How To Lay Siege To A Star Fortress In The 16th and Early 17th Century

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SandRhoman History

SandRhoman History

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@naufalali8704
@naufalali8704 4 жыл бұрын
Me at 3am with instant ramen: I wonder how to siege a star fortress
@The_FatGeneral
@The_FatGeneral 4 жыл бұрын
me rn
@zapanimevideos
@zapanimevideos 4 жыл бұрын
BRO literally me rn
@cloud8813
@cloud8813 4 жыл бұрын
^
@vukashin88
@vukashin88 4 жыл бұрын
What do you put into your ramen
@naufalali8704
@naufalali8704 4 жыл бұрын
@@vukashin88 medieval education
@ASTRO_NAUTIKAL
@ASTRO_NAUTIKAL 4 жыл бұрын
Before Quarantine: Who the hell cares about 17th century warfare? Week 6 Quarantine: I must know everything about siege warfare.
@geradosolusyon511
@geradosolusyon511 4 жыл бұрын
@@ClunFunDun 1 year after the start of quarantine: So infiltrating a government base is this easy....
@David0lyle
@David0lyle 3 жыл бұрын
No no, I was interested in this before that happened. I just didn’t stay home to look it up.
@yannikoloff7659
@yannikoloff7659 3 жыл бұрын
@@ClunFunDun They did. They was throwing dead animal parts into town with catapults
@alexnovak3319
@alexnovak3319 3 жыл бұрын
It is our purpose of life to learn those tactics!
@alex2005z
@alex2005z 3 жыл бұрын
True
@VaeVictisXIII
@VaeVictisXIII 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I saw this, I was really worried about laying siege to my neighbours star fortress, but now i'm more informed than ever! SALLY FORTH!
@crusaderkaiser2000
@crusaderkaiser2000 4 жыл бұрын
How’d the siege go my man?
@mingpingxie3563
@mingpingxie3563 4 жыл бұрын
I tried it, 0 out of 10. All my equipment and manpower were destroyed in the assault. Don’t try it.
@themanwithallthewrongopini3551
@themanwithallthewrongopini3551 4 жыл бұрын
0 out of 10, got stalingraded
@liammurphy2725
@liammurphy2725 3 жыл бұрын
You leave Sally alone. She's a good girl and doesn't need your attention.
@mingpingxie3563
@mingpingxie3563 3 жыл бұрын
@@markdavis7397 A wild star fortress has appeared!
@Rojoyerf
@Rojoyerf 4 жыл бұрын
I love how you quote actual historians and do your own historiography rather than simply regurgitating something you read off wikipedia. Keep up the good work!
@artyomarty391
@artyomarty391 4 жыл бұрын
wikipedia has quotes as well. So you can steal those quotes from wiki
@sumoking3002
@sumoking3002 4 жыл бұрын
But still manages to be unable to tell the difference between English and British, doh
@ubellubo
@ubellubo 4 жыл бұрын
@@sumoking3002 The English is the correct term in this context. The Kingdom of Great Britain did not come into being until 1707.
@sumoking3002
@sumoking3002 4 жыл бұрын
@@ubellubo the flags
@haileyscomment8474
@haileyscomment8474 3 жыл бұрын
All of this information is on Wikipedia too.. it’s 2021, that’s like insulting somebody for learning from an encyclopedia.. You must be stuck in 2004 or something when anybody can change wiki pages
@JamesBond-fg6bt
@JamesBond-fg6bt 4 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: the seige lasts so long that the attackers end up building a city around the sieged city to deal with day to day necessities, eventually building a wall around their own city, and that city gets sieged. Siege-ception.
@comradewestov3047
@comradewestov3047 4 жыл бұрын
So the battle of tralee in that time or alesia in ancient times
@thibaudduhamel2581
@thibaudduhamel2581 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much what happened during the siege of Arras where the french army besieging Arras was itself besieged by a spanish army, that itself was then besieged by french reinforcments. Siegeception
@ReapingTheHarvest
@ReapingTheHarvest 4 жыл бұрын
There's always a bigger fish... I mean usually.
@parkerjeans5777
@parkerjeans5777 4 жыл бұрын
Did julius caesar do that shit lmao
@zach11241
@zach11241 4 жыл бұрын
That sounds more like a Siegeducken?
@NakedGeep
@NakedGeep 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad this got recommended to me. I’m actually laying siege to a star fortress next week, and this has been really helpful! Thanks!
@macgarymusic
@macgarymusic 2 жыл бұрын
How did it go Mr. Cannon?
@celticlad5866
@celticlad5866 2 жыл бұрын
I have to defend a star fort next week, now I have a basic idea on how to counter the enemy use these tactics.
@soldiergg199
@soldiergg199 2 жыл бұрын
@@macgarymusic by his lack of reply in past 2 months. He didn't survive. He truly died like a hero. May his country man remember him as brave general who led the besiege.
@macgarymusic
@macgarymusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@soldiergg199 F
@antonioacosta568
@antonioacosta568 2 жыл бұрын
Same! Shout-out to historical accuracy
@napolien1310
@napolien1310 4 жыл бұрын
How to do SIEGES!! Me taking notes in these difficult times.
@useodyseeorbitchute9450
@useodyseeorbitchute9450 4 жыл бұрын
Stockpiling toilet paper become so mainstream. Good that you are thinking a few steps ahead of others.
