How to install DLSS in Starfield

[@impo997]

I strongly recommend everyone to support this guy that made dlss3 free. Saved all of us from this malicious DRM paywall one.

[@DeafEcho27]

Yes! I’d rather donate to someone who made a free mod than give money to someone trying to benefit off of others.

[@XiLock_Alotx]

Definitely a nice thought.

[@akhilvarma1743]

It’s crashing frequently though

[@AleksPlaysMc]

@@akhilvarma1743I’d take a crash every hour or two over 40-50fps

[@SgtKickAzzYT]

I agree someone post a link or where to go.

[@brenman14]

Just FYI, you can turn off FG by opening the config JSON file in the Starfield file and changing the "enableFrameGeneration" value to "False"

[@thereallettuceweabois5918]

Thank you so much 🙏

[@TerraWare]

@@thereallettuceweabois5918 You have to run the game after installing the mod for the config file to generated. Also be aware that there are some crashing chances, usually when fast traveling with your ship but also loading screen sometimes but it mostly happens in space for some reason.

[@extraspicymint]

@@TerraWareyeah , had to turn off FG because every time I would load into another system it would “star field has stopped working”. Hopefully it gets fixed soon

[@Guldfisken90]

@@extraspicymint turn autosaving off and you won't see crashes

[@PuppetMaster-Blade]

Meanwhile on Xbox i just install the game and play, no issues . Xbox Master Race 😎

[@Mystical_Zeus]

PLEASE MAKE MORE OF THESE VIDEOS :D Absolutely love this kind of community QoL driven mod stuff. Could even show how to make some emulated games you guys like make run well. I would personally LOVE that and we would all get to see what kinds of classic games you guys also like.

[@brandonmccarthy9224]

Thank you guys, I literally went from 38fps to 80fps. The person who made the mod is beauty as well

[@IceWaveJon]

So many people have skimmed the patch notes and not actually read it, dlss support is one the things they are working on as a priority not something that's in the latest update.

[@beachslap7359]

The fact that a user implementation of dlss completely humiliates fsr is the best advertisement nvidia could hope for. Thanks amd!

[@MTBScotland]

It doesn't even need it. the fact you half to pay for it rather than it coming free in the game shows how much nvidia cares about it's users.

[@MBSteinNL]

More likely shows how utterly shit Bethesda is in implementing wrappers. This isn't on AMD, but on Failthesda.

[@ceasartemporada2517]

@@MTBScotlandthis mod isnt made by nvidia wtf u talkin about

[@therealmaart]

@@MBSteinNLthis definitely is on AMD lol FSR ain’t it

[@ztks]

He literally said both look good. The only reason DLSS is better is the frame gen... which FSR 3 will add even for older NVIDIA cards.

[@vegasviking86]

The DLSS and FOV mods together make for a great pairing. 100+ hours and no crashes so far

[@Jst4vdeos]

Wasn't the game released like... 4 days ago? 100+ hours?

[@expiredbrownie374]

7 days early access for whoever got "premium" version@@Jst4vdeos i got 90hr too

[@vegasviking86]

@@Jst4vdeos early access

[@CnRJay]

@@Jst4vdeos homie has no life haha

[@Jst4vdeos]

@@vegasviking86 still

[@PsiPepe]

Also, I believe the issue with starfields optimization is lack of occlusion culling, and the draw call count. Bethesda games are usually limited by the engine, and draw call count specifically, if you install something like reshade, you can see in that area there are something like 60k draw calls in one buffer. In skyrim, 11k was around where you were locked at 40fps, anything more was exponentially worse from there. The utilization for me in that area was only like 70%. If they add occlusion planes or any kind of smart rendering techniques, it would help a TON

[@XiLock_Alotx]

Doesn’t explain why AMD GPU’s are clearly outperforming Nvidia’s.

[@mrpiratefox4497]

@@XiLock_Alotx cuz it was optimized as a Console/AMD game first, easy as that. Same thing happens with Nvidia with anything RT related

[@TalesOfWar]

If only they knew about this super new technique of not rendering the things you can't see in the scene! If only they knew before development started that this tech existed and would help out so much? It isn't like DX9 had support for such things in 2003, or all the white papers and wider introduction of such things in game engines around 2007. Oh...

[@Asterra2]

@@mrpiratefox4497 That's simply not an adequate explanation. You will never find another case of a significant AMD/Nvidia discrepancy in pure rasterization, where the difference is so large that it literally equates to an entire tier/generation lost. A 4090 is neck and neck with a 7900XTX-the traditional competition of the 4080. _Some 40% of the 4090's performance is left on the table._ Further evidence? The power draw when Starfield is "100% utilizing" an Nvidia GPU is dramatically below where it should be. _Also_ something heretofore unseen to this degree. Starfield broke the record. I can't _wait_ until this gets its due scrutinization.

[@mrpiratefox4497]

@@Asterra2 its literally as simple as it is. It was optimized for AMD first

[@Beezzzzy_]

Thank you guys for the video on how to add DLSS. Also if you’re on an NVidia GPU lower the Shadow quality from Ultra to high, makes a huge difference.

