How To Identify Vintage Ralph Lauren

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LootFam

LootFam

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@damian9303
@damian9303 Жыл бұрын
I work as a stock associate for one of the Polo Ralph Lauren factory stores and for a few months I have noticed new inventory, mainly Polo shirts of novelty design, that sport the older tag with the navy and white boxed Polo logo just like the older shirts I still own of the Polo Ralph Lauren brand. The separate clothings tag doesn’t show the blue with the yellow slim typefont design like the usual ones, instead representing how the more classic style as shown in the attached tag while having the new printed layout to represent the UPC and so on. Their most distinct detail is the fact they still have the QR code to verify the legitimacy.
@damian9303
@damian9303 Жыл бұрын
Otherwise, this video was super informative in customizing out my current wardrobe ignoring that small discrepancy I noticed as a result of a recent regarding their brand change that started slowly since this new year. I like that you have some of the actual clothing to compare on the rack though it would’ve been cool to also see how much these longer worn pieces can be selling upto because of their historic significance towards Ralph Lauren as a fashion designer.
@jracerichards
@jracerichards 8 ай бұрын
​​@@damian9303 Hey Damian I found this white Single Stitch Polar Bear t shirt with a single Blue Tag that says Made in Sri Lanka . Can you tell me if it's from the 90s or 2000s?
@damian9303
@damian9303 8 ай бұрын
@@jracerichardsDepends if it’s the _Navy_ Blue tag with the boxed Polo that’s followed off with “by Ralph Lauren”, does it say the country of origin on the side of the size letter or at the bottom where it’d usually otherwise denote whether if it’s a Classic or Slim Fit? Polo shirts from before early-to-mid 2010s used to have a special tag when purchased new saying in verbatim that the garment was expertly sewn to shrink down to the intended size when washed in laundry hence that style is now referred to as Classic Fit. If it doesn’t have that PO# tag as shown in the video neither, then it can easily be from the late 90s which makes it a true vintage.
@jracerichards
@jracerichards 8 ай бұрын
​​@@damian9303 There a single Blue rectangular tag with the Polo boxed with by Ralph Lauren under that . Under that it says Made in Sri Lanka .On the right side of the tag it says M/M which is the size .The r n number is 41381
@jracerichards
@jracerichards 8 ай бұрын
​@@damian9303 The shirt is also made with Single Stitching ,the way that stitching looks from that Era
@Soul_dead5612
@Soul_dead5612 2 жыл бұрын
I always love going thru the thrift shop and finding a vintage Polo piece. It's rare where I'm at, except for normal Pony shirts. Also love finding Polo at Ross, TJ Maxx etc.
@glasslander
@glasslander 6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! RL vintage is the hardest to date! This video gave me some guidelines which have been most helpful!
@LootFam
@LootFam 5 ай бұрын
You are so welcome!
@ImAWisenheimer
@ImAWisenheimer 3 ай бұрын
I loved a polo rugby back in the day with carpenter jeans and tims
@takeatimeout5538
@takeatimeout5538 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Thank you Thank you On of the most comprehensive Polo Label videos I've watched
@LootFam
@LootFam 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@RichieBEAR88
@RichieBEAR88 3 жыл бұрын
Massive Ralph Lauren Polo fan especially the vintage clothing
@GOILL
@GOILL 5 ай бұрын
For me it was being 13 in 1991 and buying pieces since highschool and never trading with anyone...my sweater closet is kinda crazy.
@UriahKiser
@UriahKiser 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been in this game now for awhile and this was thee best video and information I’ve found yet. Great job it would be awesome if you made a video about champion tags and timeline there are not any good ones out there
@LootFam
@LootFam 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Means a lot! Champion is on my list. Should be soon!
@UriahKiser
@UriahKiser 3 жыл бұрын
@@LootFam awesome that’s great I’ve found two 1940s champion knitwear and three 70s all of which have sold for over 600
@LootFam
@LootFam 3 жыл бұрын
@@UriahKiser Sick! I'm trying to get as much of the champion info in order as I can. Like you said it's sparse out there. I've only ever found champion from the late 60s early 70s. One day though...
