How To Install C Channels / Woodworking Tips

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Bent's Woodworking

Bent's Woodworking

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@joegallagher1842
@joegallagher1842 Жыл бұрын
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that you didn’t need to go 1 3/16 deep. The C is 1” and that includes the depth of the ‘top’ of the C. Since the top of the C will be flush with the top of the wood, your two grooves need only be 1” deep. Yes?
@digidandan
@digidandan 8 ай бұрын
yes, he made a mistake and went too deep.
@CanadianWoodworks
@CanadianWoodworks 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing our C-channel. I initially had the manufactured for just my own furniture company but now we are shipping them all over North America! Great video, smash that thumbs up everyone! (-:
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for getting one too me for the video!! 👍
@kyledobson1607
@kyledobson1607 4 жыл бұрын
Is your $40 price for each c-channel?
@3x3CustomTamar
@3x3CustomTamar 5 жыл бұрын
That was a great demonstration. I have been wanting to add c channel to some of my tables but I didn’t love the idea of drilling out the holes myself. Glad to know I can purchase those!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tamar! I prefer the pre drilled channel. I think if you have the tools to do the metal work on your own then it could be pretty simple.
@3x3CustomTamar
@3x3CustomTamar 5 жыл бұрын
Bent's Woodworking havnt really done much metal work so don’t have a ton of experience with it. Hope to add that to my repertoire one day though!
@bs9714
@bs9714 3 жыл бұрын
Blacktail studio also has an excellent video about installing c channel
@TeamProsperity
@TeamProsperity 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason, I hadn’t heard of these stiffeners before and am getting ready to build a table and I’ll employ this method. This video really helps. Thanks a bunch 👍
@fearlchristman4280
@fearlchristman4280 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome... Thank you..... You made it so easy, I think I can do it.....
@WhiteLabWorkshop
@WhiteLabWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
This was a great explanation. I had never considered using C channel before, but now will have it in the back of my mind as an alternative to breadboard ends! Thank you for the tip!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!
@boboconnor1403
@boboconnor1403 5 жыл бұрын
I've used steel bar for strength on some wood countertop overhangs. I think I might give channel and this technique a shot next time, we'll see. Can't always afford to try new things.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely try it sometime
@granthmeek
@granthmeek Жыл бұрын
QUESTION: I'm going to build a 9'+ table top. How many channels would you recommend? Love this video!!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t necessarily “recommend “ having to use them. I’m not someone that believes they are a necessity in most cases but I also don’t think they hurt a project. However, for a 9’ table I would use 3-4 if I used them probably
@OliveTree206
@OliveTree206 11 ай бұрын
What an educational video thank you for sharing! What if there are epoxy areas would you drill holes for the threads there too?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 11 ай бұрын
I would
@redcloud9700
@redcloud9700 5 жыл бұрын
I have heard of the term and even the reason for use but seeing it implemented in this video makes it perfectly clear now. Very clear explanation. Thanks for that:)
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful 👍
@ramaroodle
@ramaroodle 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's a bit of a pain to drill the holes but I got four 42" pieces for $50 from the metal distributor vs. $50 each pre-fabed. That's 1/5 of the cost.
@ericfichtner4343
@ericfichtner4343 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Jason. I appreciate the detail.
@markpalmer3071
@markpalmer3071 5 жыл бұрын
Well I never knew they existed. I like you videos, they are very detailed thanks for taking the time.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@charlesthomas9294
@charlesthomas9294 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work. I've got several slab projects in flight and I have some concern about keeping them flat. This was a great overview.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful
@brianboyet8677
@brianboyet8677 8 ай бұрын
That's a great demo on your part Jason. I have a question about hardware size and slot dimension. Are you using 1/4" fasteners in a 1/4" or 3/8" wide slot? Or, what are you using? Thanks! Brian
@Thom4123
@Thom4123 5 жыл бұрын
Jason Awesome tutorial really like how in your videos it’s like I’m in a one on one class. Take Care
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am glad that you are enjoying the videos
@thedrizz1913
@thedrizz1913 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial! Just glued up a 6/4 oak top that was made up of 4, 8" boards and was feeling like that might be wide enough to use a c-channel.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it 👍
@mrcannamike5636
@mrcannamike5636 5 жыл бұрын
But I can’t do this because I don’t have Festool products lol. Great video and keep up the good work!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Lol 🤦🏼‍♂️
@SaltCityWorkshop
@SaltCityWorkshop 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! I’ve been wanting to use C Channels on my most recent project.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Good timing then.
