How To Make 90s Jungle With Software - No Hardware | Oldschool Jungle

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In this video, I talk of ways to making oldschool 90s jungle with only a software of your choice, but making it sound as close to the hardware as possible, what plugins I use and what workflow I follow. I grew up with the 90s jungle and drum n bass, I first heard this music in the early 90s at the age of 11, and it stuck with me for life. A big part of this music is the sound, that was coming from using technology of that era.
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00:00 Intro
00:47 Hardware VS Software
02:07 Workflow
03:42 Walkthrough
05:35 The Secret Sauce
07:32 Everything Is MONO
07:46 EQ
08:27 Everyting Is Simple
08:54 The Track

[@_boof]

As a long time reason user, this is dope.

[@acidcat5272]

You know what you do man . Underground 🎉 I love

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Thanks ! I miss underground :) It used to be a lot of this, and then eventually everything got the same. I love what Warp was doing in the 90s, what Planet Mu was doing in the 90s, Rephlex Records.. It was all underground but it was also a strong movement, an identity of being different.. As opposed everything being the same these days.. There's probably a lot of underground music makers lost in Bandcamp self releases as there's probably no more labels left investing in music that isn't commercial in any way..

[@reereelization]

Epic. This was very generous of you to share your process. Absolutely banging vibes man. Jungle 4ever.

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Appreciate your comment !

[@michaelheath1194]

This was excellent! Thanks for sharing!

[@user-ok8xx8wf2c]

compression is a must

[@lunanescence]

i've been making jungle for a bit, but i love watching videos and seeing new processes, thank you for sharing this!

[@joelcarloaymat]

Fantastic

[@dan_g-DreadMassaker]

nice to see a fellow reason user. pretty rare when it comes to tutorials on youtube.

[@OwlGear]

How have I just been recommended this! Rinse ur track Say in so many sets. Legend!

[@J-Hz]

Thanks for the video. Hope you do another video soon where you create your own samples

[@os2w4rp]

Beautiful track!

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Thank you !

[@OGxHerBzz]

Thanks for this , epic stuff!

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Thank you !!

[@KevinOchoa10]

This is excelent!

[@lucsolomusic]

I really appreciate your efforts to keep things simple, it sounds great! I'm using Cubase Pro 12 but I also try to avoid using everything that comes with it, this video is a great inspiration.

[@dasdeck]

Very Good Stuff!

[@corri303]

That was very interesting. And very authentic result. Thanks for sharing! What I also like to do is to use a software sampler that uses an interpolation algorithm similar to the ones used in the old AKAIs. There are some that can do low quality sinc like the S1000 or linear interpolation like the S3000.

[@YlowX7]

Renoise's sampler and Redux stand-alone vst sampler have interpolation modes similar to how the Akai samplers work under Sample Properties: None or Linear. It only applies if the sample(s) are repitched though. You also have the option to click the Adjust button in the sample editor to select a lower bitrate and samplerate. The s1000 and s3000 are 16-bit, 44.1khz audio. The s900 is 12-bit, with variable samplerates of 7khz to 40khz. You would need a bit and sample reducer effect for some of those reductions in audio quality. Renoise and Redux have a native one called LofiMat. I suggest getting Redux, since Renoise isn't the most capable DAW. It is a pretty good tracker for anyone who's into that oldschool method of how DAWs worked.

[@denismorozov6082]

Reason one love ❤️

[@yungstigmatamanne]

great stuff fr, this the type of tips i wanted to hear, im a fan, great track btw

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Hey. Appreciate ! Just a quick question though - just curious, does it make any difference if I make videos about hardware or software ? :)

[@yungstigmatamanne]

@@IJOSoundVideo only real difference would be why i watch them lol, i watch software videos for practical use in my stuff and hardware more for entertainment, i still watch both

[@vortexalerand9949]

