How to let go of pain & experience inner peace - Interview with Michael Singer

We all carry a wounded part within us that thinks it has to protect itself. But every painful experience holds the potential for healing and love. In this podcast episode, you will learn how to release emotional pain and experience inner peace.
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Life has ups and downs, and we all experience emotional pain at some point. However, suppose we don't acknowledge, integrate, and heal this pain. In that case, we later carry an unconscious part within ourselves that keeps our hearts closed out of "protection".
Do you know the feeling of being unable to play a whole part in life out of fear? Be it in love, work, friendships, or your creative self-expression?
This is precisely where the spiritual path begins!
It is an invitation to say YES to life again.
Are you ready?
In the new podcast interview, I have author, philosopher, and spiritual teacher Michael Singer as my guest, and if there's one thing I can promise you, it's that this conversation goes deep!
Michael is the author of the #1 News York Time bestseller “The Untethered Soul.” He was a guest on Oprah, and I was incredibly honored to interview him on his first non-American podcast.
In this interview, Michael and I talk about spirituality, reality, and the human psyche, and he explains how you can live an unbothered, happy, and free life.
In the interview with Michael Singer, you'll find out …
✨ what spirituality and the spiritual path are all about,
✨ why your perception of reality is not reality,
✨ who you are as a spiritual being,
✨ in which moment you begin to spiritually awaken,
✨ how to release fear & painful experiences, and
✨ what the key to inner peace & freedom is.
00:00-08:21 Michael Singer's definition of spirituality & reality
08:21-15:16 What happens when we store uncomfortable experiences
15:17-24:10 How to handle life
24:11-33:39 The reason we block our hearts
33:40-39:33 Reaching your highest state of being
39:34-45:59 Learning to trust in the unknown
46:00-54:11 Why we cling to material things
54:12-1:01:42 Changing from within & ascending
1:01:43-1:05:51 Life after death
I hope the interview with Michael Singer has inspired you as much as it has me and that you look at life and reality with a new perspective. What helps you to deal with uncomfortable experiences? What was your biggest learning from this episode?
I would love for you to share your thoughts about this episode in the comments below.
Learn more about Michael A. Singer:
New book “Living Untethered: Beyond the Human Predicament”: bit.ly/409Qo9s
Book “The Untethered Soul: The Journey Beyond Yourself”: bit.ly/49a0ZFB
More about Michael A. Singer and his books: bit.ly/3QwNFE0
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[@JP-rb1js]

Michael Singer’s definition of spirituality is spot on! We create our suffering because we want the moment to be something other than what it is.

[@gosia3032]

Exactly 👍👌

[@marystockwell]

For me, I need to go a little deeper than that. Of course I want my reality to be different than it is if it is painful. I don’t see any problem in that. But I think what Michael is saying is let that reality wash over and through you, so when the fire is over, it’s over. And don’t hold it inside of you, but let that reality wash over you and recognize that it hurt, sometimes unbearably, but it is over. And say to yourself, “I can handle it.” The big question is can you handle and release all of your PAST blocks? That’s what I’m trying to figure out. 😢

[@within__]

You can. I think what it takes do that is willingness, compassion and a lot of forgiveness to oneself.

[@donnapierangeli6216]

@@marystockwell I asked God to remove my negative thoughts from the past. I kept asking and asking until I was over it. It works! Scripture says ask and you shall receive.

[@Icomeinpeace2946]

This interview is unbelievable, its hard to believe you didn't follow his teaching your whole life. Your questions, your analogies, your expressions I can feel the connection, the synchronicity of the interview. His answers to you, they fit perfectly like a lock and key. Thank you for the interview, as with all things derived from truth, it will stand unto eternity. 🙏

[@tenbrooks83]

Great thing we're experiencing the same thing more or less in his teaching. It "blows my mind" and verifies we're all one 😍

[@jenniferg6818]

It's not her being a student of his teachings, it's her being a student of spirituality. He just clarified what she knew and articulated it. There is no difference between the two. Namaste.

[@adelenethomas4236]

When The Student Is Ready, The Teacher Appears …..I have followed various teachers for years and I like to dance between them because I find a common message, yet I am encouraged to keep an open perspective. What I find common above all is that spiritual is SIMPLE. What isn’t simple is the work that is required to rewire. And it is difficult for a reason, so that when we sit with that difficult moment, we realize that people are not purposely turning up to cause mayhem, and when we clear the clutter or start the process, we can feel the difference and then be it………..