@KnottyDogWoodshop
@KnottyDogWoodshop 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing your process! Very helpful
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
No problem buddy
@TeamProsperity
@TeamProsperity 4 жыл бұрын
I had made a expandable Ash trestle table 40 x 72 x 1 1/2 expandable to 102. I installed the extenders everything looks and operates good. The only thing is when I position the two 15” leafs I can see The table top isn’t perfectly flat and has a 1/32” rise in the center. I place a 38” edge wise and clamp the ends brings it home so I’m going to need to install 4 C channels two on each half 2” from the ends. Legacy Lumber C channels are great but at $45 each? I don’t think so. I ordered from Home Depot at $10 but as you said, will have to machine the holes. I hope this will bring the top in check.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
I think it could help. The c channels from Legacy Lumber are much more stout than the HD ones as they are made specifically for this application.
@mattarenz1195
@mattarenz1195 5 жыл бұрын
Very clear! Thank you, Jason!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome!
@anthonymuzzillo230
@anthonymuzzillo230 4 жыл бұрын
Sweet video, although no one ever explains what size bolts and threaded inserts are needed. I’m assuming it’s all metric. The link in the description is cool but once you’re at the site it’s pretty overwhelming with the different style and sizing
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
Well that depends on many factors
@anthonymuzzillo230
@anthonymuzzillo230 4 жыл бұрын
Totally understandable. Can you tell me what style and size you personally used in this video?
@anncarille6071
@anncarille6071 Жыл бұрын
When you finish the table, do you apply the finish under the C channel? Thanks!
@stevenmcintyre2
@stevenmcintyre2 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video! What size drill bit do you find works best for the Rampa inserts? Is it the same for hard and soft woods? Thanks!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the size insert
@k.mustafa5455
@k.mustafa5455 Жыл бұрын
If the center of the table is actually a seam where two slabs were jointed, that "make the middle bolt tight" idea doesn't still hold right? Should I instead tighten the bolts in the center of each of the two jointed slabs? Thanks!
@attantoniasturntutorials3451
@attantoniasturntutorials3451 11 ай бұрын
Hey, Jason, thanks for a great video. One question: If the material of the C channel is - say 3mm steel - do you use a 3mm spiral bit?
@roberthiday3342
@roberthiday3342 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason. Excellent video, very informative. I have purchased a 10' live edge slab of Guanacaste for a dining room table, it is between 3 and 3 1/2 in thick and varies from 3.5 to 5 feet wide. I had not considered using any type of stiffener, due to the thickness, but have not done a table like this before. do you feel that it is needed for this type of project? the table will be indoors in a controlled environment.
@TeamProsperity
@TeamProsperity 4 жыл бұрын
Went to Legacy Lumber to check these C channels out and man are they expensive! My table will be 40” so I think I would need 35” at $45 each and I’ll need 8 $$$$$$$$$$$$ WOW! The table will be 72” with two 15” leafs expanding to 102”
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if you would need 8
@TeamProsperity
@TeamProsperity 4 жыл бұрын
Bent's Woodworking well we bought a new high table last year and I checked it and it had one on each end 3” in and one on the inside of each section plus 4 on the butterfly leaf so why you think it may not need them? The one I’m getting ready to build will be out of 8/4 Ash and the top will be 1 1/2” thick what else would I use? Not using bread board ends
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Ford I have built a lot of tables and never used them or breadboard ends. Unfortunately I am not the person to answer how many you would need. I personally think that 8 would be excessive and unnecessary especially for a table top that is that thick.
