How to Install a VN Commodore LS Conversion Kit

[@AerialEyesProduction]

I just so happen to have bought this kit to put in my VN commodore and its been sitting on the shelf in the shed for a year. Safe to say I'm pretty pumped for this upload. Thanks lads!!

[@beardbuilds5140]

Gents what can I say ! I used all your stuff to do the LS /4L65 swap into my VG Ute …. The service I got from you guys was second to none and I wanna say thanks for all the help in getting the loom done asap and the standard of it ; and all your parts were FKN amazing ! The ugly parts were definitely the pipes getting them fitted was a nightmare lol but once you got it all in the right spot they fitted just right ! You don’t offer a Ute exhaust but again you guys let me out the back in the workshop so I could see your sedan with the exhaust on it and what I’d need to modify the tailpipe section to suit a Ute. The offer still stands if you wanna borrow my Ute or the tail pipe section off it to make a tail pipe that will suit a Ute or a wagon for your exhaust kits . About the only constructive criticism I can say is that the y piece hangs down a touch low with a lowered car . Stock ride height is gunna be fine but show me one stock height 2nd gen commodore lol ! Honestly you guys rock and again thanks for the stuff you do for our automotive industry in Australia!!! I’m not gunna put my details in here but I’m from Kerang , so you remember who I was if you wanna do the exhaust ! Cheers legends

[@Gavs_rc_hobbies]

Wow, that's a mint looking VN Commodore.

[@apvgroup5i]

Was

[@dalepointon6360]

Really enjoyed this video, taking us through the steps, showing us a few things to look out for and avoid etc. Hope you can do more vids like this, thank you!

[@jarnosaarinen4583]

Good the Stock V6 Wiring & Computer all worked on the LS!

[@beardbuilds5140]

@@jarnosaarinen4583 modified LS engine loom and factory LS computer bud , but all the car wiring loom

[@stewartlemon5702]

Do you need to replace the engine computer???

[@druebe1]

i was thinking the same? like did they skip that set or somthing

[@stevenjay-o2w]

Awesome video guys just need to make a step by step video for the plug in wiring loom that would be perfect

[@Paul-qq7mh]

Awesome video well done.

[@sidinuga3352]

What a beast 🔥🔥🔥

[@gazza116]

need the aircon hooked up

[@stevemajor9702]

does the dash all work .were is the computer situated.what exhaust did u use.when i fitted a ls into my vs caprice it wasnt that simple .u missed a lot of the hard bits like wiring.had to weld 3 bolt flange to fit the exhaust. it wasnt hard to fit but not as easy as u have shown

[@beardbuilds5140]

The wiring is the easiest part of the whole deal ! Supply a engine loom to the lads at the rod shop and they modify it and send it back and literally plug it all back in to the engine and the 3 plugs near the fuse box and then the one plug in behind the dash . I got lazy and mounted the computer in the glove box as I don’t use it for anything else but I have a mate who mounted his on the firewall behind the glove box if that’s an option too , as for the exhaust this is the easiest part of the swap with their kit !!!!

[@stevemajor9702]

@beardbuilds5140 when I rang and asked about what exhaust the recommended. I was told I had find one my self .

[@beardbuilds5140]

@ don’t know what to tell ya mate ! Maybe they didn’t do the exhaust when you did your LS Swap … can’t answer that one mate ! But seriously their exhaust kit is bloody good…. I get it doesn’t help you now, the exhaust they do is for a sedan only so I don’t know what difference there is between sedan and statesman variants.

[@sickleman2568]

that is beautiful guys!

[@andrewmurray6772]

That engine bay was made for an LS, I didn't think the headers would fit, but, hey !! Perfect fit :) Ah, I get it that it's not going to be a huge horsepower car, but, the factory diff ?? Good enough ??

[@julianalderson3938]

Motors pretty good.

[@chefcamsey1375]

Great work 👍👍

[@gromitNOR83]

Sweet conversion kit. Sad state of affairs that all the european Vauxhall/Opel Omegas of that generation are rusted out. Haven't seen one in ages.

[@kowilton94]

How did you go about the wiring????

[@2burning2turning]

Do you guys not like working on benches?

[@RebeccaGriffin-b8n]

They wished that they had when they are older. Good luck in getting compo from this mob !!!!!!

[@bluejayfabrications2216]

Yeah that bugged me as well

[@geoffberry1874]

As far as ive been told by roadworthy rego guys, to pass a vn that was originally a v6 to a 5 litre the v8 cross member needs to be used along with other parts, is this an engineer able thing to do?

