Double Strokes Explained - EXTREMELY IMPORTANT Drumming Technique

[@td-12kx53]

One of the most important fine techniques to learn in drumming, and yet it is the one with the fewest videos on KZbin. There are only a handful of good videos which teach this technique well. This is definitely one of them.

[@chezchezchezchez]

Care list those few? Yer killing us!

[@enriquevillafane6258]

@@chezchezchezchez Gordy Knudson`s push/pull videos work a similar approach.

[@ADAMKTN]

Yes sir. Drum Dog, Ralph Rolle. Awesome guy and walkthrough

[@drummer825]

Man; thank you for this lesson. I’ve been playing forever but I’ve ALWAYS felt like my doubles are so sloppy and inconsistent. This is so awesome.

[@deant8562]

Josh, for all the "lessons" and videos I have watched on finger technique and practicing doubles, your video is one of the best I've seen at explaining, demonstrating, and showing different angles of your grip and use of the fingers. Absolutely awesome! Thanks! (and I had NO idea your video wasn't "scripted"!)

[@anatolijd]

This is the most accurate explanation of the natural mechanics for push-pull strokes! it just awesome. Thanks a lot!

[@azguitar]

Very well-thought out and useful lesson. Thank you!

[@JPlock13]

This is the best explanation I've seen for the double stroke! And the initial exercise really helps to get the feeling. Thanks!

[@SatinCamaro]

Thank you for a great lesson. My singles are good but just starting to understand doubles and the importance of finger placement/movement..... thanks again!

[@soldierlen]

This is excellent nuggets of informationMy brother

[@jc3drums916]

I recently came upon the UNT percussion department's snare drum requirements. Their minimum tempo for double strokes to graduate is 32nd notes at 132 BPM. This is faster than I am able to play using the technique you demonstrated here (which I also do, to make my doubles more even), because it's too difficult to minimize the movement enough. I find it easier to play that fast by using only the middle finger, which also happens to be how I was originally taught. Kinda makes sense, if you think about it: the further from the fulcrum you get, the longer the arc the stick makes at that point. So if you want the minimize the amount of movement your fingers make, you should control the sticks as close to the fulcrum as possible. Luckily, I've never had a musical need to play doubles that fast.

[@DritzWolfIcecream]

Best lesson and teacher ever, Thank u!

[@jilips]

Just wanna drop back in after roughly a year of practising this and I have to say thank you for teaching me doubles :)

[@peteharman1061]

This is so worth a look, excellent work

[@jimboyle4934]

Been doing this to teach my traditional grip hand to match grip, this is easier said than done, but I like your approach 🍻

[@joeg4707]

I like that splash stand (e.g. second tom). 😁

[@fabriziofonseca4207]

Yeah bro, well explained.

[@manusharma8777]

Wow!

[@elfurrohetero3518]

The nipple gong 💀

[@timdaniel1932]

The back finger exercise is brilliant! Not seen that one before. Thanks Josh.

[@Aerobob42]

Not seen this before either. Must give it a go. Been struggling with doubles forever.

[@michimischtmit3384]

Which pattern is he playing at the end or in the beginning?

[@b4b516]

Groove notation?

[@bentheman2348]

I wanna know the sticking for that groove you keep playing (11:15)

[@rytchbytchrockingclub3867]

just set the video to .75 speed and take notes.

[@RageMachineAgainst]

I don't mess with computers, okay?

[@ritabrooks9059]

This is what 95% of Double Stroke videos do not discuss. He did a great job in demonstrating it. Thanks!!

[@Coastfog]

I've been practicing non-stop for the past six weeks and I'm *so* happy with the progress I've made. Haven't had this much fun making music in all of my 37 years and almost 20 of drumming. I can play things cleanly and consistently I couldn't imagine even trying half a year ago. That being said - your approach flipped a switch in my head. There's a time before and after, because after trying this for just a couple minutes, it felt like I never did anything else. This might be one of the single most important lessons I've learned while grinding *everything* , so thank you very much indeed!

[@justinblaise4176]

You know it's a great video when it makes you realize even simple is complicated. I liked the unscripted feel. Felt like a fireside chat. Very present.

