How To Lace a 4 Cross BMX Wheel

thanks for watching my how to lace a 4x lacing pattern 36h bicycle wheel, if you have any questions about this feel free to ask me in the comments!
what you need to do this is:
a hub with 36 holes
a rim with 36 holes
36 spokes (192mm should be perfect)
36 nipples
a spoke wrench or screw driver (to tighten everything together)
if you're looking for a 3x lacing pattern i have this how to:
• How to Lace a 36H BMX ...

[@ProfKaos-yf8oq]

good video but i have to point out that 4cross is always over over over under. It allows for the crossing spokes to share impact force and reduces stress on the rim.

[@LizardBikes]

That's what I thought the last cross one needs to go under.

[@jackpickerill549]

Hey, I'm about to build a wheel using this method do you know of a good tutorial for this?

[@ProfKaos-yf8oq]

@@jackpickerill549 there are alot of good video's on 3cross and 4cross. I got a great tip for you though, after building an treuing the wheel tighten the outer spokes who crosses the inner a quarter so every spoke that faces outside. If you do this you won't have to true your wheels for a long time especially if you ride 4cross

[@teddydormindo-ch2mk]

Thank you very much David for your video tutorials God bless you.

[@xt600sc]

Very clear explanation. Thank you.

[@rodrenz6861]

I'm restoring my 84 Mongoose Californian and my pro class wheels are 4 Cross pattern. I'm so glad I found your video! It helped thus 49 year old man out tremendously. Thank you. 👍

[@jlewandowski9348]

Believe it or not, you saved my sanity lacing my 1936 Elgin! I must have watched 10 other videos, 15 different tries until I found your video. Thanks so much!

[@giuseppevasaturo3984]

you gave a very simple explanation of a difficult job, good

[@daobmx]

thanks, hope it is easy for everyone to follow along 👍

[@fiveola]

Thanks for demo-ing this lacing pattern. Conceptually I believe this’ll work for my motorcycle rim lacing.

[@worlduser8772]

You are exactly who I wanted to teach me how to do this. Everyone watching remember to thread the spoke UNDER the 4th cross tho!!!

[@offthegrid2635]

Thanks to this video. Thanks my friend 😊😊😅

[@4kh3r]

used this for my eclat exile rear hub and trippin rim, thank you

[@daobmx]

awesome!

[@cakeisalie]

thanks, I accidentally orderd 306 spokes instead of 300, doing the 4-cross worked

[@mrbuffchunky9459]

Hi, is this the patterns used for the fly lunar x lace rim?

[@BigTree412]

Yeah I noticed BsD does 4 cross on any wheel they sell Im waiting for my rev nasa complete wheel I’m pumped about it

[@Gen01Lee]

Good video but pretty sure it’s over 3 under the 4th. Assume this would work idk if it’d be as strong? Thanks for the video!

[@SinisterPrince]

I appreciate you having the best wheel lacing videos on youtube. You da man. That being said... you need to re-record the audio on this man.. or re-do it with a real mic. Please. Your engagement will be so much better.

[@roadvader]

And for the front wheel 4x, you'll also need 192mm? Thanks

[@dakotacunningham5400]

Do you have a way to get ahold of you for guidance for some wheel I built two of them one needs trued other not so much but goo idea

[@daobmx]

dm on instagram i usually get to the quickest 👍🏻

[@roybennett86]

So on the normal 3x the pattern is over, over, under correct me if I'm wrong... is there not an under cross on the 4x?

[@daobmx]

correct on the style four cross i am showing, though there are so many patterns for wheel building that i am sure there is an over under type of pattern for a 4x 👍

[@EastCoastPGS]

the 4x pattern he did is the classic vintage pattern that were done on all the 80s bmx bikes (mongoose, GT, ect.) back in the day which is 4 over, no under. There is a 4x pattern that goes under that I have seen before

[@LizardBikes]

@@EastCoastPGS I thought the last cross needs to go under. I'm consulting with some old time Whizzer motor bike wheel builders, going to ask.

[@EastCoastPGS]

@@LizardBikes Yeah it does. I just did a set of wheels with the 4th going under. But I think you can go over too just not sure how strong that pattern is.

[@LizardBikes]

@@EastCoastPGS yes I talked to an older gentleman wheel builder that told me that under on the last cross is not necessary. Can be done both ways!

[@abksk8]

nicely done!

[@farrismueller140]

Thanks, you have my sub and such.