[@lornapelta-crooks6642]

Thank you for Writing WHEN THE STUDENT IS READY THE TEACHER APPEARS ❤I used to constantly understand the quote and use it often until MY Reality Changed, I won’t go into much detail but the following 10 year period has been all about loss Grief Many changes and challenges that broke me . And my broken heart 💔 after which I am now slowly recovering and awakening to everything I had learnt but because of a brain injury I had forgotten.Any way sorry I do ramble on at times I apologise but Thank you 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@TheWorldTeacher]

Sings: “It ain’t necessarily so...” 🎤

[@emelysterback747]

Forever thankfull...this works

[@waynebraxtonchi]

Laura, YOU ARE AMAZING! Like the comment I see below me, this is the best interview I have ever seen with Michael... and I'm a single man who has been bathing in youtube spiritual messaging for over 3 years... evey day...and I could even estimate how many times I've been drawn to Michael. For me, you are a blessing, a shining light, a fabulous interviewer and tremendously important to our emeging world. Thank you🙂 💌🦉

[@roya5771]

I think this was one of the best interview I have seen from Michael. You are obviously being in the path of spirituality and your conversation was a great package to remind me all the highlights of Michaels teaching . It does not matter if you read any of his book it is all about being here and now . Thanks 🙏❤️

[@tenbrooks83]

Agree. I've watched most everything from him on ytube and he compresses it down in this one a lot more! But digestible also❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@sylviaoesterwinter8858]

This has to be the best interview with Michael Singer that I have ever seen. Thank you from the bottom of my heart to both of you.

[@Tom_ohandley]

Agreed, I’ve watched a lot of his interviews this one is the best.

[@jacksaller9385]

Best interview with Michael I've ever seen. Thank you!!

[@jenniferg6818]

this is the best video I have ever seen of anyone.

[@kylielynn8011]

This man is BRILLIANT!

[@terrybochansky6271]

Thank You Laura & Michael🥰I totally enjoyed this conversation. I listened to it 6 times so far in just a couple of days and will listen again and again. This was the best interview with Michael Singer I have ever listened too, it TOPS them all. "I can handle this" (WOW) what a mantra. Michael's book The Untethered Soul has been my most favorite read, it put all the other ones into perspective. Thank You again from my❤❤❤

[@laura.malina.seiler]

I´m happy to hear that!

[@azizahassan9308]

Micheal talks to my heart directly.

[@azizahassan9308]

I love this man's teaching, I remember the first time I read his book "Surrender Experiment" in 2019 I sobbed like a baby because it touched me deeply. now I'm rereading it again.

[@DaysofSummer_love]

Im here because of Michael Singer. Thank you for this

[@Dumballa]

This is one of the greatest interviews of Michael Singer I have seen. Great job Laura!

[@MarianneVonjohl]

Is witchcraft reality or spirituality. Both are against each other.

[@amandahanisch2446]

@@MarianneVonjohlSpeaking from one who knows both worlds …What he says in this conversation is all. Absolute TRUTH.

[@alil9247]

Beautiful interview! Will listen to this over and over…. We are so very powerful if we just let it be. Thankyou

[@QuietlyCurious]

This conversation got better & better as it went on. Wonderful ❤️🙏

[@tlotus3032]

Wonderful ❤ description of how our hearts are blissed out naturally. Graceful bridge on how to be like those blissed out babies by not protecting our blockages.

[@dessiecoder2116]

Binge watching all the podcasts and have the audio books I listen to while at work. Hopefully it will finally sink in!

[@pierretteroy4847]

This has been the best interview I have ever heard with Micheal Singer.You are a great interviewer Thank you

[@richardharringtonofficial]

I first discovered Michael on Super Soul Sunday which aired 12 years ago! And I have to say that he's only getting better with time, like a fine wine ❤

[@charmjasmi]

i have been listening to Michael Singer for many months now.I am so glad that I enjoyed and learnt from your this interview especially his answers and saying from the last session. it was great. Thanks both of you. listening to him helps me understand the higher levels to the meaning of vicissitudes which every human goes through in life, taught by Buddha.

[@Pr3stss]

This interview was a delight to listen to. I have so much to think through and implement in my life. Thank you Michael and Laura, SO much. ❤

[@fz1bureau]

The most incredible interaction I have yet to find! I am speechless with these two gifted and amazing souls.

