How to Install Sun Sail Shades and Decomposed Granite! Plus Price BreakDown! PART 4

[@geedubb2005]

Great job! You’ll do great. Don’t get discouraged when things don’t work out as planned. That’s just part of life. Don’t be too hard on yourself. I admire you for having the guts to start your own business. Just remember, the only people that didn’t ever make a mistake, never did a darn thing. This job was awesome and I’d say he got a good deal.

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Appreciate it thanks for the advice 👍💯

[@johnniedk.6087]

3rd logo looks the best...simple and to the point.

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Appreciate the input 👍

[@Jam3z27]

I agree!

[@Robbievigil]

All these guys with no KZbin channel, and no work trying to tell this guy how to run his business. He's just starting his own work and has a job already so he's gonna make mistakes bidding. If you're an expert start a channel, write a book then criticize.

[@FullSendPrecision]

"Those without dirty hands, are wrong"

[@hueroski]

what guys?

[@ThePremiumChicken]

People like you are the salt of the Earth. Please keep up the good work!

[@mateocastro8122]

I like the third one it looks like the most professional of all three. I would also choose the 2nd logo as my 2nd favorite

[@SiimSaare]

2nd logo is the best of three and thanks for the prices now can everybody learn with you about the concrete jobs

[@10agapeka18]

Looks great! With our Landscape company we would have charged about $5000 for the putting green, $3000 for the concrete and $2000 for the soil and sod at least. Total job would have probably worked out to $15,000 after calculating overhead and margins. With a larger company though, you have higher overhead you have to factor in as well. When I first started with a small pickup truck we could charge less and make more margins because we were smaller.

[@reasonable1]

Super interesting to see some "behind the scenes" like your bid and profit calculation! Really adds another level to this already great channel. Good job, Tim.

[@MikeHarris1984]

Jumped on this video before KZbin even gave me the notification! Second Logo FTW.

[@politicalpartyagnostic268]

You work very hard and EARN every dollar you make!!! Personally I think you are worth more than you’re asking. This project turned out beautiful!!!

[@arkansas1336]

@Fact Based..I agree figure costs and labor separate, then add the two together and then a percentage to the total of materials and labor to achieve a lump sum fee!

[@odin-eliottodinson7330]

Nice work on that backyard. I like second logo best. Keep up the good work.

[@edstuff1198]

You did a beautiful job, you will make your dad proud of you. For a young guy, you are definitely on the rigfht track. Keep up the good work. I like the 2nd logo the best.

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Ty means alot

[@ronaldpike4630]

That price breakdown was very helpful!

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Awesome

[@paulobrien8443]

Third, It's not too "busy". Also, It's very clean and gets the point across.... If you know what I mean.

[@jeftex8875]

Props to whoever laid out the backyard ! #2 on the logo. Your name pops out more. Odell name kinda gets lost in all the grahics on 1&3 . Especially somebody driving by trying to read a yard sign. Just my opinion

[@rlopez2626]

Damn, I saved a lot of money over the years doing the work myself. 2nd logo stands out great!

[@johnlyn1]

Of course you can save money doing it yourself, although if you don't own the tools and equipment needed then you'll have to buy all that to do the job yourself. Depending on the tools and equipment needed it could cost you more to do it yourself unless you will have a lot of future use for those tools and equipment. If not then it may not be feasible to do it yourself and cheaper to pay to have it done. Most people don't have the know how, don't want to have the know how and have no desire to try and do it themselves.

[@rlopez2626]

@Brosephsride Why not?

[@rlopez2626]

@@johnlyn1 You buy tools used. Use common sense. Then resell those tools.

[@eduardodedios8213]

Great job guys, definitely love this break down of your work but you’re too honest or too brave for showing this, thanks again and wish you the best!!!

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Haha no problem and ty

[@julienlopez7177]

Really appreciate you breaking down the prices. The job looked awesome, keep up the good work.

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

TY will do

[@nathansilver9190]

Second logo. Great job on your project, best of luck to you in your future endeavors. I'm just now starting my own business, I'm excited.....but nervous at the same time.

[@drpepppernoice1167]

You guys are from Orange County so the third logo kinda references that as well OC #3 plus since it’s going to be on T-shirts the smaller prints tend to flake of when you wash them.