[@ARandomGuy]

that little exercise is extremely useful I struggled with understanding the actual motion of double stroke but I finally got it after doing it a few times thanks a lot

[@mshambaPGrated]

Been playing drums since I was 6, but only for fun. Could hold a steady 4/4 with the basic fills moving down the kit and ending with a crash. Started a 3 man band 4 years ago as a hobby and to jam with my friends in my free time (I'm now 30), and only last year because of Covid, I really had a lot of time to learn more about drumming. I literally found myself going through all the basics; like how to hold the stick correctly, working on basic rudiments like double stroke rolls, paradiddles and 6 stroke rolls, tuning the drums, reading basic sheet music, etc. I still have a long way to go, but it fascinates me how much these basic tools help in playing. 1 year made a hell of a lot of difference! All this knowledge is out here on youtube, and people like you spend a lot of time doing the dirty work so that the content is available for the rest of us. I have this bank of information, and all I have to do is keep working on these fundamental concepts and rudiments to allow me to physically orchestrate them on the drum set and have them sound good. I've been watching your videos often, and I just want to thank you (and others like you) from the bottom of my heart for taking the time and effort to get these highly informative videos out. You have definitely earned a subscriber and hopefully one day I can get good enough to teach you something!!

[@Comrade.Question]

So is the Moeller technique the same thing as this? I'm confused about the difference between that and a simple double stroke.

[@charcola66]

Damn! Something I haven't learned in the past 2 years in drum lessons taught in 12 minutes. Been practicing this technique for 30 minutes and have learned more than I have most of my drum career. Thanks man!

[@krzysztoff386]

Josh, Thank you! Perfect explanation. Especially the exercise from 4:33. Very helpful for my left (weaker) hand.

[@seanallen4484]

Josh, I've been a guitarist for decades, but recently set a goal to learn drums so I could record my song ideas without programming drums. I knew that somehow the double strokes were based on some kind of controlled bounce, but your video made it instantly clear how it works and how to practice it. Many thanks to you my friend!

[@dansbird]

Oh, this is awesome. Thank you for that basic mechanical explanation on how this is to be accomplished. Other videos are borderline humble-bragging by "displaying" how simple double strokes are to do, but yours actually shows how to train for doing proper double strokes. I appreciate you making this video.

[@LaVerdad65]

My chickety

[@relativ6192]

Oh my god, I've been playing drums for more than 10 years and it's only now that I've understood how to do this. Getting my first electronic drums next month. Damn, I'm excited to learn this. Thanks!

[@Spladoinkal]

Same man. Over 20 years of drumming and I NEVER new we were supposed to push/pull. I just got really good at pinching the stick

[@dadstermac]

I've been gigging for over 50 years. This is the first clear explanation of to make double strokes work. It's always been a weakness I've worked around. You nailed it. I'll be looking for your stuff elsewhere like Patron. Thanks.

[@BenjiGrut]

Ive been playing drums 11 years and had some teachers who never explained how to get those even doubles but you sir have explained this amazingly with out all the confusing BS 🙏

[@fspar]

Respects. I always played double strokes without the help of my fingers, even though i knew it was preferable, I couldn't do it. Great job, hands down the best video for this technique.

[@xstij]

This the one

[@ojay2001]

What an eyeopener! Thank you very much!!!! HIGHLY appreciated!

[@nickturnbull4105]

Excellent ,so clearly explained and and demonstrated . As so many others have already said ,this is by far one of the best videos that clearly shows the technique and mechanics of playing clean even double strokes . Thankyou so much Josh ,fantastic job and I admire your playing .😂😂

[@jaydiemusik]

It‘s incredible that this feels like the only Video that actually explains how to do a double strokes for beginners. I‘ve been playing for a couple years now but never learnt how to properly use your finger (hehe). This helps me a lot!

[@TonyMontana-yj6rx]

Open/close technique is a good exercise for finger drumming

[@TheDanimatorsChannel]

Best video on doubles I have seen, and I have watched a lot. Thank you! Also what snare do you use?