@quyenmojos9004
@quyenmojos9004 4 жыл бұрын
Counter-sapper that try to steals your toilet papers and do sorties on your nearest store before you get in any contact.
@dariusw1776
@dariusw1776 4 жыл бұрын
I just started fortifying my house to protect the Toilet paper. Come at me, if you want the real siege experience
@Oldschool747
@Oldschool747 4 жыл бұрын
@@dariusw1776 don't care about the tp, but I definitely want that siege experience!
@wolfgangkranek376
@wolfgangkranek376 4 жыл бұрын
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 Don't forget to (stock-)pile the toilet paper in star shape formation!
@raylast3873
@raylast3873 4 жыл бұрын
Julius Caesar: I‘m just gonna counter their walls by building more walls around them. Let‘s see how they like THAT lmao 16th Century tacticians: furious note-taking
@Ezyasnos
@Ezyasnos 3 жыл бұрын
That's why it's called the Renaissance (which means rebirth - of the Roman empire, as they envisioned)
@Haannibal777
@Haannibal777 3 жыл бұрын
How to you defeat wall? By building more walls outside it. Then how do you defeat those outside walls? By building further outside walls???
@raylast3873
@raylast3873 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ezyasnos except Caesar did this once, as a gimmick, because his army was smaller than the Gaulish Army. In the post-feudal era, this was the systematically dominant approach to siegecraft.
@agentbarron3945
@agentbarron3945 3 жыл бұрын
@@raylast3873 Id say up to ww1 or so, just a wall of men instead of stone
@raylast3873
@raylast3873 3 жыл бұрын
@@agentbarron3945 eh...the warfare in WWI was already veeery different. First time there were really continuous fronts and whatnot.
@Heff-Curry
@Heff-Curry 4 жыл бұрын
I used to only really read about early-medieval and ancient history, but your channel has single handedly ignited my interest in this time period. You have such consistently great content, very much appreciated.
@nick-qb4fd
@nick-qb4fd 4 жыл бұрын
Read about the siege of Malta
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher 4 жыл бұрын
It's strange how the transition from Medieval warfare to Early Modern is seriously neglected, but I like how it seems to be attracting more attention now.
@drsnobby881
@drsnobby881 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao most of this isn't about medieval and ancient times. Have you even watched the video?
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher 4 жыл бұрын
@@drsnobby881 He did. And the channel has ignited an interest in the subject. Do you even read, bro?
@DerDoctor69
@DerDoctor69 4 жыл бұрын
Same here, but for me it was more the modern histroy that was interesting to me
@PrinceOfDolAlmroth
@PrinceOfDolAlmroth 4 жыл бұрын
Easily one one of the most informative military history channels I've seen on here. the points are well covered and backed by historians, the visuals are simple yet effectively convey the ideas and subject matter in an entertaining way, and the narration is concise and pleasurable to the ears. If Dovahatty is the meme side of youtube history channels, this is the exact opposite of the spectrum, but still incredibly entertaining.
@andreascovano7742
@andreascovano7742 4 жыл бұрын
Man, the spanish weren't fooling around at amiens....
@ilo3456
@ilo3456 4 жыл бұрын
There is a reason they once had the largest empire in the world unfortunately they weren't so good at economics, as the downfall of their empire shows.
@nikushamosidze1951
@nikushamosidze1951 4 жыл бұрын
@@ilo3456 yes
@DudeWatIsThis
@DudeWatIsThis 4 жыл бұрын
@@ilo3456 People talk as if anyone knew any better back then. This is the 1500s and 1600s, right before people started slowly figuring out "modern economics". The Spanish Empire lasted 200 years as the World's #1 world power. USA has been the dominant world power for 80 years so far, and it has seen 2 great market crashes (3, if you count today's pandemic). The British Empire is usually the one everyone gets compared to, but their hegemony lasted only about 150 years. And yes, they were arguably the best Empire handling their money, BUT, you have to take into account that they had it MUCH easier than anyone else: - Technology allowed it (which the Spanish didn't have). - "Global morality" also allowed it (which the USA have to contend with today). There wasn't the modern conciousness of "hating war/colonialism" that there is today. You could go somewhere, give people smallpox-ridden blankets, install a puppet king, and then grab everything for yourself. Essentially, they were in the right place, at the right time. And by the way, both the British and the Spanish both "hated" slavery, don't get me wrong. Each Empire used its own loopholes to still justify and use it extensively - and the USA would do it as well if they could (and they do, when and where they can).
@MisoElEven
@MisoElEven 4 жыл бұрын
@@DudeWatIsThis I would like to know how they knew that those blankets had smallpox in them when they didnt know anything about bacteria and even less about viruses..they thought that diseases are transmitted through bad smells as far as I know but Im willing to hear you out. (hope I didnt sound agressive, I really would like to know)
@JoshuaKevinPerry
@JoshuaKevinPerry 4 жыл бұрын
@@DudeWatIsThis Smallpox blankets are historical fiction. We did enslave the Germans after WW2 to rebuild Europe.
@theflyingcatz
@theflyingcatz 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this September 15th 1608, really helpful. Captured a french star fort in no-time.
@SandRhomanHistory
@SandRhomanHistory 4 жыл бұрын
good luck!
