How to Install Tuning Plates on an Offset Smoker

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Mad Scientist BBQ

Mad Scientist BBQ

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@CHICOSTIC
@CHICOSTIC 7 жыл бұрын
WHERE DID YOU GET THEM??
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
I called them. They have a number on their website. You have to call Old Country BBQ Pits and order direct. 956-286-6389
@silvermediastudio
@silvermediastudio 6 жыл бұрын
They're strips of steel. Just call up a local welding/fabrication shop, give them the dimensions, and they can cut you a few on the sheer for cheap. Also, likely all that was needed was one or two plates at the opening and another two in the middle. While "doneness" is one measure, flipping the biscuits to see how dark the bottoms are is how you compare grate surface temperature, which is really what you're after here.
@dannystrunc5662
@dannystrunc5662 5 жыл бұрын
What are the dimensions?
@dontblameme6328
@dontblameme6328 5 жыл бұрын
Danny Strunc It doesn't matter.
@tankertim
@tankertim 5 жыл бұрын
Did you ever figure out, or do a video on, how the tuning worked on long cooks? Were they worth the investment in the long run?
@PlanktoniusRex
@PlanktoniusRex 3 ай бұрын
I took the opposite approach. I made no mods other than to add a water bath pan in the middle of the smoker under the grate and sitting in the bottom of the smoker. Got the temp up to 250 on the attached analog lid thermometer and held it there for 3 hours. Measured the grate temps (1" up) of 4 zones from firebox side to the exhaust stack during that time. Extrapolated these 4 zone temps for 225 and 300 degrees analog so now I have a chart for three temps and 4 zones. I use the characteristics of each zone to know what to cook where and for how long. Potatoes and onions in foil in zone 1, brisket/pork butt/ribs in zones 2 and 3, beans and veggies in zone 4. This way I can cook as the smoker was designed and consider the zone differentials a feature and not a foe. This has worked for over 2 decades for me but bear in mind that I don't cook 6 briskets at one time. Also, remember that every large piece of meat you add on the grill will change the way heat and air flow in your smoker. I used a large chunk of oak during these tests to mimic a piece of meat.
@joshuahoward7567
@joshuahoward7567 2 жыл бұрын
I love when you get all scientistic. Seriously that one of the reasons i watch you instead of or more than any other bbq channel. #2 would be video quality #1 the voices and dad jokes by a landslide
@jasongoins8075
@jasongoins8075 3 жыл бұрын
Jeremy, I can’t count the hours of sleep I’ve lost because I didn’t know how those biscuit containers popped open on their own, honestly I thought it was witchcraft, so thank you, you truly are a scientist! 😉
@bodeine454
@bodeine454 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@stevesyncox9893
@stevesyncox9893 2 жыл бұрын
More of a “ScienTWIST”........
@ijuggle42
@ijuggle42 3 жыл бұрын
That was the mst useful info I have seen lately on operating an offset smoker. Thanks!
@jlp7184
@jlp7184 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great concept for cooking a lot of meat for big crowds. Even temps throughout the smoker can make your job easier vs managing all the variants.
@kstailey56
@kstailey56 5 жыл бұрын
I watched this before from a I love Biscuits point of view - This time I watched it from a Heat vs. Physics point of view and I have concluded that the reason your Smoker is at its highest temperature in the middle is simple physics - 1. AIR FLOW - By opening both ends wide open, yes you create the most air flow and you tested each end with your digital gauges - Yes, they were close - Of course as No. 2 will explain. 2. Heat Rises - With the airflow pretty much at maximum once 'energy flow' is removed from the equation, your heat rises, air flow starts to reduce significantly at or near the middle and the heat then is mostly generated at that point. Then what energy flow is left pushes the air / heat to the smoke stack at the end. 3- The Good part - SOLUTION - Place maybe three of your tuning plates 1 inch or so apart in the middle of your cooking chamber - 1 in the center, and one on either side (This is what I did on mine with the exact same issue). The result should be that the cooking temp is now uniform across the entire chamber - I checked mine at six different points three high, 3 low, two at each end and two in the middle. The result was that every spot was within 2 degrees of the other - I thought the upper three, (located maybe 2 inches from the top of the lid / hinge area), would be a good bit higher - When I removed the tuning plates, that was indeed the case - the middle upper was a hot 328 degrees- left and right upper a bit lower at 320 - at cooking level , about 1 inch above the Grates - the temp in the middle matched the upper middle - The temp on each lower end on the other hand were 20 degrees cooler, on each end - I agree with you about the air flow - it needs to be open - by placing the tuning plates in the center out to each end leaving an opening at the fire box end and smoke stack end seems to have evened out the heat everywhere - I tested this on my next set of ribs - I cooked 6 Racks, all the same size within a few oz. and each one did amazing - even cooking from one end thru the middle to the other end. Try it if you haven't already.
