How to load a log trailer using a trailer loader

[@jeannie8173]

I always see these trucks here in Oregon and wondered how they got them up like that, so thank you for showing me! To be honest I thought it would be more exciting. Some fancy trick but it was still interesting. LOL

[@thegoodthebadandtheugly9920]

I've always wondered how they did this. 👍🏼

[@The_Original_Drex]

Love the sign on the hoist "absolutely no 3 axle mule truck trailers to be unloaded or loaded at this trailer hoist" 😂

[@brianb-p6586]

This is not a mule trailer.

[@quickleepc]

Thank you! I always see log trailers being carried but I never knew how they got up there.

[@tttco]

My pleasure. Thanks for watching

[@anneoleary5288]

Thank you! I watch the empty trucks roll past my ranch and return loaded with the “pups” ,as they call them in Montana, trailing behind, and I’ve been so stumped ( no pun intended) as to how you get the pup off and on the back of the truck! Wow! Thanks to you I now know how you do it! Great articulate video! Thanks!

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[@anntares172]

Finally!!! I've wondered this everytime I see one on the road and finally found your video. Thank you so much! 😂

[@nicklambing9268]

Thanks again for sharing a portion of your work life. Appears to be a good routine to be certain everything is done that needs to be done so things stay safe and secure as needed. I think it is a very good idea to have a system that is followed time and again so important details don't get missed. I have seen trailers loaded before via KZbin, but it showed how they were doing it years ago. This was a good tune up to current times. Keep trucking and stay safe! Nick, North West Farmer

[@paulbrimo4437]

Thank you. Was curious now I know.

[@erwinruiz5717]

Great video man, thanks to you now we know how is done,keep on trucking brother, God Almighty bless you.

[@690_5]

Whenever I'm rolling my tarps at the mill, I always wonder what the life of a log truck driver is compared to chipping.

[@tttco]

It’s way better in my opinion. I love the drive

[@bobdavis5216]

Logging.. off Hiway, depending on who does,or doesn’t, keep the roads up can be a nice drive or a dusty,muddy potholed mess. Chips… blacktop, the most mud you see depends on the mill your hauling from,more crazy 4 wheelers to deal with. Done both, prefer the chips myself. In reality, I like gasoline the most.

[@12StringHWY]

Thanks for making this video.

[@marioferreira6899]

Nice and simple. 👍 I'm not familiar with logging over there (or here since i'm european), but i always wondered how you would load / unload your log trailers! 🙄 Now i've seen it on other of yours (and others) videos but is a good "how its done"!!! 👌👌👌 Great video, always learning! Best regards.

[@tttco]

Thanks for watching! I'm glad you learned something. I always wanted to make a video on that because before I started driving log truck tried to look on KZbin and never found a video on it. Also I wanted to explain why I do things the way that I do them because when I was trained on driving log truck I was just told to do them but never explained why.

[@marioferreira6899]

​@@tttco I could catch somethings in the background of some videos and you put 2 and 2 together to get an anwser, but yes there isn't much on youtube explaining exactaly how to do it. 🙄 It's very good to have a place where you can go and take doubts or learn something new. 👌 Once again great video and keep them coming! Best regards, Mário Ferreira.

[@Tangaroa775]

That isn’t simple watch a video on New Zealand log Trucks and you will see easy

[@bearsrodshop7067]

Thx for a great look into the logging industry, When one goes goes and picks up a load of building material, they never see what it takes to get it to market,,Cheers and this maid me want to get back in the seat of our old 325 Cat excavator and be hind the wheel of a big rig,,Naw,,to old to climb in either any more.(@@)! Merry Chrismas 2021,,Bear in Tx.

[@charlesmeihana6890]

Wow that was very Kool ,, I like your air line couplings over here in Aotearoa New Zealand 🇳🇿 we have duo matic and tri matic Mankow couplings, they’re alright in the dry but in the wet weather they clog up with dirt and road film and are difficult to free and uncouple,,, I see you have the pollak light coupling, they’re good 👍,,, I’m surprised that you didn’t have to close your inner pole obviously at that length it doesn’t stick up too high probably due to your truck chassis length and how far back your trailer sits ,, I like it. It’s good to see different types of set ups and ideas,,, 👍👌

[@brandonshattuck3305]

Have ever had a trailer drop do to a bad wrench cable ? But i love to watch this out at sds lumber thanks for the sharing what you learned

[@tttco]

No we keep a good eye on them... When they start getting tired we replace them.... So far so good.... However I had a loader operator drop my trailer once!!!!

[@brandonshattuck3305]

@@tttco well that's not good as i can tell from video's you were not under or to close I've really in joyed your videos not a lot of guys are willing to share what go's on in there job or pass on tip to make log truck in safer and easyer to do i got a cdl myself log trucking i not done yet but it's on me to do list next to lowboy driven to me there job's to be proud of we need lumber you need heavy machinery to move timber out i hauled reefer trailers with food and Pendleton whisk and beer them Candida people love there alcohol no one ever thanks to walk up and say thank you remember if you bought it at a store thank a trucker he gave up family time to bring it hope your family and you are staying safe thru the pandemic that's going

[@sheryllbaskin2658]

Thanks heaps for showing us that.