@user-uy1rg8td1v
@user-uy1rg8td1v 2 жыл бұрын
@@SandRhomanHistory Great videos and animation style. I do feel your accent does make it hard to understand you. Since your audience is English speaking, I was wondering would you be open to hiring an English voice actor to narrate your videos? That's what the youtube history channel Kings and Generals do, they use a posh English professional voice actor and he does a great job. I would also caution against using background music too loudly or even too much as I feel background music is unnecessary for the middle of the video past the intro music especially since you have a thick accent that makes it harder to understand you.
@mariushunger8755
@mariushunger8755 4 жыл бұрын
I rather prefer to be quarantined in my living room than caged in a beleaguered city...
@Tridentus
@Tridentus 4 жыл бұрын
Tough times breed tough kids who turn into tough adults. We're like domesticated dogs if you compare them to their wolf ancestors. If we'd lived in those times we'd be tougher to cope (or be dead I spose).
@Sandouras
@Sandouras 4 жыл бұрын
They had no internet back then. It must have been horrible!
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 4 жыл бұрын
I'd don't think I'd want to be inside a besieged city either, friend.
@chiefexecutiveaccelerator
@chiefexecutiveaccelerator 4 жыл бұрын
you can image your living room as a star fortress then defend it
@cambuurleeuwarden
@cambuurleeuwarden 4 жыл бұрын
thats like saying 'I much rather be sleeping in my own warm bed at home than be quartered by four horses'
@herculean616
@herculean616 4 жыл бұрын
_Outside the Fortress:_ *Screams, Guns, Explosion* _Inner Fortress_ *Birds chirping, peaceful farming, fortress lasted long enough to put a child into college*
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher 4 жыл бұрын
There is no war in Ba Singh Se.
@qwertyerror601
@qwertyerror601 4 жыл бұрын
oh dont worry. the chikd who reached college will now become a new officer, and lead his classmates into a sally forth
@yeet877
@yeet877 4 жыл бұрын
Not really. There was only military men in the fortresses, people were living outside them because farming fields as you said were outside the fort. So the whole thing was just a big bunker with barracks and lots of resources to repair with.
@rifkifanani3694
@rifkifanani3694 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeet877 what about a walled city? sure there's proably no farm inside but there are atleast some civilian doing their thing
@yeet877
@yeet877 3 жыл бұрын
@@rifkifanani3694 Well a walled city is not a fortress.
@JonatasAdoM
@JonatasAdoM 4 жыл бұрын
"You are wrong, Total war taught me that the walls were stormed using ropes that come from nowhere"
@jordanfleck5113
@jordanfleck5113 4 жыл бұрын
YES!!
@arcamean785
@arcamean785 4 жыл бұрын
@nikolai bahtin Or multiple ladders that a single man could put up all at once from no where.
@qwertyerror601
@qwertyerror601 4 жыл бұрын
or your peasants climbing the walls while half of them fall off from freindly fire, causing a demoralized troop to get F'd by 45 samurai
@Bruh-hq1hx
@Bruh-hq1hx 4 жыл бұрын
That is how samurai sieged stuff throw a rope and fall of it and die due to bad cardio
@T33K3SS3LCH3N
@T33K3SS3LCH3N 4 жыл бұрын
@@qwertyerror601 that was at least a far more realistic scenario than modern TW sieges with the aforementioned Ladders Ex Machina.
@lastword8783
@lastword8783 4 жыл бұрын
Sieging the same fortress for 21 years: OMG im tired of playing this map.
@nilspochat8665
@nilspochat8665 4 жыл бұрын
Here in France you just have to use the name of Vauban (or an adjectiv made of it and a suffix) to make someone understand you're talking about "star fortress". Even though the guy did not invent this kind of shaped city walls, he engineered most of them or converted them to that kind of fortification, and more. He is THE reference conscerning the fortresses and sieges of that time, *no one here doesn't know about the guy* . After all, he worked with Louis XIV almost for almost the entirety of his reign, quite a long and belligerent one, starting at only 22, and there's so much to say about him it fits to say he's a legend.
@TeutonicEmperor1198
@TeutonicEmperor1198 4 жыл бұрын
He and Coehorn were the masters of star fortification not only by building them but also by finding ways to capture them!
@kamilszadkowski8864
@kamilszadkowski8864 4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping that they would also mention the Dutch and French styles of building fortifications. From the video, it almost sounds like there was just the Italian style. Although I imagine that time constraints are to blame here. You can only fit so much ina relatively short KZbin video.
@oddballsok
@oddballsok 4 жыл бұрын
funny to think that when today a nations power is counted in ballistic missiles, in (pre) WW1 in numbers of dreadnoughts, in 16th-17th Century it was counted in fortified cities. Vauban on the french side, and Coehorn on the dutch side working "like mad" (paid by their sovereign leaders) to construct these mathematical perfect shaped fortresses.
@nilswettlin2012
@nilswettlin2012 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed, I live very close to one of vaubans forts (neuf-brisach, close to the German border) it was never conquered in a real battle, the city surrendered once, in the franco Prussian war, when they were out of food
@ТомасАндерсон-в1е
@ТомасАндерсон-в1е 4 жыл бұрын
There's a (very mediocre) Russian alt-history book which mentions him
@tim..indeed
@tim..indeed Ай бұрын
This was low-key one of the most sophisticated times of warfare ever. Technological progress was slow, small-scale wars were everywhere and causalities were often low, meaning that many of the soldiers had experience directly in the area like never before.
