Me at 3am with instant ramen: I wonder how to siege a star fortress
@The_FatGeneral4 жыл бұрын
me rn
@zapanimevideos4 жыл бұрын
BRO literally me rn
@cloud88134 жыл бұрын
^
@vukashin884 жыл бұрын
What do you put into your ramen
@naufalali87044 жыл бұрын
@@vukashin88 medieval education
@ASTRO_NAUTIKAL4 жыл бұрын
Before Quarantine: Who the hell cares about 17th century warfare? Week 6 Quarantine: I must know everything about siege warfare.
@geradosolusyon5114 жыл бұрын
@@ClunFunDun 1 year after the start of quarantine: So infiltrating a government base is this easy....
@David0lyle3 жыл бұрын
No no, I was interested in this before that happened. I just didn’t stay home to look it up.
@yannikoloff76593 жыл бұрын
@@ClunFunDun They did. They was throwing dead animal parts into town with catapults
@alexnovak33193 жыл бұрын
It is our purpose of life to learn those tactics!
@alex2005z3 жыл бұрын
True
@VaeVictisXIII4 жыл бұрын
Glad I saw this, I was really worried about laying siege to my neighbours star fortress, but now i'm more informed than ever! SALLY FORTH!
@crusaderkaiser20004 жыл бұрын
How’d the siege go my man?
@mingpingxie35634 жыл бұрын
I tried it, 0 out of 10. All my equipment and manpower were destroyed in the assault. Don’t try it.
@themanwithallthewrongopini35514 жыл бұрын
0 out of 10, got stalingraded
@liammurphy27253 жыл бұрын
You leave Sally alone. She's a good girl and doesn't need your attention.
@mingpingxie35633 жыл бұрын
@@markdavis7397 A wild star fortress has appeared!
@Rojoyerf4 жыл бұрын
I love how you quote actual historians and do your own historiography rather than simply regurgitating something you read off wikipedia. Keep up the good work!
@artyomarty3914 жыл бұрын
wikipedia has quotes as well. So you can steal those quotes from wiki
@sumoking30024 жыл бұрын
But still manages to be unable to tell the difference between English and British, doh
@ubellubo4 жыл бұрын
@@sumoking3002 The English is the correct term in this context. The Kingdom of Great Britain did not come into being until 1707.
@sumoking30024 жыл бұрын
@@ubellubo the flags
@haileyscomment84743 жыл бұрын
All of this information is on Wikipedia too.. it’s 2021, that’s like insulting somebody for learning from an encyclopedia.. You must be stuck in 2004 or something when anybody can change wiki pages
@JamesBond-fg6bt4 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: the seige lasts so long that the attackers end up building a city around the sieged city to deal with day to day necessities, eventually building a wall around their own city, and that city gets sieged. Siege-ception.
@comradewestov30474 жыл бұрын
So the battle of tralee in that time or alesia in ancient times
@thibaudduhamel25814 жыл бұрын
Pretty much what happened during the siege of Arras where the french army besieging Arras was itself besieged by a spanish army, that itself was then besieged by french reinforcments. Siegeception
@ReapingTheHarvest4 жыл бұрын
There's always a bigger fish... I mean usually.
@parkerjeans57774 жыл бұрын
Did julius caesar do that shit lmao
@zach112414 жыл бұрын
That sounds more like a Siegeducken?
@NakedGeep3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad this got recommended to me. I’m actually laying siege to a star fortress next week, and this has been really helpful! Thanks!
@macgarymusic2 жыл бұрын
How did it go Mr. Cannon?
@celticlad58662 жыл бұрын
I have to defend a star fort next week, now I have a basic idea on how to counter the enemy use these tactics.
@soldiergg1992 жыл бұрын
@@macgarymusic by his lack of reply in past 2 months. He didn't survive. He truly died like a hero. May his country man remember him as brave general who led the besiege.
@macgarymusic2 жыл бұрын
@@soldiergg199 F
@antonioacosta5682 жыл бұрын
Same! Shout-out to historical accuracy
@napolien13104 жыл бұрын
How to do SIEGES!! Me taking notes in these difficult times.
@useodyseeorbitchute94504 жыл бұрын
Stockpiling toilet paper become so mainstream. Good that you are thinking a few steps ahead of others.
@quyenmojos90044 жыл бұрын
Counter-sapper that try to steals your toilet papers and do sorties on your nearest store before you get in any contact.
@dariusw17764 жыл бұрын
I just started fortifying my house to protect the Toilet paper. Come at me, if you want the real siege experience
@Oldschool7474 жыл бұрын
@@dariusw1776 don't care about the tp, but I definitely want that siege experience!
@wolfgangkranek3764 жыл бұрын
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 Don't forget to (stock-)pile the toilet paper in star shape formation!
