooper]

Great video and very helpful information. I have a Vietnam era liner stamped “US 4” with the 4 below the US and no manufacturer that I can see, do you know what it could be? Thanks

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

@@Parrotrooper Let me look at my info

[@tcma66]

I picked up a 52 micarta liner for my ww2 m1 unknowingly wish I had seen this video before I got it but thanks for the information :)

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thanks for watching

[@thurin84]

great video. the molds left over are the actual molds used to press the liner shells. i dont know if any liner shells were left over, never heard that one before. the only thing id add is that 1964 and later marmac liners have a large black number inkstamped on the webbing after the nomenclature. firestone has a yellow number inkstamped on the inside skirt somewhere, and westinhouse has a white inkstamp number somewhere on the inside skirt.

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thanks for adding info. There is so much to learn.

[@historyrevive5417]

What the ww2 liner and the Vietnam era at 12:13 are made from?

[@darko_dulic]

Fiberglass

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

It changed from duck cloth to a nylon type material. Thicker which provided better protection.

[@michaelbenjmitchell1]

@@JonBoyMilitaria Jon Don't forget that some WWII liners also were made from Abitibi pressed paper products in WWII.

[@aidanwest6588]

Awesome video as always! Keep up the good work!

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thanks for watching. I appreciate it.

[@jerseyfaranginthailand8134]

great nf thank you for sharng with us

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thanks for watching

[@darko_dulic]

Was Capac the other manufacturer that still had WW2 moulds after the war? 2:40

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Westinghouse and CAPAC

[@Mree17]

Recently got a Westinghouse / Capac liner with the number 51 on it. I think it was converted from a M1C liner to a regular liner because of two holes on the sides of the liner next to the chinstrap loops.

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

That's what it sounds like

[@Nomadicgear-sd6tw]

Doesn’t Micarta also refer to the process of layering the cloth with resin to make the liner itself?

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

The cloth tag was made into the duck cloth.

[@scottstetzer]

Years ago Westinghouse built huge high=voltage transformers which used a lot of Micarta to insulate the internal coils (I wound coils for a while, Micarta is still used today) To me it always seemed to be the same as liner material. Don't think Micarta is a company name, just the material used for liners and transformers.

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

@@scottstetzer Thank you for watching

[@tmackjr8652]

@@scottstetzer now a robot makes and soldiers the circuit boards so no job in it.

[@redwineripple]

Nice job mate thanks

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thanks for watching

[@paulholloway1447]

So interesting, hard to get good liners in uk,thanks for film.

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thanks for watching. I appreciate it

[@paulholloway1447]

Very good information,wish liners were more available in uk

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thank you again for watching my videos.

[@skipsmoyer4574]

My issued helmet liner from USAF 78 has a mark in circle M on left, C in top and P on right. A pet peeve of mine is war movies and actors have just liner

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thank you for your service. I have noticed that in alot of war movies also.

[@war.helmets9636]

I have a post 1955 M1 liner with CAPAC and Westinghouse markings. Sadly it was reworked by a reanactor and given WW2 stlye OD3 webbing but it still has a 0D7 neck strap. Its sweatbandbis from 1979. The liner came with a WW2 era rear seam McCord helmet with Vietnam era paint and a name. Sadly the helmet is missing its neck strap but it cam with a Vietnam cover made in 1965. Also the M1 helmets stamp is 914A, so when would have the M1 helmet been made.

[@samuelechapman7159]

Will all liners fit all shells ?

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

For the most part, U.S. liners fit in U.S. shells. Some may be more snug or tight fitting.

[@samuelechapman7159]

OK cool thank you very much good sir

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

You're welcome. Anytime

[@fredjones3693]

camera looks great!

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thank you

[@Mree17]

I have a liner that’s dated to 1983 and the suspension is from 1985

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Awesome

[@michaelbenjmitchell1]

Those suspensions are easy to replace with those late pattern liner shells as the are slip ons and not riveted in like the old 64 pattern liner shells.

[@CelticGermanicTxWarrior77]

Mine says D7 in crown. Looks like your oldest one. Also has w with circle at crown too. So how old do you think it is?

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

@@CelticGermanicTxWarrior77 Post Ww2 Westinghouse

[@reardelts]

I have a firestone liner inside a parish M1 shell (heat stamp 9041 or 0041- can’t make out first digit). The liner has black ink stamp on the inside of hard hat (not the cloth band) that says (Combat type 1 27 Oct 72). What are the odds the M1 helmet and/or the liner were used in Vietnam?