@pikeshotBattles
@pikeshotBattles 4 жыл бұрын
Ey, I I was going to do this video in just a couple of months time, but you beat me to it! One thing I would add is that the reason for the wet ditch was so the attacker couldn't dig a tunnel to undermine the bastion. In order to do that they first had to drain the ditch, and that took a lot of time. This is one of the main reasons why it was so hard to take Dutch fortifications, as water was always abundant, and often impossible to drain (as at Antwerp 1584-85). BTW would you be interested in a cooperation? I have a few ideas that might fit your roster.
@evanx383
@evanx383 4 жыл бұрын
A worthwhile comment. Tunneling defeated because the tunnel would flood. Clever.
@lamolambda8349
@lamolambda8349 4 жыл бұрын
I was born in the water raised by it I didn't see dry land until I was already a man.
@SandRhomanHistory
@SandRhomanHistory 4 жыл бұрын
I'll write you an email :)
@rudy103069
@rudy103069 4 жыл бұрын
@michael dowson all have bs building narrative just like fort prince of wales by church hill manitoba. these where left over building from the antedulvian time. you can still see their grid on google earth.
@justinokraski3796
@justinokraski3796 4 жыл бұрын
also the defenders can see the water level going down
@leifrobinson6118
@leifrobinson6118 4 жыл бұрын
I was literally 2 seconds into this and I subscribed just from the artwork. My first time seeing your videos. Unbelievable work!
@SandRhomanHistory
@SandRhomanHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video. Thanks. I lived in Nicosia, Cyprus for many years. A classic example of a star fortress built around a city. The Venetian walls around the Cypriot capital still stand to this day. A really lovely feature of the city.
@SandRhomanHistory
@SandRhomanHistory 4 жыл бұрын
I've visited Nicosia and Cyprus with an Ancient history seminar. We've stayed at Nicosia as well. Amazing Island, amazing history, amazing food and cool people ;)
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 4 жыл бұрын
SandRhoman History I lived there for 8 years. Still have family on the island. So many great historical sites - from all eras. Love the channel, by the way! :-)
@Wo0dGlue
@Wo0dGlue 4 жыл бұрын
The spanish movie Alatriste shows the famous Siege of Breda from the view of the attackers, with some rather gritty trench warfare, matchlock sniper duel and trench crawling. Great historical flick that you can find on youtube
@smithrick7051
@smithrick7051 4 жыл бұрын
I live there and never saw it. Gonna find it now tho
@Damo2690
@Damo2690 4 жыл бұрын
"Matchlock sniper duel" wat
@angelopueyygarcia43
@angelopueyygarcia43 4 жыл бұрын
Damo2690 believe it or not that happened. You have to be very skilled though and extremely lucky.
@WiseSnake
@WiseSnake 4 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention Aragorn is the lead role. lol Looks pretty good so far.
@robertasvaicius4437
@robertasvaicius4437 4 жыл бұрын
@@Damo2690 they take turns to 360 no-scope one another until one of them wins.
@alclay8689
@alclay8689 3 жыл бұрын
finally watched after 6 months on my recommended. the back and forth arms race trying to outwit each other was far more fascinating than i thought it would be. nice vid
@miguelmontenegro3520
@miguelmontenegro3520 4 жыл бұрын
Romans generals: I wonder if in the future people will stop building stuff around the besieged city, it's so unpractical. What great times those shall be. Generals a millennia later: What a beautiful ring of stuff I built around this little town. Look at it.
@wu1ming9shi
@wu1ming9shi 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly though, even if they didn't knew about the romans like we do today (was the story of Alesia that widely known at the time?) they still would've come to the same conclusion of you had half a brain.
@miguelmontenegro3520
@miguelmontenegro3520 4 жыл бұрын
@@wu1ming9shi We expect that generals are keen to read ancient warfare books for guidance. Many ancient scrolls survived, mainly in italy, as the schollars from Constantinople fled there.
@wu1ming9shi
@wu1ming9shi 4 жыл бұрын
@@miguelmontenegro3520 That may indeed be a possibility but it's also likely that it was a logical conclusion.
@miguelmontenegro3520
@miguelmontenegro3520 4 жыл бұрын
@@wu1ming9shi The thing is: I compared both as a joke, because almost a millennia later they were doing It again
@RagbagMcShag
@RagbagMcShag 4 жыл бұрын
@@miguelmontenegro3520 is that the medieval equivalent of building a net-deck? :-]
@Yuyu-ox3xl
@Yuyu-ox3xl 3 жыл бұрын
Girl: He's probably thinking of other women Guy: I wonder how you lay siege to a star fortress?
@PANZERFAUST90
@PANZERFAUST90 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a question?
@LuizAlexPhoenix
@LuizAlexPhoenix 3 жыл бұрын
@@Io-vz2jq I mean, if you are cool with that, more power to you. I ain't kinkshaming people that fantasize about their SO getting gangbanged to the point of projecting on others, but you don't need to tell us about it.
@joehopkins3684
@joehopkins3684 3 жыл бұрын
cringe
@thedestroyer7530
@thedestroyer7530 4 жыл бұрын
0:31 Mr. Stark i dont feel so good
@jakehughes6087
@jakehughes6087 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@grondhero
@grondhero 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, snap!
@stephenday2342
@stephenday2342 3 жыл бұрын
@@grondhero I see what you did th....