[@christophertiredofbs8514]

Wow, what a really really really good explanation, my friend graduated from Berkeley, he’s been trying to teach me this and I have been slacking. This video really seemed to hit home. It’s up to me now. Thank you so much! Great teacher

[@garye4678]

Hi Josh, thanks for the excellent video. I learnt doubles many years ago by accenting the second double and slowly speeding them up until the accent naturally fades away. I guess it would’ve been a Moeller technique using mainly wrist with a little bit of fingers. I just tried to do the 3 finger dropping exercise that you demonstrated and I was surprised that I was able to do it, probably because it reminds me of a push/pull or open/close technique which I have practiced before. I’ll be practicing the double 3 finger drop exercise a lot from now on. Thanks from Tasmania, Australia 🎼🥁🙂

[@guaripolo69]

When I do the 3 back fingers drop my wrist hurts really bad even though I'm not really moving my wrist as you said just my fingers.... What could I be doing wrong?

[@Strykjarn1]

BIG THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!!! So well explained 🎼🥁🎼🥁

[@briangriffin4378]

What I would give to have this technique and fluidity. Following a stroke my left side doesn't want to co-ordinate withy my right and I feel so clunky. Back to the practice pad.

[@mr.stacyhendrix]

I know what I'll be watching for the next 3 months. & to the 🖥 troll that disliked 👎 this gift we have been given... You are as hollow as 🕳 & a soulless shell is your 🖤 You are dead ☠inside.

[@gio4738]

so its the push pull technique, right?

[@BenjiGrut]

Yeah but don’t forget the Moeller motion movement as well as the fingers to get those louder and even doubles!

[@elrincondelzorro1035]

Bro what is that cymbal on the tom? It sounds awesome, I think of Ed Blackwell using something like that but it's a very specific sound. Thanks for the lessons!

[@aminaedmiston5818]

I'm struggling to release only the back three fingers. My index and thumb also seem to want to leave the stick, so I lose the fulcrum. Any tips?

[@grahamsalmons2027]

I completely understand the mechanics but one of the things I find hardest is identifying the unevenness, and then connecting that with the cause to fix it. I always assume that the second note will be the quieter, and work on making it louder to ‘even’ it up but there comes a point where I know I don’t sound the same as a professional but can’t quite figure out why…

[@jayeshasher]

I am trying to learn this methid of using fingers but havent seen a perfect technique shared by anyoned. Can anyone help. How to develop this technique of drumming.

[@garywhitaker9854]

Great video. Worked on this a while last night and this morning I am bouncing my coffee off the table when I set it down. Guess I gotta work on selectiveness;)

[@TalAlon]

A great video. Thank you. Also loved the hidden (unintentional? ) Southpark joke.

[@DJMJRyder]

First double stroke video to explain in a way that's easy to understand, excellent job!

[@moneymachine123]

you break balls man .... too much explanation for the obvious.....

[@Arlo360-Official]

This could be a great video except for the annoying music bed running underneath the narration. Why is that even needed? SMH.

[@pieropiergentili]

Finally! Explained correctly thank you!

[@abbasidanny]

Thanks for this video man, will be recommending it to my students

[@ianfarrell6604]

What's the thing on your kit that sounds like a "water droplet" (the best way I could describe it)

[@Sasha-tm8qy]

1:52 that's tooo real lol, I used to play like this until a friend told me that it was shit (thanks to him for being honest 😂) so now I'm training to really control it haha

[@andrew007s]

I know the double stroke. But I don't understand how to play the groove at 11:13. Can you please make a video on that.

[@FilipPandrc]

so 1st stroke is wrist motion, 2nd is fingers motion...moeller basically

[@Be_Good_Do_Good]

Thank you a lot. You’re very kind to share such great knowledge.

[@briansmith1780]

I've just come across this man showing how to do double stoke notes, very interesting

[@yannmondon4095]

excellent first time at last someone really shows how it works. Thaaaaaaaaank you !!!!👋

[@phillipclarke8871]

Thanks very much, great explanation

[@seanmcrey]

please teach us to play that first beat a the beginning of the vid?!!!!!!!

[@MadMatty72]

Never seen it explained like this before - love it, I already know it'll help me 😊

[@DMCrews1976]

Thanks, great video!