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

With the date of 1972 in the liner, it's unlikely it was worn in Vietnam. The helmet itself may have been worn with a different liner that had to be replaced with the liner that it has now after the war.

[@reardelts]

JonBoy09 thanks for the concise response brother. I’ve had the helmet since I was a kid in the early ‘90s. Good to get confirmation. I was gonna add a period chin strap and helmet cover to complete it but I think I’ll leave as is. Thanks again

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

@@reardelts You're welcome. Thanks for watching. I enjoy making videos like these.

[@thIDthIRreenactor]

@@JonBoyMilitaria I have a Vietnam m1 shell heatstamp of 6522 stamped upside down in skinny letters with a bullet hole that the army welded to reissue also have a 65 dated marmac liner the stamp on the liner is US 12 but my liner is skinny not thick can I send you some pics on insta

[@porgstew3657]

What does it mean if your liner has a cross marking in the middle of the inside?

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Do you see the word CAPAC inside the cross area?

[@porgstew3657]

@@JonBoyMilitaria I cant tell. The cross is small and hard to see but if feels like there is a little ribg at the bottom of the cross. If it helps, it is a steinburg 1973 liner.

[@Dan0130]

I have an Original WWII M1 helmet with the liner but the leather chinstrap was disintegrated and I'm looking to find an original one. How can you tell if its original one and also if you can make a video for one?

[@darko_dulic]

There are great reproduction chin straps at j Murray 1944

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Early World War 2 chinstrap buckles were green. By 1944, they were either steel or black. Check on ebay for another one. Originals can be expensive to replace.

[@corey_the_bird3086]

Hi, I have an M1 helmet produced sometime in or before 1944 (Heat stamp is faded but it has a front seam). Unfortunately, the helmet did not come with a liner, I'm curious to know if you could help me look for a WW2 liner within the price range of 10-30$ if not, please feel free to still link a site where I could purchase one if you can, thanks in advance! (Side question, I found a post WW2 liner for 5 dollars on Ebay and I'm curious to know if a post war liner would fit it, thanks in advance once again!)

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Hey, thanks for reaching out. Honestly, I would check ebay and see if you could find something in your price range. Most militaria has gone up big time in price. You may be able to find a Ww2 liner in average condition for your price range but if you are wanting a really good example then it can get really pricey. But keep on looking and I'm sure that you will find a nice liner for your helmet.

[@corey_the_bird3086]

@@JonBoyMilitaria Thanks, also I figured out it was produced sometime between September and November of 1944

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

@@corey_the_bird3086 You're welcome

[@rapcreeperproductions3269]

I have a helmet and the marks in the liner appear to read "CMP #5" kind of a yellow circle with the letters in it divided into third with the five off to the right.

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Do you have an instragram? If so then could you send me pictures of the liner on my JonBoy Militaria Instagram? I also have a JonBoy Militaria Facebook as well.

[@rapcreeperproductions3269]

@@JonBoyMilitaria I'll create an insta

[@zackscott903]

Hey, got my usmc camo and my peq 15 nvg laser box dummy, my nvg dummy and mount, plus a acog scope, awesome video and my vietnam liner is still going strong

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

That's awesome man.

[@zackscott903]

I haft to wait unil Christmas to open the packages and school is setting there unrelistic gouls again

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

@@zackscott903 I hope you have a great Christmas.

[@zackscott903]

Thanks, you too, means alot

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

@@zackscott903 I hope your schooling goes well also.

[@jeffbirkmeyer9068]

Hey jonboy is the helmet liner supposed to pressure fit inside the helmet or do I have to do something else. ?

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Some helmet liners can fit a little more snug in some helmets than others. Sometimes there can be just a little "play" which makes it easier to remove the liner if needed.

[@bullranderman]

To really firm up your knowledge, which is pretty good , you need to purchase ' Post WW2 Helmets by Marc Reynosa, which is a really reliable, properly referenced publication...so, all the little things your not clear on, are right there ! As you were!

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thanks for watching and commenting. I actually did purchase that book not long after making this video. It is a very good book for sure. Lots of good info.

[@bullranderman]

@@JonBoyMilitaria you'll never stop learning from that one 🙂🙂

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

I agree

[@michaelbenjmitchell1]

The liner I have in my helmet has a M24 on it and the suspension under the sweatband reads 12 Oct 72.