@raylast38734 жыл бұрын
Julius Caesar: I‘m just gonna counter their walls by building more walls around them. Let‘s see how they like THAT lmao 16th Century tacticians: furious note-taking
@Ezyasnos3 жыл бұрын
That's why it's called the Renaissance (which means rebirth - of the Roman empire, as they envisioned)
@Haannibal7773 жыл бұрын
How to you defeat wall? By building more walls outside it. Then how do you defeat those outside walls? By building further outside walls???
@raylast38733 жыл бұрын
@@Ezyasnos except Caesar did this once, as a gimmick, because his army was smaller than the Gaulish Army. In the post-feudal era, this was the systematically dominant approach to siegecraft.
@agentbarron39453 жыл бұрын
@@raylast3873 Id say up to ww1 or so, just a wall of men instead of stone
@raylast38733 жыл бұрын
@@agentbarron3945 eh...the warfare in WWI was already veeery different. First time there were really continuous fronts and whatnot.
@Heff-Curry4 жыл бұрын
I used to only really read about early-medieval and ancient history, but your channel has single handedly ignited my interest in this time period. You have such consistently great content, very much appreciated.
@nick-qb4fd4 жыл бұрын
Read about the siege of Malta
@eldorados_lost_searcher4 жыл бұрын
It's strange how the transition from Medieval warfare to Early Modern is seriously neglected, but I like how it seems to be attracting more attention now.
@drsnobby8814 жыл бұрын
Lmao most of this isn't about medieval and ancient times. Have you even watched the video?
@eldorados_lost_searcher4 жыл бұрын
@@drsnobby881 He did. And the channel has ignited an interest in the subject. Do you even read, bro?
@DerDoctor694 жыл бұрын
Same here, but for me it was more the modern histroy that was interesting to me
@PrinceOfDolAlmroth4 жыл бұрын
Easily one one of the most informative military history channels I've seen on here. the points are well covered and backed by historians, the visuals are simple yet effectively convey the ideas and subject matter in an entertaining way, and the narration is concise and pleasurable to the ears. If Dovahatty is the meme side of youtube history channels, this is the exact opposite of the spectrum, but still incredibly entertaining.
@andreascovano77424 жыл бұрын
Man, the spanish weren't fooling around at amiens....
@ilo34564 жыл бұрын
There is a reason they once had the largest empire in the world unfortunately they weren't so good at economics, as the downfall of their empire shows.
@nikushamosidze19514 жыл бұрын
@@ilo3456 yes
@DudeWatIsThis4 жыл бұрын
@@ilo3456 People talk as if anyone knew any better back then. This is the 1500s and 1600s, right before people started slowly figuring out "modern economics". The Spanish Empire lasted 200 years as the World's #1 world power. USA has been the dominant world power for 80 years so far, and it has seen 2 great market crashes (3, if you count today's pandemic). The British Empire is usually the one everyone gets compared to, but their hegemony lasted only about 150 years. And yes, they were arguably the best Empire handling their money, BUT, you have to take into account that they had it MUCH easier than anyone else: - Technology allowed it (which the Spanish didn't have). - "Global morality" also allowed it (which the USA have to contend with today). There wasn't the modern conciousness of "hating war/colonialism" that there is today. You could go somewhere, give people smallpox-ridden blankets, install a puppet king, and then grab everything for yourself. Essentially, they were in the right place, at the right time. And by the way, both the British and the Spanish both "hated" slavery, don't get me wrong. Each Empire used its own loopholes to still justify and use it extensively - and the USA would do it as well if they could (and they do, when and where they can).
@MisoElEven4 жыл бұрын
@@DudeWatIsThis I would like to know how they knew that those blankets had smallpox in them when they didnt know anything about bacteria and even less about viruses..they thought that diseases are transmitted through bad smells as far as I know but Im willing to hear you out. (hope I didnt sound agressive, I really would like to know)
@JoshuaKevinPerry4 жыл бұрын
@@DudeWatIsThis Smallpox blankets are historical fiction. We did enslave the Germans after WW2 to rebuild Europe.
@theflyingcatz4 жыл бұрын
Watching this September 15th 1608, really helpful. Captured a french star fort in no-time.
@SandRhomanHistory4 жыл бұрын
good luck!
@user-uy1rg8td1v2 жыл бұрын
@@SandRhomanHistory Great videos and animation style. I do feel your accent does make it hard to understand you. Since your audience is English speaking, I was wondering would you be open to hiring an English voice actor to narrate your videos? That's what the youtube history channel Kings and Generals do, they use a posh English professional voice actor and he does a great job. I would also caution against using background music too loudly or even too much as I feel background music is unnecessary for the middle of the video past the intro music especially since you have a thick accent that makes it harder to understand you.