@Todd-tz9qq
@Todd-tz9qq 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Stailey Just curious if you’re still running your pit in this configuration. If so, how many plates are you using? Do you have a Old Country Brazos like the one Jeremy has in this video? I have a Brazos and I’m having difficulties with even temps. Thanks
@lynndollar1013
@lynndollar1013 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a Brazos ? The Brazos has a baffle that restricts air flow, IMO, quite a bit. I have a Brazos and I can move the hot spot from one end to the other, by how far I open the firebox door. Half to wide open increases the air flow and pushes heat to the stack end. Close the door, adjust the damper to half open, and the FB end heats up. I think the air flow restriction creates a small Venturi effect and the air flow speeds up.
@tremaynemyles8276
@tremaynemyles8276 3 жыл бұрын
@@lynndollar1013 have you figured out a solution to get even temps?
@lynndollar1013
@lynndollar1013 3 жыл бұрын
@@tremaynemyles8276 Not really, but I'm cooking with the door closed and damper 1/2 to fully open. I've cut down the air flow. And I only use 2/3 of cooking grate, the 1/3 on the FB end I don't bother with. I've played around with tuning plate configuration but not found anything I really like. I don't think even temps are really necessary for good barbecue unless you're loading it up to the hilt, which I never do. My recommendation is buy a bunch of cheap biscuits at Walmart , locate some cheap wood, and do biscuit tests with diff configs. Try to eliminate as many variables as possible, like cook temp and time of the biscuits. Move the plates around, use different damper / door settings.
@tremaynemyles8276
@tremaynemyles8276 3 жыл бұрын
@@lynndollar1013 lol might just go no tuning plates. Is that kind of what you do now or do you still use them?
@The72Rabbit
@The72Rabbit 5 жыл бұрын
Yoder ... This is one of my top 5 BBQ videos. Extremely important to know your equipment and this is a perfect example.
@DWproductions07
@DWproductions07 7 жыл бұрын
The conundrum created by even cooking is that a brisket actually craves uneven cooking. The flat is so lean that having in a cool spot is saving it from becoming chalk while you finish the point. I've noticed in my Kamado Joe it is always much too even heat for a brisket but my pecos can crank out killer brisket every time. There are other factors here as well (like the onslaught of smoke created by an offset vs a ceramic) but the biggest thing for me with brisket is using the uneven heat of my offset to my advantage.
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
That's very interesting. I have often had a more difficult time getting the flat up to temp on my offset when I keep the point toward the fire. It probably varies a lot from one cooker to another.
@knale22
@knale22 7 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate you sharing your tips and tricks. I recently inherited and offset smoker from my dad and your video is definetly helpful with me just getting in to smoking.
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Just keep cooking and you will figure it out.
@dneck
@dneck 6 жыл бұрын
Got 1 minute in, saw the title of channel and what you're doing to measure stuff on the smoker and instantly subscribed. Loving the channel already!
@Steve007362436
@Steve007362436 6 жыл бұрын
These Old County BBQ smokers are Top Heat Smokers, the heat goes to the top then pulled down across the cooking grate, not a design requiring tuning plates. This smoker is designed perfectly for me, it just needs to be built out of 1/4" steel to hold temps longer and last a lifetime.
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 6 жыл бұрын
Steve007362436 I agree with you. After using the plates for a while I pulled them out and like the results better with no plates at all.
@chrisbrown3907
@chrisbrown3907 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining (and showing) what the tuning plates are and how to use them. Great info really appreciate it.
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
Glad to help.
@douglasgroom6317
@douglasgroom6317 3 жыл бұрын
@@MadScientistBBQ where did you buy the tuning plates from? I am picking up this grill tomorrow thanks for the great video!!
@beardsandbraid3189
@beardsandbraid3189 3 жыл бұрын
I see this is an old video, and I'm sure you've made these realizations already, but I've noticed that more fuel is needed with tuning plates. While it is kind of a pain to learn, I did notice that while putting more metal in the smoker causes it longer to heat up, it also helps it maintain more even Temps when I add wood and leave the firebox door open to ignite new wood.