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Yeah we do like that one too

[@gsettlemyre]

Like the final project, and the cost break down. For the logo, I like #2 as it is, number 1 would stand out more if you remove the “half circle and the crown” and make complete concrete slightly bigger.

[@AdamWellborn]

Love the turbo speed work! I believe you did the job right!

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

ty

[@Artisan322]

A little tip for shade sails is to use ratchet straps to tighten the shade sail then tie it off.

[@StevesTrains]

Nice looking yard! Good job guys.

[@peyotecody]

do I have to use DG Binder/stabilizer in my front yard where there will be no foot traffic? Long Beach,CA

[@claude2230]

I liked this video. Thank you for sharing this You guys work very hard for your money. This project turned out great. Perfect.

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Appreciate that. TY

[@SerxRox]

Wow, concrete in spain is so expensive then... I'd hire you eyes closed if you give me that estimate 😅 For half of the work you did there I got charged more in my backyard rework. I felt lucky at that moment cuz other contractors wanted more, but seeing this... Just want to cry 🤣 2nd logo looks great

[@timothykoonce1338]

The 2nd is the best in my opinion

[@gildoubrava5998]

Great video! You will get your profit figured out in time or already have by now. Your work will sale it self from word of mouth. Great video.

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

TY

[@fintan3563]

Good job. Glad you are branching out into your own business. I like the breakdown. BTW Don’t feel like you have to tell us how much you make for yourself - dollar amount. It’s none of our business. I’m just glad to see you making it on your own. 😀

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Thank you!

[@johnlyn1]

You didn't actually profit $4,000. You have to take out for your labor then whatever is left over is the actual profit. Your labor isn't free. The company itself needs to make a profit. If you take all the money for yourself then the company made zero and broke even. Should figure in at least 20% profit for the company after paying yourself. So if the total bid for the job is $8,250 you allow for 20% of that for profit for the company, which would be $1,650. That would leave $2,350 for yourself and your partner, leaving you each with $1,175. $1,175 for you, $1,175 for your partner, and $2,350 profit for the company. Remember, whatever you pay yourself for your labor is not profit. That is cost. If you didn't do the labor yourself you would have to pay someone else to do it. Labor is cost and you have to deduct your labor as a cost and whatever is left after paying for all material, expenses and your labor, is the profit.

[@donnytucker]

This was a side project and not a company job I believe.

[@johnlyn1]

@@donnytucker Nope. The company name is Odell Complete Landscape which he said is his own company and has his own business license. Its at the top of the estimate he shows and he talked about this in the video.

[@donnytucker]

@@johnlyn1 It's his dad company. His dad is david.

[@rockcrazedanimal]

Not necessarily. Some types of labor costs are included in the COGS. Who knows, he may have included his labor costs in the COGS. It would be a bit presumptuous if we assumed all of the numbers when we are not actually seeing the books. He may not have given us all of the details

[@johnlyn1]

@@donnytucker No, his dad's company is Odell Complete Concrete. His company is Odell Complete Landscape.

[@michaelnelson226]

Good job Tim, Sam hows that finger? I like logo #1

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

It's growing back 😂

[@RHEC1776]

One business owner to another find better suppliers. Your over head is high. But you'll learn over time. It took me a good two years to find out how to work the numbers around to make a nice profile and still keep the quality. Your dad taught you well. Hope everything works out for you keep up the amazing work

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

TY and yes still learning and adapting

[@bobbrown1603]

Logo No.1 suits your business the best in my opinion. Simple and straightforward with the trowels.No. 2 suggests overall homebuilding such as a General Contractor might use- not the case with OdellCC. No. 3 is confusing... not sure what the design relates to in terms of the type of work you do.

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

yeah i can see that! good input

[@qazsedcftgbhujmkolp4401]

I feel like the trowels in the first and second logos look like arrows. I realized that it was a trowel only when I saw the third logo.

[@erikhartwig6366]

very cool video! That back wire at 3:09 was the irrigation line then?

[@drumtwo4seven]

How its done... right here AGAIN 👍

[@kev5782]

thanks for the breakdown, very helpful. do more! logo 2 for sure

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Ty

[@trevordavis1854]

Thank you very much for this info!!! I love watching everything on this channel. I've been self employed for 2 years, been counting down to this 4th video since you mentioned it. Im just kinda winging it with my prices.