@Audra.Craycraft.HomesLlc
@Audra.Craycraft.HomesLlc 23 күн бұрын
I have a half zip sweater Polo Golf Orange Blue cable knit down the sleeves, can’t find another one like it anywhere.
@aissalanetterivas7609
@aissalanetterivas7609 2 ай бұрын
Thank you. Very educational.
@miketaylor4221
@miketaylor4221 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic information sir I appreciate you sharing
@romansyah9525
@romansyah9525 2 жыл бұрын
I have one Vintage polo Sport Ralph Lauren tee like this, color black blue.
@troydeluca6836
@troydeluca6836 Жыл бұрын
This was super helpful, thanks for putting in the time to share so much info!
@Arctika65
@Arctika65 3 жыл бұрын
Just got the shirt at 2:44! So happy I found this
@LootFam
@LootFam 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@M6jimdaddy
@M6jimdaddy 3 жыл бұрын
Great info man! Thanks for the time you invested on this vid.
@MrJwatford
@MrJwatford Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the video! Great job
@SHAZ_ILLYORK
@SHAZ_ILLYORK 2 жыл бұрын
U can’t say that about polo sport because he came back out with it in 2016
@LootFam
@LootFam 2 жыл бұрын
True, though I did mention this issue in the polo sport section. Thanks!
@droan999
@droan999 3 жыл бұрын
Could you do a Disney tags video. So confusing with those ones in specific. A champion tag vid would be awesome
@LootFam
@LootFam 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea! I’m currently working on a champion video. So hopefully soon!
@MuhammadKhan-sk4fr
@MuhammadKhan-sk4fr 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for touching this complicated topic. You did an excellent job. A++++++
@LootFam
@LootFam 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!
@ebayposhman
@ebayposhman 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I’m a big polo fan
@LootFam
@LootFam 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@mynawallin574
@mynawallin574 9 ай бұрын
Any idea about ladie's silk scarves, with stirrups design?
@LootFam
@LootFam 9 ай бұрын
Lots of fakes out there, unfortunately not personally good with the scarves.
@wesleylowe4256
@wesleylowe4256 3 жыл бұрын
Just found a vintage Ralph Lauren sportsman shirt with fishes all over it. Really want to keep it for a while but the comps are looking pretty beefy
@LootFam
@LootFam 3 жыл бұрын
RL sportsman stuff is pretty sweet hard to part with but green is green.
@wesleylowe4256
@wesleylowe4256 3 жыл бұрын
@@LootFam facts. Will probably list it on the high side so I can hold onto it for a while 🤣
@LootFam
@LootFam 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite strategy.
@josiahtombley58
@josiahtombley58 3 жыл бұрын
Super Helpful info! Been looking for a video like this! Thanks
@mandygonzales3680
@mandygonzales3680 5 ай бұрын
I have a polo I’m trying to date. Based upon your video, I believe it’s vintage but wanted to double check. If you don’t mind 😀
@mseg7790
@mseg7790 2 жыл бұрын
I love Polo vintage finds.
@romansyah9525
@romansyah9525 2 жыл бұрын
I have one Vintage polo Sport Ralph Lauren tee like this, color black blue.
@mikoajmadej2977
@mikoajmadej2977 Ай бұрын
Hi, a have a RL Polo Sport leather jacket On mine, unlike most tags you can find, the words "ralph lauren" are changed in places with the words "polo sport" Does it mean it's counterfeit item? Thanks in advance
@LootFam
@LootFam Ай бұрын
So it says Polo Sport where Ralph Lauren should be or the other way around?
@Bluewaterpinessantarosabeach
@Bluewaterpinessantarosabeach 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. I worked for Ralph Lauren, but was picking Ralph from the thrift shops going wayyyy back.Question please? I have a woman’s very light blue denim jacket with a white square label and a white label on the back of right side of waste,it is RLL
@LootFam
@LootFam 2 жыл бұрын
Could you send me a photo to lootfam1@gmail.com?