@user-neo71665
@user-neo71665 Жыл бұрын
Not sure about your pit but on this one tuning plates are a bandaid. The problem with this pit is the stack is way too short and not drafting like it is supposed to. It all really depends on the elevation but if I had to guess from building pits tht thing needs about 1.5 to 2 feet more stack on it.
@kathyhenderson6109
@kathyhenderson6109 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video!! I love experiments!! Can't wait to see a brisket with the tuning plates.
@SteenSmokeHouse
@SteenSmokeHouse 6 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same big pit, love it! I bought a large tuning plate I ultimately removed because I found I like having different temp zones. Very well done Jeremy! Big thumbs up my friend!
@rupman27isback
@rupman27isback Жыл бұрын
but the middle being overly hot didn't burn a brisket?
@twrecks9119
@twrecks9119 2 жыл бұрын
You sound just like cowboy cook Kent Rollins when you were opening the biscuits. I don't know if that was your intent, but it was spot on.
@tyl4045
@tyl4045 3 жыл бұрын
@11:00 he just geeked out out on some biscuits, I love it! It's cool to hear that stuff about an every day biscuit 😆
@timothygrimston5536
@timothygrimston5536 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, my son just brought me a similar smoker for Christmas and had my first try at using it this weekend and hit the heat differential issue. This video really explained the problem so will be onto it this coming weekend when I try cooking beef cheeks - happy new year from Perth Australia
@hackptui
@hackptui 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, this should have 10 times the views it has. Thanks!
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
haha Thanks!
@paulprattini6446
@paulprattini6446 4 жыл бұрын
Good video with very useful info. I like the accents. You should inject fun and humor in all your videos. Thanks for sharing!!
@jayilla28
@jayilla28 2 жыл бұрын
I had no clue the plates worked that well, Thanks for the video.
@walterbailey8002
@walterbailey8002 7 жыл бұрын
I like how you go from "the molecules and energy" to "I guess this is cardboard".
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
Walter Bailey 👍🏻
@TicklerDude
@TicklerDude 6 жыл бұрын
E=MC x 2
@spearfish25
@spearfish25 5 жыл бұрын
It was probably just the dough rising that popped it. Not thermal expansion.
@luskvideoproductions869
@luskvideoproductions869 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for this primer on heat mgmt as well, I have NEVER really paid attention to the fuel part of using an offset smoker...and I thought I didn't over stuff the fire box (and I seen some folks put 3 or 4 damn mini-logs), I usually put 2 mini logs, but now...I'm thinking I need to cut back to just one log at a time, because my issue is that I constantly have to choke the fire down, and run into the usual problems with air flow. Great vid!
@ALCAM001
@ALCAM001 Жыл бұрын
Great video, ive got an offset smoker that ive never used the tuning plates that it come with, i steuggled with the smoker running too hot, this could drop the temp and take my frustrations away. I look forward to trying it out this weekend. Cheers mate 👍
@matthewmoore856
@matthewmoore856 7 жыл бұрын
Oh man I did this, this past weekend! Works great. I used 5 - 3" wide x 13.5 Long x 3/16 thick . Smoker was running 50 degrees different from the left to the right side . After installed the buffer plates it was running 2 degrees!
@matthewmoore856
@matthewmoore856 7 жыл бұрын
I seasoned the buffer plates in my gas grill before the real cook.
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
Nice! I'm glad it worked out! Did you have any trouble keeping temperature and airflow up?
@matthewmoore856
@matthewmoore856 7 жыл бұрын
No the only thing that affected the air flow was the large brisket I put in there. lol . I have a homemade smoker based off an 18" Horizon Offset Smoker design. It's 1/4 thick. The smoke stack is about 4 inches off the grate. I bought it from a guy a few weeks ago. The only thing I do not like is where the firebox attaches to the cooking chamber. The port in to the cooking chamber is about 3/4 ways up on the firebox, and that leaves like a 4 inch pocket at the top of the firebox that traps the heat and affects the air flow directly into the cooking chamber. I thought about cutting out but wanted to get a few smokes on it before I start cutting. Brisket turned out excellent. So I'll wait on chopping it just yet.
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
Great! I have no expertise when it comes to cutting, welding, etc. You should post a video about the modifications if you ever do it. If you do, send me a link.
@batman6381
@batman6381 7 жыл бұрын
I love your approach to these videos. Very thorough and Well done! Subscribed!
