How To Install Volume Spacers In Fox DPS/DPX2 Shock | Plus Tuning Tips!

[@doncrescas]

Exactly three hours ago I was like "these volume spacers have been sitting in my drawer for months, might as well finally get around to putting one in." Nice timing!

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Perfect!

[@jasongermon1527]

Never really thought about putting spacers in my shock till now. Always thought it was a little difficult to do but you have now changed my mind. Thank you and keep up the great vids.

[@kynan.bonnice]

Nice video one of the best bike channels for Australia

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Thanks mate!

[@paulvictor9368]

Welcome to QLD Phil! I live a block from Daisy Hill. Yes please, do ride videos and maybe meet and greet. There are some fast and skilled guys around. I am sure you will get to meet all of them soon enough. Great content! Love the tech talk, it helps a lot.

[@acestu]

Finally somebody knows how to do it properly.. Thank You !

[@wakaclark6496]

The bois and I got chance to meet you at daisy on Monday, glad to see you found your helmet keep up the great work.

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Nice meeting you man! I'm glad too! Didnt want to have to buy a new one!

[@hermes2019]

Great information and delivery - helped me understand volume spacers much more.

[@eskopar]

I just did it. On my T8, fatspacers I call them. Did it in the front too.

[@joekindred7901]

I enjoy seeing trails from an average riders perspective as I am definitely a bang average rider myself so more trail POV vids would be great

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Ok will drop one every time I ride somewhere new!

[@MTKOZ]

Agreed. Most viewers are average or new riders.

[@teghkalsi]

Great video and great to see you on some Qld trails.

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Thanks mate!

[@JFTM_]

With everyone saying ‘come ride this trail’, everyone is a little biased because their trails are the best obviously 😉. But not because you asked for it, but here is the run down: (North -> south) Tewantin - flowy, awesome jumps, well worth a day out or even shuttles. 9/10. Garapine (Private) - Used for racing and ride days, very fast and sometimes techy trails. Parklands - a good mix of tech, some cool features. 7.5/10. Sugarbag Rd (Caloundra) - small and awesome fun with a lot of man made wooden features to keep it interesting. 8/10. Clear Mountain - black DH shuttle run with alt lines. Fast and a lot of speed gaps. 8/10. Bunya (Jinker Track) - a good mix of tech and flow, best served on a 120-140mm trail bike. 7/10. Ironbark (Samford Conservation) - sometimes steep climbs met with fast and flowy single track descents, has a great skills park. 8/10. Gap Creek reserve - Honestly, a lot of pedalling for some good trails. If you’re looking for excellent black runs, this isn’t the place. 7/10. Castle Hill (Ipswich) - Fast and techy, winch and plummet style. If you like testing rims and suspension, this is a solid start. 8.5/10. Redlands (Scribbly Gums) - If you need somewhere to teach your kids mtb... (5.5/10). Bayview - flowy, sometimes steep. Has a great loop at the main entrance for easy laps. 7.5/10. Daisy Hill - flat and pedally, some nice flow, the ‘I’m going for a lap after work’ spot. 7/10. Cornubia - Daisy but with trails that could hurt you. 7.5/10. Nerang - Rocks, rocks and more rocks. A lot of kms of trail, and it gets steep, the proper DH runs were bulldozed. 8/10. Old Tambo DH (Mt Tamborine) - Single black DH run with some awesome flow and tech, best served with an Enduro bike (a bit of pedalling). Does get steep though. 8/10. Mt Joyce - They took the gradings here from Canada, not Brisbane City Council. Has shuttles on weekends. Greens are techy, blues are blues and the blacks can’t be smashed out on a trail bike... comfortably. Has proper double-black DH lines. Fun, fast, and raw. 9/10. Kooralbyn - a bit of everything, gets very hot to pedal in summer. Some fun flowy greens through to proper blacks. 8.5/10. Boomerang Farm Bike Park - it lives up to the reputation. 9.5/10. NV Gravity Park - Good for a day out, I’d prefer Boomers. 8.5/10. Reedy Creek - Wouldn’t travel to ride it. 6/10.

