How To Improve Your Double Stroke Roll

[@DrumApe]

As many of you rightfully noted in the comments, this is Moeller's technique. This came as a surprise to me, as I've mostly played by George L. Stone's "Stick Control", "Accents and Rebounds" and then Joe Morello's "Advanced Studies", all of which I highly recommend if you didn't know about them already. However, I think the Moeller's technique, which deals with a three stroke cycle, is only a part of the video. To me at least, the Moeller's technique comes into play at faster speeds, where rebound can dictate the consequential movement of the stick, using the leftover energy produced by the first hit. But in my experience of teaching mostly complete beginners - people who've never held a stick before - Moeller's technique could only be applied once you've developed your wrist motion and learned to unlock it without losing grip of the fulcrum. Hence, I wanted to break down in detail the initial stroke itself, by showing the importance of the hidden upstroke involved. Advanced players might not find this useful because they have developed their sense of rebound and resonance, as well as control over their wrists so long ago, that it becomes natural to them and they assume everyone should be able to pick it up. In my opinion, technique cannot be claimed, rather it can be discovered, as it all comes down to where physics and the laws of motion coincide with the limitations and capabilities of the human body. Let me know your thoughts in the comments. Cheers and thanks for watching!

[@Sol_Badguy_GG]

You're absolutely right. A technique is not the property of someone but rather created by the need of a person. There have been many times in a lot of different arts and sports were people have been using a certain technique that came to them naturally and discovered later that the technique they're using has already a name and was used by someone first and they had absolutely no idea.

[@weareallbeingwatched4602]

There are a lot of ways to play on the upstroke and the downstroke, and there were a lot of drummers before Moeller wrote his books.

[@onebadhombre7158]

@@Sol_Badguy_GG José Luis Quintana “Changuito” has stated that technique comes to you naturally with slow practice and time

[@Sol_Badguy_GG]

@@onebadhombre7158 I don't know who that is but technique comes to you when you need it.

[@joetroutt7425]

George L Stone's stick control was my go to book I learned my rudiments from.

[@davisone76]

Listen man you have really got something here. I have never been successful at the double stroke but I am still a decent drummer. This explanation and technique is the best I have ever seen. Thank you for making this video.

[@DrumApe]

Thanks Uhhhchris?, that really puts a smile on my face! Good luck and cheers!

[@mikeingman4841]

Very well done this method has proven to be one of the best, I'm re learning it after many years of not playing the drums.. I appreciate I appreciate people putting things like this on KZbin it really helps a lot of us out thanks again

[@DrumApe]

You are welcome, Mike Ingman!

[@subiegal8428]

Better known as the Moeller stroke 😁 Explained by the greatest... The one and only, DrumApe 💙💛💙

[@DrumApe]

Aaand you’re back! Thanks Subie Gal!

[@subiegal8428]

@@DrumApe glad to see you back too 💙💛💙

[@francisconovello5305]

Never saw such a comprehensive explanation like this one on the subject. This is a treasure. Tk you so much.

[@DrumApe]

Thanks for your kind words, means a lot.

[@Robbinsoul_Cruzzo]

This video helped my doubles almost immediately! I would love for you to show some techniques that help with fluidity around the kit :) I am your fan from now on and my biggest learning resource as your explanations dive deep and focus on details. As we all know the Devil is in the details and you've helped me so much already and I've only watched 3 videos and found out I'll need to re learn my singles first then move onto doubles. Also Kick pedal video was amazing !! Keep doing the great job !!

[@vincentsantarelli6915]

really great demo,all the details are there.

[@DrumApe]

Hi Vincent, many thanks!

[@sandunbandara894]

Excellent explanation 🤩

[@DrumApe]

Hi Sandun thanks!

[@lionelvillahermosa653]

EXCELLENT BEAUTIFUL AMAZING SUBLIME INMORTAL 🎼 🥁 🎶 🎵

[@kimbeomcheol]

A detail Lesson awesome

[@DrumApe]

Hi Bum Tube, thanks!

[@musicloverrythamist5821]

❤❤❤

[@gkcook63]

What size/brand of stick do you recommend for drum line

[@DrumApe]

Hi gkcook63, I'm really not the person to ask about drum line. To my understanding these sticks are much heavier and robust. Maybe look at thomann.de (if in EU) they have pretty much everything. Good luck!

[@drummingninja1065]

I'm seeing the Moeller technique.

