How to Install Electrical Box for Ceiling Light Fixture

[@longsnapper5381]

Nicely done, lady. Only one criticism, you need a Romex clamp style connector to pass the cable in to the metal box. Those sharp edges of the circle in the metal box don't play well wire the cable covering. Overall, very nice job. Every guy who has done this is admiring those small hands for this job.

[@loh1639]

Thanks,

[@rogeryanez8107]

What are the drawbacks of not using the Romex clamp?

[@longsnapper5381]

@@rogeryanez8107 None other than the sharp edge of the hole slicing through the protective insulating cover of the cable and the enclosed wires causing a short circuit to the box giving us a fire hazard as well as electrocution risk if the circuit breaker did not operate correctly.

[@1389Chopin]

Couldnt one just tapethe edges or something

[@longsnapper5381]

@@1389Chopin The connectors are less than $2 and are readily available at any home improvement store. When electricity is involved, let's just do it correctly, shall we?

[@ellsrustia6329]

Your presentation of installing a new electrical box for heavy lighting fixtures is much better than most You Tube videos I found. Thank you very much. - From Ontario, Canada.

[@maricurras55]

I have seen a couple of videos about changing fluorescent light fixture for another type and no one has mentioned that you could face this issue, so you did a magnificent job! 😊

[@goldstream5147]

OMG you saved the day! You are the only DIY which DOESN’T SKIP over this important step! Thank you

[@happycamper6352]

Your tutorial shows how you handled some unexpected issues. I appreciate that.

[@lilMariJah-rv4wy]

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[@loh1639]

Thank you so much for the great video. I have 2 ugly builder grade fixtures in the front bathroom of the house I bought 3 years ago. I immediately bought new fixtures, but there are no boxes in the wall holding up the fixtures that are there, and no studs to attach a box to. I have not know what to do and didn't know this type of box existed. I just subscribed, as I watched your first video on taking the fluorescent fixture down (my son has this in his kitchen). I then liked that video and looked to find this video to finish the project. I am so glad I did. Now I am able to get rid of those ugly fixtures in my bathroom as well as help him get rid of his ugly kitchen light. Thank you so much.🙂

[@jwaustinmunguy]

You need to secure the Romex wires where they pass into the metal box. You need a clamp designed for the knockout and cable. This could eventually chafe and cause a short. The fire investigators will identify the CODE VIOLATION. There is a simple fix, and you are good to go. Small hands are really useful.

[@KYKCreations]

thank you for the tip!

[@kounchhmar9490]

Thanks for the tip!

[@CoolGames89]

The second violation is having an open hole in the box

[@kc2738]

Nice job! Though, it is extremely important to use a proper Romex connector to secure the wire to the box.

[@KYKCreations]

Oh, the box came with plastic push in connectors, but I totally disregarded them because I didn't realize that was so important. Thank you for the advice!

[@CoolGames89]

Also you shouldn’t have open holes in the box because if some sparking were to occur to the wiring connection it will go through the hole and spark the insulation. That’s why it’s also important to use the correct romex connection

[@t.harrisonharrison574]

Excellent instructional video. Great job with clear instructions and video.

[@1389Chopin]

Awesome vid - i need to do exactly this - situation is the same too no access from ceiling

[@FixChick]

Nice job!! I was a little scared ypu were gonna scratch your counter other that awesome video. Gonna buy the barascope with your link. Thanks for sharing ❤

[@kimchee94112]

You could remove that knockout later although you could use a plug to close it up until it's needed. Could be NEC violation (110.12(A) ?) but who's going to see it unless the ceiling caught on fire providing your homeowner's insurance an excuse to denied the claim. Electrical metal plugs under $2. Also Romex need a NM clamp or plastic grommet.

[@CoolGames89]

I made a similar reply

[@Defiant__One]

This is such a great video!! Thank you for posting!

[@manaoharsam4211]

You explained very well.

[@Firestarter635]

You need to put a plastic grommet in the hole where the wires come in ,no need for a metal romex connector. And you need a knock out seal for the other hole. And don't forget to always ground metal boxes.