@@IJOSoundVideo This video was a perfect example of how well you bring both software AND hardware together(either conceptually - like this video, or literally ) , and show how they interact with one another. that they are intrinsic to eachother. please keep up the hardware videos aswell as software techniques, you do them like not many other creators. I reckon anyway. Personally, I would love to see more in depth with the old cubase you use as the topic . I've seen one video on it that you've done, your videography and teaching style breath unique life into this topic Just keep smashing it bro! youve got soul and we are actually pretty lucky to have you share with us your work behind the scenes. Just dont tell us everything, do keep some stuff close to your heart. Its great having tutorials, but also, half the journey is to figure some stuff out in the dark, otherwise it becomes just another thing like every other commonality. and jungle has become popular agin.. which is great, dont get me wrong but there is such thing as too much of a good thing, aye..? p.s. not being able to find information on certain topics is the other half of the fun, because we know we have a journey ahead. sometimes it takes years but that is necessary part of growth

[@ZAYAZOfficial]

Excellent vid! Subbed

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Appreciate !

[@RoastLambShanks]

another thing to do, the amen break is stereo, take the left channel and use that, as its sharper, the right channel is darker more muddy

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Correct ! I made a video on this a while ago. Good example of this is a track by Dillinja called Acid Track where he utilizes both versions of the break in a perfect manner :)

[@RoastLambShanks]

@@IJOSoundVideo ah very cool, did you go over the Dillinja track in the vid, i'm gonna seek it out and check it out

[@RoastLambShanks]

@@IJOSoundVideo i noticed that the amen thats most easily accessible seems to be mono. I think its this one: AmenVN_4barOrig.wav . the one at rhythm-lab seems to be the stereo version.

[@IJOSoundVideo]

yes, most amen (and actually all) samples are mono unless you use the actual original vinyl rip which there are few versions of few different pressings, that sound differently and obviously depends on the needle and equipment used to sample the original 1st generation break, which in itself needs additional processing to make it sound better, but i have used the original 1st generation break in my music that's out on vinyl, and it sounds ok@@RoastLambShanks

[@Blahdnb]

Hello! Thanks for a great video! Have you tried TAL Sampler VST? It emulates s1000 sampling engine pretty well, I used to use it a lot back in a day when I haven't had any hardware samplers. cheers!

[@doughilliard1986]

I've been making tracks that really would benefit from your plug-ins so thanks for sharing! Also are you using akaizer for the timestretched breaks? they sound really cool, I would love to hear your process of how you arrange your breaks. Im very much cut and drag but I feel my process is missing some classic chops and arrangement techniques :D

[@audioauracle-dsyswpwanl-]

👀 🍿 *new sub*

[@solomonjones5115]

Great video. What was the preset on the jv 1080?

[@landonh3535]

Hi, curious if you ever heard of the M8 tracker? It's got MIDI out so in theory you can sequence your hardware instead of using a computer at all. Also is like a little 8 channel hand held DAW, has synths, FX and also a sampler (no timestretch) plus a ton of step effects . Perfect for jungle.Also agree with you on options in the DAW, it can get very overwhelming for me at times. I still use mine but more for making/prepping samples than anything else.

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Hey, thanks for the tip, but I was never in to trackers, they seem to be super complex for me to understand :D I know a lot of ppl using them, but I got so comfortable writing music in a Cubase linear timeline, I can do complex stuff pretty quick, I don't know if I am ready to recalibrate my brain :)

[@landonh3535]

@@IJOSoundVideo Yeah I hear you there, it is a bit of a learning curve for sure. I sequence in the DAW too but I may dip my toe in with sequencing via the M8 and see how it goes,

[@YlowX7]

@@IJOSoundVideo I started out using Renoise. I got kinda sick of the way it worked, so I switched to Bitwig. I purchased Renoise's Redux sampler plugin so I could use the same sampler found int Renoise inside any DAW. It's a pretty good sampler, and it has low quality interpolation settings. You can also adjust the sample and bit rates in the waveform editor. The sampler also has splices which automatically places the clips on keys in order on the keyboard.

[@opticalman6417]

when he did the switch i couldnt notice no difference

[@IJOSoundVideo]

It's a subtle difference, but noticeable, I hope you're not listening this on your phone speakers. It brings results in a context of a full mixdown.