[@DrumApe]

That technique has always been hard for me, so that’s actually a nice compliment to me! Thanks for watching!

[@topa1798]

Smashhh!!!

[@tootallforbaseball]

Learn to play with follow through. No secondary finger snapping necessary. You don’t snap the fingers at tempo, so there is no reason to do it at slower tempos.

[@DrumApe]

Hi John, thanks for your comment. Not sure what you mean though, perhaps you could elaborate?

[@tootallforbaseball]

@Drum Ape When you play a double stroke roll at tempo, you don't have time to use finger snaps for the secondary note of the double. If you needed them at all, you would need them at all tempos, but that is not the case. Using finger snaps at faster tempos only results in uneven strokes. Using fingers at slow tempos only means that you are not working well enough with the rebound of the stick to allow the stick to bounce evenly. Developing finger control is important, yes, but in this instance, it is unnecessary. You can play a double stroke roll at 80 bpm with 16th notes smoothly without using fingers if you work with the rebound. I call it "follow through," because you end up bending at the wrist a little more than absolutely necessary to make contact with the head. I have a few videos out on the topic.

[@DrumApe]

Hi John, thanks for your comment. I understand what you're saying, but please, keep in mind this video was particularly targeted at people who struggle with rebound and tense up. Most people don't realise there's an upstroke involved and my aim here was to reveal precisely that. All this research is based on hundreds of lessons I taught to complete beginners and amateurs and it's worked really great so far. Hence, I decided to make this video to maybe help others. There are many ways to do doubles if you use the rebound to full advantage and your point is more than valid.

[@tootallforbaseball]

@@DrumApe Ok, but I would urge you to consider an easier way. Beginners will struggle with this method. As you get more experienced, the secondary beat is used more for shuffle patterns and funk patterns, and it is important to have that skill. This is much like riding a bike: once you get a feel for working with the rebound, there is no need for the secondary accenting and finger snapping. I have made videos on this very thing: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nXrSd5qMls2LeqM kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2GnhKFpi8p9fZI and kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIuuY2x7ptp7aJo This is a much easier approach--both on you and a young student. Let me know your thoughts.

[@DrumApe]

@@tootallforbaseball I don't claim this to be a method and from my experience beginners struggle with any technique. I've also found that developing the wrists first is paramount as most people who've never played before have a hard time opening up the wrist without letting the fulcrum go as well. But don't take my word for it - check out "Stick Control" and "Accents and Rebounds" by George L. Stone. I also saw your videos and I think you're doing what most people on KZbin do - you play the double stroke roll and assume, that by saying what you can do they will just pick it up and magically start to do it. My experience shows that breaking the process down and putting the attention on the upstroke between bounces yields best results, especially with beginners. Thanks for your comments and point of view though. I'm sure people reading these comments and checking out your videos will appreciate them as well.

[@rasermadison]

all I can hear is the guy talking in other words the guy talks too loud

[@mbaroneva76]

I’m coming back to drumming after a 20 year break. My left hand is awful, just awful. Working through my rudiments and building my hands back up along with limb independence. This is a phenomenal refresher on the double stroke roll. Thank you so much.

[@DrumApe]

Welcome back!

[@akrause2004]

Bro, you're **LITERALLY** telling my story. It's actually embarrassing how much atrophy I've experienced in my left hand. The stick is constantly slipping out of my pinch because my "drumstick" muscles (both sides of the thumb at the hand) is non existent anymore. I'm super pissed at myself but not letting it stop me from getting back. It's gonna take a solid year of pad practice to get anywhere close to where I was in my 20's. I've also got tons of motivation now as my son (11yrs old) is now playing and taking lessons. We'll do it together!

[@DrumApe]

So glad, let me know if I can help

[@mbaroneva76]

@@akrause2004, it get better. I had the same issue, extreme weakness especially in my left hand. Problems dropping the stick while trying to maintain a loose grip. You really have to slow yourself down and build it back up. I have four kids, mortgage, the whole midlife deal so practice time is sparing. I’ve still been able to get a good amount of confidence back with only four hours or so of practice a week while also trying to explore some new ideas. Just enjoy being back on a kit. My wife had to remind me that I’m not going pro and this is supposed to be fun. 😂

[@gvn2fly96]

In the same boat as you!