[@thehoffer]

Outstanding video. Thanks for posting this.

[@vinceaccardi5242]

Thanks!

[@KYKCreations]

Thank you so much, Vince!! 😊💕🤗

[@KenArmstrong-ot4cb]

shouldn't the wire going into the box be clamped down so no slack can go back up though that open hole?

[@JohnSmith-wx8ex]

You are a very impressive Asian handy lady. Great work !!

[@montamang837]

Just for light you could use led light directly to the ceiling that doesn’t need mounting box. This kind of box is needed actually for heavy light and fan

[@KYKCreations]

that's true. light weight light fixtures don't need this kind of box.

[@loh1639]

@@KYKCreations I'm glad you did it this way, so we could have the choice of hanging something with weight and know how to do it. Thanks

[@n33oh]

Great video and details!

[@sheep9944]

Thank you! ❤

[@joelandino364]

Great video - thank you very much.

[@billthestinker]

Great job and informative

[@joli78363]

Very great Mom! 👍 🎉

[@avflyguy]

Agree.. That looks exactly what I want to do... The only *mistake* you made was 1. punching out two knockout's in the box. The bigger more concerning one is lack of cable connector going into the box and running your wire through it a snug down. Without that cable clamp, you've not only violated every electric code anywhere, but you've have a situation of those *wires rubbing on the bare edges of the metal box creating a significant fire hazard* Fortunately, you can fix this relatively easy.

[@KYKCreations]

thanks for sharing this information!

[@wirefeed3419]

In general a well done installation unfortunately you missed the most important safety requirement by not installing the Romex pinch connector needed to secure the wire and protect it from the sharp metal edges of the hole you passed the wire through. The connector is cheap and needs to be used.

[@brettrobinson2379]

Great tutorial, thank you!

[@garryhg11]

The instructions should have shown a romex connector & you would have to cap/plug any open holes. Not sure why she opened 2 holes. Otherwise nice job

[@michaelsavich9348]

Nice job👍

[@listlesstoad]

how did you handle the mice?

[@KYKCreations]

I hired a pest extermination company. I didn't try to handle it myself. But all they did was put mice bait in lots of locations all over the house and came back to check on it, and there were no signs of mice. So, it looks like infestation happened months ago and the mice left when the food source was gone (i.e., the old residents who moved away and left the house completely empty over 6 months ago).

[@jessehanby5842]

I think you did a fantastic job! My only comment is about the rat poop in your attic, you may want to get that issue taken care of.

[@KYKCreations]

Yes, I did! I was belatedly grossed out later when I figured out what those little black things were! I couldn't figure out what they were at the time because I had never seen mouse poop like that in a house before. As silly as it may sound, I thought it was some type of construction debri in the ceiling.

[@barrywendelson]

@@KYKCreationsthere were mice living up there? Or was it old poop remaining from a previous mouse tenant

[@KYKCreations]

@@barrywendelson i'm not sure. The house was vacant for about 6 months when bought it. I got the house treated for mice at the same time i got it treated for termites professionally.

[@n33oh]

You inspired me to do this too!

[@cesarcacayan6916]

These are easy installTion boxes, try installing electrical boxes on electrical wiring in conduit, romex are easy to work on.

[@isidragarza1159]

You are amazing! Thank you!

[@justincooper1626]

thanks for this

[@1hinchey]

Well Done!

[@_.Dave._]

You need a knockout wire clamp so the edge of the knockout does cut the romex and start a fire.

[@MrSabunyc]

Amassing video

[@astang1072]

You MUST have a connector for the wire to go through the opening in the metal box! Fire risk if the sharp metal chafes through the casing.

[@KYKCreations]

Thanks for sharing this valuable information!