@CharitonIosifides
@CharitonIosifides 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Greetings from Nicosia, Cyprus. That 21 year siege was actually of Chándax (Χάνταξ), which is modern day Heraklion in Crete. The fortifications were first made by the Saracens who just called the place Castle of the Moat (Chantax in Greek). The Venetians just changed Chandax to Cadia and made a huge upgrade to the walls. 40 meters thick and more than 20 meters tall in places. They still stand and they are an impressive sight even today. Unfortunately, and despite it’s modern walls, Nicosia fell easily to the Ottomans in 1578. Famagusta on the other side gave them a black eye. Look it up.
@G1ennbeckismyher0
@G1ennbeckismyher0 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, a helpful tutorial i can use in my everyday life.
@Т1000-м1и
@Т1000-м1и 2 жыл бұрын
With the rising amounts of this kind of fortification being applied for defence and housing by all kinds of potential opponent military organizations, it has become very important to stay educated on them. Thanks for the fantastic guide on this "real world" medieval RTS game that cool kids play nowadays
@brianoneil9662
@brianoneil9662 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously, I absolutely LOVE your art style and animation. I already like history but your videos not only look AWESOME, the information and presentation are just fantastic! Kudos sir!
@brianoneil9662
@brianoneil9662 4 жыл бұрын
@zztop3000 That's what I mean by "style". Colorful, simplistic and unique. It's not about realistic CGI. It's animation and having a distinct visual style is a mark of good animation. Anybody can do cheap crappy CGI.
@4f52
@4f52 4 жыл бұрын
@zztop3000 Sign me up with your kid, I love his art style.
@brianoneil9662
@brianoneil9662 4 жыл бұрын
@@4f52 Right? Kid's a prodigy!
@jean-rochdion4898
@jean-rochdion4898 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job!!! I live 6 years in a Vauban forteress!!! We allways talk about that subject!!
@hotsprinkles
@hotsprinkles 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! The detail, actual use of photos, and a non-boring format are the difference between having a good time on KZbin and accidentally zoning out every 45secs!!
@Fg795yt
@Fg795yt 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro was having some trouble fight this dudes fortress so I just hopped in my time machine and watched this
@Thraim.
@Thraim. 4 жыл бұрын
I would ask a question here, but this video was so in depth that everything was answered already.
@johnpotter4750
@johnpotter4750 3 жыл бұрын
Where's the B.P. stores and trackways to bring forth, plus firelocks guard to strip them of combustibles. A very real Danger.
@deutschamerikaner
@deutschamerikaner 4 жыл бұрын
I love to hear about 16th and 17th century warfare. It is a very unique topic and you do a good job showing it.
@philRminiatures
@philRminiatures 4 жыл бұрын
Just painting my Renaissance army today, your super video is a first class break... Gorgeous!
@galshaine2018
@galshaine2018 4 жыл бұрын
One of the last battles of the Great War, Nov. 4th 1918, was ironically a modern 'siege' (or... Breach of) the Star fortress city of Le Quesnoy in France by the New Zealanders and against the German army. A very interesting read, and combat action.
@TR-ru7wl
@TR-ru7wl 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, was a good read
@patrichausammann
@patrichausammann 4 жыл бұрын
15:28 They often did not only set the pillars on fire, they rather made a big fire below the fortification, for example with wood and animal fat to make the structure collapse. The result was anyway that the wooden pillars caught fire too. I guess gun powder worked a bit faster, but was also more expensive. As I know, the defenders used kettles filled with water to see where the enemy was digging such mines.
@thetriumphofthethrill2457
@thetriumphofthethrill2457 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best and most informative videos I've seen on the topic. Good graphics and animation, engaging narrator and the right amount of knowledge. Well-done.
@LudietHistoria
@LudietHistoria 4 жыл бұрын
Anither great video from my favorite youtuber!
@lavtekk2086
@lavtekk2086 4 жыл бұрын
10:00 that poor hanging dude at the right
@grondhero
@grondhero 3 жыл бұрын
Nice catch.
@nabucodonosor2
@nabucodonosor2 4 жыл бұрын
As an historian and a philosopher I enjoy a lot your channel. Specially the inclusion of a conceptual framework to talk about the past, one of the few channels to do that. Kudos to the SandRhoman Team!
@SandRhomanHistory
@SandRhomanHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the comment. We appreciate your words a lot! It's so nice when people notice and value the effort that goes into the vids :)
@armymonsterdeusvult.2548
@armymonsterdeusvult.2548 4 жыл бұрын
Wow this channel is going to absolutely explode.
@thomasmuntzer684
@thomasmuntzer684 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Renaissance warfare getting the attention it deserves. Just subscribed.
@alexanderjim9301
@alexanderjim9301 4 жыл бұрын
"Artillery adds dignity to what would otherwise be a vulger brawl" Otto Von Bismarck
@loganb7059
@loganb7059 3 жыл бұрын
Oof that quote aged like milk when WW1 started
@johnpotter4750
@johnpotter4750 3 жыл бұрын
Do you kill the oxen once in siege position, Food. Then hire new oxen when the commander payments cease. Always a risk for the hired gun.
@ColoradoStreaming
@ColoradoStreaming 3 жыл бұрын
"The artillery conquers, the infantry occupies." -General Phillippe Pétain
@johnpotter4750
@johnpotter4750 3 жыл бұрын
@@ColoradoStreaming Wrong Century....
@kamilszadkowski8864
@kamilszadkowski8864 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe in the future, you could make a video that dwells deeper into the topic of early modern fortifications? You know, how different styles came into existence and evolved, like the old-Italian style evolved into new-Italian and so on?