@karlpeterson7299
@karlpeterson7299 3 жыл бұрын
I hate to be "that guy", but the biscuit cans popped not because the heat caused molecular expansion (a-la the Ideal Gas Law), but rather because the increase in temperature woke up the yeast. The yeast then consumed the sugars in the dough and produced carbon dioxide, which caused the dough to rise and pop the canister.
@BruceMusto
@BruceMusto 2 жыл бұрын
I'll bet you don't really hate being "that guy".
@stevesyncox9893
@stevesyncox9893 2 жыл бұрын
@@BruceMusto BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
@geraldwatford2721
@geraldwatford2721 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Karl- I agree. Hopefully others who would follow an amazing intelligent cook with “scientist” in his moniker would appreciate some real knowledge as well. Cheers!
@JoeHidalgo89
@JoeHidalgo89 Жыл бұрын
Biscuits don’t contain yeast. Neither do canned ones.
@progers5019
@progers5019 7 жыл бұрын
Nice presentation Jeremy. My offset has the large one piece of steel with holes drilled into it. small holes next to firebox, then they gradually get larger as it moves away from the firebox. Then it has an 45 degree angled flange from the plate up to the top of the opening between the firebox and smoke body to force the hot air and smoke down the line under the plate and up through the holes. The plate only goes 3/4 way down the length of the 36 inch long smoke cooking body. Seems to do ok. Haven't tested it. There is a thermometer about 10 inches from each end on top of the lid. They are usually about 10 degrees different. Tks-Phil in Florence
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Phil! The one-piece diffuser plates are nice because the installation is easy and it takes care of itself. The downside is that you can't really adjust it. It might be worth testing, because I was really surprised at the first test I did. I was tricked because the temp at either end was about the same, but it was way hotter in the middle. Also, the diffuser plate may have been the reason why your original exhaust wasn't drawing enough smoke through the cooker. It might be worth it to try out some different configurations. Are you liking your offset or the WSM more for most cooks?
@progers5019
@progers5019 7 жыл бұрын
Mad Scientist BBQ I've been cooking on the WSM lately and haven't been using the offset. The WSM is just so easy to use and not having to tend fire. I'm doing a cook Sunday for Father's Day of butts and ribs and plan on going back to the locomotive, I mean offset. The big pipe really does make it easy to get higher temps faster and maintain them and using much less wood. Lot of variables to decide which smoker to use e.g. how much meat, how much time you have to tend fire, and weather. Cooler days I love spendimg all day around the cook. Hot days (97 here yesterday) set it and forget it type day.
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
Totally makes sense. I think the only thing more convenient than a WSM would be a nice pellet cooker. But on cool days i thoroughly enjoy sitting outside, watching the fire, smelling the meat, drinking sweet tea and listening to music.
@progers5019
@progers5019 7 жыл бұрын
Mad Scientist BBQ you got it pardner. funny we are talking from opposite sides of the country. Have a great weekend Mr. Yoder. Just think, your smoker could've had your name on it. lol
@JeffMartinez648
@JeffMartinez648 6 жыл бұрын
Great back & forth & wealth of information with you guys, Thank you guys.
@thriftshop2609
@thriftshop2609 4 жыл бұрын
Good job, would I bother doing this in my smoker, no, but you get a gold star for your effort.
@foosblood24
@foosblood24 2 жыл бұрын
A cheaper alternative to Tumbleweeds fire starter is the old Doritos kindling hack. I keep a bag at my station and one "Party Size" bag will light maybe 50 chimneys for only $4.00
@uncledickie
@uncledickie 6 жыл бұрын
Being a complete Newbie to bbq I was very curious to how tuning plates worked. Great informative video!
@frankclark1663
@frankclark1663 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting and informative video as always Mad Scientist BBQ!!
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support!
@waynegranzin3824
@waynegranzin3824 3 жыл бұрын
i notice that you changed the seals on your brazos. originally you had the rope /felt style. but now it looks like you're using the silicone. curious as to why you changed?
@PulverizerA
@PulverizerA 3 жыл бұрын
Crank up the playback speed to 2x on all this guy's videos.