@brandonthebuildertx
@brandonthebuildertx 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome work as always!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@mbrubini4506
@mbrubini4506 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. I am building an assembly table which will stay in an unheated garage. Would you suggest i use a bigger router bit to allow some shrinkage during winter?
@stallionranchwoodworks
@stallionranchwoodworks 5 жыл бұрын
Great job! Keep up the good work.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@shilohwoodcrafts2955
@shilohwoodcrafts2955 2 жыл бұрын
I'm currently making a 19' x 3 1/2' countertop, it will be built in 2, 9 1/2' sections, I have a question... since the countertop will be laying flat, I will obviously need to route the c-channel deep enough so that the screw heads of the channel will be flush, and should I route deeper than that so that the screw heads have room to move? The wood I'm using is 8/4 Red Oak, I have never installed C-Channel before, so I just want to make sure I do this right, any advice would be much appreciated.
@gsawoodworking969
@gsawoodworking969 5 жыл бұрын
That’s a clean detail
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@nickgrimstad
@nickgrimstad Жыл бұрын
I have a walnut slab table that’s 98” long that has a slight bow in the middle between the legs. Legs are 58” apart. Would C channel be effective to run length wise? all applications I see of c channel are applied in the width axis.
@craigmonteforte1478
@craigmonteforte1478 5 жыл бұрын
hey thanks for the video and the good comments i did work as a Woodworkerfor 20 years and i never used C channel myself keeping in mind we always built whatever the Architects and Engineers specked out on the Blueprints and there were other solutions and ways to prevent warping and twisting it’s a interesting concept and i just may incorporate it into my next dining table build for myself BTW i will not be using Festool tools as my router by choice that i have owned for nearly 25 years is a PorterCable D handled one as well as a older 1/4” older Craftsman one i use kind of like a trim router because of its light weight and strange handles with a built in trigger on and off switch it was a router i bought on sale from Sears pretty close to 30 years ago for under 20 dollars plus a blow molded plastic case that can store a few bits and the wrench i had it for years in storage before i started using it as i used to use a offset Porter Cable router That the company i worked for loaned me whenever i needed a palm or trim router i liked that setup for its compact one handed size but yet with its strange offset base it had a pretty stable platform to ride on mainly i used that for trimming Veneer and HPDL on my personal projects the owners of the company i worked for were always very generous about loaning employees tools or shop space on off hours at one point i actually restored a 30 foot wooden ChrisCraft Cabin Cruiser in a old out building located on our shops property and many times i used shop equipment if i needed it another nice thing about that was i had access to a forklift for lifting motors in and out of the hull
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it interesting
@randalqueen5653
@randalqueen5653 4 жыл бұрын
While I will agree the C channel that you got for this video that you ordered from Legacy Lumber should work well, because they have enough rigidity to provide the strength to keep a table flat. That said, I have ordered both cold roll and hot steel roll C channels that fails a simple test. And this is what I would like to point out to your viewers. Both the cold roll C channel from HomeDepot and the hot steel C channel from Northern fail if you place 2 steel rules, say from your combinations squares, that are only 1/16 thick, and place them towards the ends of the C channel so that the C channel is sitting atop these rulers. Now press down on the middle of the C channel and one will find it is fairly easy, (a smidge harder with the steel roll), to press down and watch the C channel bend or warp down and touch, in my case, the cast iron table saw top where I did this experiment. Sure, they spring back but the test shows they fail to be able to truly hold a table flat. The problem is, when using the C channel, one is only going to ensure that the center is actually bolted to the table, and the other mounting points, using the insert threads, are going to be enlarged for wood movement. So, if your C channel cannot support being suspended between two steel rulers, sitting atop, and one can press down in the middle and the C channel touches the surface, then that shows by routing and inserting the C channels, in effect, one is only weakening the structure of the wood table top. Metal has 7 characteristics, or properties, and while malleable may be one, spring tension is the offender in this case. The metal can be sprung and return to original shape. My