@Bluewaterpinessantarosabeach
@Bluewaterpinessantarosabeach 2 жыл бұрын
@@LootFam do d you receive photos? K
@malloryhall5106
@malloryhall5106 2 жыл бұрын
This was fabulous and so informative - thanks!!!
@LootFam
@LootFam 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jnlubertconstant15
@jnlubertconstant15 6 ай бұрын
RRL stands for Ralph and Ricky Lauren. His wife name is Ricky Ann Lauren.
@bobbijean8350
@bobbijean8350 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Ralph Lauren country leather vest and I’m having such hard time dating it. It does have a union tag.
@bobbijean8350
@bobbijean8350 3 жыл бұрын
It does say made in the us.
@LootFam
@LootFam 3 жыл бұрын
Could you send me some pictures to lootfam1@gmail.com? Id love to take a look and try to sort it out for you.
@bobbijean8350
@bobbijean8350 3 жыл бұрын
@@LootFam oh ok thank you that would be great!!
@the_lobster
@the_lobster 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this man!
@troydeluca6836
@troydeluca6836 Жыл бұрын
I have a turtle neck knit with POLO JEANS COMPANY across the chest. It only has one old tag on the inside, at the hip, not the neck which says: 95% Acrylic, 5% Lycra MADE IN E.C.C and has 4 wash instruction icons. Is this most likely fake?
@LootFam
@LootFam Жыл бұрын
Probably legit. Polo Jeans Company was much less faked.
@ModernSimple
@ModernSimple 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@LootFam
@LootFam 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!!
@mariarodriguez2382
@mariarodriguez2382 6 ай бұрын
Can you help me identify a vintage Polo by Ralph Lauren shirt with double front pockets with double buttons on each pocket. Plaid men’s long sleeve shirt
@northsidejosh8086
@northsidejosh8086 Жыл бұрын
Hey I got A couple pieces if you were serious. Good video!!!
@colinbernard3542
@colinbernard3542 2 ай бұрын
I have two pairs of Chaps. One says Chaps est.1978 with a tag under it that is made in Bangladesh 100% cotton with a tag under that with the wash instructions and then a bunch of numbers. That one has just a capital "C" in red. The second pair has Chaps Ralph Lauren without est.1978. This pair has a capital "C" and "RL" under it instead of just the capital C. Are they both vintage?
@LootFam
@LootFam 2 ай бұрын
The RL one is, but i doubt the just chaps is.
@hadihossain2032
@hadihossain2032 2 ай бұрын
​@@LootFam I rate the commitment lol of you responding after 3 years, I've tried authenticating one and it seems authentic, you reckon u could check it out 😁 (Sent an email)
@boysandi9375
@boysandi9375 2 ай бұрын
I have jacket polo sport Ralph Lauren
@yessirrrr-n3u
@yessirrrr-n3u 8 ай бұрын
What about for the polo p wing stadium hoodies script logo with the stripes any info on those ? Would really appreciate
@agapikoumpoura5497
@agapikoumpoura5497 Жыл бұрын
Hi! Loved the video. Very helpfull information. I recently started selling online, and all these tags get confusing in trying to put a price on clothes. I found your video because I've been trying to find information on a polo jeans co sweater. I think i will send you an email with pictures. Thank you!
@Ancora256
@Ancora256 3 жыл бұрын
I found polo pieces with a gold dot on the tag. Does that mean anything?
@LootFam
@LootFam 3 жыл бұрын
Could you send a picture of it to me at lootfam1@gmail.com? Nothing immediately comes to mind, but it would be helpful to see it.
@tinadegraffenriedt8949
@tinadegraffenriedt8949 2 жыл бұрын
I used to work for Ralph Lauren (1994-1997). The " Gold Dot" just means it was an item sold at a Ralph Lauren Factory Outlet or a discount clothing store (TJ Maxx, Symm's, Stein Mart, Burlington Coat Factory, etc.) Often it would be items returned from Major Dept. Stores or Specialty Stores to the RL distribution warehouse (because it did not sell) and then redistributed to discount or outlet retailers. This also includes RL second quality items, where the sizing or measurements may be a bit off.