[@anthonyh3892]

@Laura: Deine Interviews mit internationalen Gästen sind wirklich phänomenal! ✨

[@vaskogeorgiev7359]

Fantastic deep communication ❤Real stuff 🙏

[@livkristineespens2154]

This truly is wisdom for life. Its so deep, so visual, so precious. THANK YOU🙏🏻🤍

[@donnapierangeli6216]

Thank you so much Michael, your interview was just what I needed when I needed it. It was heaven sent wisdom for sure.❤❤🎉🎉love both of you.

[@morganwilson7253]

Omg this was an aaamazing interview. I really needed these reminders. I adore Michael and The Untethered Soul! Thank you both ❤

[@cynthiab1659]

Profound and thank you, thank you thank you thank you thank you thank!!!!!!!

[@billhassall1586]

Thank you for saying .....Stop bothering yourself.....brilliant and Empowering

[@Dan-km5tk]

So freeing. Loved this interview, thank you so much ❤

[@anthonyh8850]

Best interview, solves everything for humanity.

[@angieelabed4519]

I love her questions 🩷🩷🩷

[@audreynova1826]

Not only was it needed at this moment it makes so much sense now. Thank you

[@WoodyZappa1]

Laura, your interview was beautiful. Thank you for articulating (in a foreign language, no less) such enlightening questions for a great master. I enjoyed this almost as much as Mickey did!

[@clare5571]

Most beautiful interview with Michael . Thank you 😊

[@vanesssaguevarahypno743]

I love this conversation and I love the connection between the both of you guys.

[@jeffhogan7991]

This video came up in my recommendations. I enjoyed it from Southern California US. A retired dad of 5 kids. Thank you…..

[@corneliabugelnig5654]

Whow, das war ja wirklich top, top, TOP DANKE

[@rochey_natividad]

One of the most beautiful podcasts with Michael Singer! 😍

[@cindybriden372]

I absolutely love that last question! Great answer! Thank you for the video!!

[@janegardner604]

I’m smiling through this whole interview!! Awesome!

[@user-nk1rr1bb5i]

I've been pushing it down for most if not all of my 55 year's and it started coming up after my mum past away 4 year's ago, when i started using weed for chronic pain ive been dealing with since an accident I had when I was 2 year's old it was near fatal and my parents were told I wouldn't and shouldn't have survived, I believe my mum felt guilty as it was her negligence that caused it and she took that guilt out on me as she used to say to me don't you dare make me look like a bad mother,she made me feel unloved and unwanted that I wasn't right in the head but now I know I kept zoning out when I felt traumatised by her constant shouting if she felt I did something wrong including the fact that she had to keep taking me to hospital appointments due to the accident or I was rushed in due to complications due to it,but she was always angry about it and she made it clear her whole life that nothing was her fault.she mostly ignored me,rarely a kind word or a smile,she kept them for my brothers and anyone else pretty much,well it's left me with a voice telling me I'm ugly,not good enough, weird, no confidence, no self worth and not be able to think about anyone but myself

[@monicamason3145]

Beautiful, thank you 🙏

[@rethinking2023]

THANKS & BLESSINGS 🙏for this very inspiring conversational interview 🪷

[@jenniferg6818]

I am so grateful for you both and for our paths aligning. Namaste.

[@laura.malina.seiler]

[@teamginger6359]

This was special. Thank you both for sharing. 🩷

[@sharonraquel2669]

Beautiful interview. Thank you for asking those questions of Michael Singer. ☺️🙏🏽

[@kathrink2473]

This is whisdom! I would love to take that empty paper back... ❤

[@munimuni1385]

Wonderful dialogue , many thanks!❤

[@Mindfuljourneywithme111]

Love Mickeys teachings, love both his books. I find they go very well with Dr Joe Dispenza teachings also

[@gummisnoodable]

Great interview! I love Michael Singer, he is so genuine! He has so many teachings, all free. I will probably go back and do some time stamps but somewhere around the 44 minute mark he talks about all the things that we trust naturally and how the things we don't trust have to do with our filters or our blocks within us.