[@opticalman6417]

@@IJOSoundVideo im listing to it through my hs7 monitors

[@guitarguywill4157]

would you recommend the RX950 or TAL-DAC? Not sure if I'm comparing apples with oranges but from my research they seem to do quite similar things

[@worsleyy9366]

Would love to know where you got that amen sample from, sounds crispy and old school in the best possible way

[@IJOSoundVideo]

I have original Amen cuts from the original record, that I love to use sometimes, the cool thing about it is - it is a stereo recording, the original Amen Brother by The Winstones, where the left side is different sounding from the right side, so you already have 2 different sounding versions of the same break, one is hard hitting, another is softer. I also nick them from other jungle tunes if I find one clean without any other sounds, and then process them a little bit to my own taste :) And generally I have a bunch of sample CDs from the 90 that everybody was using at the time.

[@henriquematias1986]

Amazing video! Any tips on how you chop, re sequence, and effect your breaks?

[@IJOSoundVideo]

I did a video on "how i chop my breaks". I use the same technique for both my akai / software programming. Pretty easy and straight forward, nothing super special, really.

[@henriquematias1986]

@@IJOSoundVideo wicked! funny it just got recommended to me today same day you replied this! really good content! proper quality, thanks for sharing

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Glad you're liking it ! @@henriquematias1986

[@TheXraycat]

I use reason also and have the rx950 as a rack extention. I use renoise 30% of the time because I like making a track in a tracker , as it reminds me of making tunes when I was a teenager. The last 12 years I have used reason and kept it updated. For my breaks I have made combinators with multiple samplers in so I have all the options and versatility you would in a tracker. I used to use the nnxt or the Kong, but I needed more options so I built a few combinators that have different samplers set to different octaves . I have made a combinator recently that has a mimic sampler in for quick chopping and a nnxt for pitching snares kicks a nn19 for sample start on hats and it goes to a mixer with the rx950 or I have a patch that sounds like the sp12. I have experience and owned hardware and could never go back as I find it much easier with reason. Great to see another reason user . Thanks for the video mate , always a great to see

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Nice. I can't be bothered with the combinator stuff, too complicated. To me, everything has to be fast, so I take a very simple way of doing things :) I have seen Reason guys made a great SP12 combinator, that only works with Reason 12. I believe that one to be an excellent sounding device, I won't, however, invest in my Reason 10 upgrade, as I only use it for few things, most of what I do is based on my hardware set up. But I'm totally with you on the fact, that laptop with a piece of software is so much more convenient. Hardware is more fun though, and fun is always more inspiring :)

[@TheXraycat]

@@IJOSoundVideo yeah i sometimes miss hardware and i miss the limitations of only having limited equipment and memmory. i even hated daws becoming more advanced as i wanted to use every available function in one track ha ha. i should have stopped at reason 5 as it is still my fav daw. but i kept upgrading now i am on r12. now i keep it simple in 12 . i hated the ssl mixer when that came and used to bypass it, i carried on using the 14/2 mixer. but i have accepted the ssl and can now work with it , i hide the compressor/gating/eqs on the mixer strips and i only have the sends and faders on view . i still use 1993 protracker to get inspierd and have a real stripped back enviroment . then i bounce the stems to audio in reason and add fx and eq. cant wait for ya next vid mate :)

[@IJOSoundVideo]

@@TheXraycat the only thing I don't like about DAWs, is the mouse mixing, you know ? And the fact you can always come back to your track and change something, i hate that, because i may end up never fully liking what i am doing, because I know there are infinite ways of doing the same thing. Whereas with hardware - once is done - is done, everything has been reset and no way of going back to the projects. I even delete my floppies :) Hardware is like a photograph - once taken no way to change things up. I want to make more videos, but I don't know what topics to cover.