@mariushunger87554 жыл бұрын
I rather prefer to be quarantined in my living room than caged in a beleaguered city...
@Tridentus4 жыл бұрын
Tough times breed tough kids who turn into tough adults. We're like domesticated dogs if you compare them to their wolf ancestors. If we'd lived in those times we'd be tougher to cope (or be dead I spose).
@Sandouras4 жыл бұрын
They had no internet back then. It must have been horrible!
@brokenbridge63164 жыл бұрын
I'd don't think I'd want to be inside a besieged city either, friend.
@chiefexecutiveaccelerator4 жыл бұрын
you can image your living room as a star fortress then defend it
@cambuurleeuwarden4 жыл бұрын
thats like saying 'I much rather be sleeping in my own warm bed at home than be quartered by four horses'
@herculean6164 жыл бұрын
_Outside the Fortress:_ *Screams, Guns, Explosion* _Inner Fortress_ *Birds chirping, peaceful farming, fortress lasted long enough to put a child into college*
@eldorados_lost_searcher4 жыл бұрын
There is no war in Ba Singh Se.
@qwertyerror6014 жыл бұрын
oh dont worry. the chikd who reached college will now become a new officer, and lead his classmates into a sally forth
@yeet8774 жыл бұрын
Not really. There was only military men in the fortresses, people were living outside them because farming fields as you said were outside the fort. So the whole thing was just a big bunker with barracks and lots of resources to repair with.
@rifkifanani36943 жыл бұрын
@@yeet877 what about a walled city? sure there's proably no farm inside but there are atleast some civilian doing their thing
@yeet8773 жыл бұрын
@@rifkifanani3694 Well a walled city is not a fortress.
@JonatasAdoM4 жыл бұрын
"You are wrong, Total war taught me that the walls were stormed using ropes that come from nowhere"
@jordanfleck51134 жыл бұрын
YES!!
@arcamean7854 жыл бұрын
@nikolai bahtin Or multiple ladders that a single man could put up all at once from no where.
@qwertyerror6014 жыл бұрын
or your peasants climbing the walls while half of them fall off from freindly fire, causing a demoralized troop to get F'd by 45 samurai
@Bruh-hq1hx4 жыл бұрын
That is how samurai sieged stuff throw a rope and fall of it and die due to bad cardio
@T33K3SS3LCH3N4 жыл бұрын
@@qwertyerror601 that was at least a far more realistic scenario than modern TW sieges with the aforementioned Ladders Ex Machina.
@lastword87834 жыл бұрын
Sieging the same fortress for 21 years: OMG im tired of playing this map.
@nilspochat86654 жыл бұрын
Here in France you just have to use the name of Vauban (or an adjectiv made of it and a suffix) to make someone understand you're talking about "star fortress". Even though the guy did not invent this kind of shaped city walls, he engineered most of them or converted them to that kind of fortification, and more. He is THE reference conscerning the fortresses and sieges of that time, *no one here doesn't know about the guy* . After all, he worked with Louis XIV almost for almost the entirety of his reign, quite a long and belligerent one, starting at only 22, and there's so much to say about him it fits to say he's a legend.
@TeutonicEmperor11984 жыл бұрын
He and Coehorn were the masters of star fortification not only by building them but also by finding ways to capture them!
@kamilszadkowski88644 жыл бұрын
I was hoping that they would also mention the Dutch and French styles of building fortifications. From the video, it almost sounds like there was just the Italian style. Although I imagine that time constraints are to blame here. You can only fit so much ina relatively short KZbin video.
@oddballsok4 жыл бұрын
funny to think that when today a nations power is counted in ballistic missiles, in (pre) WW1 in numbers of dreadnoughts, in 16th-17th Century it was counted in fortified cities. Vauban on the french side, and Coehorn on the dutch side working "like mad" (paid by their sovereign leaders) to construct these mathematical perfect shaped fortresses.
@nilswettlin20124 жыл бұрын
Indeed, I live very close to one of vaubans forts (neuf-brisach, close to the German border) it was never conquered in a real battle, the city surrendered once, in the franco Prussian war, when they were out of food
@ТомасАндерсон-в1е4 жыл бұрын
There's a (very mediocre) Russian alt-history book which mentions him
@tim..indeedАй бұрын
This was low-key one of the most sophisticated times of warfare ever. Technological progress was slow, small-scale wars were everywhere and causalities were often low, meaning that many of the soldiers had experience directly in the area like never before.
@pikeshotBattles4 жыл бұрын
Ey, I I was going to do this video in just a couple of months time, but you beat me to it! One thing I would add is that the reason for the wet ditch was so the attacker couldn't dig a tunnel to undermine the bastion. In order to do that they first had to drain the ditch, and that took a lot of time. This is one of the main reasons why it was so hard to take Dutch fortifications, as water was always abundant, and often impossible to drain (as at Antwerp 1584-85). BTW would you be interested in a cooperation? I have a few ideas that might fit your roster.