[@gummisnoodable]

37:55 letting go, relax and release. He speaks elsewhere about how you may want to think of it as relaxing back to your seat of consciousness and how anxiety, and various feelings that are coming up, don't know how to relax but you can relax into and tap into your witness consciousness. By doing that you are allowing it to come up, to recognize it and let it go rather than pushing it back down. For me, when I'm unaware and not in touch with my seat of consciousness it feels like all the thoughts or feelings are around the front of my face and I feel like I have very narrow vision. When I am closer to or in my seat of consciousness, I feel peaceful and my vision and awareness opens up. 39:12 from full witness consciousness there is no one there to let go and it just flows naturally up and out. If anyone has any notes this section of the talk especially, I'd welcome them.

[@TheWorldTeacher]

🐟 15. SUFFERING & HAPPINESS: To understand the nature of suffering, it is ABSOLUTELY imperative to first distinguish suffering from pain (and too, happiness from pleasure). There is a spectrum of pleasure and pain, with an extremely narrow neutral mid-point. Obviously, what constitutes a pleasurable or painful experience is dependent on an individual person's unique preferences. Not everybody likes the taste of chocolate. The feeling of pleasure/pain does NOT, ultimately, come from any external stimulus, believe it or not. It is located entirely in the mind and/or the intellect. That is the reason why highly-advanced spiritual adepts are able to renounce practically all pleasure-seeking activities, content with consuming simple foodstuffs and adequate sleep, and find continuous peace, happiness, and joy, within themselves (“ātmarāma” or “sva-sthaḥ”, in Sanskrit). Furthermore, the adjudication of whether a certain experience is either pleasurable or painful for a particular person can VARY according to circumstance. For example, one may have enjoyed consuming dairy products as a child, but as a vegetarian/vegan adult, find the taste of putrefied milk (cheese, yoghurt, butter, etc.) to be revolting. For one who is dying of starvation, the consumption of cactus leaves may seem to be rather pleasing to the senses, even though, in normal circumstances, it may be distasteful. There are THREE kinds of pleasure/pain: physical, emotional, and financial. For instance, consuming one’s favourite kind of fruit is physically pleasurable. Being hit by a falling coconut - physical pain. Falling in love is an example of psycho-emotional pleasure. Being angry at another - psychological pain. Winning a lottery is an example of financial pleasure. Being robbed - financial pain. There are three origins or CAUSES of pleasure/pain: one’s own body/mind (“adhyātma”, in Sanskrit) other persons/animals (“adhibhūta”, in Sanskrit), and material nature (“adhidaiva”, in Sanskrit). Some “suffer” pain from lack of money. Others “suffer” pain from an abundance of wealth. Some “suffer” pain from lack of food. Others “suffer” pain from an abundance of food. The quality of the “suffering” is different but the NATURE of the “suffering” is the same. OBVIOUSLY, in the previous paragraph, the term “suffer” is used in the stead of “experience”, because that is how the word is used in everyday parlance, in order to draw attention to the fact that pain can be due to an abundance of material opulence as well as a lack of material wealth. GENUINE suffering, on the other hand, is the result of mistaking oneself to be the author of one’s thoughts and actions, and other persons to be fully in control of their own thoughts and deeds. There are five forms (or symptoms) of suffering - all PSYCHOLOGICAL in nature: 1. Guilt/Shame 2. Blame/Bitterness 3. Pride/Arrogance 4. Worry/Anxiety 5. Regrets about the past and expectations for the future/Attachment to outcomes (i.e. being inattentive or negligent to the present moment) Suffering can be COMPLETELY transcended by understanding its source and consciously avoiding its manifestations. For example, as a child, your mother may have been particularly violent towards you. As clearly demonstrated in the chapter dealing with free-will, her violence was wholly due to her genetics and societal conditioning, neither of which were under her control. Blaming your mother for her actions leads to psychological anguish, which can only be cured by focusing on the sense of “I am”. In other words, by resorting to one’s essential nature (knowing one’s innermost being to be Pure Consciousness), one is emancipated from all sorrow. The initial feeling of anger towards your mother was a natural reaction to her violence, but the enduring resentment is existential misery. Any physical pain you may have experienced was just that - pain. That pain is not to be discounted, but it has probably faded-away into the distant past. The psychological distress or torment that you are currently experiencing is the ACTUAL suffering, and it can easily be negated by a proper attitude to life. When we contemplate painful past events (or possible future events) those thoughts occur, ostensively, in the present. It is simply not possible to experience the past or future - only the present moment and the thoughts and feelings of the present are experienced. Therefore, it is important to understand and acknowledge that suffering can only occur in the present and can be cured with mindful practices. It is beneficial to also consult a qualified psychotherapist on a regular basis, in order to slowly heal from such mental angst. When a man kicks his pet dog, the dog does NOT spend the remaining years of its life being angry or resentful towards its master. Dogs have very little concept of past, present and future, but live their lives from moment to moment. How unfortunate it is that lower animals are naturally more at peace with their circumstances.

