How to install governor springs in your ppump. ( p-7100 )

[@Bradzuzu]

I so appreciate the fact that you've made all these vid's in the past , they are so helpful !!! Thank you Rob !!

[@williamkleedehn9803]

Thanks for that video! As you said in another video... the governor spring is one of the best places to start with upgrading. I did not look for big power as I need my truck for work as well but just the 3k springs made a world of a difference ... Thanks a ton!

[@decentgarage]

Great video rob! Going to be doing this on my truck this week 👍

[@CUTTERUPROB]

👍

[@twinturbo327]

First video I have seen with the “modified” screwdriver, smart! Another great video, you have the same Winnabago Vectra Motorhome in your yard as I do with a P-pump 12 valve!

[@CUTTERUPROB]

ya the screwdriver working good, the one in the yard is the next doors it is having the head liner replaced

[@larryblythe6822]

Once again, thank you thank you, your are excellent, keep up the content Sir!!!!

[@CUTTERUPROB]

thanks for watching

[@timothymroberts2949]

Great video Rob. Very informative

[@CUTTERUPROB]

thanks

[@ricardomartinez4898]

Awesome video. Thanks

[@CUTTERUPROB]

Thanks 🙏

[@spmachining1154]

Appreciate the videos! I have a stock 190hp industrial 12v p-pump swapped into my 89 Grand wagoneer backed by a ZF5 About to rip into it and start doing some of these mods. Am I in for a surprise because of the industrial pump vs dodge pump? I have heard the 190hp one pumps are based off the 160hp dodge. Any truth? Looking at #10 plate Afc mods, Valve springs 4K gsk And bumping the timing from 11* to 18* Your videos will be rolling the whole time in the garage while I am doing the work. Thank you again!

[@CUTTERUPROB]

thankd for watching , the parts your changing will be the same, just the guts of the pump are different

[@johnmaxx4818]

How I wish your shop was close to my house

[@CUTTERUPROB]

I get that a lot lol

[@johnmaxx4818]

@@CUTTERUPROB Is it possible to fish out that tappit cover with the motor out and not pull the p pump to put a tappitt gasket on

[@CUTTERUPROB]

I tried once. I couldn’t was just faster to pull the pump

[@hophawthorne269]

Great video was doing mine and I only have 2 springs in mine I did not have a baby spring I would like the 4k kit so do I put the baby spring that would be one more spring then I took out

[@CUTTERUPROB]

i would double check there should be a small spring in there, i honestly don't know what it would do with no small spring , how high does the engine rev ?

[@hophawthorne269]

It Rev about 2300 2400 rpm max

[@machinesnmetal]

Hi Mr. Rob, I replaced my stock springs with 3k springs, I measured the grove to cap and made sure I tightened (3 clicks it took) the keepers over the new springs, but things aren't just right. I have had to turn the idle up to 1000rpm in park to prevent truck from stalling when I put it in reverse or drive when cold, when hot it idles so high almost 1100 and races around parking lots it's almost dangerous. If I were to either remove a click or add a click which direction would you suggest to perhaps take a stab at being able to drop the idle a bit to make things nicer to drive and not stall when cold.. I have to give the pedal a tap to start at the moment as well, or it cranks for about 4 seconds and slowly gradually gets to a point of starting.

[@CUTTERUPROB]

What pump you working with ? I would add 2 clicks on each side

[@machinesnmetal]

@@CUTTERUPROB it's a p7100 on a 1996. I also did some upgrades at the same time as when I changed the governer springs. New transmission and little lower stall torque converter Colt stage 3 can Billet push rods Heavier valve springs Sxe61 turbo 100 plate Haley 5x.012 injectors 4" mbrp

[@CUTTERUPROB]

The lower stall will make it harder to idle. But try adjusting the springs

[@machinesnmetal]

@@CUTTERUPROB il do this Sunday, I'm considering going back to stock converter if mucking with the springs dosent produce the desired result.

[@machinesnmetal]

@@CUTTERUPROB thanks for the instruction. Will update.

[@brokeboygarage4152]

Hey Rob I know this has been 4 years ago but I need some help I have a 97 with the 180 pump I installed the springs without measuring first and it idles really really low like at 500 RPM in that it's sputters whenever you get around 2,600 RPM thanks in advance I don't know much about p pumps I'm more of a VE pump guy

[@thegoat1776]

3k,4k Which is better for long-term of the engine

[@rrc902]

Hello Rob great video doing 3k on my 94 soon and have one question, is there 1 shim per side or 2 per side, thanks

[@CUTTERUPROB]

depends on the pump. some have none , some 1 , some 2

[@zacmccrae]

Hey man i have a question, I just installed my 4k springs and I just noticed hitting the higher rpms my oil pressure drops to down low enough to worry me. Is that normal.. and this is the factory gauges I'm talking about. Thanks in advance for any info.