[@Bigchief-mm8sn]

Good info bro … great video thanks …

[@EricRupe]

Once it is laced up, if you tighten every nipple down to the end of the threads on the spoke, the wheel will be fairly true to begin with. There won’t be much left to do after that. Also, this video didn’t instruct the builder to inner-lace the spokes Just don’t have them lay on top of each other, but put the next one under the previous one & the wheel will be even stronger, sturdier, tighter and better. Thanks for the vid 😊

[@pauljames1978]

Spokes Crosses Drive Spoke Length Non Drive Spoke Length 36 3 184.1 183.6 36 4 193.6 192 This is what my spoke calculator sed this wheels spoke length is for 3 and 4 cross hope it helps you David 👍

[@ooo-gh1nm]

Is 4 cross stronger and if not is there a way to lace a wheel and make it strong?

[@daobmx]

this is stronger than your normal 3x pattern, and to keep a wheel strong you just have to tighten spokes when they get loose/replace a spoke if it breaks

[@1kf117]

great video and today helped me build my first wheel - animal hub with odyssey rim .Rolls great and feels strong, Nice one man as couldn't have done it without this.

[@mwworkman]

How about a 5 cross? I'm pretty sure back in the 80s, we used to have a 5 cross on Z rims...? Anyone doing those today? Are rims stronger so you only need a 4 cross?

[@daobmx]

i am positive that rims are stronger, i have had the same G Sport rims on for over 5 years of hard riding, but i just haven't heard of 5 cross for bmx before, probably before my time. the gsports i mentioned are also cross laced as in opposite sides of rim and hub connect, so i know that is a big part of the strength

[@mwworkman]

@daobmx Yeah. You're probably right on the strength these days. I have some triple wall Odyssey rims from few years back. Those are heavy and solid, ha, probably just a 3 cross. Thank you for your video and reply. I may try to lace up some rims.

[@dblythe5958]

Do I use the same pattern on a 48h?

[@beardyface8492]

The principle is the same, for ultimate strength tandems used to use 48H & 5 cross, good luck finding a spoke length calculator that lets you even enter the parameters for that though.

[@dblythe5958]

I was wanting to lace up a sun big city to a mid school odyssey hub

[@shakedinbar2162]

why would it be stronger? it has an higher leaning angle which makes them less effective holding all the stress, i think..

[@daobmx]

its further spread out tension and crossing more area making it a stronger wheel all together

[@shakedinbar2162]

@@daobmx interesting, i didn't know. why is the industry still stuck at 3 cross if so?

[@beardyface8492]

@@shakedinbar2162 4 cross used to be standard on rear wheels if you go back to ancient British 3 speed bikes with hub gears which tended to be heavy & got ridden on poor roads. They typically used 40 spokes rather than 36 as well. 5 cross (and 48 spokes) was common on tandems for the increased strength. Some ancient history for you. 3 cross is standard because it's cheaper.

[@danielthrelfall3095]

Sorry its not clear to me. Got there in the end. Used to 3 cross. Its the same but goes over 3 and under the 4th.

[@adonistababa7115]

Can you 4 cross 32 hole?

[@daobmx]

ive never heard of a 32 hole rim

[@crxxpslvyr7887]

@@daobmx i think hes on dj mtb

[@beardyface8492]

Not recommended, you'd need hubs with an unusually large pcd to even try, done on a smaller hub the spokes interfere with each other & tend to break.

[@coreymckenzie8945]

Commenting to say I had to turn the volume down during the intro and couldn't hear anything until I turned up the volume again. I wish I could of stayed and learned something.

[@jdm91hatch]

Are you gonna run 4 cross in the back and 3 cross in the front?

[@daobmx]

i do right now, i laced my bsd hub up four cross when i got it 6 months ago, my front wheel is stock gsport so that comes 3 cross.

[@abdullahalkwary3306]

@@daobmxhey I will buy the gsport but I need to know the tall of the spokes should I take 186mm???

[@birdup2598]

0:54

[@jasonclores8987]

the pattern is 3 lace

[@artosaari6209]

Close but not correct my boy. Just like a 3 cross pattern on your 3rd set of 9 spokes you need to go over 3 under 1. 3 cross is over 2 under 1. There is going to be a shitload of people blowing out their wheels doing it this way. Also if you choose 4 cross remember to add about 1.5mm to the length of your spokes from a 3 cross.

[@blufinnschannelinhonorofbl5450]

Ok. Look. That music is loud and absolutely diabolical. You have an easy way with the education of it, but that ear grind has got to go!

[@daobmx]

i dont do the intro anymore and when if i make a new one i promise it wont be obnoxious 😭😂