C channels are 2 inches wide, half inch sides, and 1/8 inch thick material. But they can't prevent up to 3/32s movement of the table top, which over a typical width of a table, 36 inches, means the top will then only be held flat, truly, by the fasteners used to attach the table to the base. If using Z clips, as I tend to do, that means more stress/pressure (or less chances) of the Z clip actually moving in the groove as intended, to design for wood movement. Add breadboard ends, on any table top less than an inch and a quarter, and chances are that stress is applied to the breadboard ends' joinery as well. If one uses drawboard dowels through holes to attach the breadboard ends, that stress may, in time, actually be enough to hairline crack, say walnut, where the breadboard ends are attached and mounted with drawbore dowel construction. My table is 1 inch thick and I was intending to follow your video and inset C channels into the table top, but can see they won't add strength, but most likely take away strength once routed into the wood of the table top, as that walnut top would then be routed out. Just want to pass that test along so maybe your readers can decide whether routing a table, that they spent so many hours prepping and gluing together, will warrant C channels. Take your C channels, suspend above a flat surface, and press in the middle of the channel and watch how much movement, or spring, the channel allows.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that information and your input 👍
@rf8driver
@rf8driver Жыл бұрын
Thank you for that. I tried using a stainless steel 1/4 X 2 inch flat bar to correct a quarter inch warp on a 2 X 4 foot table top, 1 1/4 inch thick. The steel bar bent and did little to the tabletop.
@robsandstrom9854
@robsandstrom9854 5 жыл бұрын
I can be slow - you explained purpose of C channel at beginning. Based on that purpose this eliminates need for breadboard ends. Is this correct? No need for both one or the other
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Correct. Definitely wouldn’t need to do both
@ForestDogwoodworks
@ForestDogwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын
If I've got a small coffee table only 44' long by 13" wide is that even worth putting sea channels in
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 2 жыл бұрын
No, I don’t even think they are needed. That said, I don’t think they hurt anything either.
@ForestDogwoodworks
@ForestDogwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын
@Bent's Woodworking & More OK thank you for your help I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't move to bad
@hrayrohanyan4498
@hrayrohanyan4498 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, i have made tabel top (oak) 40inch wide and 80 long, and thikness is 1.5 inch. Dray wood about 8%. Is it crucial to use C channels? And is there any other option to chose instaed of C channel and braedbord to keep tabel top stable. Thank tou in advance
@rjtumble
@rjtumble 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I never even considered using c channel for this kind of thing, can't wait to give it a try.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@mrpaint055
@mrpaint055 5 жыл бұрын
Should the holes for threaded inserts be the same for hard wood as soft wood? Or is there a chart somewhere?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Good question. They actually sell ones for hardwoods and softwoods.
@Bravo_Kilo_Kilo
@Bravo_Kilo_Kilo 4 жыл бұрын
I have a live edge walnut slab that is 23 inches wide by 8 feet long. Do you think I would need a c channel to keep the bar top level in the future? By the way great video. Thanks for explaining and providing a link where to purchase.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
I would say they would definitely help.
@Bravo_Kilo_Kilo
@Bravo_Kilo_Kilo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to provide a response. I appreciate. Keep up the great content.
@pauldidzbalis1735
@pauldidzbalis1735 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video! I' am starting a new dining table build and have never used the C Channel for prior projects, but considering it for this one. I'm using 1.5" walnut, once planed down it will be app 1 -1/4". I'm finding a lot of pre-manufactured C Channels, similar to the one in your video being 1" in depth....Would you recommend using a 1'' deep c-channel for 1-1/4" thick walnut panels??
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
Check out Bidwell wood company. That’s who I get mine through. They gave me a discount code as well for my audience. BENTS10
@rayward9726
@rayward9726 2 жыл бұрын
Paul, I have a 1-1/4” thick table top as well. I will be using C-channel that has 1/2” legs and the steel is 1/8” thick, and the channel is 2” wide. Bought mine through Etsy and the company is Csonkas Custom Rustics. I think the 1” deep channel is too deep for a 1-1/4” thick top. Hope this helps.