[@CUTTERUPROB]

Could just be the gauge. But I would doodle check that

[@zacmccrae]

So while driving the pressure is normal and climbs with rpms, it was only while in park. But I believe its the factory gauge, I'm adding a aftermarket oil pressure gauge so I know exactly what its doing. Thanks and love the channel btw!

[@jamesmarlar696]

If not previously measured how can it affect idle and do you tighten more or loosen

[@CUTTERUPROB]

if there two loose the idle will be lazy . like if you put truck in gear if auto and it stalls

[@shawnraasch7411]

how do i adjust the afc foot height for higher rpm? i did 4k springs and afterwards my truck ran away and went full fuel because i believe the governor arm got stuck on the foot at higher rpm

[@CUTTERUPROB]

Watch this video PPUMP AFC TUNING EXPLANIED & how to do mods kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZ7Gm3p9mdd7iM0

[@johnmaxx4818]

Hello I am pulling out my 97 5 9 12 valve basically to replace all the gaskets because it is leaking what else should I do I'm in there other than the KDP

[@CUTTERUPROB]

If it was me. I would do the timing case gasket if your pulling the engine out. A lot depends on how far your going into it

[@johnmaxx4818]

@@CUTTERUPROB I have a complete gasket kid trying to do everything I can except for tappet

[@johnmaxx4818]

Also I'm installing coolant bypass kit it would be a hell of a lot easier with the motor out

[@jaymack6341]

Do they sell springs for 3800 rpm Because I want higher rpm but am worried about harmonic distortion

[@CUTTERUPROB]

For a ppump it 3000 or 4000 but depending on how you set them lots of Time the 4000 will only go too 3700 ish

[@petrpnacek7452]

Hi, Rob. I have one question. I broke timing pin in my ppump can I fish out that piece ? Which way is the best way??? Thank you.

[@CUTTERUPROB]

You can fish it out. It’s not much fun. If you mark the housing the that plug goes into you can remove that witch hive you more room. Just make to put in back in the same spot

[@petrpnacek7452]

Ok, but that top bolt is round, should just notch it for flat screwdriver and untaught like regular screw. Or it is some rivet??? I don’t want to brake it.

[@CUTTERUPROB]

@@petrpnacek7452 it just a safety bolt, like you said a cut a notch in it

[@petrpnacek7452]

Thank you for your answer. I was yesterday lucky!!! I was cleaning the pump from outside and I turned pump here and there. I open that timing bolt and that plastic piece was waiting for me there. Yesterday was my lucky day. Anyway thank you.

[@garygeer7646]

Why not remove the outside spring? And what does it do?

[@CUTTERUPROB]

It’s the idle spring. They is a oring under them some times and you want it to stay in. So just easy to leave it in

[@garygeer7646]

@@CUTTERUPROB thanks

[@garygeer7646]

@CUTTERUPROB that could be the reason why my truck doesn't idle below 1200 rpms. No idle.

[@zaccole9266]

If not measured correctly can this cause a run away?

[@CUTTERUPROB]

I was told yes. But I have never seen it. They would have to be way off

[@jjdewind]

Hey Rob. In this video you said if you leave the small spring in, it’ll be 3000rpm. But on your other video about pump upgrades you said if you pull the springs out, you’ll have 4000rpm. Just a little confused

[@CUTTERUPROB]

If you have a 4K kit And your want 3k. Leave the stock small spring in the pump. Then in install the two bigger springs. If you want 4K then install the whole 4K kit.

[@jjdewind]

@@CUTTERUPROB ah okay thank you

[@petevanrooy9680]

What is the tool you used to measure the gap on the retainer plate ?

[@CUTTERUPROB]

just a pair of Verner calipers here is a link amzn.to/35jIKRV

[@larryford8633]

Why do you prefer 4000 springs instead of 3000 governor springs. And you sent me a message that I was a winner of something. End of message did not come out

[@CUTTERUPROB]

I prefer the 4K myself. Where did you get this said message?

[@baggerstuntsjordan731]

I attempted to replace and now it runs like shit

[@CUTTERUPROB]

what's it doing ?

[@baggerstuntsjordan731]

Just kidding it runs great now I was to tight on the sprong

[@baggerstuntsjordan731]

@@CUTTERUPROB only thing is the crank sensor is freakin sparking while it is running and sputters when cold when it’s revved up but heard that’s normal? Besides that it runs great now 4K springs after warmed up

[@CUTTERUPROB]

make sure the engine is grounded well and check the gap on the sensor it should be .050 and sounds like your timing is on the low side,

[@baggerstuntsjordan731]

@@CUTTERUPROB why would it be sparking?

[@stevenbean9706]

cummins much like detroit diesel could have made this a zillion times easier they make simple stuff overly complicated all the time

[@wagnerhehrke2622]

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