@evanx3834 жыл бұрын
A worthwhile comment. Tunneling defeated because the tunnel would flood. Clever.
@lamolambda83494 жыл бұрын
I was born in the water raised by it I didn't see dry land until I was already a man.
@SandRhomanHistory4 жыл бұрын
I'll write you an email :)
@rudy1030694 жыл бұрын
@michael dowson all have bs building narrative just like fort prince of wales by church hill manitoba. these where left over building from the antedulvian time. you can still see their grid on google earth.
@justinokraski37964 жыл бұрын
also the defenders can see the water level going down
@leifrobinson61184 жыл бұрын
I was literally 2 seconds into this and I subscribed just from the artwork. My first time seeing your videos. Unbelievable work!
@SandRhomanHistory4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@JamesKerLindsay4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video. Thanks. I lived in Nicosia, Cyprus for many years. A classic example of a star fortress built around a city. The Venetian walls around the Cypriot capital still stand to this day. A really lovely feature of the city.
@SandRhomanHistory4 жыл бұрын
I've visited Nicosia and Cyprus with an Ancient history seminar. We've stayed at Nicosia as well. Amazing Island, amazing history, amazing food and cool people ;)
@JamesKerLindsay4 жыл бұрын
SandRhoman History I lived there for 8 years. Still have family on the island. So many great historical sites - from all eras. Love the channel, by the way! :-)
@Wo0dGlue4 жыл бұрын
The spanish movie Alatriste shows the famous Siege of Breda from the view of the attackers, with some rather gritty trench warfare, matchlock sniper duel and trench crawling. Great historical flick that you can find on youtube
@smithrick70514 жыл бұрын
I live there and never saw it. Gonna find it now tho
@Damo26904 жыл бұрын
"Matchlock sniper duel" wat
@angelopueyygarcia434 жыл бұрын
Damo2690 believe it or not that happened. You have to be very skilled though and extremely lucky.
@WiseSnake4 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention Aragorn is the lead role. lol Looks pretty good so far.
@robertasvaicius44374 жыл бұрын
@@Damo2690 they take turns to 360 no-scope one another until one of them wins.
@alclay86893 жыл бұрын
finally watched after 6 months on my recommended. the back and forth arms race trying to outwit each other was far more fascinating than i thought it would be. nice vid
@miguelmontenegro35204 жыл бұрын
Romans generals: I wonder if in the future people will stop building stuff around the besieged city, it's so unpractical. What great times those shall be. Generals a millennia later: What a beautiful ring of stuff I built around this little town. Look at it.
@wu1ming9shi4 жыл бұрын
Honestly though, even if they didn't knew about the romans like we do today (was the story of Alesia that widely known at the time?) they still would've come to the same conclusion of you had half a brain.
@miguelmontenegro35204 жыл бұрын
@@wu1ming9shi We expect that generals are keen to read ancient warfare books for guidance. Many ancient scrolls survived, mainly in italy, as the schollars from Constantinople fled there.
@wu1ming9shi4 жыл бұрын
@@miguelmontenegro3520 That may indeed be a possibility but it's also likely that it was a logical conclusion.
@miguelmontenegro35204 жыл бұрын
@@wu1ming9shi The thing is: I compared both as a joke, because almost a millennia later they were doing It again
@RagbagMcShag4 жыл бұрын
@@miguelmontenegro3520 is that the medieval equivalent of building a net-deck? :-]
@Yuyu-ox3xl3 жыл бұрын
Girl: He's probably thinking of other women Guy: I wonder how you lay siege to a star fortress?
@PANZERFAUST903 жыл бұрын
Is that a question?
@LuizAlexPhoenix3 жыл бұрын
@@Io-vz2jq I mean, if you are cool with that, more power to you. I ain't kinkshaming people that fantasize about their SO getting gangbanged to the point of projecting on others, but you don't need to tell us about it.
@joehopkins36843 жыл бұрын
cringe
@thedestroyer75304 жыл бұрын
0:31 Mr. Stark i dont feel so good
@jakehughes60874 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@grondhero3 жыл бұрын
Oh, snap!
@stephenday23423 жыл бұрын
@@grondhero I see what you did th....
@CharitonIosifides4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Greetings from Nicosia, Cyprus. That 21 year siege was actually of Chándax (Χάνταξ), which is modern day Heraklion in Crete. The fortifications were first made by the Saracens who just called the place Castle of the Moat (Chantax in Greek). The Venetians just changed Chandax to Cadia and made a huge upgrade to the walls. 40 meters thick and more than 20 meters tall in places. They still stand and they are an impressive sight even today. Unfortunately, and despite it’s modern walls, Nicosia fell easily to the Ottomans in 1578. Famagusta on the other side gave them a black eye. Look it up.