[@sharkey9]

Jay I really love how after all those years you still do manage to do everything on your own. You could just have some of your minions to do some work for you but NO! you take care of everything yourself! A shining idol as always!

[@xTWEAKMYSTERo]

He had help though...

[@EagleMitch]

​@@xTWEAKMYSTERoyou missed the sarcasm in that comment.

[@xTWEAKMYSTERo]

@@EagleMitch I did 😭

[@EagleMitch]

@@xTWEAKMYSTERo Your comment sins are forgiven! Go in peace. LOL

[@dylanguerrero8053]

Thank you Jay for you personally teaching me how to install DLSS

[@MustangSkar]

Best and most useful comment so far. Everyone trying to be political.

[@Splarkszter]

You should thank the people that actually made the work and made it free. Support and donate to them.

[@criznittle968]

Jay should have let someone else do this part

[@dylanguerrero8053]

@@Splarkszter but it was JayzTwoCentz who physically in taught me how to install this mod in person

[@BloodmoonPyke]

​@@SplarkszterNah, I'd rather thank the people who made the people who made this mod. I will donate and support them to make more people who make mods.

[@Ghosty4k]

Thank you for personally showing how to install the mod Jay :)

[@DeepSouthSimulations]

I've been running the dlss mod on my 4090. I did come across a bug in the mod that causes the game to freeze on loading screens sometimes and crash to desktop. I was unable to leave a planet because it would lock up every time. If you come across this issue, turn the FSR2 setting to off until you get past that point. Looking at the messages on Nexus under the mod it appears the developer is aware of the crashes and looking into it.

[@akhilvarma1743]

Yes mine to getting crashed frequently just deleted it

[@nPulse]

I uninstalled it because of the many crashes (4080mobile)

[@gavinderulo12]

Im using the puredark mod (without framegen) and have had 0 issues. Not a single crash during 15 hours. Also on a 4090.

[@TheBottleneckedGamer]

Set a one to two second delay on frame gen and block in all menus and it will be fine

[@CompanionIvyChannel]

This has now (today) been fixed. The mod seems very stable now (just played 3 hours with extensive loading/space/traveling) with no CTD's on my 4070.

[@35jdub]

I had this mod installed, and after this recent update, the game bricked on startup. Had to go into the files and remove these DLSS mods. I tried reinstalling all together, and that didn't work, so I had to take the mod completely out.

[@sibannac_sevol8250]

If not stated yet, the newest nvidia update has created an issue opening save files when this dlss mod is being used, to fix just remove all the mod files and reDL the updated mod files, install as before

[@darthsirrius]

As someone who was lucky enough to win the Newegg Lottery TWICE during the major supply shortages, and got a 5950x, and a ROG STRIX 3090, being told I need to "upgrade my PC" to get more than 30 frames at 4K is a major slap in the face lol.

[@kevinhenderson9989]

Should have turned off dynamic resolution. Also, there is a config file that appears after starting the game once after mod installation. The mod can be configured properly using it. Other than that it's a good installation tutorial.

[@Senpaization]

Don't you need to have dynamic resolution on for FSR 2 to do anything at all? I could be wrong but also do you just mean you wanted to see raw horse power without any upscale/downscaling to begin with?

[@kevinhenderson9989]

Hi, no it's not required to be turned on for fsr, dlss or frame gen to work. @@Senpaization

[@gavinderulo12]

​@@Senpaizationdynamic resolution has nothing to do with FSR. Also, dynamic Res is optimized for the console Version, so it only kicks in if you are below 30fps.

[@garethsmith6611]

JayZ. Just want to say thank you for this video. I have been playing Starfield with the DLSS mod for a week now and didnt realise I installed the files totally wrong. Hahaha. I have now done it correctly and im blown away with the improved quality and fps i've gained Getting around 80 to 90 fps now on my 3090ti. thanks. Would love to see more content like this in the future because it was very clear and straight forward and easy to understand, all while been funny too. great work,

[@theimperialtoyota3494]

Amazing! I'd recommend changing to a 4080 for better performance and lower price (3090ti is a chungus monster but expensive)

[@Corgitron9000]

This worked perfectly, exactly how you showed, unlike the other mod. I followed the instructions step by step, followed forum guides step by step, and also followed various users' step by steps, nothing ever got that paid DLSS mod working for me. Thank you so much for breaking this down barney style.

[@siliconartGAMING]

I love B roll intergrated throughout the video, made it so much better

[@Chitown-zf4gs]

My 3090ti was getting about 43fps on ultra. Turned it down to low and I went up to a lovely 50 lol. This was at 1440p. Before seeing all these vids, I really thought something was wrong with my gpu

[@svendtang5432]

How can y get this .. I have a 6750 xt and 5600x.. and run 40-60 on ultra no fsr.. what’s the vram amount..

[@XiLock_Alotx]

Well it’s an AMD partnership with BGS and MS. Hence why Nvidia GPU’s are struggling compared to the competition.