[@AliciaLopez-rx8vz]

I’ve been paying for online drum lessons and this right here is the BEST explanation I’ve seen so far for doubles. And totally FREE! Thanks so much for sharing this with the public. Excellent teacher 👍🏽

[@DrumApe]

Wow! Thanks for the kind words!

[@richardlong419]

FINALLY! This explanation for double strokes, is by FAR, the best one out there! I know, because I’ve seen ‘em ALL! So thank You for this video!

[@DrumApe]

Wow thanks Richard, that really means a great deal to me!

[@dedballoons]

Having never had actual drum lessons, I've struggled with double-strokes the 20-ish years I've been playing in terms of getting them powerful and even. Until right now I never once heard about inverting it and accenting the "double" to dupe being even. That's brilliant and I am only 39 seconds into this video. And I guess about 5 minutes away from running off to my kit.

[@DrumApe]

It takes some time but once you get it it’s for life. Just remember to pinch with the fingers while keeping the wrist open and you should be fine. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@myak5754]

For me it's helped thinking in "paradiddles" but accenting certain parts. Like this: parAdiDLE. Or, easier to think, one AND two AND.

[@DrumApe]

It’s a pretty good idea

[@joetroutt7425]

I like the technique of this double stroke roll and it's application to beginners. It seems exaggerated but it fully explains how it works and how to get it faster with complete control.

[@DrumApe]

So glad you said that, thanks!

[@joelbrown6411]

Great tutorial! I however did not " smash" the like button. Almost everybody does that. Can't " smack like now!" Cause that's Davy's thing. So I " stroked it like now!" You wanna be a drummer. You gotta get that stroke. Just sayin'.

[@TruthAndMoreTruth]

I bet the the 6 people who disliked this video use French grip (thumbs up), and could not use this technique. Incredible break down... THANK YOU for this!

[@DrumApe]

Hope I didn’t disappoint them too much lol.. thanks for watching!

[@Maelthorn1337]

Nice clean, concise, well written and edited video! But please don't ask me to like it or give you money before I've even seen it. :v

[@mamamamarino]

I would like to congratulate you on making a 5 minute video that is only 5:35 long. Too many of these instructional videos have 3 minutes of useful content but are 8-12 minutes long. Oh, and thanks for a great video. Can't wait to start working on this!

[@DrumApe]

Hi Matt, thanks! This one turned out very compact and complete at the same time.. thanks for watching!

[@TheBollibolli]

u have a right grip, no hole between thumb and index.. but it still works? is it fine to not have the space? bcus i find it more easier not to have the space, what do you think?

[@thenerdofthenorth8205]

I keep having this issue where my second tap dominates the first and I feel as if I'm using too much power in it. Makes it more difficult to make it sound relatively smooth when I speed it up a little. Anyone got any advice to combat this?

[@tuknchuk]

It's not easy to comment without seeing you play... but, it sounds like the main solution is to keep going, practice more and increase the tempo gradually... bc as you get faster and faster, it's nearly impossible to play the second tap louder... thus why the 2 notes start to sound more even. I also have an exercise that I made up for myself and students where you play 4 rights, then 4 lefts... for a while or just a couple of measures... then switch to 3 strokes per hand... and then switch to 2 strokes per hand. I also do (4, 2, 3, 2). The idea behind the exercise is to not think of doubles as a bounce... but get you to think of 2 strokes with one hand like 2 separate single strokes... the same as you would if you played 8 or 4 or 3 strokes on the right hand. For some reason we cheat the energy we put behind the 2nd stroke and make it lighter. So, lot so exercises get invented to combat this issue. All the best

[@ZacharyTabick]

I’ve never had this explained to me better. This is the best example and explanation I’ve ever seen… and I teach drums for a living. Thank you so much.

[@DrumApe]

Thanks Zachary, that means a lot to me.

[@Jas-ux8br]

Excellent tutorial mate..thanks for the great technique 👍

[@Blackness_78]

Im know how to play basic notes on the snare drum however I can’t even drum roll

[@musicloverrythamist5821]

Sir, how many days should you exercise?

[@ad-drumcovers99]

I could practice these for 5 years and still suck at drumming. Thank goodness there’s folks out there who know what the hell they’re doing 🙏🙏🙏

[@kartheebanmuthuswamy3100]

OMG! That was very very useful for me!! Thank you so much for sharing this with us🙂 Actually I can able to understand clearly... After seeing this video instantly SUBSCRIBED🙂🙂🙂

[@DrumApe]

Hi Kartheeban, I am so glad you liked it and very kind of you to say so.