@wiggytoyou
@wiggytoyou 5 жыл бұрын
Jeremy... I know this is an old video and maybe someone has said this before, but try arranging the firestarters before you put the chimney on them. Much easier. Loved your video! Wigg
@kjrchannel1480
@kjrchannel1480 6 жыл бұрын
When I saw that down angled heat shield near the firebox I knew why it was cooler there. It not only shields from direct heat, it also channels the initial heat down and across the bottom, until it rises near the middle. The center has a more direct and less obstructed heat path as well. If it wasn't there the firebox would have cremated the biscuits closer to it. This may be old news to some.
@jedimann7468
@jedimann7468 5 жыл бұрын
good catch, I thought I saw it but wasnt paying attention and had to go back and look.
@lynndollar1013
@lynndollar1013 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the Brazos has a baffle that restricts air flow. If air flow is increased, it will pull direct heat into the cook chamber and bottom burn meats. I own a Brazos. I'm not really concerned with end-to-end being even as I cook on the stack half of the grate. The only way to even it , is to restrict air flow with the damper on the firebox door. I've been advised to cut out the baffle and add an extension to the stack. I have my doubts, I will buy another smoker before I do that, but it is something to consider.
@bevansmith2836
@bevansmith2836 3 жыл бұрын
Its been 3 years, do you still use them ?
@wardad5628
@wardad5628 3 жыл бұрын
inquiring minds want to know?
@bosco2023
@bosco2023 Жыл бұрын
Hell no he doesn’t use them. Nobody does
@stevesyncox9893
@stevesyncox9893 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Jeremy. Thanks man. If you ever get up Northern Alberta way, come sample my bbq.
@ChippyVH
@ChippyVH 7 жыл бұрын
For those asking about the model of the Smoker and where to get it, you can buy this one (Old Country Brazos) at Academy Sports + Outdoors for $999.99. Academy has great pricing on the Old Country line, and OC is exclusive to Academy for big box retailers.
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
👍
@illiniwood
@illiniwood 3 жыл бұрын
@Fred Wills That's because they use Mexican labor (in Mexico). Mexican welders will work for $2.00 to $3.00 an hour and don't stop working until they are told to go home (no joke). American welders expect $23.00 an hour and endless paid smoke breaks, plus full benefits. They can't work a minute past forty hours a week unless paid time and a half. Every time the cost of steel goes up the Mexican labor wage goes down. You could never do that in the U.S and get away with it.
@GadjetGriller
@GadjetGriller 7 жыл бұрын
Very cool idea. Ive seen it done with slices of bread but I like your idea better. Would try that in my Cheap off set but it would all be burnt near the fire box and dried out but not cooked at the other end. Moral of this story save up a bit more money and buy a good off set!! (like you did!) what happen to the over under smoker? keep the great videos coming!
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks! I still have the other cooker, but I will be using both. After several cooks on the over and under, I will be posting a review.
@twaskiparker7251
@twaskiparker7251 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and explanation of tuning plates to a newbie like myself. I love your academic explanations. It Dolezal's to the need in me. Lol I'll definitely be looking for more of your videos.
@mikepoint4983
@mikepoint4983 3 жыл бұрын
So if you were losing the heat , does that mean you must place more coal / wood in the firebox to compensate for the tuning plates if your going to do a longer cook ? Then brings up the question how much more wood / coal will one need to start and finish ? . Great vid . I like the idea of the tuning plates as I’m learning all of this and loving every second of it too . There is so much to smoking / BBQing . Cheers
@rupman27isback
@rupman27isback Жыл бұрын
great question to something that never got answered. SAD!
@user-de1dz9eq6b
@user-de1dz9eq6b 5 ай бұрын
Hi, friend. I am from another country, and I do not have the opportunity to order such Tuning Plates to regulate the temperature in the grill. I'll make them myself, but I need to know how wide these plates are.
@AJ3000_
@AJ3000_ 7 жыл бұрын
Good job on the video and adding some science. I'm really enjoying this channel :)
@xtinmanx
@xtinmanx Жыл бұрын
So, what about after the deflector removal and the stack extension? Also I use a water tray closest to the firebox below the grate. Seems pretty even but I have no tried with biscuits to check it yet.
@RichCatelli
@RichCatelli Жыл бұрын
Great video, can you do a video with half of the tuning plates?
@JoachimErdtman
@JoachimErdtman 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you try a reverse flow offset smoker.
@jerryroark4191
@jerryroark4191 4 жыл бұрын
Did you end up using the tuning plates long term?
@silvermediastudio
@silvermediastudio 6 жыл бұрын
A little red axle grease on those hinges (or honestly, bacon fat or coconut oil) would do wonders.