@G1ennbeckismyher04 жыл бұрын
Finally, a helpful tutorial i can use in my everyday life.
@Т1000-м1и2 жыл бұрын
With the rising amounts of this kind of fortification being applied for defence and housing by all kinds of potential opponent military organizations, it has become very important to stay educated on them. Thanks for the fantastic guide on this "real world" medieval RTS game that cool kids play nowadays
@brianoneil96624 жыл бұрын
Seriously, I absolutely LOVE your art style and animation. I already like history but your videos not only look AWESOME, the information and presentation are just fantastic! Kudos sir!
@brianoneil96624 жыл бұрын
@zztop3000 That's what I mean by "style". Colorful, simplistic and unique. It's not about realistic CGI. It's animation and having a distinct visual style is a mark of good animation. Anybody can do cheap crappy CGI.
@4f524 жыл бұрын
@zztop3000 Sign me up with your kid, I love his art style.
@brianoneil96624 жыл бұрын
@@4f52 Right? Kid's a prodigy!
@jean-rochdion48983 жыл бұрын
Nice job!!! I live 6 years in a Vauban forteress!!! We allways talk about that subject!!
@hotsprinkles4 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! The detail, actual use of photos, and a non-boring format are the difference between having a good time on KZbin and accidentally zoning out every 45secs!!
@Fg795yt2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro was having some trouble fight this dudes fortress so I just hopped in my time machine and watched this
@Thraim.4 жыл бұрын
I would ask a question here, but this video was so in depth that everything was answered already.
@johnpotter47503 жыл бұрын
Where's the B.P. stores and trackways to bring forth, plus firelocks guard to strip them of combustibles. A very real Danger.
@deutschamerikaner4 жыл бұрын
I love to hear about 16th and 17th century warfare. It is a very unique topic and you do a good job showing it.
@philRminiatures4 жыл бұрын
Just painting my Renaissance army today, your super video is a first class break... Gorgeous!
@galshaine20184 жыл бұрын
One of the last battles of the Great War, Nov. 4th 1918, was ironically a modern 'siege' (or... Breach of) the Star fortress city of Le Quesnoy in France by the New Zealanders and against the German army. A very interesting read, and combat action.
@TR-ru7wl2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, was a good read
@patrichausammann4 жыл бұрын
15:28 They often did not only set the pillars on fire, they rather made a big fire below the fortification, for example with wood and animal fat to make the structure collapse. The result was anyway that the wooden pillars caught fire too. I guess gun powder worked a bit faster, but was also more expensive. As I know, the defenders used kettles filled with water to see where the enemy was digging such mines.
@thetriumphofthethrill24574 жыл бұрын
One of the best and most informative videos I've seen on the topic. Good graphics and animation, engaging narrator and the right amount of knowledge. Well-done.
@LudietHistoria4 жыл бұрын
Anither great video from my favorite youtuber!
@lavtekk20864 жыл бұрын
10:00 that poor hanging dude at the right
@grondhero3 жыл бұрын
Nice catch.
@nabucodonosor24 жыл бұрын
As an historian and a philosopher I enjoy a lot your channel. Specially the inclusion of a conceptual framework to talk about the past, one of the few channels to do that. Kudos to the SandRhoman Team!
@SandRhomanHistory4 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for the comment. We appreciate your words a lot! It's so nice when people notice and value the effort that goes into the vids :)
@armymonsterdeusvult.25484 жыл бұрын
Wow this channel is going to absolutely explode.
@thomasmuntzer6844 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Renaissance warfare getting the attention it deserves. Just subscribed.
@alexanderjim93014 жыл бұрын
"Artillery adds dignity to what would otherwise be a vulger brawl" Otto Von Bismarck
@loganb70593 жыл бұрын
Oof that quote aged like milk when WW1 started
@johnpotter47503 жыл бұрын
Do you kill the oxen once in siege position, Food. Then hire new oxen when the commander payments cease. Always a risk for the hired gun.
@ColoradoStreaming3 жыл бұрын
"The artillery conquers, the infantry occupies." -General Phillippe Pétain
@johnpotter47503 жыл бұрын
@@ColoradoStreaming Wrong Century....
@kamilszadkowski88644 жыл бұрын
Maybe in the future, you could make a video that dwells deeper into the topic of early modern fortifications? You know, how different styles came into existence and evolved, like the old-Italian style evolved into new-Italian and so on?
@Edekje3 жыл бұрын
I live right next to the fully preserved Naarden star fortress. Whenever I go running on its walls, I always imagine it being sieged!