[@juanchavez5267]

So I’m new to logging and I was wondering if you could do a video on how to use the Truck scale while getting loaded at the landing I could use the help thank you and keep up the fantastic work you’re videos are most helpful 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@tttco]

Juan Chavez yes absolutely!!

[@brianw8066]

My curiosity has been fulfilled lol

[@northmanlogging2769]

Man, the truck I drove the trailer was loaded behind the bunk, On the Pipes? was a total PITA to lined up, and it had to be about perfect cause when loaded that way you have to chain it down and the chain was set "just right" about the last month I drove it I figured out to leave the reach up a foot or so and the chain was easier to hook then.

[@donny5063]

Good video brother 😎

[@michaelgrey7854]

Why would you not put the safety chain on? Surly extra safety is a good thing?

[@jamesgollan8602]

actually 2 , one on the front and one at the rear of the trailer, these things bounce off trucks

[@brianb-p6586]

My guess is that he doesn't hook up the chain so that he doesn't have to unhook it before the trailer is removed from the truck.

[@MarkSmith-dh5dh]

Hmm! Okay then good tutorial. #keepontruckin 👍🏼

[@kadmow]

I love the safety advice, as we aren't in Oregon we won't worry - no matter that it takes 5 seconds (and was demonstrated - or does it require a binder??) - classic - safety somewhere else - not done here.

[@tttco]

I’m not sure how a 3/8 chain would stop a 7000lbs trailer from flying off. See log trailers sit between the bunks and are straddled in as well as the reach sets in the headache rack. The only way a log trailer can actually come off. The track is it but somehow it slipped it 8 feet in the air above the steaks on the truck. The only way that would happen is in a rollover, and in that case the chain would Break. Even with a binder. Oregon is the only state to require a chain and no it doesn’t require a binder. Just a chain.

[@kadmow]

@@tttco - maybe, if it were cinched tight it would reduce chafing - Of course if not mandated it must not work, esp. out of state.. lol.... 6600lb WLL - it could actually do quite a lot, maybe even keep trailer on board in a tip-over (only a gentle one of course)... thanks for bothering to reply... cheers..

[@banffdigger]

@@tttco Seen a tridrive with a 4 axle wagon (bc short logger) that barrel rolled in the snow, safety chain kept the trailer on and other then a few blown tires and a bent stack everything else was fine after he got pulled out of the ditch.

[@badbrad2334]

how do you chain the logs down with that setup??? were do you hook the chains or straps to

[@Enword_Jim]

The logs are only tied to each other, they do not get strapped/chained to the truck or trailer. The weight of the logs keeps them in place with the help of knives on the bottom edge of the bunks.

[@johndavidson4128]

Nice

[@darinhassett4708]

nice cant go wrong with KW.. what the weight that you can go up too? I drive for Terrain Tamers in Dillard OR we are rated for 105500.

[@calebsimth4562]

98,000

[@HeltonLogging]

pretty cool

[@tttco]

Thanks.

[@bryanchipps6572]

Oh wow! You set the trailer brakes!?! It seems like 90 percent of the time if im loading on a down hill our drivers "forget" to set the brakes. Wouldn't be too bad to deal with with a regular loader but loading with a processor a loose trailer makes things exciting/ expensive

[@tttco]

Haha yah always keep them set unless the trailer bleeds off!!! Lately it seems like every morning the shovel has to hold it until I charge the trailer 😭😭... Slow leak in having a hard time finding...

[@northmanlogging2769]

To be fair, most of the time the trailers bleed off. besides them trailers are tough... just don't leave anything important downhill from em

[@bryanchipps6572]

@FrighteninglyReal wow most of my driver's call me a slave driver. Did you drive for rc?

[@CHESTURCH]

I'm in north idaho and looking to get back into a short logger. I'm a little nervous for snow. How do you feel about log trucks in snow? I hear they actually do pretty good. Also, what paper pusher made it a requirement to chain your trailer to the truck? Lol if it wants to jump off, a chain and hook ain't keeping it down🤔

[@bobdavis5216]

I have seen trailers jump off the bunks,land on the driver tires. Now your stuck,can’t move because you are to lazy to tie down your equipment? I guess you don’t tie down the load either?

[@masterferguson8703]

They are awesome in snow. Bring chains. I haul in northern Canada.. prefer snow. Oh white pavement as we call it

[@Enword_Jim]

@@bobdavis5216 Well, actually the logs are not tied down, only to each other.

[@bobdavis5216]

@@Enword_Jim In California, you tie the rear bunk to the logs, long logger or short logger. If you’re working in very steep roads,you tie logs to the front bunk also so you don’t strip out.

[@Enword_Jim]

@@bobdavis5216 I'll take your word for it. In the PNW I've only ever seen wrappers on the logs themselves. A quick glance at WA law says the only time you're required to tie to the rear bunk is with a one log load.