@Edekje
@Edekje 3 жыл бұрын
I live right next to the fully preserved Naarden star fortress. Whenever I go running on its walls, I always imagine it being sieged!
@noahkidd3359
@noahkidd3359 4 жыл бұрын
I love these animations!
@crypt0sFX
@crypt0sFX 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine spending 21 years of your life taking down one fort. Honestly worth it.
@Mr.green1197
@Mr.green1197 4 жыл бұрын
This video reminded me of the siege of Vienna by the ottomans , especially the idea of digging under the city to destroy the walls.
@christianweibrecht6555
@christianweibrecht6555 4 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the extra credits series on that?
@juanzulu1318
@juanzulu1318 4 жыл бұрын
Digging under the walls was already known and done in the middle ages.
@HighKingBob
@HighKingBob 4 жыл бұрын
Juan Zulu since ancient times
@heckleypanes4988
@heckleypanes4988 4 жыл бұрын
Its a desperate race against the Mines and a race against time THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED
@SuperNintendawg
@SuperNintendawg 4 жыл бұрын
Sapping! A common tactic deployed all over the world. Sometimes you'd have counter-tunnels dug at the same time by the defenders. Skirmishes underground were terrifying due to cramped conditions and lack of light. Cave-ins could happen at any time. This was not an enviable job.
@pashauzan
@pashauzan 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I was struggling to siege cities, I just want to take some foods and they closed the cities and called us bandits. This video helped me take the food! 10/10
@dd11111
@dd11111 4 жыл бұрын
That was a great video, informative, entertaining and with an interesting art style and animations. You sir, have gained a subscriber.
@SandRhomanHistory
@SandRhomanHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Very much Appreciated.
@chrism7395
@chrism7395 3 жыл бұрын
Plymouth, UK had/has (they're unfortunately in varying states of restoration) a massive network of smaller star forts and redoubts built around it. Along it's northern (landward) edge alone there were at least 9 forts and redoubts that were designed to provide flanking fire on one another if any were attacked, with trench works and a covered military road (thought to now follow Crownhill Road and Fort Austin Avenue) connecting them so reinforcements could quickly move between them. Many of them were still used up to WW2 as anti aircraft batteries or billets for American GIs prior to D Day. In fact, one of the Blockhouses in Crownhill Fort has chunks missing from its internal roof where GIs used the rooms to practice grenade drill. Add to that fortifications on Rame Head and Staddon Heights and it must've been an incredible undertaking to build them all. Apparently, the Royal Artillery Regiment surveyed Crownhill Fort and said that, even today, it'd be a hard target to capture without levelling it!
@paulosabib
@paulosabib 4 жыл бұрын
What was generally more expensive? A very long siege (like 20 years one, quoted in the video) or the build plus the maintenance of a fortress to resist such a long siege?
@pikeshotBattles
@pikeshotBattles 4 жыл бұрын
A fortification was nothing more than a force multiplier. IE. the defender also had to maintain an army inside the fort in order to make it effective. So it's hard to say what was more expensive. Since most such fortifications were built around preexisting cities, the government could always share the building costs with the cities, whereas besieging a fortification was almost always the job of the government. Taking this into count, yes we can say it might have been cheaper to build than to besiege.
@kamilszadkowski8864
@kamilszadkowski8864 4 жыл бұрын
Both were very expensive but of course, building and maintaining such fortress would, in the end, pay back more than investing your resources to take such a fortress. It has to be pointed out however that such long sieges were the exception and not the rule.
@Inquisitor_Vex
@Inquisitor_Vex 4 жыл бұрын
Though if you consider that a single fortress might withstand multiple sieges. It then pays for itself several times over.
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 4 жыл бұрын
Besieged cities were almost always of great strategic importance. So the saying "whatever it takes" applies. If the city was a financial and/or economical hub, saving the city would guarantuee the defense would pay for itself.
@barthoving2053
@barthoving2053 4 жыл бұрын
Fortress were general only maintained at times of war. There are plenty of stories of fortresses and cities not getting there defenses repaired and updated in time. I think you generally needed a 10 to 1 ratio to besiege a fortress, plus you build your own fortifications on much larger scale, which would offset the cost any lower quality of those defenses would bring. The cost for the besieger would be much higher. Only if a large front needed to be protect with several specific build and maintained fortresses the costs for the defenders might be higher. As the other forts still needed to be maintained if siege was laid to one of them. And the loss of one fort might make the other strategically useless and actually only tie up resources. Of course for cities under siege the most expensive thing is the indirect losses caused by lack access to their surrounding lands and trade and the damage the siege and counter-siege operations to it and the city itself.The Austrian/Spanish Netherlands got in an economic decline because of continuous being invaded. So for a prosperous city to have strong enough defense important as to deter an attack in the first place is already a win. The siege generally only started if the attacker was sure he could win, because of the cost.
@WeaslyTwin
@WeaslyTwin 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! John Lynn was actually my college professor at U of I! I loved his class. What a surprise to see him again.
@gabrielvanhauten4169
@gabrielvanhauten4169 4 жыл бұрын
I m just a min in but bruuh this looks like a treat.
@ramO-jp8tp
@ramO-jp8tp 4 жыл бұрын
Bruuuuhhh fr bruh
@botondhetyey159
@botondhetyey159 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, a tutorial about stuff I can really use in my everyday life.