[@Chitown-zf4gs]

@@svendtang5432 I can’t remember off top, but I’m nowhere near maxing it out. Like Jay said, this game is optimized for amd cards. This is the first game I’ve had trouble with since buying the card, and the visuals definitely aren’t worth the performance hit

[@garethwilliams3602]

​@@svendtang5432It's because the game is optimised for amd cards at a software level. It's a complicated task which is why modding starfield has become so prevalent. The game just runs better on amd, not because of amd cards being better but because of the back hand deals as mentioned in the video. I am gutted because I have a 2080 and I game at 1080p. Other games that look way better play fine. Even modern ones like call of duty, harry potter, last of us play at a solid 60fps. When they optimised the game, they focused purely on the amd bottlenecks in the code as opposed to multiple platforms from intel and Nvidia. The bs from Microsoft is denial of this when it is blatantly obvious. It's not for gamers nor is it gamer friendly. What's stupid is, they'd make more money optimising it for Nvidia which has the majority of GPUs in the gaming world. More people would be willing to buy.

[@MMaRsu]

Whats your cpu? That doesnt sound right bud

[@nichetcher1]

We need Jay doing a podcast with modders, manufacturers, and many others! I could see that becoming huge!

[@unavailable291]

modders should get sued... period.

[@LightS_bRight]

​@@unavailable291okay tyrant, let me guess, you're against the right to repair¿?

[@DeadPhoenix86DP]

@@unavailable291 Hold This L !!!

[@chapst1k158]

@@unavailable291someone sounds hurt.

[@unavailable291]

@@LightS_bRight is the game open source? No.

[@mathesar]

The DLSS mod was updated today to v1.1.0 and seems to of solved the random crashes, 3 hours played so far today and no issues.

[@tristencyborg]

I like how jay had to switch with Phil and try to take the credit.😂 I love this channel man😊

[@dweisz2633]

So, I did what you guys said my system CPU is i9 10900k with 16 gigs of ram and a 1080 ti Med to High settings in the city area I'm getting 69 fps to 85 fps and looks great! I'm wondering in my opinion if the amount of CPU cores plays more into a better game play then the graphic card does. Because I had it running on my AMD system running a Ryzen 5 5600x same ram and card and it played worse. Most setting are on High except shadows on Med. Low and Med made no difference. Oh, one more thing rez is set 2560 x 1440.

[@imniallg]

Strangely enough,” it’s a little less dog shit” is Starfield first DLC. There is also so many mods that make this game look so much better, like removing it’s weird color grading. But FOV and DLSS where the first mods I added. With that I also applied a levels curve that adjusted the shadows.

[@rhyshutchin5]

The neutral LUTs mod has made the game look 1000x times better.

[@ronit8067]

could not get the color mod working no matter what i tried@@rhyshutchin5

[@British_Dragon-4K-Simulations]

@@rhyshutchin5Yeah. Neutral LUT’s is essential for true blacks. And the bonus Space settings. I also forced Auto HDR to work. I have a list of visual mods and links on one of my last videos that I’m currently using. The 120fps UI is useful as well. Especially for in Space flight. I want the enhanced 4K textures mod next but I’m waiting for it to be more refined. I’m trying to be conservative with mods as it’s my first play through.

[@corbra4274]

ya 50% with dlss 4k looks sharp but damn this should be running way better

[@LabelsAreMeaningless]

FOV can be done with a simple ini tweak.

[@maximus7288]

DLSS mod doesn't work anymore with the new Starfield update

[@dicesdw]

Bc we’re getting official support

[@singed420snowinit9]

I use Nvidias game filter to add sharpening and to improve textures, it's so good to counteract the reduced quality with upscaling.

[@XxFusionsk8rxX]

I have been too, that's one reason I still have the slightest liking to Nvidia

[@terrysimons]

This broke with the update from 2023.09.13. It was working yesterday, and now my game crashes on load. If I remove the dlss files my games load again.

[@bloganc]

Same thing happening to me as well.

[@jasonwatson7467]

@JayzTwoCents they patched this out yesterday (09/13) worked fine with significant improvement on an RTX4090, then new patch applied on GamePass version and game crashes on start, guess will wait until the official announced DLSS support gets patched in.

[@Justaplebxd1998]

the classic ''it's not our badly optimized game you just need a better computer''

[@ZenTunE-]

Except it's not always a lie, people complain when their 5 year old card cant run a modern game and blame it on optimization lmao

[@Guldfisken90]

A 5 year old card SHOULD be able to run most games these days at low to medium settings@@ZenTunE-

[@RyanFennec]

​@@ZenTunE-pretty much

[@brando3342]

@@ZenTunE- His comment is implying the overuse of that excuse, not that it is never true. Surely it is over, and misused to blame the consumer rather than taking responsibility.

[@OriginalCatfish42]

​@@ZenTunE-if you get less than 60fps on a 4000 series.. the game is badly optimized. Stop defending Bethesda for doing this game after game after game.