[@kartheebanmuthuswamy3100]

😊😊Actually I can very clearly able to understand what u are saying!! AGAIN THANK YOU BROTHER!! 😊

[@CasamTheAnimator]

You can also do double stroke roll using rebound. Rebound is when you drop something solid on for example a table it jumps few times and the jump height decreases and decrease and you may also see it jumping faster when the jump is lower until until it's stable and doesn't jump again, depending on the material, it can be strong or weak, if you drop something like a stick on a table it will keep jumping and jumping until it stopped it's now standing on the table, so a hard material gives efficient rebound, so if you drop a stick on a pillow or a couch you don't get much rebound since both couch and pillow are soft, but when you play on a concrete, wood, metal or anything that is hard and solid you get a great rebound.

[@DrumApe]

😂 you’re trolling me

[@Piraja]

Good, but you should be in silence for a moment for us to hear the sounds

[@jumpropestairs6129]

Sleep on it was good advice because the subconscious mind resets everything at night, provided you hit it hard the next day, for 45 minutes.

[@calebbrown6678]

I still have trouble with my double strokes

[@radiancefitness]

Subscribed. Amazing breakdown.

[@juanargueta5988]

This seems super hard lol i started playing like 2 months ago never took classes never touched a drum before so im really slow but hopefully with practice ill get some speed

[@DrumApe]

Just takes time and persistence

[@vapeoreon1525]

This has been such a help, especially with my left hand, what practice pad are you using ?

[@DrumApe]

Hi Vapeoren, I’m using a DW practice pad “tree”. Had it for a long time. Pretty sure there are other alternatives by now.

[@humb1s3rvant]

Great in depth instruction. My best explanation is "bounce it twice on each hand". Stick control and height. Muscle memory. Practice, practice, practice.

[@alanross2876]

If you are proficient with the double stroke roll should it be faster than singles? The problem is I have no bloody use for a double stroke roll until that is possible.

[@DrumApe]

Hi Alan! Actually I think it's best if you practice doubles and singles at the same speed. Let's say 16 hits singles followed by 16 hits doubles. Then 8 hits singles, 8 hits doubles. Then 4 hits singles, 4 hits doubles. This is a concept from Stick Control and is genius, because it allows you to switch from one to the other, making the integration in your regular playing possible. Also, I think technically you should be able to reach higher speed using doubles, but in my experience and for real life applications, I think it's best to be able to reach the same speed with either sticking. I might make a video on this thanks for the idea!

[@pdxfunk]

I'm about a month or 2 into doing doubles practice like this almost every day for 20 minutes or more and finally getting some good doubles! For some reason my weak hand (left) "Learned" how to unlock and snap the wrist over years of doing little doubles here and there on the snare, but my strong hand (right) just did NOT want to let the wrist unlock to get the "pop" needed to get these doubles to work. I have finally powered through this issue though! It really does pay to take it slow and work your way up.

[@DrumApe]

Absolutely. Just keep at it.

[@pdxfunk]

@@DrumApe for sure! And I know I've said it before but this video is the best on KZbin for this topic! Cheers man!

[@jacevanriper2008]

Outstanding demonstration and tutorial. Thank you!

[@DrumApe]

Hey Jace Van Riper, thanks a lot!

[@nickferrence8593]

Wow what a great and thorough explanation of technique. I subscribed instantly. Thanks

[@DrumApe]

Thanks, Nick! I appreciate that!

[@darrensucksatgames]

A lot of the extra mechanics of the motion of a rebound stroke are natural. Get out of the way of the stick and practice individual double strokes without the roll and all of these motions will come naturally without feeling forced. This is why Buddy Rich always recommended the Rebound Stroke to all drummers of different skill levels.

[@musicloverrythamist5821]

Sir, how many days should you exercise?

[@DrumApe]

Depends.. as many as you can

[@onebadhombre7158]

This is one of the best doubles videos ever!!! Thanks!

[@DrumApe]

Hi One Bad Hombre, thanks for the great comment! I am very glad you thought so. Cheers!

[@onebadhombre7158]

@@DrumApe I play my doubles by using the push-pull technique. As I go faster, my wrist motion lessens and my arm motion increases slightly. I move my arm slightly forward/down to initial the first bounce. I then use my fingers to bring the sticks in for the second bounce. Is that correct?