@AdamNoizer
@AdamNoizer 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Indeed mining/sapping under the walls ⛏ was a very useful strategy. It often helped the attackers to destroy city walls without suffering as many casualties. But it was a long process and as shown by the siege on Vienna in 1683, ran on borrowed time and gave the defenders more time to gather a relief force.
@Perzyn
@Perzyn 4 жыл бұрын
Just the tutorial I've been looking for! You guys are lifesavers!
@Brakvash
@Brakvash 4 жыл бұрын
"Laying siege to a Star Fortress in the 16-17th Century" This is what inspired Warhammer 40K...
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 4 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck you made a Warhammer reference! That's so fresh and hot, and not totally worn the fuck out now for years and years.
@corvusboreus2072
@corvusboreus2072 4 жыл бұрын
The ranges of weapons in Warhammer 40k were also based upon 16th century firearms.
@SirPano85
@SirPano85 4 жыл бұрын
@@Commodore22345 You're right, but CA made the things different by making TW: Warhammer 1 & 2 and in the military story community it often happens. But you still are right... ;-D
@TheGodEmperorOfMankind_
@TheGodEmperorOfMankind_ 4 жыл бұрын
Hey as long as they don't crash the Star Fortress on the planet
@patrioticwhitemail9119
@patrioticwhitemail9119 4 жыл бұрын
@@slappy8941 You people are toxic. What the hell. Just because something isn't new to you doesn't mean it isn't new to someone else. Someone coming across fantasy warfare and discovering that it came from history doesn't make him a nerd, it makes him curious. By you logic, I bet my mortgaged home that you are also a fucking nerd. You saw swords in cartoons being wielded by space warriors before you saw one in real life you fucking no-life geek. Get over yourself.
@jbtacticus
@jbtacticus 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, nice to see some good use of sources! Also love your pronunciation of Dutch names, especially Geertruidenberg :P.
@SandRhomanHistory
@SandRhomanHistory 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@adjectivenomad
@adjectivenomad 3 жыл бұрын
1.1million people: “hmm yes this is exactly what I need!”
@idealicfool
@idealicfool 4 жыл бұрын
I think I have found another in depth and well informed history channel I can enjoy. You sir, have earnt yourself a subscriber.
@idealicfool
@idealicfool 4 жыл бұрын
Ngl but, was kinda hoping he would mention Badajoz
@maanvis81
@maanvis81 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not used to seeing mountains in the background when types of dutch and flemish siege tactics are discussed ;). Ostend and geertruidenberg are very much surrounded by flat land and venlo has very small hills at best. Thanks for the informative lesson nonetheless!
@thhseeking
@thhseeking 4 жыл бұрын
Very much the kind of country in Brel's "Mijn vlaake land" :P Of course, he was Bruxellois...it's a bit less "vlaake" in the south :P
@petermuller608
@petermuller608 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a tutorial I can apply to my day-to-day live!
@willotter4503
@willotter4503 4 жыл бұрын
15:42, those water physics r amazing
@lillyanneserrelio2187
@lillyanneserrelio2187 4 жыл бұрын
His entire video is amazing
@UnTotal1-Requess
@UnTotal1-Requess Жыл бұрын
Tysm I really needed this. I was worried I was under prepared or wouldn't do it correctly. Now I can lay siege to my neighbor's star fortress. Thank you.
@machofriz857
@machofriz857 4 жыл бұрын
0:31 Holy shit that spear guy rekt the knight so hard that the knight shattered.
@ianraffaele3993
@ianraffaele3993 3 жыл бұрын
Professor John Lynn was my history professor at UIUC 20 years ago. Great teacher.
@SandRhomanHistory
@SandRhomanHistory 3 жыл бұрын
you're lucky to have had such a brilliant mind as a teacher
@bernlack
@bernlack 4 жыл бұрын
Its like someone took the books in the school library history section and used all of its art in a video
@Btfvt
@Btfvt 2 жыл бұрын
Worked very well, took prague in a few days.
@TechnologicZb
@TechnologicZb 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video on how these armies kept themselves supplied and what their sanitation policies were.
@G1ennbeckismyher0
@G1ennbeckismyher0 4 жыл бұрын
Finally! Its about time somebody uploaded this. I hate when star fortresses impede me from getting to work in the morning.
@Kitties_are_pretty
@Kitties_are_pretty 4 жыл бұрын
13:43 War is truly hell. Never forget.
@Ranstone
@Ranstone 4 жыл бұрын
XD
@arhumzia6360
@arhumzia6360 4 жыл бұрын
No in hell no one is innocent war is worse
@samxyx
@samxyx 3 жыл бұрын
This information will come in handy some day
@jakehughes6087
@jakehughes6087 4 жыл бұрын
A Loyal Sub
@thepoglin8479
@thepoglin8479 3 жыл бұрын
this man is god to both history teachers and really bored people during quarantine
@clintmoor422
@clintmoor422 4 жыл бұрын
just what i needed in my self isolation, thank you. the stronghold of constantiople was way stronger though
@SultanOfAwesomeness
@SultanOfAwesomeness 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Williams I mean all things considered, yeah, it did survive quite long against artillery. While the walls were weakened by it, the city was taken in the end by storm, and even then, they got in through an older section of the wall that wasn’t as up to par with the rest. That’s not to say that cannons didn’t help, but the fact that the Ottomans began extensive sapping in addition to doing that whole maneuver with moving their ships over land to blockade the city by sea indicates that simply using artillery wasn’t doing much.