@Ancora256
@Ancora256 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinadegraffenriedt8949 thats great to know when I’m hunting for vintage RL, THANKS TINA!!! 🤙🏼
@astracey1
@astracey1 3 ай бұрын
I'm a little confused or perhaps it's fake.... I've got a Polo Ralph Lauren piece that has the blue label with yellow print, but says it was made in Hong Kong. From what I've read/heard that's the newest label for the line, yet Hong Kong was dissolved in 1997. It does have the Ralph RN# & the embroidered pony seems legit. 🤯
@LootFam
@LootFam 3 ай бұрын
Hong kong was dissolved in 97, the english control over the colony was dissolved. The city state still thrives today.
@SAM-sr3fo
@SAM-sr3fo Жыл бұрын
Hello, I have a green collard shirt with number 3 on sleeve and large USA in orange color across the front looks like a patch with large pony above it. The label is blue but it reads - Ralph Lauren with no horse or word polo on it. When do you think this was made? I do not see any labels like this. Are you familiar?
@vanillaj8883
@vanillaj8883 Жыл бұрын
thank you brother
@AThriftInTime
@AThriftInTime 2 жыл бұрын
I found a cardigan recently that says "Ralph Lauren Sport" on the tag. It's a women's red wool blend cardigan. I can't find any information on the "Ralph Lauren Sport". Is this the same as Polo Sport? Or do you know what era it's from? Thanks!
@LootFam
@LootFam 2 жыл бұрын
It isn't the same as polo sport. Far as I've been able to tell it's a line that occurred a few years after Polo Sport shut down.
@courtneyhosek
@courtneyhosek 2 жыл бұрын
@@LootFam Thank you!
@wheretheskygrows
@wheretheskygrows 3 жыл бұрын
Looking for info on a women's RL "Country" navy sailor-style suit. It's 100% wool, double breasted, 12 gold buttons down the front, 4 gold buttons on each cuff, and a black velvet collar. Does that ring a bell?
@LootFam
@LootFam 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it doesn't. Could you send me some photos of the garments and any tags or labels on it? Lootfam1@gmail.com
@wheretheskygrows
@wheretheskygrows 3 жыл бұрын
@@LootFam yes, will do. Thanks!
@maximilianerdrich6650
@maximilianerdrich6650 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information? Any specific time to date pieces that say "made in Hong Kong"?
@LootFam
@LootFam 2 жыл бұрын
American companies had been manufacturing in Hong Kong for a while. Ralph Lauren had been for some time, so It's hard to use that as a date marker.
@dozercorbin2694
@dozercorbin2694 9 ай бұрын
I found an old razor that has a Ralph Lauren Crest stamped on the end of the handle. It has two lions on either side, the "R" & "L" cursive style letters in the center and the banner at the bottom has "Ralph Lauren" in it. Any help with info on this would be appreciated.
@fattonyrap
@fattonyrap 7 ай бұрын
Great tips
@yessirrrr-n3u
@yessirrrr-n3u 8 ай бұрын
Any thoughts on polo made in Vietnam or Cambodia which one is better
@noah_coble
@noah_coble Жыл бұрын
I have a pair of ralph lauren polo jeans company speedway hayden jeans that I'm trying to find info on. I've been able to find info on speedway jeans but not this particular model. They were produced in mexico, only have one tag, and are button fly. They also have a bit of intentional distressing. Any help would be much appreciated, thanks!
@chewwyyann
@chewwyyann 3 ай бұрын
What about polo sport tag only, no ralp lauren below? Is that created by ralph lauren?
@fite1313
@fite1313 2 жыл бұрын
For now on I'm gonna check to see if you have a vid on a certain brand before seeking info on it anywhere else! I just wish I saw this before I spent all that time searching for info on this Polo Ski Bear 2 button Polo. I do have one question though... can 'Made In Northern Mariana Islands' be used to date Polo Ralph Lauren items? I feel like there was a big labor dispute there around 99-early 00s. But idk if they continued to manufacture there after that.🤷
@LootFam
@LootFam 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to be able to help! I think you could, but I'm not entirely sure that they never produced there again. I remember there being some controversy about labeling products made there "Made in USA" as they are technically a USA commonwealth. I'll look into it. Thanks!