@Merica73
@Merica73 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid Mad Scientist! Thank you for posting!
@xombies
@xombies 6 жыл бұрын
"What that means for you is...hotter things EXPAND..." Thank you so much. My stupid little mind had no idea what you were talking about.
@zseeley
@zseeley 5 жыл бұрын
Nice experiment! You might also try and just keep the door wide open for maximum exhaust and heat through put... And as you mentioned, control the heat by the amount of fuel.
@dillanmorro3668
@dillanmorro3668 Жыл бұрын
Off topic question. Cause I’ve watched all your fire management videos. I noticed in this video you’re throwing on logs what look like to be about the same size you throw in your 500 and 288. My brand new long horn is about the same size as your brazos. My question is are you still practicing fire management in this video or are you using logs that size for the sake of your experiment or do you normally use logs that size on the bravos.
@davepxxxv
@davepxxxv Жыл бұрын
I've been wanting it to know the same thing. A log that size would kill my fire.
@mrobi002-d2l
@mrobi002-d2l 3 жыл бұрын
...how did the long cook go with these? Did you decide to continue to use them?
@hiltonauld7467
@hiltonauld7467 3 жыл бұрын
Also want to know!!
@SEPU03
@SEPU03 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeremy Hope your having a good day yeah my question for you is do you think a vertical smoker offset is better than a lay down offset smoker and if so can you tell me why thanks I have very little space to operate in my backyard here in California so I am looking to go with a vertical but I trust in your wisdom In your science
@eduardovillegas2267
@eduardovillegas2267 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great information. I just made the call and ordered me this smoker. I have some spare steel and was just wondering what dimensions the plates have. Thanks!
@oldguardduke
@oldguardduke 4 жыл бұрын
Measure the width of the smoking chamber (front to rear) at the level slightly above the heat entrance from the offset firebox into your smoking chamber. On a 30-inch diameter chamber, the offset firebox usually attaches to an opening on the side, 1/4-1/3 of the height of the 30" chamber, or 18"-22" length depending on the height of the firebox opening. (depending on make) I have an "OK Joe" without the reverse flow tuning plate.
@MrMarnold6
@MrMarnold6 3 жыл бұрын
You commented below that you removed the tuning plates because you didn't like them. So what is your recommendation for this grill? Just deal with the giant hotspot? Do you still recommend it at all? Thanks
@dongwonbryanchung
@dongwonbryanchung 7 жыл бұрын
Good job. It is a reasonalble test. I would like to use the tuning panels. Thank you.
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
I called them. They have a number on their website. You have to call Old Country BBQ Pits and order direct. 956-286-6389
@nicklehman3984
@nicklehman3984 4 жыл бұрын
Sweet potato for the win! I never thought of that
@stanleyross6430
@stanleyross6430 4 жыл бұрын
Great presentation. But where can I find tuning plates and do I have to have them cut to fit my pit?
@CJAKS1
@CJAKS1 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever used a anemometer to check air flow out of the stack when playing around with stack extensions?
@jamesgarrett4531
@jamesgarrett4531 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Tyler TX and I bought a smoker like your old country. I follow your videos all the time. I was wanting to know what size are the tuning plates inside of your smoker do I need to buy?
@blueberrymcphuckerson9821
@blueberrymcphuckerson9821 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, noob at smoking here, but it would be better to deal with a harder-to-obtain temperature than dealing with heat & smoke distribution right? It seems like the tuning plates help eliminate a variable (out of many) while making an irreplaceable variable (temperature) more difficult. While without the tuning plates, to me it seems the overall cooking experience is more difficult because not only do you have to worry about temperature but you have to worry about the variable of the heat & smoke distribution. So what I'm trying to get at is; shouldn't you always use tuning plates to make all your smokes slightly easier or is this wrong thinking?
@raptor7869
@raptor7869 4 жыл бұрын
So basically if you cook a brisket on that smoker without plates you want the point end sitting middle to left of center and the flat toward your firebox. Interesting since most everyone says to always put the point end closest to the firebox since it was thought to be the hottest side of the smoker
@mack1707
@mack1707 7 жыл бұрын
Neat idea with the biscuits. Subbed and waiting to see how it goes on a long cook. Nice video
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I have seen it done with bread before, but I thought the biscuits were a better idea since it would allow the dough to cook. It just seemed to be an easy way to gauge the heat distribution without using 10 thermometers.