@IPFreelly604
@IPFreelly604 4 жыл бұрын
Constantinople was an inside job
@mondaysinsanity8193
@mondaysinsanity8193 4 жыл бұрын
@CipiRipi00 wait what how does a dude beseiging constantinople end up a saint
@Nero-ho6gt
@Nero-ho6gt 4 жыл бұрын
@@mondaysinsanity8193 According to their wording, the gate is named the Gate of St. Romanus.
@sgpros8084
@sgpros8084 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guide! I’m going to try this on my neighbors house tomorrow!
@noemiekramer7699
@noemiekramer7699 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work! this topic is very complex indeed... It must have been incredibly terrifying and wearing to fight and dig between the artillery of both sides, hiding in muddy trenches for days and weeks...
@matthewfoster3379
@matthewfoster3379 2 жыл бұрын
John Lynn was my professor at the University of Illinois. He is an amazing military history professor....I didn’t miss a class.
@4v50r14no
@4v50r14no 3 жыл бұрын
Took me 16 minutes to realize this wasnt a total war tutorial
@rogersledz6793
@rogersledz6793 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!
@daca8395
@daca8395 4 жыл бұрын
7:09 oh I see! Caesar, are you having a lough from beyond the grave?
@aidanking6801
@aidanking6801 3 жыл бұрын
Never have I thought that I would be watching and enjoying a video that would only be relevant in the 1600’s
@iagohauchi3694
@iagohauchi3694 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! well explained :) Meanwhile in our current time (more so in the cold war era), empires can siege entire countries with embargoes and sanctions, depriving them of strategic resources, like Iran, Venezuela or Palestine... Or with soft war, tiring down opposition with well placed riots and popular demonstrations... In the end, war never changes, it's about economic resources to make it worth the cost or not.
@WS-le4dv
@WS-le4dv 4 жыл бұрын
So you just spent a fortune building a fortress around a fortress and finally, FINALLY you've taken it. What happens to all those trenches? That's what I want to know.
@ГенадийСамобранцев
@ГенадийСамобранцев 4 жыл бұрын
u get besieged by enemies from your own fortress fortress
@Mrdevs96
@Mrdevs96 4 жыл бұрын
@@ГенадийСамобранцев lol two fortresses for the price of one
@d-rangatang5294
@d-rangatang5294 4 жыл бұрын
They double as the graves for all the men you used to take it
@mariosebastiani3214
@mariosebastiani3214 4 жыл бұрын
@@d-rangatang5294 That's actually a good idea
@samuelbunkly2527
@samuelbunkly2527 4 жыл бұрын
If the fortress is worth keeping, it provides a good outter defence ring to protect the newly captured fortress.
@spaggotyee5466
@spaggotyee5466 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a tutorial I can use in every day life
@saltycabbge1354
@saltycabbge1354 4 жыл бұрын
nice
@ikealamp53
@ikealamp53 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that they dug mines and countermines and even had melee battles in near dark is astonishing. If only their was a way to witness such things as they happened.
@DinnerForkTongue
@DinnerForkTongue Жыл бұрын
The soldiers of that time really were built different.
@roberth1328
@roberth1328 4 жыл бұрын
0:30 damn that dude's halberd has a Thanos snap
@jamesdowell5268
@jamesdowell5268 3 жыл бұрын
Really helpful DIY video!
@Darkestestmatter
@Darkestestmatter 4 жыл бұрын
Sieges are hard? Laughs in Death Korps of Krieg ;) P.S.: Your presentation i getting better and better which each isntallment. Thumbs up.
@peterthepeter7523
@peterthepeter7523 4 жыл бұрын
Sure, sieges are easy for these pros - they just need to waste almost 20 years and 14 million soldiers to win. Easy peasy.
@bloodrave9578
@bloodrave9578 4 жыл бұрын
@@peterthepeter7523 All worthy sacrifices to the God Emperor
@christophermcguire7888
@christophermcguire7888 4 жыл бұрын
Without siege guns or a corps of engineers from Badajoz to San Sebastian I refer you to the peninsula campaign.
@cnlbenmc
@cnlbenmc 4 жыл бұрын
+@@peterthepeter7523+ To be Fair; Vraks was an absolute nightmare to attack; mix the Maginot Line, Atlantic Wall and Seigfried Line together and you get some idea what the Kreigers had to deal with plus with massive shield generator arrays and planetary defense lasers to boot. Nothing short of an exterminatus would have been able to neutralise it in short order or maybe 5000 Space Marines attacking all at once.
@wetdroidedition2549
@wetdroidedition2549 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing work, good production.
@notsmoothie
@notsmoothie 4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the famous Julius "Build a Wall" Caesar.
@SovietReunionYT
@SovietReunionYT 4 жыл бұрын
This is so fascinating! Until now I've had only a vague idea of post-medieval sieges despite being interested in military history.
@ploptart4649
@ploptart4649 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to bullet point this under "Soft Skills" on my résumé
@darrenmcdowell262
@darrenmcdowell262 2 жыл бұрын
Found this while falling through the star fort rabbit hole. So far they are on every continent and pre-deluvian. Wish me luck!
@CQC_CQC
@CQC_CQC 3 жыл бұрын
*Human before quarantine : Iam going to watch football and netflix *Human 1 year in quarantine : Im going to learn how to siege a star fortress in these difficult times
@reallyhappenings5597
@reallyhappenings5597 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating period of military history for its mix of tactical elements
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