@noahkidd33594 жыл бұрын
I love these animations!
@crypt0sFX3 жыл бұрын
Imagine spending 21 years of your life taking down one fort. Honestly worth it.
@Mr.green11974 жыл бұрын
This video reminded me of the siege of Vienna by the ottomans , especially the idea of digging under the city to destroy the walls.
@christianweibrecht65554 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the extra credits series on that?
@juanzulu13184 жыл бұрын
Digging under the walls was already known and done in the middle ages.
@HighKingBob4 жыл бұрын
Juan Zulu since ancient times
@heckleypanes49884 жыл бұрын
Its a desperate race against the Mines and a race against time THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED
@SuperNintendawg4 жыл бұрын
Sapping! A common tactic deployed all over the world. Sometimes you'd have counter-tunnels dug at the same time by the defenders. Skirmishes underground were terrifying due to cramped conditions and lack of light. Cave-ins could happen at any time. This was not an enviable job.
@pashauzan3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I was struggling to siege cities, I just want to take some foods and they closed the cities and called us bandits. This video helped me take the food! 10/10
@dd111114 жыл бұрын
That was a great video, informative, entertaining and with an interesting art style and animations. You sir, have gained a subscriber.
@SandRhomanHistory4 жыл бұрын
Very much Appreciated.
@chrism73953 жыл бұрын
Plymouth, UK had/has (they're unfortunately in varying states of restoration) a massive network of smaller star forts and redoubts built around it. Along it's northern (landward) edge alone there were at least 9 forts and redoubts that were designed to provide flanking fire on one another if any were attacked, with trench works and a covered military road (thought to now follow Crownhill Road and Fort Austin Avenue) connecting them so reinforcements could quickly move between them. Many of them were still used up to WW2 as anti aircraft batteries or billets for American GIs prior to D Day. In fact, one of the Blockhouses in Crownhill Fort has chunks missing from its internal roof where GIs used the rooms to practice grenade drill. Add to that fortifications on Rame Head and Staddon Heights and it must've been an incredible undertaking to build them all. Apparently, the Royal Artillery Regiment surveyed Crownhill Fort and said that, even today, it'd be a hard target to capture without levelling it!
@paulosabib4 жыл бұрын
What was generally more expensive? A very long siege (like 20 years one, quoted in the video) or the build plus the maintenance of a fortress to resist such a long siege?
@pikeshotBattles4 жыл бұрын
A fortification was nothing more than a force multiplier. IE. the defender also had to maintain an army inside the fort in order to make it effective. So it's hard to say what was more expensive. Since most such fortifications were built around preexisting cities, the government could always share the building costs with the cities, whereas besieging a fortification was almost always the job of the government. Taking this into count, yes we can say it might have been cheaper to build than to besiege.
@kamilszadkowski88644 жыл бұрын
Both were very expensive but of course, building and maintaining such fortress would, in the end, pay back more than investing your resources to take such a fortress. It has to be pointed out however that such long sieges were the exception and not the rule.
@Inquisitor_Vex4 жыл бұрын
Though if you consider that a single fortress might withstand multiple sieges. It then pays for itself several times over.
@AudieHolland4 жыл бұрын
Besieged cities were almost always of great strategic importance. So the saying "whatever it takes" applies. If the city was a financial and/or economical hub, saving the city would guarantuee the defense would pay for itself.
@barthoving20534 жыл бұрын
Fortress were general only maintained at times of war. There are plenty of stories of fortresses and cities not getting there defenses repaired and updated in time. I think you generally needed a 10 to 1 ratio to besiege a fortress, plus you build your own fortifications on much larger scale, which would offset the cost any lower quality of those defenses would bring. The cost for the besieger would be much higher. Only if a large front needed to be protect with several specific build and maintained fortresses the costs for the defenders might be higher. As the other forts still needed to be maintained if siege was laid to one of them. And the loss of one fort might make the other strategically useless and actually only tie up resources. Of course for cities under siege the most expensive thing is the indirect losses caused by lack access to their surrounding lands and trade and the damage the siege and counter-siege operations to it and the city itself.The Austrian/Spanish Netherlands got in an economic decline because of continuous being invaded. So for a prosperous city to have strong enough defense important as to deter an attack in the first place is already a win. The siege generally only started if the attacker was sure he could win, because of the cost.
@WeaslyTwin3 жыл бұрын
Hey! John Lynn was actually my college professor at U of I! I loved his class. What a surprise to see him again.
@gabrielvanhauten41694 жыл бұрын
I m just a min in but bruuh this looks like a treat.
@ramO-jp8tp4 жыл бұрын
Bruuuuhhh fr bruh
@botondhetyey1592 жыл бұрын
Finally, a tutorial about stuff I can really use in my everyday life.