@lolab.2900
@lolab.2900 Жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for the video. I just recently purchased a Ralph Lauren v neck jumper and it has the tag ‘Ralph Lauren Sport’. The stitching of the mallet the horse rider holds seems a bit off. I’m wondering if it’s fake or the line was just discontinued. I can’t find any info about it online.
@joeytrip1
@joeytrip1 2 жыл бұрын
What if it has NO tag on the inside? I'm trying to date a Polo by Ralph Lauren Jacket and I have No idea. It says Polo Sport on the sleeve.
@LootFam
@LootFam 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm. Could you send me some photos to lootfam1@gmail.com. I can probably help. Thanks!
@rileyfernandez8196
@rileyfernandez8196 3 жыл бұрын
Are you able to help me determine the year of a polo long sleeve I have?? I have a few from my grandfather and I know they’re extremely old.
@LootFam
@LootFam 3 жыл бұрын
Sure, email me some photos at lootfam1@gmail.com. Thanks for watching!
@kvista2921
@kvista2921 2 жыл бұрын
Hey fam I was hoping you could help me find out about a polo shirt I found in a thrift shop
@jracerichards
@jracerichards 8 ай бұрын
Hey Josh I found this white Polo Bear t shirt that says Made in Sri Lanka on the blue tag . Can you tell me what year you think it was made? The shirt also is Single Stitch
@LootFam
@LootFam 8 ай бұрын
Sri Lanka is probably and early 2000s era, but could be more recent.
@jracerichards
@jracerichards 8 ай бұрын
​@@LootFam I found out the original run of Polar Bear t shirts ended 2001. The stitching looks like 90s to early 2000s. I have shirts with similar single stitching from the early 2000s
@LootFam
@LootFam 8 ай бұрын
@@jracerichards what kind of tag?
@jracerichards
@jracerichards 8 ай бұрын
​@@LootFamIt's Single Blue Tag with lettering in white .
@jracerichards
@jracerichards 8 ай бұрын
​@@LootFamI've seen the same tag on single stitch Made in the USA Polo T shirts which I know are from the 80s
@brunacaetano5293
@brunacaetano5293 3 жыл бұрын
hi! i found an american flag sweater with the tag "ralph lauren sport" made in china. do u know anything about this label? i couldn't find any information about it
@LootFam
@LootFam 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm. Could you send me some pictures of it to lootfam1@gmail.com. I'd love to check it out!
@dwfinds3030
@dwfinds3030 2 жыл бұрын
I've have a couple vintage-looking polo by ralph lauren & polo country. They have Care tags on the front of the button up shirt under lowest button. Was that a thing? They are a pretty rugged material.
@LootFam
@LootFam 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm. I don't think I've ever seen that. Interesting. If you want, you can send me photos to lootfam1@gmail.com. I'd love to see.
@dwfinds3030
@dwfinds3030 2 жыл бұрын
@@LootFam Will do, it really odd but everything else looks correct so its really throwing me. I hate toss good stuff but also don't want to list something fake.
@msbrooksism
@msbrooksism 2 жыл бұрын
@@LootFam I just bought 3 shirts today with the same thing. Having a hard time dating them.
@emilyweible3623
@emilyweible3623 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I’m trying to find some information about a Chaps by Ralph Lauren sport coat I found. It’s got a white tag with a western font reading “CHAPS by Ralph Lauren” 100% wool with woven buttons. I’ve only seen one similar tag on Etsy so I’m trying to figure out what year it’s from. Do you have any idea?
@LootFam
@LootFam 3 жыл бұрын
Could you send me a picture of it to lootfam1@gmail.com? I’d love to check it out.
@poloyoung7099
@poloyoung7099 3 жыл бұрын
Hey i have just baught an polo purple label polo pony. It says supplier 11043 and season 144-FA14 Does this mean that this is from year 2014?
@LootFam
@LootFam 3 жыл бұрын
I’d need to see a picture to be certain, but look like it was from the fall collection in 2014. Email me pictures if you want to lootfam1@gmail.com. Thanks!