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Vietnam era for sure

[@michaelbenjmitchell1]

@@JonBoyMilitaria 5 years before I was born but also not even a full year before my dad joined the Air Force in 73. And I picked up a M1 helmet swivel bail with heat treat stamp 2811 just the shell and just won a 66 dated liner as I'm going to do up a helmet for my Uncle who was in the Marines from 1966-1970 he was stationed in Okinawa from 66-68 assigned to Marine HQ okinawa and went back and forth from Marine HQ Okinawa and Marine HQ Da Nang. Though if I find another helmet I might make one for my Great Uncle who is a Korean War vet and still with us.

[@aedanglimsdale2809]

I have a liner that has the Firestone mark. And it has the numbers 63, probably meaning 1963. I know you have another video about metal shells, so i will post my question there.

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Yes, it should date to 1963.

[@aedanglimsdale2809]

@@JonBoyMilitaria Thanks for the Help! good vid

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

@@aedanglimsdale2809 You're welcome

[@larryburwell8550]

thanks for the interesting videoi know all this but good in for the beginner , nam helmet liners stink

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thank you for watching

[@harriers6248]

Where did you get your information for this vid

[@idontknowwhattocallmyaccou349]

I can’t find any mark on the bottom of my Vietnam era helmet is it fake or something

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Sometime they are hard to see or could be worn out.

[@idontknowwhattocallmyaccou349]

Yeah I just looked and I saw some little logo or something

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Sometimes you can use magnifying glass and small flashlight.

[@idontknowwhattocallmyaccou349]

@@JonBoyMilitaria update I just got a Ww2 liner

[@phyisck5235]

i have a liner its dated feb 1975 the manufacture marking is like a peace sign and inside of it theres a P i haven't seen anywhere with that marking

[@thurin84]

that would be consolidated molded plastics "CMP".

[@phyisck5235]

@@thurin84 ayyy thanks for the help!

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thanks good info. I do remember in the past seeing something about that.

[@chuyenbaychim3199]

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[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thank you

[@chuyenbaychim3199]

@@JonBoyMilitaria ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@thelizardking3807]

Dang it man I should be getting ready for bed

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Lol. Decisions, decisions.

[@mrdeuce7]

P.S. By the way you are an M1 helmet expert!

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

I appreciate you

[@mrdeuce7]

Thank you for your great video! I found out one of my helmets is from Korean and my other is from Viet Nam. Here I thought they were WWII☹️!

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thanks for watching

[@goose33]

Still cool piece of history brother

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Thank you

[@bullranderman]

Don't be sad, that's cool, too !

[@johnfleff]

I was in the Korean war .... I would love to own one ....where can I purchase one? HELP please.

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

You could check ebay or even one of the Military Facebook groups.

[@robertmunoz7543]

Maybe you can do a short vid on why liners are harder to come by then the shells?😳 KPAX?🤪 Jman

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

That's an idea. Thanks for the feedback.

[@AA-xk7gy]

Hey jonboy I recently purchased a helmet off letgo for $5 it’s post ww2 but there’s nothing to identify it by. Is there any way I could send you some pictures on Instagram maybe you might know?

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Yes, that sounds good

[@greghanson407]

I still have my helmet, the liner says it was made in Sept 1973, and this was issued to me in Nov 1973.

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Awesome. Thank you for your service.

[@denisestarr2314]

Whao I had an old liner . WW2 . But it had the woodland cloth cover over the steel pot . My house got robbed and the helment was stolen . Hsa 3 100 bills in the hid in the liner. Hope someone good fins it .

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Sorry that happened to you. Thanks for watching my video.

[@FMJ556]

I have a Korean 80's? m1 helmet liner

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

That's cool

[@minhtampham8570]

Hello

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

@@minhtampham8570 What's up

[@Straight-A-Sophomore]

I have this liner with a logo showing "VB 1955 2" within a circle on the inside of the brim and a white stamp (that's unreadable due to it being mostly worn away) in the center of the crown and I was wondering if you or anyone reading this could tell me where it may have come from because I'm sure it's not American. Also just some general info on it if you can find some. Edit: The "VB" is connected with the back of the B being the right side of the V making it like one letter if that makes sense.

[@JonBoyMilitaria]

Do you have instagram? Could you send me some pictures of it?

[@Straight-A-Sophomore]

@@JonBoyMilitaria afroman95