[@kowilton94]

Make sure the car is registered in your name ,then never have to get another roadworthy,, unless the stupid highway patrol gets ya lol then ya screwed

[@darreneccles8813]

@@kowilton94depends what state you are in

[@davidlong4262]

How does the V6 computer run the V8 Ls1??????

[@bencampbell498]

It doesn't

[@jimboslice2882]

Bluetooth bro

[@bluejayfabrications2216]

You have to re graph the distributor Then it will work fine

[@davidlong4262]

@@bluejayfabrications2216 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@benni727]

simples stupid haha

[@NoDiarrhea007]

Can you do a video on a LH torana LS swap 😊😜

[@XR64LT]

Last time I wanted to build an xf with a Barra, now I want to build a vn with an Ls 😂

[@gardenwaster]

Just bolt it in and away you go, easy

[@Brettj77]

Who else hole saws a hole in the back plate of the sump so you can get to the torque converter bolts easily? Would have been the first thing i did after fitting the flexplate.

[@lancecooper4646]

I will now taa...that's so obvious now you mention it🤔👍

[@beardbuilds5140]

@@Brettj77 yuuuuppppp lol or good luck ever getting the flex plate bolts out with it in the car and the pipes on it

[@julianalderson3938]

Its a good barra wants bit more. Thanx

[@jameshohmann535]

On ya boys. What’s the regulator set at . ?

[@bustedrusted7385]

More detail on how you get the headers in would have been useful, man it is a pain lol, doing one atm

[@bencampbell498]

Pretty narrow hey

[@scottieb8313]

Yeah Man !!!!!!!!! The Exhaust System Was Totally Missed !!!!!!!!!!! , Unless it's JUST A bolt on Application For the LS1 in the Vn / Vp Chassis ... But YET, it would be Nice to Know in The VIDEO description / Even if its NOT a Rod Shop Product , So People Can take stock of what they Have built in The "VIDEO" / A Run Down , .. and Make there OWN decisions If someone wants TO DO THE SAME thing !!!!!!! / AS its ALL "THE" about Info !!! ............

[@beardbuilds5140]

I will say this a lot of cursing and swearing and threats of burning it to the ground lol No but when you calm down from that , the best way to put the pipes in I found was with the engine half way out one side at a time. The drivers side was easier to manipulate being a split pipe , don’t worry about the split connector till the motor is back on the mounts . Mine was with a 5L K frame and mounts so I don’t know if there is a height difference between the v6 to v8 mounts that will make a difference in fitting the pipes !

[@beardbuilds5140]

The rest of the exhaust is a complete bolt up kit $850 for the car back …. For the money you can’t go wrong !!!!

[@scottieb8313]

@@beardbuilds5140 Mate It would OF been Nice In The description OF THE VIDEO though , AS un Be KNOWN 75% of Car Guys Unless in the "Trade" IS where TO "BUY" stuff , As Aussie / NZ People Just KNOW OF Repco And Super cheap Auto , YA know .. .. AS silly AS it may seem

[@raynardhakopa2084]

Did you use the same steering rack and knuckle from the v6 ?

[@96libertytt]

I have a VN V6. Almost identical to the one you have there. I believe the one in the video is a series 2 whereas mine is a series 1. Are there places you can take a car and have all the conversion work done....including the shop sourcing the LS?

[@druebe1]

i would also like to know this too

[@nunyabizzness6468]

If your anywhere near South Aus or be up for transporting the car id be happy to do it for you. Not the first ive done and certainly wont be the last

[@julianalderson3938]

The trans got rebuilt not cheap. Runs nice just. Really slow to go. An motor wants it just yer. Thanks

[@nunyabizzness6468]

Whatcha talkin bout whillis?

[@joshminter795]

Neat install. What did you do for an ecu?

[@dinosshed]

Stromberg down draught

[@beardbuilds5140]

Factory LS computer , modified engine loom that’s plug and play into the 2nd gen body loom , all the gauges then work like factory only part of the body loom you have to modify is the speedo wire , From memory it’s purple with a white trace . So you cut or splice the purple with the white trace wire from the factory speed sensor wiring that is located on the trans tunnel literally that is it

[@bluejayfabrications2216]

​@@dinosshedcorrect but you'd have to use the latter model electric distributor

[@dinosshed]

​@@bluejayfabrications2216nah, glow plugs and ntrio/methanol mix. 😂

[@macdouglas1087]

Ls motors makes everything better

[@victor22366]

Love how it looks like you just unplug the loom from the fire wall 😂

[@lewysgarage7739]

Now Skid it !!