[@lifesoldier]

1:23 i love your editing style. amazing info man, thank you so much

[@davidzamora9973]

OMG! Thank you! This is the best exercise I've found in the last few weeks of searching for a way to get these doubles going and getting no where. Thank you. I'll consider this day one and update with my progress. Btw I'm a beginner with just a practice pad at this point. No drums set up yet.

[@davidzamora9973]

Ok. After four days of practicing the stick drop exercise I finally got the double stroke going in both hands and was able to play my first decent paradiddle. Before this I had no idea how to get an even and evenly timed double stroke and my left hand just felt completely useless. Thank you so much!

[@MikeOrkid]

Drop and scoop mom's spaghetti now my palms are sweaty 😑

[@PNW_Sportbike_Life]

So essentially it's a push-pull or a Moeller stroke. This is something I've been working on lately, as a drummer who's played off and on for years, I wish someone would have taught me how important technique actually is! Great, fun explanation; thank you!

[@krusher74]

This is open/close which is differant. You can do a hybrid of the two

[@AngelAsylum78]

It’s not so much push pull but something called the gladstone technique.

[@andrewfowler9269]

Was that your Tom Green impersion at the end LOL.

[@nguyensontung9037]

Easy understanding. Thanks a lot !

[@babarshakeel7222]

Love from Pakistan 🇵🇰♥

[@jkman10]

11:25 Is there a rudiment he's playing here?

[@jamesritz7254]

Great instruction. Thank you

[@ukaszwalczak5341]

What do you have on middle tom, is this a little gong ?

[@andrewworrall4302]

best demonstration and explanation ever

[@drozdekPty]

The best video describing the grip. Straight to the point.

[@jeremyevans1532]

Dude I have for months been working on my double strokes , it all ways been there but weak untill i stumbled a cross your technique with just droping the stick a bringing back up, i now !! get full use of my little finger this way, i am amazied of how little effort have to put in and get more out thanks dude.

[@tsuyukurage3772]

This help explain a lot! Time to practice!

[@Nesaualcoyotl]

Thanks this was really helpful!

[@C4STUDIO]

Thank you so much bro 🎼🎻🎹🎺🎸🎷🎶🎵

[@owg952]

People overcomplicate this shit

[@clintmilner2365]

Damn, this was a good instruction

[@Sadoskya]

good teacher!

[@TowersPreston]

OH MY GOD IT FINALLY MAKES SENSE

[@emilde12]

This is a great exercise. I wished you included more about how the forearm and upper arm comes into play when you play the doubles at top speed. At some point it is no longer just the fingers and wrist producing those doubles. I can see the movement move all the way up to your shoulders as you get faster next faster.

[@yeahright2449]

Great video, thank you

[@toumperezh]

Thanks man, that helps!

[@coltranechanges2938]

JD Beck ?

[@davidkral7317]

Great info. Thanks.

[@agboolajoshua621]

Still finding it hard with my left 😩

[@jamcorjeff1]

Josh, or any of our brothers out there, what is on the Tom that sounds like a talking drum? Or a tiny cow? Lol

[@JoshMerhar]

That's a 9" Wuhan opera gong! If you hit it at just the right spot, it makes that little pitch scoop.

[@rong8280]

Physiologically speaking, your statement (9:30) is not accurate. Your pinky fingers are not your weakest fingers by any means. In fact, the opposite is true. I speak as an industrial mechanic who has tried to break bolts (and nuts) loose with different configurations of fingers in place on a wrench to settle that very question. I now use my pinkies to really send power to the tip of my sticks as well as to keep my doubles even. My grandfather was a medic during the Second World War (and subsequently became a practicing surgeon) who confirmed my findings and added how much more difficult it was for injured soldiers to have to relearn how to walk without a pinky toe than it would be for injuries involving any of their other toes or combinations thereof. Counterintuitive, I know. I just didn't want to see pinky digits getting sold short (no pun).

[@meganday9829]

Oooooooooooohhhhhhhh

[@joetroutt7425]

I can play doubles really evenly and and soft and loud without my back fingers on the sticks but definitely feels like I don't have complete control when I comes to going from singles to doubles and accents. You explain it very well on what's necessary to achieve control so I will practice you instructions to get it right.