[@ZeZZooo]

Thanks for the guide Jay, that you alone totally did for us 😎

[@xMovingTarget]

You also gotta have to enable ReBar. This isnt enabled by default on nvidia. Nvidia profile inspector lets you do it. gave me 5-10 FPS on 3070Ti/12600k

[@Atomy111]

Uhhhhh.... If you have an intel gpu then yes you need rebar, otherwise not really

[@Davidium84]

Puredarks DLSS3 implementation of Frame-Generation put me from 65 fps to 120 using DLAA @ 4K 100 res scaling so... @ night @ same place using Ultra settings. And it's the first time I don't feel any lag or wobbling going on when using DLSS3... Is your "not 4090" badly optimized? Puredark is doing some magic stuff Imo! I believe that Frame-Gen mod you used is quite a bit worse and 5 EUR for it wasn't a big ask TBH giving double performance on my 13900KF+MSI-4090! Always double the FPS which is quite nice indeed and the quality is just fantastic!

[@dapperdoggo8347]

iv tried most the methods now and from my experience using the DLSS mod and undervolting your GPU helps fix crashes A LOT

[@OriginalCatfish42]

The fact that we need to mod this game AND use frame generation to get it somewhat playable is absolutely ridiculous.. I'm playing on potato settings and this game is frying my pc.

[@b.c.b.-2130]

You should inform your viewers about the frequent crashing that everyone is experiencing with this mod. That crash you had at the end of the video is what hundreds of people (and thousands of posts) are discussing on Nexus. Nobody has been able to get it 100% stable yet. Personally, my game crashed on any loading screens so I had to uninstall it.

[@AntWrig]

Agree 100%

[@Peylix]

I run this mod with my 4080. Only time I get crashes is if I sit in pause menu too long (10 or more minutes). But there are crashes. Only started happening with Luke's mod for me. But it's been rare for me. I usually almost never sit in a pause screen/menu. If I need to walk away for a period of time, I close out the game entirely. I only noticed this 10 minute mark because I got distracted chatting with someone. Had it happened, and went back to try and replicate it (took me a few tries to learn it was the sitting idle for 10+ mins in a menu).

[@christianrobloxserver7282]

Same. Running a 4070 ti and ryzen 7 7700 and this mod causes crashes every 5 or so pauses/fast travels. Shit is unplayable

[@GregoryShtevensh]

Im running 75fps capped with no dips and no upscaling at 1440p using a mixture of high and med and ultra settings based on HUBs recommended settings. Using an RTX 4080. Haven't felt the need to upscale or use frame gen just yet. I was hitting vsync-cap of 165fps at times of low resource requirements. And probably could have capped it at 85 or even 60 depending on taste. For me the extra 15fps is noticeable and the smooth frame times is what makes it work. If I ever install mods that really push the GPU into trouble, I'll go with DLSS and/or FG then Edit: also, I haven't had a single CTD yet! Which actually IS impressive! Hopefully that lasts a lot longer

[@Grimalken1969]

Thanks man. It's creazy how so many of the topics you cover are the exact same things I have been looking into on my own, only to discover you've already done it.

[@thenext9537]

Even on medium, this game just doesn't look great at any setting. Go back to 2008, Crysis. That game was a TRUE strain on systems because of the visuals. This? Starfield looks like an older game from maybe Oblivion era with some mods, or maybe Skyrim. Creation engine 1 was for Fallout 4, but an 'iteration' to make Creation Engine 2 just seems like they added on more stuff and expect us to brute force the performance. Howard saying that performance issues "Maybe you need to upgrade your pc" comments are NOT helpful. Why people running 4090's and AMD 7950XD with 32-64 GB ram having issues? HMM? That guy is so out of touch, doesn't see the ground floor. The specs? Min vs recc? What were they based on? Potato? I will say glad VATS is gone, It's what's kept me from Fallout. I loved Fallout 3, and Vegas but I had to use mods to really enjoy the game. That seems like the case here. I also think in the next few months we will see some 'overhaul' type mods where things will open up. The gun play is pretty standard stuff, doesn't feel anything like a modern shooter. I have a 6700k oc'd to 5.1 with some semi agressive volts, (I got lucky, but it's old now) a 2080 super with a 490 MHZ oc (zotac amp extreme, which again lucky - it was already oc'd), 32 GB ram, and a 1tb nvme that is fast as hell. How is Starfield? Well, I ran on ultra, and on high and I just did the first battle and went to some city and I'm sitting in the high 20's to sometimes 55 SOMETIMES.

[@Enakaji]

The interesting part is that the performance issues don't seem to be limited to just non-AMD GPUs either. According to the recent Digital Foundry video of the PC Version of Starfield, it also seems to have "issues" with Intel CPUs, where to get the best performance with those you should disable both eCores as well as Hyperthreading because both of those features will loose you performance in starfield while on AMD CPUs SMT works just fine and as expected will boost the games performance compared to SMT beeing disabled.

[@toddward3855]

Was this test Jay did with intel? Something looked suspicious when his 3080 ti was getting 15-20 fps lower in New Atlantis with lower settings than my EVGA hybrid with a 5900X.

[@VioIetteMolotov]

There are multiple proof videos showing that disabling e-cores, especially for gaming, does nothing to help you, and usually works as a detriment by an average of 5%. Leave e-cores on.

[@Enakaji]

@@VioIetteMolotov As said, this is a Starfield specific issue. Digital Foundry showed in their video from yesterday that a 12900k looses around 12% performance with eCores and HT enabled. Disabling HT but leaving eCores enabled gives you an additional 2% performance in starfield and disabling only the eCores but leaving HT enabled gives 8-10% additional performance. This again is not an issue with AMD CPUs where having SMT enabled improves performance by around 5% compared to turning SMT off.