[@Towball22]

Good sleeper

[@abshassan]

Leave the rest of the car as stock as possible, it will be an awesome sleeper.

[@julianalderson3938]

Yer matters to me. What looks like. Yer

[@youtubevoyeur4104]

How well does the V6 diff hold up to the LS1?!

[@nunyabizzness6468]

About the same as my grannies box when she takes it along to schoolies to cop a floggin each year...might get one into it but then she's all p's and q's, farts and moo's....leaks glitter everywhere and just general shit it shouldnt do

[@julianalderson3938]

Not fan off that modle. But have heaps. Thanks

[@tidlywinks]

I miss my VN and the smell of all that leaky green coolant.

[@ianvader4697]

I miss ea's with their squeaky power steering!

[@einfelder8262]

Wasn't a problem in this car - it just had water.......

[@jrobpat0154]

Fuel pump?

[@kowilton94]

Use the stock v6 no problems, just upgrade the fuel pressure regulator

[@julianalderson3938]

Thanxs

[@julianalderson3938]

Mines falcon wagon lpg. Btr. If can help thanks

[@jimmyjimmy19702010]

Sleeper.👌

[@RandomGus420]

Random question. I've got a rusty af VL berlina full original just been sittin for 10 yrs. What r they moving for these days I'm sick of watching it rust away to be honest.

[@nunyabizzness6468]

probs $160 bucks per tonne or what ever scrap value is today

[@julianalderson3938]

Motors great for 150. I know slow but the btr so much slower.

[@jeolman1]

I'm not really up to speed on Aussie cars, But Is there something special about this model car, to warrant an LS upgrade.. Car kinda looks like every low budget 90's sedan made in the US. Ford Taurus, Chevy Lumina, etc Just curious.

[@tturi2]

It's a Holden to start, it is just a base model but all of the special versions are worth a fortune and modifying them would tank their value, finding a rusty one isn't worth the work unless it sentimental or something, also it's spicing up an old car

[@craigritchie1933]

You're right , The VN's were just a cheap car. However, there pretty light for their size compared to any of the factory LS powered cars., and they start at around less than 2900lb., The later VT LS1 cars weigh over 3400lbs and the VEs weigh over 3740lb so a LS powered cars will perform well . The VN's have a bit of a colt following these days, and they still have a live axle , the 5.0 litre V8 cars bring big money. Any factory V8 powered Holden is worth quite a lot of money these days

[@jarrynsmith]

These did come with v8s and racing homoglations, which are super cool and fast so seeing the old stock base model all beefed up is awesome to us

[@lancecooper4646]

Yep it wasn't until the late 90's when the AU falcon was released on an unsuspecting public that AUssie cars hit their peak & everything after that was pretty much a backward step🤔😛

[@nunyabizzness6468]

@@lancecooper4646 hahhahahahhhaahhahhhhhaqhahahahhaa i laughed so hard just then my stomach done some weird shit and i reckon i sucked air in via my outage hole 😂

[@tonytrumble]

I know Australia is very strict on their vehicle enforcement codes. Is this conversion good for the street or is it just a burnout car now?

[@tturi2]

@@tonytrumble should be fine, the LS has better emissions than the old v6

[@driftrich]

its not strict on bolt in stuff really, tonnes of cars have engine swaps here

[@grumpyoldman-21]

from memory crs supply a engineering cert to hand to your state approved engineer to sign off on

[@Liberty_Prime_Is_Online]

Australia is letting in any and all Chinese EVs now so i'd say that's no longer the case 😒

[@grumpyoldman-21]

@ different rules for new and old cars these days

[@DylanMarshall-z2v]

I like your videos but I have to say the background music is way to loud and do you guys need to put rod shop on pretty much every part that's a bit much

[@headofturtle4305]

You drop kick

[@jodybaldwin4864]

It's a RodShop built car Sparky

[@boozled86]

ROFLCOPTER 😂

[@nunyabizzness6468]

Are you familiar with a thing called advertising? Helps companies make $mulllahh$ bro

[@theaussienurseflipper.8113]

I agree I don't know why they have to play music so loud in the background. Do they think they're cool or something. I bet most people who do in the conversion older people as they got the cash and they that want to listen to crap music blaring away louder than the talking

[@damor4878]

Why not an LS3?