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Well have you been doing good with profits?

[@trevordavis1854]

I make decent profit for all of my residential fencing jobs but half of the other jobs end up kicking me in the butt. It's getting better tho. It's tough finding a balance between what you think you're worth, versus what people want to pay. Especially when there are a bunch of other competitors and big crews

[@arkansas1336]

@@trevordavis1854..Price the jobs for what you're worth along with costs, overhead and profit. If customer doesn't like it , move on to the next project (remember you can't do all of them)!

[@xtra3975]

JOB WELL DONE! Keep it up. 2nd logo is clean

[@apdesigndisenandotuhogar1225]

Hi Tim, second logo looks good On my experience your first jobs that’s where you learn, after a few years you will be doing better profits!

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Yeah I agree, still have plenty to learn

[@jimsmoter4510]

I plan on using DG in my back yard around the fire pit and Hammock swing . What is a good thickness to go with for the DG in a fairly high traffic area ? Great video..thanks

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

i would go with atleast 4-6 inches for high traffic

[@jimsmoter4510]

Odell Complete Concrete Gotcha thanks

[@RobertBarnard2012]

2nd logo. Loved this presentation

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

TY

[@CarsSupercars]

Nice honest pricing...second.

[@erikhartwig6366]

So the concrete pour and sod cost $4,650, or you wanted $4,650 down but you charged $3,300? How much concrete did you use on the bike path?

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

No I only got 825 down

[@kaycox5555]

Terrific job, great pricing, and thanks for costs...

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Your welcome 👍

[@gordon9001]

Love the videos. The first design.

[@Frankie_M.]

Go with the second logo 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼✌🏼

[@kettlekorn471]

I think you have more a bit more overhead than you mentioned, with the cost of gas and other vehicle expenses, as well as licensing, bonding/insurance, business permit, taxes, factored in, etc... But you deserve the money that you make. And kudos for explaining the costs/profit to us. I like #3 logo the best. I don't like the crown on the first one, the house design makes the logo appear "lengthy" on the second, and the third logo is relatively compact and doesn't have too much going on to distract.

[@qazsedcftgbhujmkolp4401]

I like the second one, but I think the third looks more professional, so I would choose the third. On both the second and third, I don’t like how they say ODELL COMPLETE in big letters, then concrete in a smaller font underneath. When I look at it, I just see ODELL COMPLETE and I’m not sure what that means. But if you are going to use the same logo for your landscaping company, you could change “concrete” at the bottom of the logo to “landscape” and that would work. If you are planning multiple Odell Complete businesses, I think you should leave it as is.

[@thotakurask]

Hi great work. How did you anchor to Alumawood pergola?

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Crews

[@thotakurask]

@@OdellCompleteConcrete sheet metal screws? Do you have a backing inside the beams? Wondering if the screws can sustain the pull from shade sail. Thanks

[@TahirChaudhryartist]

this was such a good video, nice work. 2nd logo design.

[@darrynruzicka2883]

I would lean towards the second but I would include a cement truck.

[@GLW675]

Hope they went with 3rd but all looked really good

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Me too Ty

[@loug1612]

Second logo👍I like your work 👍🍻

[@TheCertifiedNeto]

how hard was it to get your landscape license? also how long was the process? thanks in advance, love your work

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

wasnt to bad just studied hard for about 3 months than took my test, i actually got my GC license

[@4mrmoj]

Nice work man!

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Thanks for the visit

[@simion33]

3rd, but with the silver parts around "Odell Complete Concrete" in gold

[@arkansas1336]

I have no experience with ' sun sail shades'. Good information on the 'slope angle'. Your scope of work was quite variable, sometimes causing correct pricing hard to achieve...but you're doing a fine job! DON'T GIVE AWAY TRADE SECRETS!!! The project's 'end results' was impressive, well done! My choice on the logos: #1 is first...I like the letters' font. #2 is second....non-distinctive as to 'concrete flat work' #3 DO NOT USE..."too busy!"....hard to comprehend... (as seen through "an old fart's eyes"....lol). Overall this one is very unique, just needs more critique given to it, which I offer as follows: >>>>> trowels' blade needs narrowing (not much) and position pointing at '2 o'clock as the trowel is 'breaking out to do future work', redefine inner circle of the big 'O'..existing inner circle is indistinguishable, place "ODELL" on line by itself and stretch it's length with font of first logo, and add 'COMPLETE CONCRETE' on it's own line under the 'stretched word' ODELL and use 'gold lines' under ODELL and COMPLETE CONCRETE

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Appreciate the detailed input on the logos 👍

[@kevinbaird7277]

3rd look the best..Great video series.