[@gnslogging3635]

Good vid bud :)

[@tttco]

Thank you.

[@bdot02]

How is the trailer unloaded? Same process but reversed?

[@johnvelas70]

I'm a logger not a trucker but in PA we don't have this type of log truck everyone uses a 5th wheel trailer. Also most everyone uses an 8LL transmission.I'm curious about your log lengths and total weights.

[@tttco]

So we mostly haul 41 and 37 foot log lengths in the northwest. The reason why we do not use a 5th wheel is the trailer off tracks from the truck. We have such tight logging roads and switch backs often on a side of a mountain we couldn’t use a 5th wheel truck as the trailer couldn’t make the tight turns. With our trailers the extended frame on the truck and the reach of the trailer help steer the trailer to stay in the same tracks as the truck. Also we load the trailer on the back because it’s not uncommon to have to back over a mile to get loaded if it’s on a mountain side.

[@johnvelas70]

@@tttco It could be worse, you could have to back a team of horses/mules or very rarely oxen to our wheel (loggers arch).

[@Unduplicatable]

Wouldn't it just be cheaper to buy a truck that folds the trailer over itself, or would a self-folder shorten the capacity of the length of the logs you can haul?

[@jerrykinnin7941]

What is the bridge weight Axle weight On a setup like this?

[@tttco]

98k in Washington Set for 40 foot logs. 96k in wa at 36 foot logs.

[@donmcintosh4125]

There’s probably an obvious answer, but why do you have to load the trailer on the truck for the back haul ?

[@tttco]

We load our trailers because here on the west coast the mountains are so steep that when we are empty we need the trailer on the back for extra weight to gain traction on our drive tires.

[@northmanlogging2769]

Both answers correct... also makes the return trip faster cause you don't have to compensate for the trailer on corners or in traffic, mostly though its to get turned around in the woods, not a lot of room on a landing as it is, backing upwards of 30 miles of narrow winding logging road is crazy, and cutting in a 60' turn around spot isn't safe or cost effective.

[@airsoftboy14]

Is this the mill in Carson?

[@tttco]

Yes sir.

[@juanchavez5267]

I loved that mill very simple

[@Enword_Jim]

Carson or Morton was my guess.

[@aaronsanborn4291]

Lol we don't use pole trailers here....normally we run a standard tractor and a tri-ax trailer. No pintle hitch involved and we are in and out instead of having to fuck around with the trailer

[@tttco]

I understand. But your logging roads are not as sharp and steep. Sometimes we have to back up over a mile in the dark around switchbacks. That’s why we need our trailers up. Pulse it gives us the traction on our drive axles. Even with interlock in and two diff locks it may still not be enough on the west coast

[@sudd2685]

Great video, thank you young man.

[@markphelps4081]

WKO!

[@TheGuitarDude92]

Now I know! I found your videos as I look at moving careers into log trucking. Did you have to do OTR before an outfit took you on? Thanks for making these videos, I will be referring to them often now!

[@tttco]

Thank you for the nice comment! No I have never ran otr! With how hard it is to find cdl drivers employers are not that picky anymore. Good luck on your career change. May the rest of your life be the best of your life!!!

[@markbailey6994]

Hauled timber in Nova Scotia Canada,,,,48 foot trailer,,,, miserable to turn in woods ....

[@finaldrivetv3669]

4:00 how much safety? All of it

[@BearCat459]

Did you forget your bar?

[@tttco]

Nope

[@Nolan45000]

Wko

[@bobdavis5216]

Good way to get crap in the air line, dragging the lines on the dirt. Just a hint from a 50 year veteran of driving..hook the trailer gladhands together. No dust or dirt. Clean air saves valves.

[@brianb-p6586]

He obviously knows that, he said that he wouldn't normally let them drag, and he's obviously a hand short due to holding the camera to make this video for us.

[@bobdavis5216]

@@brianb-p6586 Good excuse for poor safety practices. Guess who would be liable if he lost the brakes. When you deal with 80,000 pounds or more do you want safety or video? FYI.. 80,000 at 55mph is your average car at 700mph. Easy to get complacent with you deal with it every day.

[@GordoGrande69]

You sound like a grumpy old man. I bet you're a blast at parties.

[@RealMrQuintis]

wait it says no 3 axel trailers?

[@tttco]

Good eye. However I asked them they don’t want any mule train trailers. That trailer is under the weight restriction of the trailer loader.

[@imanallamericanrejek]

I was wondering about that too lol

[@aanrosihan1972]

Hi

[@mikehuwaldt712]

Good practice to not drag your lines in the mud

[@tttco]

Yah for sure!!

[@user-ee5sg7zz8b]

cummins?

[@tttco]

C16

[@terrellscaife2411]

Cool so how much weed can you legally gross

[@tttco]

98k

[@terrellscaife2411]

You can run that without a overweight permit

[@Tangaroa775]

Such a messy set up New Zealand log trucks are way ahead of you canadians😂

[@tttco]

Usa

[@DickShooter]

Nice