[@grumpyoldman-21]

3k vs 14k would be my guess

[@chriscarey3625]

@@damor4878 remember it's just a glorified ad to sell their parts that's why they never mention anything about the electrical side of the conversion

[@neilrobertson1345]

@@grumpyoldman-21 Correct

[@tightlines106]

The good old VN Australia’s top no.1 stolen car

[@kowilton94]

Nope not no more , it is now the VF

[@mattthompson9261]

Are yous gonna do a stand alone harness for the 3.8 eco tec engine

[@DOCTRJ]

Shoulda been a T56

[@glennp9904]

It would be nice if you explained why you need an adapter plate and LH starter etc. Ie a bit more detail. Nothing about the computer? Stock? Modified?? Wiring modified? Plus, why doesn't the adapter plate cover the bell housing hole left when RH starter is not used?

[@nickg4135]

I assume steering components or frame are in the way but only a guess

[@tturi2]

steering shaft

[@beardbuilds5140]

@@glennp9904 modified LS engine loom , factory LS computer with the VATS removed then it all plugs into the second gen body wiring , with two wires needed to be wired in if 4l60 or 1 if you go T56 or non lock up converter type deal th350/400/glide The two wires are an input for the lock up in the box so it knows when to unlock the converter so it doesn’t just stall the car ever time you go to slow down and then the speedo wire so you can make the factory speedo work The adapter plate doesn’t cover the right hand side where the stater was so that without pipes on it you can do up the converter to flywheel bolts , best idea or solution is to run a hole saw through the rear of the sump to access the converter bolts way easier then they can be done with pipes on and in the car . You need the left hand starter to clear the steering shaft . What you have to remember is that 3rd gen engine bays bs 2nd gen engine bays is there is nearly 8 inches more room in total so roughly 4 inches per side to fit an LS and all the other stuff in the bay and keep a right hand starter on it.

[@glennp9904]

@@beardbuilds5140 Thanks for the reply. It's much appreciated even though I don't plan to do this myself. The title of the Video was "How to....." and missing these basic things is a bit of an oversight on your part. My comment is not meant to be criticism.

[@pentergraph]

Nothing from The Rod Shop, bolts in this easy, or works this well.. there is alot missing from here, wiring, exhaust fitting etc. The kits are basis to get you going. The rest is on you. Personally found it easier to put an LS in a volvo with the kit from the US. Its absolutely complete from start to finish and detailed instructions including the wiring loom with 4 wire install.

[@beardbuilds5140]

@@pentergraph just a quick one ….. have you used everything that the rod shop offers to mount up a LS into a second gen commodore ? Or are you just happy to run your mouth about something you haven’t actually done ? They don’t show it in the video but the exhaust system is completely their own and fits so easily, wiring loom once modified by the lads at the rod shop fitted in and plugged into all the factory connectors so that you can retain all the factory gauges . They will sell you literally everything you need to do this conversion I know , as I have just finished doing it myself! Lefthand starter kit Full exhaust Engine mount kit Modified wiring loom. Modified standard LS based ECU with VATS removed All bolt up and all provided by the rod shop Soooooooooooooooooooooo I don’t know what smack you are talking about here . Do they do a full LS swap kit into a Volvo ? No ! Why ? Because there is ZERO market in it Everything I got from them bolted up and fitted well and easy to do

[@nunyabizzness6468]

wheres the fun in everything just fitting?....best part of a build is having ya mates around downing a few cold ones and trying to nut out solutions or under engineer things to make em fit or work. If you bolt a car together in my honest op you havent built a car, building a rig requires you to make your own "one off's" bits and pieces-customise it yourself then its a one off your build

[@wasserkuhl638]

Aww yeah, I'm Gunna do that when mum comes home. My parents are related. All good. My eyes aren't straight. . Yeah nah.

[@julianalderson3938]

Sorry guys any ideas?

[@julianalderson3938]

I like the vid. Bro i just want better gearbox in my bf. Yer sorry ford. Thanks

[@mick00023]

Clearly avoided the wiring side of things and ecu.

[@justincanny1571]

lol i think rather my turbo V6 buick :P

[@swaaga_4526]

Boys. Your awesome. But so many maybe, if, or, etc.. I get. Too much doubt for a buyer to be conferment to purchase.

[@kingpinjunky0219]

That buick 3.8 is probably more reliable than the ls

[@einfelder8262]

What's twice as bad as a VN Dunnydor? Two VN Dunnydors.

[@chriscarey3625]

Vehicle was never manufactured with that copasity engine so it will need engineering. Whats most disappointing about your conversion products promotional video is no information on how the engine management system was integrated into the rest of the cars electronic, not even a mention of anticipated cost for the customer. Other wise not a bad video, but is there any wonder your subjected to so much criticism when you think this type of behaviour is professional.