@tyfawver7596
@tyfawver7596 2 жыл бұрын
Use one less plate and space the remaining plates accordingly. Repeat till you get an even AND HOT grill box.👍
@Pete_or_Peter4Long
@Pete_or_Peter4Long 7 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between the old country smoker and the all American BBQ pit? They seem very comparable in terms of price.
@jorjor362
@jorjor362 5 жыл бұрын
What mods you did to this grill i see red sealer on the lid do you have it anywhere else do you have a video doing your mods if not can you give me the information on all your mods and where to buy them
@TheAmick218
@TheAmick218 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of people adding extension to the stack. Do you think that's needed?? The stock length seems to draw well enough.
@alejandroleal22
@alejandroleal22 6 жыл бұрын
Wow my dad wanted proof ill just show him this ive made 11 pits already Im making him one but i also want a vertical smoker connected to the main chamber ps its 3/8 thick and 20 inch wide
@sidberns1373
@sidberns1373 Жыл бұрын
Would you still use the baffles in this smoker after testing for a while?
@rickalarcon7988
@rickalarcon7988 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Looking into buying one of these. Wondering if you Can you cook something on it without smoking it? Like using it as an oven.
@toddobs
@toddobs 6 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 9'x23" wide offset smoker and now I know what that plate with holes in is for! It has hugeee firebox with the state of Texas shape welded on firebox and the draft plate is in the shape of Texas. Who manufactured this? Thanks!!
@chrisc9802
@chrisc9802 7 жыл бұрын
Question... I am new to smoking. I tried a few times with no success...Thankfully I found you and am looking forward to starting the coals up again!!! I once asked for advice and was told to remove the bark from the wood. What are your thoughts on removing the bark? I see you left your bark on... but I guess it maybe because this is a test... Thank you in advance! Also , can you smoke a salmon so I can see a master at work? I have failed at that as well.
@MrMarnold6
@MrMarnold6 3 жыл бұрын
If it cooks top down why are the bottoms of the muffins clearly more well done than the tops?
@willwarro4054
@willwarro4054 4 ай бұрын
there is a problem not with the plates. in the smoker on the video it has a down flow diverter plate that is mounted above the firebox opening. my ok joe longhorn doesn't have that piece. which makes the plates useless unless i fabricate one to custom fit my smoker. it does have baffle plates but they are right under the grates. and they don't work.
@jorgevega9458
@jorgevega9458 7 жыл бұрын
don't know if you noticed that maybe both your temperature probes and your temperature gauge or thermostat whatever its called are right on the money because your temperature gauge or thermometer it's set right above or parallel with the 2 biscuits that were cooked... don't know if this makes a difference but that's what I noticed...lol... by the way that's a cool experiment pretty smart guy...
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jorge. I think that all three thermometers were pretty accurate. I assumed that the biggest temperature difference would be from one end of the grate to the other. You know what happens when you assume... Regardless, doing the test showed me that the hottest part was actually in the middle. Go figure.
@NikonPhotoHawk
@NikonPhotoHawk 7 жыл бұрын
Well done sir, a very informative and well articulated instructional video. With my old Oklahoma Joe, it did cook much better and more evenly with the tuning plates/baffles , and as you touched on, it did reduce my pits over-all temperature. What make of Smoker do you own if you don't mind me asking? All my best wishes to you & yours...
@nicholassimpson8649
@nicholassimpson8649 3 жыл бұрын
Old country i have the exact same from academy,
@StoneMountainAdventures
@StoneMountainAdventures 7 жыл бұрын
Man I have been wanting someone to do this video for so long. I had heard about doing the biscuit test, but didn't feel I had enough know how to make a video. I was going to ask if you had to use more fuel with the tuning plates in. On my Pecos, it isn't as even as your Brazos, but it does cook close across the board. I think I'm gonna go without the plates. Thanks for the video man!
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
Not a problem. I think I did use a little more fuel with the plates, but I can't be sure from just this test alone.
@diecuttingsolutionsinc6745
@diecuttingsolutionsinc6745 6 жыл бұрын
This makes sense due that all pellet grills use a stainless steel plate across the grill for even heat .
@invisiblekid99
@invisiblekid99 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting indeed. Good video. My only issue is that I don't actually have an offset smoker, yet. When I do I won't be cooking massive amounts. It'll only be one brisket/butt etc. So how important really is it to have such even temps? Not much I'd guess at.
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
You want it to be relatively even, but it doesn't have to be perfect. you're just trying to avoid having one side burned and one side undercooked.