[@MysteryMii]

I wouldn’t be shocked if there was a clause in that deal that FSR exclusivity would only be temporary and official DLSS support would be added in an update somewhere down the line. The last Bethesda game that had an AMD marketing deal that only launched with FSR (Deathloop) ended up receiving DLSS support in an update after launch, and one of the games that caused people to begin speculating if AMD was forcing FSR exclusivity on games with AMD marketing deals (Star Wars Jedi: Survivor) ironically got an update the day before Starfield launched that added official DLSS support.

[@diogovieira3362]

how long did it took for DL to get DLSS after launch? its not that I can't run the game at all or like it runs terribly bad, but it might run a whole lot better with DLSS, and probably look better aswell, and maybe also have variable FOV, and HDR settings....

[@lalilola3770]

@@diogovieira3362About 5 months give or take

[@MysteryMii]

@@diogovieira3362 DL was a month after release. I don’t think the length of exclusivity is standardized across all deals, but I would be shocked if Starfield doesn’t get official DLSS support at some point.

[@MrKilladark]

From what insiders said, nvidia did not provide the budget to driver team cause of focusing on their AI teams drivers. Which led to this catastrophic situation then the exce at nvidia were like "let's just say amd blocked them it worked great the last time" Source: moore's law is dead insider info from all the leaves he gets from companies.

[@sentryion3106]

@@MrKilladarkthis is probably what happened. But seriously with how little effort dlss got added it’s hardly an excuse for Bethesda though.

[@Immudzen]

From what I have been reading it seems Starfield does not batch the IO very well. A VERY fast nvme can mitigate this almost entirely but it is still there. Apparently they need to batch the reads a bit more and need a large queue depth. It also seems there are a couple issues related to not aligning memory correctly for allocations and poor usage of indirect calls. The last two issues are due to the new dx12 renderer they added for Starfield. It seems that the AMD driver already accounts for this problem. It is likely that Nvidia can make the same changes and it should also be possible to improve the engine. Overall though I am loving the game. Even if the game is not at a high frame rate it feels very consistent so I don't get any hitching behavior. I am playing on an RTX 4080 at 4K on Ultra. I have not had a single crash (except when I tried to use the DLSS 3 FG mod and that is not Starfield's fault). I have encountered almost no bugs in the game and I have about 60 hours in it at this point.

[@brlowe1]

Strange on my system adding this mod caused me to loose about 20fps. Before adding it I had 61-66 fps sitting in orbit. Added the mod and I was getting 40fps. Changed my setting to lower options and still 40fps. Removed the mod and now back to 65 fps. Running an i9-13900k, 3080 ti and 64GB of ram. System is watercooled.

[@nadeenasnake]

Tried it out, game crashes at the first loading screen, doesn't even get into the game.

[@senmage]

I used dlss swapper and been using 3.5 with my 3090, looks and runs way better than fsr2, hoping fsr3 is actually truly competitive with 3.5 and really excited to see what AMD frame gen would do on my 3090 whenever they reveal how the heck we are gonna even do that.

[@JustAnotherAccount8]

@@PAIN-ot4cj did that totally unnecessary comment make you feel any better about your life?

[@gazzy9136]

@@JustAnotherAccount8 It definitely did. He's maybe just depressed.

[@skydakiller368]

@@PAIN-ot4cj you're defo like 12 lmao

[@bumblefoot5]

I think FSR looks fine on my 6800. Is that them screwing Nvidia users?

[@AyyyGabagool]

YES I can't wait to get frame gen on my 3080ti with fsr3. Rooting for you amd!

[@lordmox21]

"we made starfield for next gen, so you need to upgrade you PC" to what? if the fps tanks even on a 4090, then the user needs to upgrade to what? I bet even on a 5090 the game will not run like it should with a 1600d+ card.

[@iyaramonk]

A 4090 isn't really going to help you. The game hammers the cpu in settlements

[@joshy_bennett]

I found that DLAA causes a kind of ghosting artifact or a sort of halo fringing on edges. It’s highly distracting once you notice it. TAA looks 10x better. I hope Nvidia can improve DLAA because it’s incredible in still frames but terrible in motion. I’d love to see someone cover this so I can be corrected if I’m wrong or inform others of DLAA’s short comings.

[@YTN3rd]

6:25, this changed today (slightly). The first screen of Xbox vs Steam install is now gone as it's a single mod for both.

[@sonsprinter]

what if youre playing this on microsofts game pass? will it still work?

[@dremy746]

There is something fundamentally flawed with Nvidia's game ready drivers for this game. The card says it's at 99% usage but you can tell from the power draw that the card is no where near being fully utilized. I don't know wtf is going on over at Nvidia's drvier team, but I hope this isn't a glimpse of things to come with Nvidia shifting their focus to AI.

[@saphricpcgaming5182]

AI is the future and has the power to take over countries and the world eventually.