[@edwincatacutan5277]

Just wow! Thank you very much. I wish I saw this vid like 20 years earlier haha

[@DrumApe]

Never too late my friend, we’re all in the same boat :)

[@sanandrea490]

The two strokes sound uneven with this technique though..

[@jsullivan2112]

Yup. Now the second stroke sounds too loud.

[@neurocosm]

This is the most comprehensive I have seen the technique explained. I will use the example terminaology with my students. Thank you! "STAY LOOSE" :)

[@timholzheuer]

What a great video. Never saw an explanation like this. Thank you so much!!!

[@DrumApe]

Hi Tim, thanks for saying that. Cheers!

[@mjm5081]

Thank you for sharing! Liked/Subscribed/Shared...Happy Drumming 😃

[@superdave1964]

i treat it as im pulling the sound out of the drum

[@DrumApe]

Yes very good way to think about and approach it

[@Green89_]

Thai is so hard for me

[@tonypepperoni3157]

Excellent video

[@inderajaya]

Thanks

[@nokia-gm8gv]

daymmm

[@klasandren3720]

Superb video, thanks

[@DrumApe]

So nice of you.

[@sifugurusensei]

Come again?

[@espadaphotography]

Wow thanks

[@ppgprops]

Damn... subbed.

[@stephensweeney5331]

Best double-stroke roll tutorial I've ever seen.

[@DrumApe]

Best comment I’ve had in awhile

[@stephensweeney5331]

@@DrumApe I mean it! can't wait to watch the rest of your videos, now that I've found this gem!

[@farisikhmal4868]

i can't

[@topa1798]

This is the holy grail 🙌🏻

[@jasjas4253]

Hey this is the video if anyone here wants to master double stroke or anything else for that matter. I watched other videos but this one is for me. Recommended to anyone .

[@dominiquez5643]

TOP OF THE LINE MAN !! (This is for beginners !! Unlike a few other beginner videos I saw). You are amazing but man, the way you explain things in detail, the very best videos on single and double stroke from 50 that I watched so far !! THANK YOU for demystifying it !

[@DrumApe]

Hey Dominique, thanks so much for your kind words! I am very glad you found this useful, thanks for watching!

[@dominiquez5643]

@Drum Ape keep 'em coming Mr Ape, I loved the one on how to improve high hat sound ! Simply amazing watching how clear and humble you explain things !! Very grateful with your help, support and time dedicated to the videos. 20 yr guitar player with 2 weeks of drumming at 53yo haha

[@roysunmarak8505]

❤

[@govindahalade6587]

Biggg fan yours 😘😘😘👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🤝🏻

[@DrumApe]

So kind of you

[@TonyMontana-yj6rx]

Is this not the moeler technique?

[@DrumApe]

I guess it is. Lots of people have been saying this, that’s why I put the pinned message. In my mind it’s always been stick control, but I trust my audience. Cheers

[@SchlagzeugAndreasRauch]

thats not right

[@LucasCoolDude]

Wdym

[@jammingsband5174]

This really helps me

[@jakonishrohith6462]

Such a perfect advice❤️👍

[@DrumApe]

Hi Jakonish, thanks!

[@ajithbabu9169]

Sir I Subscribed

[@DrumApe]

Thanks Ajith, I appreciate it!

[@neverenough71]

Great breakdown. Subscribed.

[@jamesmoore-ps8ro]

I made a donation, received the link, but was unable to open it. ??

[@DrumApe]

Getting on it right away

[@DrumApe]

I just sent you the exercises via email. Not sure why the link didn't work, sorry about that. The files are jpegs so they should easily open with lots of applications.

[@jimmoore1661]

@@DrumApe All set, thanks Georgi!!!!

[@Johnwick789]

อธิบายได้เคลียร์มาก very good

[@DrumApe]

ขอบคุณมาก!

[@jeyjurist16]

Thanks for this bro

[@DrumApe]

Hi Jey, you're welcome.

[@MrFatdaz]

Great explanation

[@DrumApe]

Thanks MrFatdaz!

[@Chiroman527]

Very Good Tutorial on stick control. I'm 69 years old, returning to playing drums after a 50 year Hiatus for FUN and a Hobby in Retirement. I am simply grateful to keep the beat and offer some enhancements to fills while playing MY MUSIC (Old , Basic Rock ). Took lessons (maybe 10 or so ) back in 1966. I play by ear and do not read music , other than basic drum measures. I do need to practice more to attain at least half this speed..... THX again. Be safe all and Enjoy the Drums...