@AdamNoizer4 жыл бұрын
Yep. Indeed mining/sapping under the walls ⛏ was a very useful strategy. It often helped the attackers to destroy city walls without suffering as many casualties. But it was a long process and as shown by the siege on Vienna in 1683, ran on borrowed time and gave the defenders more time to gather a relief force.
@Perzyn4 жыл бұрын
Just the tutorial I've been looking for! You guys are lifesavers!
@Brakvash4 жыл бұрын
"Laying siege to a Star Fortress in the 16-17th Century" This is what inspired Warhammer 40K...
@slappy89414 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck you made a Warhammer reference! That's so fresh and hot, and not totally worn the fuck out now for years and years.
@corvusboreus20724 жыл бұрын
The ranges of weapons in Warhammer 40k were also based upon 16th century firearms.
@SirPano854 жыл бұрын
@@Commodore22345 You're right, but CA made the things different by making TW: Warhammer 1 & 2 and in the military story community it often happens. But you still are right... ;-D
@TheGodEmperorOfMankind_4 жыл бұрын
Hey as long as they don't crash the Star Fortress on the planet
@patrioticwhitemail91194 жыл бұрын
@@slappy8941 You people are toxic. What the hell. Just because something isn't new to you doesn't mean it isn't new to someone else. Someone coming across fantasy warfare and discovering that it came from history doesn't make him a nerd, it makes him curious. By you logic, I bet my mortgaged home that you are also a fucking nerd. You saw swords in cartoons being wielded by space warriors before you saw one in real life you fucking no-life geek. Get over yourself.
@jbtacticus4 жыл бұрын
Great video, nice to see some good use of sources! Also love your pronunciation of Dutch names, especially Geertruidenberg :P.
@SandRhomanHistory4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@adjectivenomad3 жыл бұрын
1.1million people: “hmm yes this is exactly what I need!”
@idealicfool4 жыл бұрын
I think I have found another in depth and well informed history channel I can enjoy. You sir, have earnt yourself a subscriber.
@idealicfool4 жыл бұрын
Ngl but, was kinda hoping he would mention Badajoz
@maanvis814 жыл бұрын
I'm not used to seeing mountains in the background when types of dutch and flemish siege tactics are discussed ;). Ostend and geertruidenberg are very much surrounded by flat land and venlo has very small hills at best. Thanks for the informative lesson nonetheless!
@thhseeking4 жыл бұрын
Very much the kind of country in Brel's "Mijn vlaake land" :P Of course, he was Bruxellois...it's a bit less "vlaake" in the south :P
@petermuller6083 жыл бұрын
Finally a tutorial I can apply to my day-to-day live!
@willotter45034 жыл бұрын
15:42, those water physics r amazing
@lillyanneserrelio21874 жыл бұрын
His entire video is amazing
@UnTotal1-Requess Жыл бұрын
Tysm I really needed this. I was worried I was under prepared or wouldn't do it correctly. Now I can lay siege to my neighbor's star fortress. Thank you.
@machofriz8574 жыл бұрын
0:31 Holy shit that spear guy rekt the knight so hard that the knight shattered.
@ianraffaele39933 жыл бұрын
Professor John Lynn was my history professor at UIUC 20 years ago. Great teacher.
@SandRhomanHistory3 жыл бұрын
you're lucky to have had such a brilliant mind as a teacher
@bernlack4 жыл бұрын
Its like someone took the books in the school library history section and used all of its art in a video
@Btfvt2 жыл бұрын
Worked very well, took prague in a few days.
@TechnologicZb4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video on how these armies kept themselves supplied and what their sanitation policies were.
@G1ennbeckismyher04 жыл бұрын
Finally! Its about time somebody uploaded this. I hate when star fortresses impede me from getting to work in the morning.
@Kitties_are_pretty4 жыл бұрын
13:43 War is truly hell. Never forget.
@Ranstone4 жыл бұрын
XD
@arhumzia63604 жыл бұрын
No in hell no one is innocent war is worse
@samxyx3 жыл бұрын
This information will come in handy some day
@jakehughes60874 жыл бұрын
A Loyal Sub
@thepoglin84793 жыл бұрын
this man is god to both history teachers and really bored people during quarantine
@clintmoor4224 жыл бұрын
just what i needed in my self isolation, thank you. the stronghold of constantiople was way stronger though
@SultanOfAwesomeness4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Williams I mean all things considered, yeah, it did survive quite long against artillery. While the walls were weakened by it, the city was taken in the end by storm, and even then, they got in through an older section of the wall that wasn’t as up to par with the rest. That’s not to say that cannons didn’t help, but the fact that the Ottomans began extensive sapping in addition to doing that whole maneuver with moving their ships over land to blockade the city by sea indicates that simply using artillery wasn’t doing much.