@poloyoung7099
@poloyoung7099 3 жыл бұрын
@@LootFam Okay thank you! I have sent it!
@elizabethsettle6648
@elizabethsettle6648 Жыл бұрын
My label is navy blue stitched with neural thread Ralph (picture of horse) Lauren… how old? Women’s sweater
@LucidSunset
@LucidSunset 9 ай бұрын
I have some shirt with a single tag but what does the letter or letter nunber combo behind the care tag mean? For instance i have one that says MW9 and another with just a W. Feels random but in sure it means something.
@teresalenaandprincessthedog
@teresalenaandprincessthedog 3 жыл бұрын
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@LootFam
@LootFam 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting us know!
@schm0sbyy
@schm0sbyy Жыл бұрын
I found a rather interesting harrington jacket from Ralph Lauren but I can't find other information regarding it. Do you, by any chance, have an information regarding the "Ralph Lauren Polo Sportsman (Suppliers of Quality Outdoor Apparel)"? It has an embroidered logo of two flying ducks instead of the usual Ralph Lauren logo (man on a horse). It is also made in Singapore which is kind of rare as I don't usually see any RL made in Singapore. Also, it doesn't have a wash tag inside.
@RAA10382
@RAA10382 8 ай бұрын
Are you referring to the mallard duck knit sweater?
@schm0sbyy
@schm0sbyy 8 ай бұрын
@@RAA10382 i searched mallar duck but it's not entirely the same i guess. although i found out that the one i was looking for was a vintage piece which was now defunct.
@geehad6459
@geehad6459 9 ай бұрын
You the man.
@Nicole73672
@Nicole73672 9 ай бұрын
I have a pair of wool pants that say Ralph lauren Sampe, made in Hong Kong. I got them in with a bunch of hand me downs from my cousin. She lived just outside of Manhattan and was in college for fashion design. Ironically Does anyone have anymore info. I can provide pics
@SWSSCHSBNDTS
@SWSSCHSBNDTS 3 жыл бұрын
You rock man! I want you for president 🤝😎
@LootFam
@LootFam 3 жыл бұрын
“Make vintage great again”
@rizzworvy1000
@rizzworvy1000 2 жыл бұрын
How do you date ur long slv button downs? & Sweaters?
@LootFam
@LootFam 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the time I just use some of the methods in the video, but sometimes there isn't a way to be really specific on a date. You just have to get a general range or era from the methods discussed in the video. Thanks!
@unclekaty
@unclekaty 3 жыл бұрын
This is sweet! Nice work 🙌🏻
@jasperbrunner1836
@jasperbrunner1836 Жыл бұрын
Hey I send you an email, with some photos of an vintage ralph lauren item, i ready liked the video. 👍
@FightMang36
@FightMang36 Жыл бұрын
Chaps- couldve. Had. A. Polo. Shirt. 🤣😂
@MIND9988T
@MIND9988T 2 жыл бұрын
Hoddie Loot Fam. I need some help with Ralph Lauren pants. I sent you an email. Hopefully, you have the time to respond. By the way, you r everywhere in the cyber world. I got this video through Google search ✌️
@prozeeterps
@prozeeterps Жыл бұрын
none of this is vintage bruh vintage is 50 years old antique 100 why does everyone call it vintage lmao
@LootFam
@LootFam Жыл бұрын
Nah man, the market has spoken. 20 years is the widely accepted definition of vintage in clothing.
@williammack5747
@williammack5747 9 ай бұрын
These re releases will become the new vintage.. I like the new I'm not breaking the bank or stressing to get vintage 🤑🤑
@dreescalera9145
@dreescalera9145 4 ай бұрын
Brother you got in Instagram ?
@LootFam
@LootFam 4 ай бұрын
@lootfamvtg
@dreescalera9145
@dreescalera9145 4 ай бұрын
@@LootFam heck yeah. I’ve got a couple I could use clarifications if you’re able
@chewwyyann
@chewwyyann 3 ай бұрын
What about polo sport tag only, no ralp lauren below? Is that created by ralph lauren?
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