[@bjorn1583]

I'm using latest driver and my gpu usage hasnt gone over 80% yet by what afterburner is showing

[@stephenkelly8312]

FSR on 100% scaling looks better than native (FSR off). At least at 1080p, which is what my monitors are. Seriously, the game looks dramatically better with FSR on but not actually upscaling. Maybe it’s the antialiasing, but the textures look much better and more consistent.

[@Adrian-is6qn]

The reason for that is that you have sharpening ON probably.

[@smoothyoda8190]

That's because Native has forced TAA. TAA looks dogwater at 1080p.

[@constantinesoldatos]

Hi, I believe it's the sharpening that comes with FSR, makes things look a bit more crisp. Also a quick tip to everyone, if you're using Ultra settings and are like 7-8 fps shy of 60 try bringing the shadow quality down to high from Ultra, it gives around 7-8 fps, if you bring it further down to medium or low you only gain like 2 so not worth it and shadows look barely worse at High from Ultra. After that bring down the scaling to 90%. Image quality looks extremely close to native (you really have to stick your face on the monitor to see a difference) and you gain a solid +15 fps if you do both. Doesn't sound much but in many cases it's the difference between a choppy and a smooth experience in this game.

[@G11-o7s]

@@Adrian-is6qn No, at 100% it acts like DLAA, but with some shimmering.

[@modymomx]

I have 4090 , my fps in the city at lake area was 75-80 now its 120-130, but tthe mod caused the game to crash when I fast travel in space with a space jump

[@iyaramonk]

I don't use dlss mod and the game still crashes. It's just how Bethesda games roll

[@greggreg2458]

Try disabling auto save

[@modymomx]

@@greggreg2458 I did, but it didn't solve it. He just released a new update I will test it, he said it will solve the crashing issue.

[@modymomx]

After the new DLSS FG mod update, I had no crashing issues so far. But there is a small issue that appears which is when I open the game menu and close it, there will be a small stutter.

[@Explosiivo]

I love the genuine attitude when calling out Howie 7:24 * cheff kiss *

[@19deltascout43]

That's why I absolutely love Jay. He gives the people what they want.

[@liquidsunshine697]

The sharpening slider is for the Nvidia Image Sharpener. Mines at like 20 to avoid the screen flicker.

[@FSAPOJake]

I recommend using the Reshade version with CAS, as AMD's CAS is ironically far far better than NIS and works quite well with DLSS.

[@liquidsunshine697]

@FSAPOJake I will try that at some point. Right now it looks very clean

[@ofrancis]

Thanks for this. It would be really good to get some more realistic use cases for this game. Every video is either 4090 at 1080p or some kind of high end CPU/GPU combination, at Ultra settings. I have a 5600x and 3070, a very common combination and I'd started to think that it was time to upgrade. It was so disheartening. I was resigned to 4K 30fps. Then Digital Foundry posted their optimised settings video, I went back to the drawing board, selected Xbox equiverlent settings and now running at 1440p / DLSS / 59% resolution scale, with a pretty much locked 60fps. Is it perfect? No. Am I now happily playing the game and not worrying about upgrading my PC. Yes.

[@pogtuber5146]

I would in no way shape or form upgrade a PC based on the performance of this game.

[@ofrancis]

@@pogtuber5146 Yep, for sure. I would be very surprised if new Nvidia drivers and game updates don't prove Jay completely right.

[@rgntrucking5719]

First time I have messed with game mods. Good lord can't believe how much of a difference it makes. High presets I went from 45 fps to 77 fps (On a 4070 laptop GPU). Thanks guys! That made it so much easier than I thought it would be!

[@roastxbeefx7744]

This was working, but an update was installed today (09/13) and now it no longer works! Anyone else experiencing this?

[@Digikidthevoiceofreason]

Hey jay…..Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL review?

[@59.9fps]

The immediate red flag about Starfield code optimization is how the GPU is worked up at 99% and yet remains cool at 40's. It means the code is making the GPU do a lot of unnecessary computations without them mattering in the actual rendering pipeline, since increasing/ decreasing graphics settings does not change GPU usage. It is almost as if Starfield is trying to mine crypto in the background. Personally, I get same fps with 1070 Ti (min. GPU required as per Todd) without the mod, as a 3080 Ti (this mod is not for me anyway). The difference is that 3080 Ti here is at 75% of 1440p, and I am at 40% of 1080p (you can go below lowest value of 50% through ini tweaks), i.e. even though in terms of TFLOPS the ratio is 34/8.2 = 4.1, in terms of performance it is 1080/432 = 2.5. If the GPUs do not scale in performance as per their TFLOPS in rasterized rendering, it can only mean unoptimization.

[@yeahbuddy300lbs]

My 4080 is at 99% all the time but drawing way less than 300watts which is a big red flag

[@nuruddinpeters9491]

GeForce Experience overlay can measure latency (ALT+R) - Easiest way to check latency before /after enabling frame-gen. It's just helpful to use in ANY game to measure latency in games without frame gen as well. Also FYI, nexus mod aurthor LukeFZ has 2 different mods, FSR2 Bridger (includes DLSS or XeSS without frame gen) or the forced DLSS3 Frame-Gen Mod (you used in your vid.)

[@prasvt]

Yeah I'm using the FSR2 Bridge version with Reshade / CAS sharpening on my 4080. So basically the same thing w/o FG right? I am hesitant to try the FG just bc of the input lag, but may try it just to see.