@PracticeMakesPaper
@PracticeMakesPaper Жыл бұрын
Bro all you gotta do is rotate the meat every hour
@paultrout8703
@paultrout8703 3 жыл бұрын
The question I have is... what is better, regular flow, or reverse flow?
@jeffnix3307
@jeffnix3307 2 жыл бұрын
A chunk of sweet potato to hold the probe. Ingenious.
@emmanuelsalinas2334
@emmanuelsalinas2334 5 жыл бұрын
I built bbq pit on the side so this is really cool to see. Do you think that if the most of the heat would stay at the bottom if the smoke stack was placed higher on the pit?
@jaybird4812
@jaybird4812 6 жыл бұрын
With those tuning plates your going to get an even temp across the grate from the radiant heat from the plates themselves...
@lennorrismurray2016
@lennorrismurray2016 5 жыл бұрын
Man thank for the teaching
@RickHdz36
@RickHdz36 7 жыл бұрын
man this was stupid smart! good looking smoke ring! I def need to try this. my smoker is a lot smaller but I know there is some hot spots. awesome video! keep it up
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I appreciate it.
@PurpleSwan
@PurpleSwan 5 жыл бұрын
Next time I want to barbeque a batch of biscuits, I will remember this.
@stevehandley1482
@stevehandley1482 5 жыл бұрын
The tunning plates want effective how hot the pit gets they only effective how even the temps are across the main chamber it actually helps hold the heat better after all that extra steel heats up
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 5 жыл бұрын
Hey I have to disagree with you on that one. The tuning plates seem to restrict airflow and therefore limits the max temperature one can achieve.
@stevehandley1482
@stevehandley1482 5 жыл бұрын
Must be the difference in our pits I can get mine as hot as I want its a 1/4 in 24x60 main with 24x24 1/2 thick firebox’ but I’ve never tried to use it with out the tuning plates either
@travishoover636
@travishoover636 3 жыл бұрын
Have to say, you used your education for something wonderful...BBQ...
@brianlucas7482
@brianlucas7482 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeremy I'm curious especially since I have a Brazos and am thinking about getting tuning plates, it's now 3 years later are you still running it with the tuning plates?
@lynndollar1013
@lynndollar1013 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know that also.
@beardsandbraid3189
@beardsandbraid3189 3 жыл бұрын
I know I'm not him, but I run tuning plates and if you're cooking multiple things at once, they're great. One downside is it will take longer to heat up because you are heating more metal. As crazy a that sounds. Just use more wood and coal though. Now, the good thing about it is that it will hold Temps much better when you add wood to the fire box and leave it open to let it catch. I personally say do it. Just make sure when you first light it up you go about 50% more on the wood and or coal.. otherwise you may be out there fiddling around for a few hours trying to get it to temp...
@stevecaldwell8576
@stevecaldwell8576 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir . Just got new a new smoker 🍺
@razorray1339
@razorray1339 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on your new smoker. Happy smoking. Don't know your experience level just keep after it. You will create lots of magic
@stevecaldwell8576
@stevecaldwell8576 3 жыл бұрын
@@razorray1339 pro
@benoit.gerin-lajoie
@benoit.gerin-lajoie 3 жыл бұрын
Another way to even the heat inside the smoker is to lay a bed of volcanic rocks at the bottom of it... Yo may cover them with an aluminum foil to prevent them being tainted by the meat/whatever cooking juices.
@MrCobra762
@MrCobra762 7 жыл бұрын
I know one thing... I'll be grillin' biscuits tomorrow with that brisket waiting in the fridge.... :) Thank you sir I'm enjoying the technical aspects of your vids! Well done! (in a good way lol)
@MadScientistBBQ
@MadScientistBBQ 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jimzivny1554
@jimzivny1554 7 жыл бұрын
Good experiment.
@beckyjacobs9176
@beckyjacobs9176 3 жыл бұрын
How thick are those tuning plates 3/8 of an inch or quarter inch.
@pedromorales9710
@pedromorales9710 4 жыл бұрын
Where did you get tuning plates? I have exact grill you have on video. Thanks
@slidegee8227
@slidegee8227 5 жыл бұрын
Did you ever figure out if it’s better to cook with the tuning plates or without them?
@wooles01
@wooles01 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very educational cheers
@louissport6663
@louissport6663 3 жыл бұрын
Jeremy I noticed you do not use a coal basket in your smoker, why not?
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