[@DrumApe]

Hi Aldo, thanks for your kind words. I appreciate you saying that because a lot of people said it was Moeller haha. I encourage you to dig deeper into reading more complex drum notation as well as other styles like latin and fusion as that would surely make you a better drummer. Keep rocking!

[@4stringbloodyfingers]

good quality video. thank you

[@govindahalade6587]

Superb 👆🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻 i like it

[@DrumApe]

Thanks Govinda Halade!

[@thekings6128]

You a really helpful, I like the way you explain the subject. If you keep on doing this, you will have alot of subscribers.❤God bless❤

[@DrumApe]

Thank you, Peniel Lupain, that's very kind of you.

[@abarishyperborean9656]

Cool video

[@DrumApe]

Thanks, Abaris!

[@chathurahettihewa3244]

Tank sir

[@DrumApe]

You're welcome, Chathura

[@davidfernandez3197]

Thank you, this is the best video I’ve found. Right now I just bought a drum pad and I’m looking for exercises to practice. Sadly, I broke my thumb and have a cast. but I’m excited to take it off so I could start practicing

[@DrumApe]

So sorry for your thumb.. When the cast goes off, take your time and slowly build it up.

[@Acorn18]

So well explained! Thank you. As a beginner I've watched so many videos on techniques I should be practicing and the more I investigate, the murkier it gets. This video has really given me a clear exercise to focus on where I can see the benefit. Thank you. You mentioned push pull technique is similar but needs to be explained in a different video. Would you consider making a video on this too!? :-)

[@DrumApe]

I’m so glad this video helped you, so nice of you to say. Push pull technique should definitely be a topic for a future video, although I don’t feel I’m proficient enough with that particular technique, at least not as good as some other people’s videos I’ve seen on KZbin. But I’ll think about it, thanks for your comment.

[@remotexpolde]

This was awesome. Cheers!!

[@DrumApe]

Hey Jess Vera, thanks a lot! Cheers :)

[@adityatyagi4009]

Great info but you talk too damn fast.

[@DrumApe]

English is not my native language, so that's actually a compliment! Thanks for watching :)

[@adityatyagi4009]

@@DrumApe Your English is better than that of many native speakers!

[@gloriajames3334]

Thanks a lot! This video was really helpful for me in learning to play double stroke as I was struggling with it!

[@DrumApe]

Hi Gloria, so glad to hear this! Thanks for saying something :)

[@donnypatoine4475]

Great video. Mentioning that many don't relax their wrist after the second stroke was a good observation I believe that's exactly what's keeping me below 160 bpm, been at that barrier for awhile now.

[@DrumApe]

I think so too, if а muscle is constantly contracted it gets strained and becomes numb, loosing all feeling and control. It can take it, but for short bursts. Cheers

[@boobizzy4173]

Thanks brother! You demonstrate it very well so I can understand it🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️

[@DrumApe]

So glad to hear this, thanks Boo Bizzy!

[@nitram_nosnibor]

Wow this is so well explained, it made so much sense to me. I cannot wait until I get home later and start doing this - thank you SO much I love your videos 👍🏻

[@DrumApe]

Amazing words Martin, thanks

[@KevinDePreeMusic]

Great video!

[@DrumApe]

Hi Kevin, thanks!

[@mdp303]

This is great. Thanks👍👏🏽

[@DrumApe]

So glad you liked it!

[@FunFamilyZone]

Instantly subscribed! If I do decide to get deeper into drumming I’m buying lessons here.

[@DrumApe]

Very kind of you, thanks! Let me know when you do.

[@tuknchuk]

Great Video !!!!

[@roguehk]

Wow - this is truly awesome. My double strokes are terrible, but your method here is so easy to understand and very logical. I can't wait to start shedding tomorrow! Thank you so much!

[@DrumApe]

Hi Kenny, it makes me so happy to hear this. Don't rush it, give it time and consider stretching before and after practice sessions. Good luck!

[@kevinfrederick3803]

That's about as detailed as I've seen. Very well spoken and just plain professional if u ask me. Thank you Drum Ape

[@DrumApe]

Thanks Kevin, really appreciate that!

[@metaldrummer1977]

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[@DrumApe]

It's a long way if you wanna rock and roll :D