@IPFreelly6044 жыл бұрын
Constantinople was an inside job
@mondaysinsanity81934 жыл бұрын
@CipiRipi00 wait what how does a dude beseiging constantinople end up a saint
@Nero-ho6gt4 жыл бұрын
@@mondaysinsanity8193 According to their wording, the gate is named the Gate of St. Romanus.
@sgpros80843 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guide! I’m going to try this on my neighbors house tomorrow!
@noemiekramer76994 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work! this topic is very complex indeed... It must have been incredibly terrifying and wearing to fight and dig between the artillery of both sides, hiding in muddy trenches for days and weeks...
@matthewfoster33792 жыл бұрын
John Lynn was my professor at the University of Illinois. He is an amazing military history professor....I didn’t miss a class.
@4v50r14no3 жыл бұрын
Took me 16 minutes to realize this wasnt a total war tutorial
@rogersledz67932 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!
@daca83954 жыл бұрын
7:09 oh I see! Caesar, are you having a lough from beyond the grave?
@aidanking68013 жыл бұрын
Never have I thought that I would be watching and enjoying a video that would only be relevant in the 1600’s
@iagohauchi36944 жыл бұрын
Great video! well explained :) Meanwhile in our current time (more so in the cold war era), empires can siege entire countries with embargoes and sanctions, depriving them of strategic resources, like Iran, Venezuela or Palestine... Or with soft war, tiring down opposition with well placed riots and popular demonstrations... In the end, war never changes, it's about economic resources to make it worth the cost or not.
@WS-le4dv4 жыл бұрын
So you just spent a fortune building a fortress around a fortress and finally, FINALLY you've taken it. What happens to all those trenches? That's what I want to know.
@ГенадийСамобранцев4 жыл бұрын
u get besieged by enemies from your own fortress fortress
@Mrdevs964 жыл бұрын
@@ГенадийСамобранцев lol two fortresses for the price of one
@d-rangatang52944 жыл бұрын
They double as the graves for all the men you used to take it
@mariosebastiani32144 жыл бұрын
@@d-rangatang5294 That's actually a good idea
@samuelbunkly25274 жыл бұрын
If the fortress is worth keeping, it provides a good outter defence ring to protect the newly captured fortress.
@spaggotyee54663 жыл бұрын
Finally a tutorial I can use in every day life
@saltycabbge13544 жыл бұрын
nice
@ikealamp532 жыл бұрын
The fact that they dug mines and countermines and even had melee battles in near dark is astonishing. If only their was a way to witness such things as they happened.
@DinnerForkTongue Жыл бұрын
The soldiers of that time really were built different.
@roberth13284 жыл бұрын
0:30 damn that dude's halberd has a Thanos snap
@jamesdowell52683 жыл бұрын
Really helpful DIY video!
@Darkestestmatter4 жыл бұрын
Sieges are hard? Laughs in Death Korps of Krieg ;) P.S.: Your presentation i getting better and better which each isntallment. Thumbs up.
@peterthepeter75234 жыл бұрын
Sure, sieges are easy for these pros - they just need to waste almost 20 years and 14 million soldiers to win. Easy peasy.
@bloodrave95784 жыл бұрын
@@peterthepeter7523 All worthy sacrifices to the God Emperor
@christophermcguire78884 жыл бұрын
Without siege guns or a corps of engineers from Badajoz to San Sebastian I refer you to the peninsula campaign.
@cnlbenmc4 жыл бұрын
+@@peterthepeter7523+ To be Fair; Vraks was an absolute nightmare to attack; mix the Maginot Line, Atlantic Wall and Seigfried Line together and you get some idea what the Kreigers had to deal with plus with massive shield generator arrays and planetary defense lasers to boot. Nothing short of an exterminatus would have been able to neutralise it in short order or maybe 5000 Space Marines attacking all at once.
@wetdroidedition25494 жыл бұрын
Amazing work, good production.
@notsmoothie4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the famous Julius "Build a Wall" Caesar.
@SovietReunionYT4 жыл бұрын
This is so fascinating! Until now I've had only a vague idea of post-medieval sieges despite being interested in military history.
@ploptart46493 жыл бұрын
I'm going to bullet point this under "Soft Skills" on my résumé
@darrenmcdowell2622 жыл бұрын
Found this while falling through the star fort rabbit hole. So far they are on every continent and pre-deluvian. Wish me luck!
@CQC_CQC3 жыл бұрын
*Human before quarantine : Iam going to watch football and netflix *Human 1 year in quarantine : Im going to learn how to siege a star fortress in these difficult times
@reallyhappenings55973 жыл бұрын
Fascinating period of military history for its mix of tactical elements