[@nuruddinpeters9491]

@prasvt I installed the dlss3 FG mod a few hours after my post. I have a 1440p gsync panel @ 144hz. Gpu is a 4090 paired with a 12700k. In my scenario at 1440p and 4k DLDSR (nvidia control panel,) set my desktop to 4k, With framegen enabled, at 85 percent render res, everything set to max, at 115 fps, i see an average latency of 8.2 ~8.7 I cant feel any crazy input lag above 100 fps with frame gen as it manages to remain around 8.3- 9ms. Im extremely impressed with this mod. Important note: im at the very beginning of the game, after the minining prologue, and you get ambushed by red armor dudes on the base outside of the mining shaft before boarding the ship. (A few dead bodies remain from the red armor dudes, and spinning the camera, 112-120fps with 8.2- 9ms latency. It feels incredible.)

[@nuruddinpeters9491]

@@prasvt With dlss2 bridge mod (no reshade, no sharpening,) avg latency is twice as high, 18-20ms, fps is lower naturally, 75-84fps, and frametime graph is also unstable. (Could be the Shadow thingy Digital foundry spoke about affecting nvidia gpus,) except with the framegen mod, frametime graph isnt nutty and remains consistent with my fps. In my conclusion: The game looks and feels better with framegen mod. (Provided you have a healthy fps above 60 before enabling.) Frame gen with 90 and above+ feels as close to norm as I can feel without perceived input latency. (Same goes for cyberpunk 2077.)

[@its_Fiddy]

EDIT: NEVERMIND, DUDE FIXED THIS YESTERDAY. Frame gen causes a lot of crashes with this mod, especially when you exit full screen menus or load into new areas. You can disable it in the config.json file that gets generated in the root folder after running the game with the mod once. (I haven't tried PureDark's version so no clue if that one also has the issue)

[@tyler3201]

I've seen that turning off motion blur and depth of field can really improve frame rates and help with crashing. You'll still have some crashing. At least I did, just not as bad.

[@adamstull2436]

Always turn that trash off.

[@luizhdcosta]

I got some extra performance as well by enabling Resizable Bar for the game.

[@FizziX_88]

ALL games should come with ALL available upscaling techniques. DLSS does make this game look a lot better upscaled, but it can't fix the bad optimization unfortunately .

[@MBSteinNL]

It's a lot of extra work though especially with DLSS. FSR (software executed) and XeSS (hardware bound) at least are available for all recent platforms AMD respectively Intel offer (with AMD also supporting all recent Intel and Nvidia cards with all FSR versions). DLSS's implementation depends not only on a GeForce card, but also on which generation GeForce and which card in the generation. It's costing way more time to implement that than to implement FSR and XeSS which are more agnostic.

[@99mage99]

@@MBSteinNL Stop lying lmao, adding DLSS to a game is dog water simple. NVidia made the tools practically copy/paste. DLSS can't fix poor optimization though. It's just a bandaid. The better your game is optimized, the better DLSS will perform.

[@greggreg2458]

@@MBSteinNL But a single dude modded it into the game...

[@Fztrm]

@@greggreg2458 What he means is that 1 hour that dude spent on this mod was a lot of extra work which means the FSR implementation probably took 5 minutes (and it also looks like it did)

[@headlesschickenfarm]

​@@MBSteinNL It is not that hard. All texture optimizations need to be turned off and you need motion vectors.. FSR already does this so all you need to do is get the motion vectors. Turning off the optimizations is the hard part.

[@elendil2raiden]

without DLSS 39 FPS, with DLSS 39FPS in my RTX3060 12GB.. dont work for me.. ☹

[@LEXXIUS]

12:07 This "SIDERANT" 😄 And I love how the "3080 Ti" font gets bigger when time Jay keeps calling it "3080"! 😆

[@Constellasian]

Leave it to Bethesda to release another buggy and poorly optimized open world game. I noticed numerous bugs from Oblivion and Skyrim still existing in Starfield. It's BS that Bethesda hasn't figured out how to fix these bugs in their Creation Engine for nearly 20 years now.

[@Corgitron9000]

F in the chat... just 1 hour ago Bethesda patched the game, claiming to add DLSS support. There is no DLSS option and now the free DLSS mod crashes the game upon loading a save. Bethesda... they just need to stop helping and let the modders fix the game.

[@5258scr]

I am so sick of them saying that that it's just you need to upgrade your PC know if it runs on a PS5 or an Xbox series X which is weaker than my PC it should run good on my PC

[@SOWEZKTÄRKE]

Hi all. I've been playing with this dlss2 mod for two days and the picture has really gotten better, but glitches and image bugs have appeared. Sometimes the picture is lost or the screen breaks into two pieces.

[@dochlldy]

How much of a boost(if any) would this give to an Intel ARC A770?I only have a 1080 monitor,so I don't know if it would do much at all.

[@seansmith908]

Big difference on the 4090, Bethesda does have DLSS in the works too so all is looking good! Thanks for the video Jay, easy process!