[@kathybelk1333]

Love it . women are truly capable

[@adrewdio2694]

DO NOT INSTALL POWER WIRES INTO AN ELECTRICAL BOX WITHOUT A CONNECTOR THAT WILL TIGHTEN ON ONE SIDE OF THE WIRE, THAT YOU WILL SCREW A NUT ONTO THE THREADED SIDE. Great presentation on the procedure though, to install the parts to hold inside the joist. I don't know the electrical code for your area, but in the US, it's a code violation since the fixture that has a short circuit would be energized if it's not properly grounded. Thanks for sharing. Also, if the wires are used to power a fan, vibration would cause rubbing and eventually, a short, then a fire could result. Do the job good so the next person will be ok. Also, don't use that to hang a fan since the rating is for a light fixture and it would cause a problem sooner or later.

[@KYKCreations]

Thanks for the information! The light fixture is properly grounded, and the box is appropriately rated for the weight. You are right about the being concerned about the vibration from a fan and that we will need to make sure the light box can sustain the weight of the fan.

[@adrewdio2694]

@@KYKCreations Proper grounding means the connector, called a "BX to box connecter", must be tightened to hold the wire on one side, with the threaded part used on the inside of the electrical box, with the nut that resembles a gear with cogs on it, that can be tightened with an old heavy slotted screw driver, which is used with a hammer, since there's little clearance, to tighten with a channel lock plyers. Also, ground wire must be attached to your light fixture and to the electrical box, as well as the wires feeding into your box if they're the shielded armor cable type or otherwise (Ground wire/ screw, must Be green colored, must be attached to the ground screw hole inside the bumped up part of your box. #12 wire is fine and wire must be in clockwise direction, when tightening around the screw, it must be tightened around the screw, then screw into the hole. Also, check the "This Old House" website, for the proper how to videos on this Regardless of weather you use rubber or metal shielded wire, it must be properly grounded Through the entire circuit from the circuit breaker, threw the wires, into your connection s, then to your fixture. If using armored cable, a small plastic sleeve(red color.) called an anti short bushing is used at the end of the wire, that fits around the three wires and is commonly held in place with the metal shielded wire, commonly found among the other wires of " white, black, red, green", etc., and is smaller and thinner then the other wires, used before the wire is put threw the BX to box connection. To be clear, the red anti short connection is put inside between the armored cable and wires, where the shielded part stops and the power, neutral, ground wires, go threw it, with the lip of the bushing seated on the sharp section of the armored cable. Any place not grounded is a place where heat can build up, resulting in fire, if the circuit breaker cannot disconnect your circuit. Thanks for your feedback nonetheless. In my years doing home repair, I've seen many mistakes by qualifying Electricians and I'm not licensed! I check codes often because they sometimes change from year to year, for various reasons. If home repairs are made, wire nuts, box connection nuts, can get loose from vibration, resulting in ungrounded equipment so it's better to have ground wires inside threw your entire circuit, to avoid these issues.

[@Elevendyeleven]

As soon as she pulled out that camera I was out, lol!

[@saboorsaboor704]

lots of mouse dropping in the ceiling

[@markpr73]

You need some D-Con!

[@KYKCreations]

you noticed! i didn't know what that was because i've never seen them before. i realized what they were only after i started seeing them everywhere else in the house as i started working on updating this rental. Anyway, the house got professionally treated and cleaned.

[@reddyuda]

@@KYKCreations Good, don't mess around with rodents. They are absolutely ruthless and will cause an insane amount of damage if you don't go nuclear on them

[@zanfasoabi7628]

FYI you have rodents

[@KYKCreations]

thanks. now i've learned signs of rodent problem.

[@tinycircle14]

This is good, but you have a rodent problem :/

[@jk-ml5fb]

A lot of rat poop

[@KYKCreations]

😬That was my first time ever seeing those, so I didn't even know what they were at first! Yep, it was pretty gross after I realized what they were... .

[@jk-ml5fb]

@KYKCreations I know because I had the same thing, I took a workshop vac and vac them up good.

[@KentRinker]

Two obvious code violations for no cable clamp and open hole in box. If you don't know what you are doing don't do it.

[@KYKCreations]

Thanks for the info on code violations. I'll have to remember that for next time when I install an electrical box.

[@jwaustinmunguy]

Go back and fix this installation. You must have clamps in each of the knockout holes. Never say "I'll do that next time".