[@gummisnoodable]

Somewhere around 48:00 disappearing room example is like a lucid dream in the void.

[@gummisnoodable]

Around 1:02:00 the closest thing to what she was looking for seems to be "Let go and see where it (life) goes."

[@bryn3457]

This was a great interview, nicely done.

[@IamEmmett]

Wow, just wow. What a great conversation.

[@carrieb.5896]

Excellent interview, thank you. 🙏

[@jinghuo4385]

What a good one! Thank you!

[@stevepalmer-drums]

Thank you for a great interview. 🙏🙂

[@andrearenee7845]

I love this. THank you,.

[@MandyMoonLand]

This was just beautiful ❤️ Thank you 🙏

[@sonalfennema4546]

Beautiful interview, thank you both so much!!!

[@reema_f]

Just beautiful xxx

[@ntsike]

Wow you asked such beautiful questions.True what someone else commented here,one of the best Michael interviews I’ve seen

[@zjaninai545]

This is my favorite Michael Singer talk. Thank you Laura Malina for asking the most delicious questions and thank you Mickey for being You❤

[@georgecimpoeru6052]

Great interview she seems so nice and authentic

[@soboco_anneheydenreich]

Thank you for this wonderful interview, the points you‘re touching are so valuable. ❤

[@ve.re.]

einfach mega! vielen Dank 🙏🏻😍✨🌟

[@nightwatcherfilms9485]

Great insights!

[@fannyramirez9380]

Beautiful ❤❤❤

[@user-nx7fy2bv7d]

Wonderful

[@erdbeere3828]

Jesus is the prince of peace. True peace you will find in him. Shalom❤

[@whitebutterfly7966]

Very clear yet profound, I learned a lot from both of you, thank you 💐

[@laura.malina.seiler]

I´m happy to hear this!

[@cmbzmail]

This was great conversation thank you guys ❤

[@TeresaCook-de6jo]

Great interview!

[@vaijayantigulve4883]

It's easier said than done...!!

[@rickhalas]

Michael says we are all born to 'cling', to things (the material world) that define us like mommy, blankie, family, crib, job, husband, wife, etc. He says that to 'not' associate at an early age would be very psychically damaging. So, if we are born into this behavior, how and why should we be able to 'release' these things that were beneficial to us at the start of our lives?

[@rickhalas]

'thing's and thoughts oriented us

[@ntsike]

Great question,guessing as children it’s for ‘our survival ‘so we all cling to our stuff,traumas etc and because we haven’t learned about free will and how to intentionally relax and release situations as they come/show up..but as we grow our job is doing that work and learning not to cling ,to relax and release and we only learn that through suffering.Once we see it is never enough with the stuff outside.The true work is internal

[@THFrenchteacher]

Perhaps if we were born to enlightened beings, our journey would not be about letting go because we would have learned that. Our parents pass their beliefs and ideas on to us. When those beliefs and ideas no longer serve us and we suffer, we need to do the internal work. Perhaps.

[@kimhoyer]

I think the key here is early age. Your examples with mommy, blankie, etc. make a lot more sense to me anyway than husband, wife etc. When we were older I think the idea is we put aside childish things and we stop clinging the positive stuff and resisting the negative stuff...instead we experience life as it actually is, let it pass through us, and get ready to experience the next moment that's presented to us. Our job then, is to try and dance with the moment and lift it up if we can.

[@catmccabe400]

❤thank you

[@nickn7047]

Thank you for this interview and your wise questions. It is the first time I hear questions for Micharl Singer that show experience in the work and give us a new perspective.

[@soniareuss2588]

WOW 🙏

[@annbarnes9476]

The best

[@richardsrensen4219]

i can handle it !

[@liebe_.]