[@ranidan]

I came into the comments for someone who tried this with a 4090. What FPS did you hit at what quality level? Were you able to break triple digits?

[@christophervanzetta]

Update already dropped

[@DroneinHawaii]

Exactly the video I was looking for thank you ! :)

[@haikaido]

THANK YOU JAY! I never have issues with this type of thing, but holy crap is the mod scene cluttered for this game at the moment, I couldn't figure out which was the most relevant DLSS mod. Cheers man.

[@LeonardoMarchese]

For ppl experiencing crashes, you should try the other DLSS bridge mod it requires reshade for sharpening though. I have 50 hours in and not a single crash.

[@SnowWhite-ui4lz]

Please explain more getting crashes every 4 minutes in so send me your guide were to do this so I can try it

[@Slimmm_DP]

If you think star field is poorly optimised game you should look at escape from tarkov especially the map streets of tarkov I can’t run or load the map with 16gb 3200mhz 5700xt with a r5 2600x

[@jafferscakes7063]

I love you JayzTwoCents keep up the great work

[@cmcgill1990]

Here i was just minding my own business, playing on low settings on my 2060. watched this and bought a new GPU, bloody flags. Thanks Jay.

[@ScoodyxBoo]

J I would love an updated video on how to undervolt. Also is it better to undervolt per core? Or all core?

[@pjpleiss]

Bethesda... tsk tsk tsk. The inability to admit to flaws in your process or product has been the downfall of far too many organizations. Maybe Todd and some other public figures need to pay someone to mutter Memento Mori.

[@jamesjones7034]

Jay: FSR vs DLSS is night and day 100 times better. Also Jay: **tries FSR** Wow, this isn't bad. Way to keep proving you can't be trusted for objective analysis... 🙄

[@vr0k3n]

Damn Jay's transformation for explaining how to install the mod is insane! He even got shorter and younger 😂

[@ronnie8274]

Thanks for the info Jay. I didn't know they were doing back door deals like that. Appreciate it, Ronnie

[@JCTiggs1]

Todd you may need to upgrade your coders.

[@stuartthomson4563]

Gave it a go but sadly didn't see any performance gains but I'm assuming it's due to my hardware, i9-9900K and 2080ti. Some quick testing showed similar performance even if I drop the resolution from 100% to 75%. Getting 48-49fps at 1080p with high settings. Was hoping my PC would hold out at least another year or so but seems in my case I may just need to upgrade, or at least hope more performance optimisation is forthcoming. But given Todd Howards comments that seems unlikely.

[@masonswansonMTU]

Hey Jay, me again, I do really encourage you to look at the power draw while playing starfield.

[@LOJesmire]

Hey I have a question cause I don’t know what to do anymore and you are one with the most knowledge about pcs I know. Have you ever heard of this weird desync/input lag issue a lot of people have with their setup? There is even an electricity/emi Forum on blurbuster where a lot of people have this issue and nothing, really nothing seems to help. I don’t know what to do anymore and maybe you can dig deeper into this topic cause your knowledge is amazing and maybe u can help thousands of people. I could talk for hours about the problem but I guess comment section is too short. I can answer any question you or anyone else have to finally get rid of the weirdest unsolvable problem I ever experienced in my life

[@abi21891]

Do you (or does anyone in the comments section) have a source for the backdoor deal that Bethesda Studios made with AMD you mentioned at 7:28? Genuinely asking, I'm kind of out of the loop on these kinds of things.

[@frankbizzoco1954]

So I'm a bit fuzzy about the whole DLSS-3 thing. I have an RTX 3080, which if I'm not mistaken does not utilize DLSS-3 and thats only exclusive to 40 series cards. Is this info correct? I also have a 1080p monitor, so I can not use any version of DLSS at all because I am not playing at 1440p or 2160p. Im just trying to wrap my head around this, and get the best possible frame boost. I play on high, not ultra and I hover between 53 and 60 fps in New Atlantis..

[@d3lu5ionalGaming]

I haven't tried yet, but when they walked through it they only showed for steam with no disclaimer of game pass. I'm assuming we can still do the mods if installed through game pass? Still watching the video in case it comes up later

[@EL34XYZ]

I bought Starfield through MS store. I play on Xbox series X and a gaming laptop. You get both versions by only buying one. Does this work for the MS store PC version?

[@baysedgamer]

Thank you! Not sure you saw my comment on previous video asking for this but thank you

[@telenikros]

One other thing you may want to look at Jay is the nvidia profile inspector for Starfield, as their is a page on steam community about it where the say goes to set it cause the resizable bar isn't active in the drivers for Starfield

[@zZRedVeNoMZz]

I'm very surprised to see you making a video on starfield Awesome.

[@temqiu]

@JayzTwoCents, what chair you have? Looks fantastic! Thanks!

[@findmi2708]

i have a question, well this is not about the video but, i wonder if i need to upgrade my PSU bcoz im getting this on my pc *"power surge detected during previous power on"*. I don't want to disable my mobo's anti-power surge settings

[@fett-]

thanks for the content, perfect video and audio quality, fr

[@RamenLlama]

No clue why it isn't working for me. I never have trouble installing things. I followed the mod page, and this video, to a T, but game crashes on launch every time without fail.