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

You are an absolute legend Jacob! Thanks so much!

[@paulvictor9368]

Thanks Jacob! 👍🏻

[@JEMTB90]

He's not wrong about any of this. I'm itching to get out to Joyce, I've been wanting to cut laps at a difficult place haha. Tewantin is the best place for awesome trails with a climb that doesn't kill you. And Boomers is the best we have, followed by Garapine (When you can get shuttles, though the climb isn't that bad in winter)

[@lucasw713]

Love the new logo!

[@tommih597]

You should visit Boomerang Farm Bike Park if you haven't been there yet. It's pretty epic!

[@machansb]

Really good info thanks mate

[@BestValueMTB]

Great video Phil! You'll definitely find less rocky and more dusty trails - compared to Sydney - while you explore the SEQ trails. Can't wait to meet you once you get some social rides going 😊

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Thanks mate! Keen to catch up and go for a ride! Yeah it's very different but I'm enjoying the flow!

[@CHIEFSFAN1969]

Thanks for this vid! Very helpful.

[@samuelcooke2146]

More pov of products etc would be great

[@liwx]

hi phil. would you be able to make a video in regards to fine cockpit setup etc ? say stem length, stackheight, how much spacers is too much etc

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Absolutely! I'm looking at doing atleast one how to/tips video a month! I'll add it to the list!

[@enzoardovino7458]

You should def do POV videos more often!

[@mitchturton8527]

You should definitely check out Boomerang farm in the Gold Coast, gap creek in Brisbane, Tewantin and sugarbag road in the Sunshine Coast and victory heights in Gympie.

[@determinedskeptic]

Add Mt Joyce to that list, too! 🤙🏻

[@mitchturton8527]

@@determinedskeptic I have never been what are the trails like?

[@determinedskeptic]

@@mitchturton8527 It’s been 7yrs since I went myself, but recent videos show it’s better than when I was last there-I thought it was awesome back in 2014, but it looks way better now! www.trailforks.com/region/mt-joyce-recreation-escape-park-13304/

[@JFTM_]

Massive +1 for boomers. Joyce is gnarly and fun as ever... but I wouldn’t be taking that T8 down anything double black.

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Thanks for the tips guys! Will get around to them all soon!

[@lachie6574]

WOOHOO seq bound, if ur ever bored of daisy give cornubia a spin which is literally within pedalling distance of daisy and a fair bit gnarlier🤘

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Was going to ride it next! Super keen!

[@benmoore8911]

Very helpful, thanks!

[@JEMTB90]

Awesome vid, very informative, I'm thinking I might need to put VS's in my Reign's rear shock.

[@wattermelon1510]

Good informative vid. Thank you.

[@gr8fulride]

excellent vid

[@tbra]

You should check out Gap Creek, Hidden Vale and Jubilee Park Toowoomba!

[@stephanpieterse6960]

Sweet info thanks mate

[@tehalexy]

Ordered yesterday my first real mtb. So, as a 300 lbs guy, i bet i need max spacer and max pressure ... :D

[@coreymclernon]

Great video!

[@DJ_NR6]

Good stuff, thank you!

[@CoorangaCorrella]

Amazing video as always!!! (Even though I'm on a hardtail I still watched it because why not) and also, are you on the southside or northside at the moment?

[@oscaremtb1318]

and nice new intro

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Cheers mate!

[@andreacacchioli]

Hi can you refresh the link in the description for the volume spacers of the DPS model? I am tryng to find the correct model on the web but i don't know what to choose. i think the link is old

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

www.amazon.com/Fox-Racing-Shox-Spring-Tuning/dp/B07YYP6GTN/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=Fox+dps+spacers&qid=1703061895&sr=8-1

[@donnovicki9771]

This comes in handy because my DPS on my T8 I cannot get it set to 30percent sag even with 200 psi in it

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Perfect!