@mcwbyu82
@mcwbyu82 5 жыл бұрын
great video . . .confused why you needed to cut the grooves 1 3/16" deep though. Isnt total depth still just 1"?
@dodgydino62
@dodgydino62 5 жыл бұрын
I thought the same
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Lol. Actually...... that’s a great point! 🤣 I guess you wouldn’t need to do that
@tang234
@tang234 5 жыл бұрын
To allow for the thickness of the metal so it fits flush maybe?
@tonyjover
@tonyjover 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, I thought that too.
@andrewwappner5968
@andrewwappner5968 5 жыл бұрын
I was so confused by this too. Total depth is still just 1"
@mockatu
@mockatu 4 жыл бұрын
Do you address using the C channel to flatten a top that is slightly crowned or cupped, which so many slab tables are after glue up? In my experience the brace needs to be tensioned opposite the table top to counteract those stresses and bring it flat
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t address anything like that. This video is meant more to show someone how to go about installing one. The logic makes sense to me though but I couldn’t answer it for you
@robstooladdiction3763
@robstooladdiction3763 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason, great Video. I´m currently working on an oak-tabletop and considering using c-channels as well. One thing I´m wondering about is the depth of cut for the channel in certain height tabletops. Any concerns about cutting that deep into a tabletop and still have enough "meat" for strength over the whole length of the top? What are your thoughts about that?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
Depends on the thickness of the table top. Typically c channels are used mostly on big slab tables. I just wanted to take the opportunity to demonstrate how it can be done. I don’t even think they are necessary in most cases.
@nicolekelly8449
@nicolekelly8449 2 жыл бұрын
Hi great video it was super helpful! I have a question hopefully you can help me. I bought a c channel that is 3/16” in thickness and the ends are 3/4” deep. I can’t seem to find a router bit that goes to that depth in 3/16” diameter. I’m not sure if they sell one online but I haven’t been able to find one. What would you suggest I could do?
@debonify
@debonify 4 жыл бұрын
Would this method fix a table that has already sagged a bit?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
I think it could help but it could also cause other problems depending on the severity and direction of the sag
@mikegreer1760
@mikegreer1760 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I am looking for a new shop apron. What brand is yours?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
This is from Leather by Dragonfly (used to be called Dragonfly Woodworking) www.leatherbydragonfly.com/
@antbotwoodworking4668
@antbotwoodworking4668 4 жыл бұрын
In the c channel you bought from HD, what size holes did you drill? Great video, thank you!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t remember the exact size but I drilled them slightly larger then the bolts I used
@antbotwoodworking4668
@antbotwoodworking4668 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I drilled two 3/8” holes and used a file to create the slotted holes. HD also had 1/4x20x20 threaded inserts that’ll I’ll try. This video is super helpful. Thank you!
@yoavklein123
@yoavklein123 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a question - why do you use threaded inserts and not just screws?
@UOfan714
@UOfan714 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, great video! I am planning on installing three of these on an eastern red cedar live edge table. Should I use Waterlox sealer in the channels before installing the steel, or just leave the grooves un-finished? Thank you
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I would always finish before final assembly of hardware. Cut it, dry fit it, then remove, then finish, then reassemble. Just make sure you account for the thickness of the finish when sitting out the c channels.
@UOfan714
@UOfan714 4 жыл бұрын
@@bentswoodworking Thank you!
@gideonism
@gideonism 5 жыл бұрын
Hi. Great vid. How many C channels would you use for a 6ft table?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
I just used one towards each end.
@mikeleethekeepitrealdiyguy8031
@mikeleethekeepitrealdiyguy8031 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, great info on the video. I do have a question.I have seen the installation of c-channels horizontal on the table. On the footage you have in the video the c-channels appear to be parallel to the longest length of the table. Is there any particular science to it? Please elaborate. Or anyone that has an opinion feel free to respond. Thanks,
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you could I suppose but it would looks strange. However, no one would ever see it.