[@TheXraycat]

@@IJOSoundVideo yes I know exactly what you mean . It's the same with synths. I would make a patch on hardware and would be to scared to tweek it incase I made it worse and couldn't get it back especially if you have filled your patch bank .I would also delete floppys once recorded. Make sure you don't buy a USB or sd drive as your memory limitations and disk wiping may stop and your nice simple aproach will get more complex. Another annoying thing about modern daws is that we all have a folder of 5000 unfinished tracks that will never get finished haha :)

[@TheXraycat]

@@IJOSoundVideo p.s . I think for a video idea you could show how you map your chops over your keys. Probably use the nnxt as an example on screen as it will be hard on your akai display. You can show that you may put your snares over a full octave and where hou put your reverses. Also I don't know if you know that with all reason samplers you can trigger notes multiple times like cubase vst. So you can get that combing /phaze effect on your drums. I take quantize off and get a precise measure with the controls on the top bar of the arranger

[@MichaelJ023]

It’s interesting that you have to use plugins to degrade the audio, where the original Reason 1.0, 2.5, 3.0 were derided for perceived low quality audio in the mid 00’s. A lot of Jungle and Downtempo tracks were made using the early versions of Reason, using low bit samples to save on resources. It would be cool to see you try this on a vintage G3, G4 mac with a classic version of Reason.

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Hehe, yeah, funny enough, early Reason sounded a lot better from my perspective, definitely more suitable for this kind of music. But I am not planning on using older versions anymore :D

[@Staarve]

How did you get the Innocent ep preset on the jv 1080 to sound like that?

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Hey. I didn't change anything on that preset, but I used chord player, to be able to play chords with one note.

[@migloje]

Vaje kaip seniai nečiupinėjau Reasono :)

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Hey, senas ryzonas nebuvo idomus, bet dabartinis mazai skiriasi nuo kitu DAW.

[@datapusher-]

EMU samplers for the win!!!! Akai??

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Both are great sounding samplers. Both winners :)

[@truthfilter]

is there any software in FL studio that does the same job as the RX950 ?

[@IJOSoundVideo]

I think you can use rx950 in fruity loops ?

[@crackerackadingdong]

whats the original jungle flange/phasing effect? short delay? is that what you used?

[@IJOSoundVideo]

The flange / phasing effect is created while timestredhing the break, I use Akaizer - a free app that sounds nearly identical to the Akai time stretch.

[@davidsmisc1351]

Listening to your two d’n’b tracks, the hardware track had more ‘high end sizzle’. That’s what I really liked about about my old S1000-the digital crispness similar to early CD players. Rolands sounded ‘warm’ but I preferred crystalline sound of the Akais, which I can hear in your music. Of course, your ‘in the box’ track still sounds like you. So it’s all relative.

[@IJOSoundVideo]

There's a subtle difference in the way the MIDI sequencer triggers software and hardware sampler notes, Cubase does it differently than Reason. Then there's the sound itself, all hardware mixes to me personally sound very warm and very organic, while the software ones sound kind of computer-ish, and very harsh in the high frequencies, no matter how much I try to adjust it, it still sounds different, and the way software processes effects, everything sounds very digital and non-organic. I am about to do another video on software production :)

[@davidsmisc1351]

@@IJOSoundVideo Yes-I think people loved older electronic music because those tiny variations in timing on wobbly midi rigs added something akin to human feel. I have loads of outputs on my Focusrite Scarlett plus Octopre-so in could easily mix analogue if I bought an old skool desk or booked studio time. Maybe some day.

[@datapusher-]

EMU samplers for the win!!!!

[@howtoelectronicmusic4065]

Which Sample packs would you suggest for the breaks?

[@vortexalerand9949]

youve got to understand the value of information that he has already shared. dude its taken years for the oldskool producers to come out and share their techniques ive been in the dark on oldskool production techniques since 2008 - when i first got into breakbeat at age 17. i suggest you just start digging bro trust me, you will appreciate it more if its not just handed on a plate.. otherwise its just another ... thing.. a commonality if you will if your here.. then i'm sure you know a ting bout dem ting, be your individual journey, no point copying dem ting. stuggle to a bad boy and with that, have a good one Respect to you!

[@vortexalerand9949]

im talking specifically about sounds and each persons individual sound selection, and how important it is to be individual otherwise.. its all cookie cutter..?