[@ryanc1676]

The sun hats killing me on the overcast day 😂😂😂😂. Forgot they burn easy

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

For sure

[@vetsch82]

Good work! 2nd logo for sure!

[@pryme2013]

Third, because the OC plays off your name and orange county. If you were not in OC I'd say 2nd though.

[@michaelp4034]

The 2nd Logo is the best out of the 3 choices.

[@fee3818]

Respect fot the lost fingernail. That deserves a badge

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Haha yeah it does

[@douglastrujillo9152]

Great job!

[@rickyrickharris4908]

Do you know what yall charged

[@Robbievigil]

Also second logo is my favorite.

[@mattiefattie3895]

What's in the box!?

[@midorigreene2189]

I like the third logo best. Maybe put three comments saying first, second, third and people can like whichever one to help total the votes.

[@carlosfigueroa9547]

Do you need a permit to install sail shade?

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

If it's over 120 sq.ft

[@bettyescookingchannel]

This is a great video.

[@jameszukowski6708]

Keep them coming. And second logo is my choice.

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Will do 👍

[@fintan3563]

Hard worker, that’s for sure!

[@laneeric]

Never cover the base of those 4x4 posts with dirt. Hopefully you sloped the top away from the post with concrete. A small Sail Shade doesn't need the lean yo incorporated, and it makes it difficult to walk around it.

[@elainebusch9382]

I like the second...with the house...sends the message that you work on properties and businesses….others are beautiful but too graphic to easily identify meaning of logo...good video! and great job on this project thanks.

[@beesybee8921]

First one looks better then other ones

[@galedelatorre366]

I like the 3rd one but they are all nice.

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

T

[@michaelibarra2947]

Ilike the third, only because I think its more proffesional.

[@michaelibarra2947]

all look great tho

[@clarencek3658]

So much in such a small backyard lol .. this client needs 3x times the backyard for all this stuff lol

[@v.t.1646]

Gr8 vid, #2 logo!

[@IgnisMan]

Great Work 👍 for my opinion 2. Logo 😎

[@LordOfHoboes]

Third logo, keep it clean and professional, the trowels coming out at 45 degree angles on the other two make it look like you're advertising for a casino.

[@markchirillo5083]

what wrong with the old one?I like that one better than these 3.

[@johneggleston5209]

I think no.2 logo is the best

[@aminlover9]

i think second logo looks good

[@MrJohny4U]

Second (2nd) logo ftw !!! 😀

[@trevordavis1854]

I can't pick between first and second logo

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Yeah we are having trouble choosing too

[@aarongrabowski5620]

Are you licenced or do you use your fathers licence #

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

I have my own license

[@matthewmarsh9760]

2nd, people trust you with their homes.

[@fee3818]

All three logos are cool

[@germenjoyce253]

3rd logo seems to be best

[@bobrub]

#2 is my choice

[@kennethforbin5604]

what size is the sun shade sail

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

10 x 12

[@arrowfire]

Go with either of the first logo's

[@rightdudehere1352]

2nd logo looks best.

[@sydneyshinshi]

Cheap mate and good result. 3rd logo is the one.

[@OdellCompleteConcrete]

Yeah got to work on my pricing still 😂

[@sydneyshinshi]

@@OdellCompleteConcrete I meant cheap for here in Australia. Maybe on the money there. Here you are lucky to get trades for less than 500 a day at the moment. I know general carpenters on $70/hr

[@brandonwinter8038]

I vote on 3rd

[@JamieAubrey]

Logo #2 is sweet

[@jonathanruiz1129]

The second logo

[@cntslesfabrication]

I would say 2nd logo