[@beardbuilds5140]

@@chriscarey3625 capacity *is that what you mean there mate ? Just so you are fully aware the wiring required is a engine loom from the LS and it gets modified to suit the swap requirements then run a factory LS computer in this case it plugs directly into the body harness near the fuse panel and into the connector under the dash. You then wire up two other wires ( one of you are not running an electronic gear box or a manual ) roughly cost of $2k for the loom and the modified computer ….

[@chriscarey3625]

@beardbuilds5140 yes mate a 350 where a 308 was. I've done Simla conversions and understand what's entailed, as I said I thought it was a good video but it missed the most expensive part of the process, I wasn't sure whether CRS sold a loom modified or manufactured to integrate into the VN and if they did I must have missed that bit. All in all there was no mention of the electrical side of it and I thought it to be quite misleading to the unexpected who might just think it's as simple as plugging it in. Anyway CRS make some good products and I have personally bought them but I hope they take my comments seriously, cheers PS been fixing cars for 45 years but I can't spell, lucky for speech-to-text lol I think you meant if not of

[@beardbuilds5140]

@@chriscarey3625 so you have LS swapped a vn commodore with all of the equipment they sell ? I’m telling you it’s super FKN easy , they have other videos on the full exhaust system , they have other videos on the wiring loom and what’s required to be modified ….. if they put everything in one video everyone would whinge that it’s 3 1/2 hours long ffs It’s not misleading at all !!! The LS loom doesn’t plug into the VN body loom without modification and if you think that it does then maybe just maybe you’re aren’t at the level of doing an engine conversion ….. it doesn’t take much brain power to work that out !!!

[@jakeyb6245]

First

[@michaelbyrnes7944]

4L60 is crap 💩 I’d rather see you putting a small block Windsor AU v8 into a 1975 TD ford cortina with a chassis kit and or c4 or mustang five speed transmission Conversion and shortened xh fg diff and brake upgrade.. LS crumble doors are boring

[@einfelder8262]

Waste of a good LS.

[@julianalderson3938]

Its lpg haha. So prob shit to all. But its so slow to work.

[@anthonywhelan8373]

If you think lpg don’t make any power you’re on the slow side there I’m currently making around 580fwhp 480rwhp with an rb30 in a vl And the setup I have on it previously made 740rwhp in another vl and went 9.4 in the 1/4 mile yes its not as quick as the times being put down now by some people but far from slow It’ll smoke tyres at 100kph in top gear no problem

[@julianalderson3938]

@anthonywhelan8373 yer bro sounds good. Just mechanics ive been to say it aint worth it. More not interested. Cheers

[@julianalderson3938]

Was slow more had few an not thinkin sorry man.

[@kowilton94]

@@anthonywhelan8373 on LPG?

[@anthonywhelan8373]

@ yep

[@gumtree3050]

Good video, great work but unfortunately ruined by a shit-ton of music and could only stand watching about 10 mins of it unmuted. Have you got a version without music? Better yet...leave the tunes out for the future ones?

[@pablowvangreenlow7430]

Castlemaine hack shop .

[@cozza2657]

Boring

[@apvgroup5i]

LS swap nah I'll pass. I'll keep my 1989 Iron Lion 🦁

[@scottieb8313]

Hey Guys Silly Thing IF your a CAR nut like me at TIME'S its SO nice to have stuff Looking FACTORY , .. AND you INTAKE piping does Not !!!!!!!!! ( HAHA its terrible sorry Guys) , AS I Guess Because Your Hose Clamps are Not zinc Coated / Or a Stock Clamp / even A HOLDEN stock part option like a VZ OPTION , ... But yet Looks Terrible WITH with the "RACEWORKS" bend .. I was Just looking at this Video from another youtuber , and it LOOKS like a 3.6 LITTER V6 Holden Engine (from a VZ commodore), HAS the BEST looking INTAKE hands down for your Project ! , If you have a LOOK at the Current time , kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5m7l4p9rNiVjs0 , ... They would be CHEAP as Hell FROM a Local wrecker's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! , ... Making that Engine Bay JUST LOOK Stock (HOW it should Be )/ LOOKING JUST RIGHT !!!! , ... Even IF you have a Bit of alloy Piping For something AT LEAST for God sake Paint it with some MATT Back Or "Wrinkle" Matt Black , / You Can Grab From Repco OR SuperCheap Auto , JUST so it LOOK's Factory !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ...... , AS silly as it May Seem !!!!!!! , ... All the best Guys !

[@nunyabizzness6468]

why Are YOU finding IT necessary to YELL inconsistently THROUGHOUT your comments? BRO my EARS are hurting....INSIDE VOICE