@mattottley1480
@mattottley1480 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, the piece of wood he is working on is not an actual table, he fabricated this piece as a section of table for demonstration purposes. Cheers hope this helps.
@robertball3578
@robertball3578 5 жыл бұрын
Any reason to not install the C channel face down so the routing can be skipped? You might want to break the corners but it is protected by the apron. Inletting would be needed if the table doesn't have an apron.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
I suppose you could but personally I would want it flush
@pavelstolarczyk9699
@pavelstolarczyk9699 5 жыл бұрын
You are also cutting out much more wood of you flip it upside down. The benefit of the c channel is that you don't need to remove too much wood and sacrifice the strength of the table.
@robertball3578
@robertball3578 5 жыл бұрын
@@pavelstolarczyk9699 you don't need to remove any wood, just surface mount the channel.
@pavelstolarczyk9699
@pavelstolarczyk9699 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Ball Yeah you could but that would look ugly and possibly get in the way.
@robertball3578
@robertball3578 5 жыл бұрын
@@pavelstolarczyk9699 note that I said it would only work if you have an apron to hide it.
@brockdykxhoorn--2943
@brockdykxhoorn--2943 4 жыл бұрын
If my c channels are 1.25” thick and my tabletop is 1.5” thick will that create a weak point? Should I buy a shallower c channel?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
I think you would still be ok personally but if you could get shallower you could do that as well
@brockdykxhoorn--2943
@brockdykxhoorn--2943 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply! Im definitely nervous about it. I’m going to see if I can find something smaller otherwise will go with what I have. Thanks again!
@fuelishways
@fuelishways 4 жыл бұрын
What would you recommend for a 10 foot 1 inch think table to keep it from sagging lengthwise?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
Well, the base that it sits on would assist with that.
@erikbell3637
@erikbell3637 4 жыл бұрын
The concept for expansion works with the c-channel, but what about the legs?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
What about the legs?
@espnmk
@espnmk 5 жыл бұрын
great vid thanks for the tips and tricks with tools and accessories. the router bit extender is that from festool or other company? i'm always having depth issues because the router bits are either too short, there is some longer reaching router bits but sometimes not in the cutter that i am using. thanks again for the tips
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
It isn’t an extender. It was just a 1/4 collet for the bit.
@rmyukon
@rmyukon 4 жыл бұрын
Is it overkill/redundant to do a breadboard end AND a C-Channel?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
I would say yes. I also wouldn’t even say a bread board or a c channel is even needed in a lot of cases.
@LumberjackLeetch
@LumberjackLeetch Жыл бұрын
A friend of mine wants to put the channel in upside down with the legs up. He doesn’t want to router the 1/4” slots on the sides. I’ve tried to tell him that this isn’t the correct way but he insists it won’t make a difference. What do you think? @bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking Жыл бұрын
I would advise against it
@superglue46
@superglue46 5 жыл бұрын
Would a C-Channel be necessary if your table has an apron fastened with tabletop clips? Wouldn't that ~3" tall board serve the purpose of holding the top flat? (Genuine question, not trying to be a smart-ass. I'm about to do a 5/4" thick, 34" wide tabletop out of cherry and was assuming the apron would serve the "keep it flat" purpose... might just do breadboard ends..)
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
The way I look at it is if you were doing breadboards, then c channels would serve no purpose. If you didn’t do breadboards the c channels would serve a purpose. Either would be more effective in keeping the top flat over the clips.