[@Gibsonlp64]

Great Video!. What is the name of the Stem for your T8?

[@anthonylaner9326]

Think youll enjoy cornubia which is also be near by 👍

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Will head there this week!

[@davidmaco1]

is the same spacer used in the dps and x2 ?great video

[@doncrescas]

So in addition to not bottoming out, does the reduction in volume get you more pop from the rear without having to speed up the rebound too much? I find th is to be an issue on my marin rift zone.

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

I would say yes as they is a bit more to push against then it feels more poppy too. That energy isnt wasted so when you push into something it will feel like you are getting rewarded more.

[@snat6299]

Thanks!

[@user-yg4cd2ds1t]

I just ordered the T8 to get back in to shape for motocross, super excited! I’m a bigger guy at 6’2 225lb so I’m guessing I’ll want to do spacers in front and rear as soon as I get the bike, do you have a link for the front spacers as well? Kind of confused with those since fox doesn’t actually sell the forks aftermarket on their site, only as oem on the T8.

[@Aliencreep369]

The 1 dislike its a rockshox gooff

[@Emtbtoday]

Gonna pretty much ride like a hard tail mine does on the float X with 0.9 spacer at 40% I can't get anymore PSI in the shock to get the 30% so will have to remove it for the 0.7 to get the extra PSI I need

[@goncalooliveira-mtb2474]

Hi! Do you think Fox DPS is good to enduro/trail rides the ocasional 1 or 2 races a year (enduro)? I´m thinking buying one like yours in the video. I´m worring if it is more to xc side than donwhill side. Do u think is a good all around shox? Thanks and nice video!

[@JasonTaylor-g6r]

Hey. Thanks for the video. Do you know if adding spacers will void the warranty at all? Asked by LBS but they said they didn’t know ??!! Cheers.

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Definitely not unless you use one that is not made/too big for the shock. I you enter the shock code in fox's website it will let you know

[@TheDrharmon]

I'm loving the channel man I'm about to buy. I'm debating between the polygon vander t7 or a 2016 giant trance both 27.5 any help would be much appreciated I ride mainly trails and downhill. Ride safe keep up the killer videos

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Hi mate, thanks for tuning in! I would go the newer bike, in this case, the Vander will be a much better bike. Better geometry and ride :)

[@izaarthorne7850]

Hey bud how many volume spacers did you end up with on the fork? Did you ever switch out the crank arms to 170mm? I love my T8 but the combination of low BB drop, maybe my riding style, and lack there of volume spacers, I get pedal strikes on just about every ride with the last one taking out for a couple of months due to some fractures. I would think it would ride higher in its travel by adding the spacers, but curious to see what think. Miss riding my T8 : (

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Hi Izaar, I ended up with 3 at the moment, could go 4 tbh. I bought some 170mm cranks but and having some trouble with the spacing (my lack of knowledge there). The BB is low so shorter cranks will provide the biggest help there. If you are under around 185-186cm I would go 165 cranks. But the bike will ride a little higher with the spacers too. Sorry to hear about the crash :(

[@izaarthorne7850]

@@trailtalkmtb6603 Excellent and thank you! I will let you know how it rides after the changes, approximately within 6 weeks once physical therapy is over. Plan on swapping/adding spacers and getting bike riding higher before changing the out the crank arms. 1 variable at a time.

[@mtbshaman]

Mate, can the travel be upgrade, say from 115mm to 130mm? Thanks

[@polishguywithhardtospellna8227]

Bloody hell, I'm using 250psi for 28% sag on my trek fuel ex7 2019 XL with my puny 80kg and still escorting sag ring to very bottom of the shaft each mild ride. I'll be chucking spacers at my float dps like grain at birds 😂

[@jaycarneygiants]

My spacer doesn't exactly sit flush or set inside the shock. Is that normal?