[@Jacobbbbmolina]

Bro is DnB Jesus

[@daniaalquadi8036]

Would you be able to share the 808 bass sample?

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Hey. I have done a sample pack with all the 808 basses i use ( there's actually only few) and about 100 breaks programmed with s1000 ) taken from my stems, but i feel reluctant to put it out for some reason.

[@mattwaldren4992]

Any 808 processing?

[@IJOSoundVideo]

In my case, nothing at all. But just because when I use hardware, I don't process anything either, so I kept the same approach here.

[@koncreteto2758]

Awesome video man i really enjoyed it, do you think you could make a video on how you set up the nnxt to play the chops ❤ just subscribed too 😀

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Hey, thanks ! I have a couple of Reason tracks ready for a new video, just need to find the time to make one, will touch on the nnxt thing :)

[@koncreteto2758]

​@@IJOSoundVideo awesome look forward to it 🙏

[@edgarsrutkovskis1846]

Diva vocal samples?

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Can't remember where I took it from.

[@edgarsrutkovskis1846]

8:27 why you dont use comressors?:)

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Hey, well I mostly talk about 90s jungle, which at the time was done with a very limited kit, and very few producers used compressor, which was mostly used on a bus. I also try to imitate my own hardware setup, and I do not own a compressor either (I did have one back in the day, and I used it on 2 mono drum channels). In general, I only show my workflow and the end result, in reality there are no rules to making any kind of music. If it sounds good to the artists making it - then this is how it should be :)

[@edgarsrutkovskis1846]

@@IJOSoundVideo for example, in one video bizzy b shows his comresor/limiter from the 90s

[@Jakob-no2ji]

What software do you use here?

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Hey. It's Reason 12, or Reason Studios as they are called right now.

[@dffgffffffdddddddddd]

why only mono

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Hey. Well, 90s was all about mono. For starters - mono outputs on samplers, mono sounds better and punchier + vinyl are mostly mono due to its physical characteristics + club soundsystems are mono too. So when talking about the sound of 90s - it's mostly mono, with stereo reverb on some sounds which was still not very wide compared to these days extra widening on everything, which, to me, doesn't sound good and sounds very unnatural.

[@amerism4530]

where do you get your vocals mate .... one thing im lacking

[@IJOSoundVideo]

KZbin :)

[@amerism4530]

@@IJOSoundVideo does each individual track from the mixer go into a input on a audio interface or ? how do you get each mixer track on separate tracks in the daw.. thanks for the help mate

[@amerism4530]

??

[@IJOSoundVideo]

@@amerism4530 Here in this particular video everything is done inside the software, no hardware at all.

[@amerism4530]

@@IJOSoundVideo I've watched it I want to use hardware I have a 950 a 32000xl and fx units and a Mackie mixer im just young and am confused to how its all wired up.. I sample into my akai from the outs on my interface but I want to just run midi through my mixer and into my daw for arrangement but im confused on the last steps..

[@erikasdarodalykus]

Labas

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Labas

[@liorsilverstein9802]

nice jungle at the end, better than the africans doing boring stuff.

[@dffgffffffdddddddddd]

what

[@liorsilverstein9802]

@@dffgffffffdddddddddd you read me

[@carterdasnake957]

What daw is that brother? Also bro this is authentic as hell. I don't hear tutorials or dnb in general that sounds like its from back in the day.

[@francoisnoir10x]

Should be reason

[@IJOSoundVideo]

Hey, thanks ! It's Reason 12. Yeah, the 90s stuff was less processed like they do today, it is easy to get carried away with computers these days when you have all of the worlds compressors and EQs and effects as plugins. Back in the day real hardware studios were very limited, which was a good thing. So, even if you can use everything all at once, it is best to limit yourself to only a few tools.

[@francoisnoir10x]

@@IJOSoundVideoexact. Don’t get lost in all the options

[@AudioPervert1]

since everything has been sampled .. the DAW is the new hardware ... Even though most DAWS have hit a point of stagnation (as is the case with all linear computing)