@superglue46
@superglue46 5 жыл бұрын
@@bentswoodworking makes sense, thanks for your reply! If you're going to put all the effort into making a gorgeous table, might as well take an extra step to keep it flat. You've talked me into it haha
@MugenSaint
@MugenSaint 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think about using c-channel upside-down because... one doesn't have a plunge router? Asking for a friend =)
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
You could I suppose but you could also use a fixed base router
@Environmenthrall
@Environmenthrall 4 жыл бұрын
Would this be feasible in plywoods?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t see how it would be necessary
@rebeccas.670
@rebeccas.670 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t see the links and is there a link for router bits
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
The links are in the description 👍
@gerardsainsbury5886
@gerardsainsbury5886 3 жыл бұрын
I can read between the lines - ok now I’m gonna have to save up for a festool router
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a great router
@DRMadeIt
@DRMadeIt 5 жыл бұрын
How do you like that apron?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Love it. About to have a new one that will be even better. 🙂
@homerscustoms7635
@homerscustoms7635 5 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy the apron from
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Leather By Dragonfly (previously Dragonfly Woodworking and Leather)
@darrenmars
@darrenmars 5 жыл бұрын
When that C-channel just dropped in... Ooh yeah!
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
😎
@mrx.2233
@mrx.2233 5 жыл бұрын
What is the propose of using a c channel in that table top. A little lost here.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
It’s just a mock table top to demonstrate the technique. When I was done I removed the c channel and threw the wood away
@mrx.2233
@mrx.2233 5 жыл бұрын
Ok
@GFSwinger1693
@GFSwinger1693 4 жыл бұрын
In theory, since you had an apron on your real table you could have just flipped it over and not bothered with the recess at all. Granted, it would not have been as eloquent a solution and your video woukd have been way shorter bot fut those without all the neccesary tools it is an option.
@kirillsh8383
@kirillsh8383 5 жыл бұрын
one question, why you need this c channel here?
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
You don’t, this is just a video demonstrating the technique. When I was done, the wood went to the trash.
@kirillsh8383
@kirillsh8383 5 жыл бұрын
@@bentswoodworking I see
@justinomalley6038
@justinomalley6038 4 жыл бұрын
Suspicious that a guy named Bent is teaching us how to keep tables flat
@williamellis8993
@williamellis8993 5 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, Jason. Just one question - where's your hearing protection?! I didn't see it in the video.
@stallionranchwoodworks
@stallionranchwoodworks 5 жыл бұрын
No need for the Safety Police. He's a grown man and been doing this for awhile. I'm sure he knows whats needed.
@paul_mason_
@paul_mason_ 5 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me the model of that little ruler with red stop - many thanks , from a new subscriber
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a Paolini Ruler from Woodpeckers. There is a link to the set in the description. The one in the video is the 6” mode
@paul_mason_
@paul_mason_ 5 жыл бұрын
@@bentswoodworking thanks for the reply, $55 for shipping to the UK, think I'll pass lol
@katabrontes
@katabrontes 4 жыл бұрын
@@paul_mason_ Try Woodworkers workshop in UK
@sheilbwright7649
@sheilbwright7649 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, I can't see the advantage of c-channel over flat bar with the same slots. I'm not saying there isn't, just I have missed it.
@dodgydino62
@dodgydino62 5 жыл бұрын
I'm presuming a flat bar can now where there's less chance with a c frame
@dodgydino62
@dodgydino62 5 жыл бұрын
Can bow i meant to say
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
C channel is more ridged
@sheilbwright7649
@sheilbwright7649 5 жыл бұрын
@@bentswoodworking Thanks for that.
@porthose2002
@porthose2002 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason. Just a thought for you. I love your videos but at the beginning of this video where you were zooming in and out between paragraphs was really distracting to me.
@bentswoodworking
@bentswoodworking 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your feedback 👍
@MD-en3zm
@MD-en3zm 4 жыл бұрын
Lol @ the festool disclaimer. Do you get that many stupid comments griping about the festool?
@bouhunter6176
@bouhunter6176 5 жыл бұрын
Sound!!!!!
@frankcornfield5915
@frankcornfield5915 5 жыл бұрын
Verbose. This video could have been done in half the time.
@alexbutler8223
@alexbutler8223 5 жыл бұрын
Frank Cornfield ..... so skip through it.... duhhhh
@MD-en3zm
@MD-en3zm 4 жыл бұрын
You can change the playback speed to 2x.
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