"you're not sun burned, you're star burned. " 😅

[@user-mf3et5sq1n]

The words were you didn’t let the emotion run through you, so it got trapped inside of you. This may be true in a lot of cases, but what about the cases when you’re constantly reinforced and badgered over and over year after year you’re not letting it go through you, because as soon as it does, go through you it’s redeposited, give a little slack to those who had it this way❤

[@jamesbutler5908]

Thanks Laura and Michael. We talk a good game and do the opposite. I can't understand when we talk about spiritual practice ,and when we look at the root word of competition it's a form of violence, we go to churches and temples one day a week and then all the other days we are ruthless in competition and do our neighbour out of a jobs? 😮

[@stoics3698]

I think its easy for someone with his life experiences to let go of fear. But I didn't choose to hold on to my ptsd and trauma as a child. I go through life carrying a baggage of fear and anxiety with me not because I want to, but because it's just the evolutionary biology of my body.

[@simoneeschweiler5111]

❤❤❤

[@malaselvarajah5398]

❤❤❤🙏🏼

[@cathyglascock1370]

Isn’t she lovely

[@tombrown7936]

JEREMIAH 17:9 🖤

[@Chazues1]

Asked and answered we embrace the spiritual to help us deal with reality... if we weren't here in reality would we care about a physical self in this 3rd dimension .... ?

[@dennispena5496]

I actually will.drown if I don't hold on to a floatation device. My swimming teacher couldn't figure out why I keep sinking even when my body is still in the waters and relaxed. I will still sink. He thinks it's maybe cus I have little fat. I dunno. But I still practice no attachment to things.

[@joanjenny2555]

The question of what to do when fear enters on your path for my spirituality.... is that I have no attachment to it and allow the energy to be free to move on like a cloud. Some clouds are dark and ominous, some are fluffy and light, some storm and some bring precipitation. I bless them all and allow movement to happen. I breathe in and out and naturally connect my Soul with that which is. I Am That I Am. Eternally Protected. Blessed Be. Peace to the World.

[@user-wt5ts3jh6y]

love the discourse with micheal, u are a lovely lady ....BBBBut u do not sound like a western at all, and we all see things in image, that is what we are, images, not un natural words

[@alinagabrielalamah2308]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@helenedaigle]

I read you Michael Singer and I love and appreciate you ! 😘 Hélas , your numerous , pedagogical “ Okay , All right “ annoys me , 🤨 cannot continue to listen to full podcast , 😬 ‘tis the teacher in me , sorry ‼🥴

[@antant4287]

I cant get past his voice /delivery. I have tried several times. He is quite the spaz, and thats coming from me, a spaz.

[@aaronhermanson3494]

I understand. Read his books instead. You won't be sorry. All the best. 🤘🙌

[@arielg4782]

I think her question regarding trust was meant to ask how do we trust our beliefs and perception of where we go after this physical world when there is no real scientific proof of a truth....for me I would answer to trust your faith...because it doesn't matter of what the truth is we're going there anyways...why waste your life worrying about it...only to come back into life and say see...I knew I was right for worrying..

[@lizweldy4298]

The interview would have been better if you Read at least one of his books.

[@joannedobkin3363]

This has nothing to do with dealing with the pain of reality because my mother died a horrible death that was reality and my siblings decided to not show up, that’s reality. I was alone to grieve that’s reality. There’s a pain in my heart that won’t go away from this and that’s reality. The fact that they don’t care about me that’s reality.

[@sylviasodyssey777]

⚖️🖤💙💚💜❤️🧡💛🤍🪶

[@sylviasodyssey777]

Everything blesses me because God is EVERYTHING; therefore, it all blesses me✨️

[@AllIn1Studio]

Laura, you appear to be clearer in your questions than Singer’s answers. I appreciate your intelligence, insights and he should be interviewing you! Truly. I like your humility, clarity and sweet spirit. A great pleasure to have come across your page and this podcast. I certainly hope you will write a book, if you haven’t already. As I listen, I prefer to just hear you. He’s so dizzying…….and really quite distracting with his “ok?” and “right?” Stop saying ‘right’ & ok Michael!!!

[@AllIn1Studio]

Have you been interviewed? Have you written a book or two? Most interested!

[@stevenrosen5955]

I think he's wrong to say it is our will to resist......the resistance is automatic.......

[@tiffanyalberti2029]

Civil Rights Icons are Icons because they did something about what bothered them. What if they chose not to be bothered? Would black people still be slaves??