[@kungfupro]

Hi! Do you know where to get volume spacers for X-fusion O2 pro RCX, the one Marin installed in their Alpine Trail 7 2020?

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

In Australia, DIYMYB is your best bet

[@kungfupro]

@@trailtalkmtb6603 Thanx!

[@edwardjski]

"You should hear an audible hiss" -which is demonstrated. I also heard a bird chirp -is that normal? Maybe location dependent? ;-)

[@faizalzainal4038]

I just purchased a Polygon T8. My bodyweight is 112kg. Do you recommend me to add a spacer to my rear shock? If yes, what is the size? And what immediate difference can I feel? Thank you so much

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

I'd try the 1.0 spacer and around 28% sag to start with. No sure what psi that would be though

[@AlinB1108]

Going through the same thing. Deciding whether to go from 0.4 to 0.6 or 0.8 first. Was wondering what your weight is for comparison.

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

83-84kg with a full kit. I'd say .6 under 75kg and over 90kg probably a 1.0

[@nosreuter]

@@trailtalkmtb6603 I'm ~90 kg and just swapped out that tiny little pink 0,2 spacer that my shock came with. Opted for the yellow 0,6 since that felt like a huge leap. Now your saying I perhaps should try the biggest (red 0.95) that would swap me fully to the other side of the spectrum 😂 I'm on a YT Jeffsy and I think the linkage is considered quite progressive so maybe the middle ground will be fine..Really curious to see what's gonna happen!

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

@@nosreuter my suggestions are really only limited to the siskiu t in this example. Every bike is different in terms of progression so the .6 on the jeffsy might be perfect

[@nosreuter]

@@trailtalkmtb6603 I kind of realized that as I was writing this. The Jeffsy is supposedly quite progressive. Excited to try it out though!

[@sido1649]

Did you add any spacer in the fox 34 rythyms?

[@MidWestMTB]

Wait what, I thought you only had to compress every 50 psi when adding air not when taking it out?

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

I've always done both. I'd say taking it out is just as important as this would be where it would suck down if it's not balanced but I'm not an engineer hahaha

[@MidWestMTB]

@@trailtalkmtb6603 Yeah me neither, everytime I get new info I'm worried I did it wrong and damaged something.

[@GeorgePelikan]

Can you take ALL the spaces out of the DPS? (I have removed all the tokens in the front fork).

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Yes you can

[@GeorgePelikan]

@@trailtalkmtb6603 thanks a bunch! Just realized that mine came from the factory with no spacers. So I'm good to go.

[@proteusnexus1428]

Can the spacers be combined together like in case of forks?

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Not with the fox dps and dpx2 they just come in different sizes. Some shocks use bands and clips when you can add multiple

[@proteusnexus1428]

@@trailtalkmtb6603 Thanks for confirmation.

[@AlamoCityFishing]

Can you stack the spacers?

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

Not for the fox dps and dpx2. They come in different sizes instead

[@dbartholomew2]

How much do you weigh? Curious since it effects shock function. Thanks!

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

83-84kg kitted :)

[@lukeeastonwright1651]

Come to iron bark

[@polishguywithhardtospellna8227]

Sadly no one is warning people about fox spacers minefield. The are big data sheets with models and their limitations, because most their shocks has collision inside when you put the larger ones in. So yeah, here's how to mount a spacer, now go have fun!

[@lukeeastonwright1651]

Can you do a collab with Luke Radley who’s another Brisbane rider and KZbinr

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

I'll have to reach out to him! He's a much better rider than me hahaha will be tough to keep up!

[@lukeeastonwright1651]

@@trailtalkmtb6603 get an e bike haha

[@trailtalkmtb6603]

@@lukeeastonwright1651 hahahaha definitely contemplating it!

[@orangejuicepony6881]

Last

[@oscaremtb1318]

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[@CheeZyNutZ]

Great now my shock wont take any air

[@air2249]

first

[@ertugrul791]

i dont want to like this video because it has 222 like its perfect i dony want to change it