Retro Jungle Production Techniques With Pete Cannon

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Sound On Sound magazine

Sound On Sound magazine

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The sound of jungle drum and bass is intrinsically linked with the computers and samplers of the ‘80s and ‘90s. We talk to jungle drum and bass producer Pete Cannon in this exclusive SOS Video Feature, about his retro jungle production process and how and why he’s still using Akai samplers, Ataris and Amigas.
Pete Cannon discusses the history of sampling in the jungle scene, and how samplers like the Akai S950 and S1100 (as used by scene legends such as ShyFX and Liam Howlett from The Prodigy) have become synonymous with the genre. Pete then outlines his favourite jungle production techniques, with tips and tricks on how he uses his Akai sampler, a tutorial on how to recreate classic synth chord stabs, and onto sequencing a drum and bass track using OctaMED tracker on an Amiga computer.
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00:00 - Intro
00:34 - Pete Interview
05:07 - Using A Modified Akai S1100, Amen Break & OctaMED Tracker on Amiga
12:20 - Short Live Track Playthrough
13:22 - Rave Chord Stabs Using "Chord Memory"
14:51 - Cubase 2 and Atari ST 520
17:48 - 8-bit Sampling With The Amiga
19:00 - 8-bit Vinyl Test Pressings Arrive!
20:08 - Some More OctaMED Details
21:08 - Track Playthrough In OctaMED
25:25 - Outro
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@beatweezl
@beatweezl 3 жыл бұрын
Sample him saying a word ending in "p" and you got a great kick.
@UnaWarlock
@UnaWarlock 3 жыл бұрын
uPPPPP
@timvolya8788
@timvolya8788 3 жыл бұрын
Mr OPpp
@mktmktmkt
@mktmktmkt 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@daveclassen5013
@daveclassen5013 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what i did today! And it turned out to be MASSIVE!
@Mr.Marbles
@Mr.Marbles 3 жыл бұрын
@@daveclassen5013 its not massive… its Passive 🌝
@pokerdealer2003
@pokerdealer2003 3 жыл бұрын
I’m 42 and have been doing this since mid 90’s and have still never showed anyone but my wife my music.
@TheCALMInstitute
@TheCALMInstitute 3 жыл бұрын
The Mayor well get a distrokid account and get started dude!
@cf5914
@cf5914 3 жыл бұрын
And what did your wife think of it?
@pokerdealer2003
@pokerdealer2003 3 жыл бұрын
C F bro I got robot ears lol my boys love it they are 13 and 15 they are both into production also, my wife every now and then will hear something she says she loves.
@pokerdealer2003
@pokerdealer2003 3 жыл бұрын
MrFrankthefink I need to do something if it’s coming full circle.
@mortifiedlobster
@mortifiedlobster 3 жыл бұрын
release it bro why not
@MrSTAYUP33
@MrSTAYUP33 3 жыл бұрын
playing the 808 state horn by mouth is worth the whole vid, although the whole thing is really dope
@tebbisimoX
@tebbisimoX 3 жыл бұрын
i sang along and did it with him hahaha
@SETHHIKARU
@SETHHIKARU 3 жыл бұрын
I sang along too haha
@SpazeUnofficials
@SpazeUnofficials 3 жыл бұрын
14:00
@notafanboy250
@notafanboy250 Жыл бұрын
What song was he humming to? Edit: Found it. 808 State - Pacific State.
@Rascaduanok
@Rascaduanok Жыл бұрын
That was indeed awesome. I love this guy!
@lbat5276
@lbat5276 3 жыл бұрын
Super interesting - how anyone learned these techniques pre-internet is nuts.
@bencolemanart
@bencolemanart 2 жыл бұрын
Word of mouth, trial and error, and passion for the music!
@jimbojankerson5610
@jimbojankerson5610 2 жыл бұрын
Plus they would listen to other tracks and could tell what techniques they were utilized or creating.
@dunk8157
@dunk8157 2 жыл бұрын
Before the internet literally half the young population would go out on the weekend and dance all night at various forms of parties. Sometimes several thousand at one event. There was just a massive scene and everyone would talk to each other about music a lot, listen to the latest tracks, want to make something even better. You'd get records from all over the world being bought and played, must have been millions of people all across the world into dance music in the 90s.
@XanderEwald
@XanderEwald 2 жыл бұрын
@@dunk8157 People still do that just as they always did.
@lawrencelimburger9160
@lawrencelimburger9160 2 жыл бұрын
was called a magazine
@RonWellsJS
@RonWellsJS 3 жыл бұрын
Pete is full of ability and enthusiasm without a hint of ego, a rare combination of positive energy.
@witchdoctorwise
@witchdoctorwise 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he's the don
@SirBoycie
@SirBoycie 3 жыл бұрын
@@witchdoctorwise You're replying to the don...Mr Ron Wells
@deemarr9151
@deemarr9151 3 жыл бұрын
Ok!
@23lnp
@23lnp 3 жыл бұрын
The old skool way
@justinium77
@justinium77 3 жыл бұрын
@@SirBoycie A Don for sure!! There is no 'The Don'
@trevor4835
@trevor4835 3 жыл бұрын
Woulda killed for this vid a decade ago lol
@simontunnicliffe2107
@simontunnicliffe2107 3 жыл бұрын
Woulda killed for the knowledge of how this was put together and the equipment 27 years ago lol!
@simontunnicliffe2107
@simontunnicliffe2107 3 жыл бұрын
@@StevenJamesBurks The thing is as well, I knew someone doing this on an Amiga 500 in about 91 / 92. A lad on my estate who was about 4-5 years older than me. I was about 15 at the time. He was using a programme called Music X. Wish I'd have got into it then but I was heavily into skateboarding at the time and didn't really consider myself musical but I am.
@viejaastral
@viejaastral 3 жыл бұрын
well. yeah I do get why does he says a decade ago.. have you seen the prices of that equipment nowadays? like 10 years ago it was a way to start making music on the cheap and to get that 90s sound all in one package.. nowadays EVERYTHING is labeled vintage and commands like 10 times the price it had just 10 years ago.. it is ridiculous.
@theothertonydutch
@theothertonydutch 3 жыл бұрын
@@viejaastral Something came out 5 years ago and it's already vintage these days it seems. It's good that there's so much nice stuff on the market now though, and new prices for synths isn't the worst nowadays either.
@strongocho
@strongocho 3 жыл бұрын
4:20 you nailed why sample based music making is so good. The act of sampling is actually fun and exciting. It is like fishing. You boringly dig through records until you "catch" something and find a sound that inspires you. From there, it is off to the races.
@iNuchalHead
@iNuchalHead 2 жыл бұрын
That jumped out at me. I understand the irony of "original sounds," but I like music like that.
@LazerMage77
@LazerMage77 9 ай бұрын
@@iNuchalHead Like Dj Shadow's Endtroducing.
@Dubdroid
@Dubdroid 3 ай бұрын
… or the Crown Court … when you get screwed for copywrite theft 😢 … Lawyers and greedy record labels ruined the FREEDOM and ‘art’ of cut-up sampling!
@georgeespley9177
@georgeespley9177 3 жыл бұрын
I’m 15 and I bought an akai s2000 because of watching this video! Big ups Pete! Ur my biggest inspiration in music!
@torocruz1192
@torocruz1192 Жыл бұрын
Happy sampling dude 👍🏽
@gfr2023
@gfr2023 Жыл бұрын
Cool if you can find an s1000 you will be amazed
@robertsyrett1992
@robertsyrett1992 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I get nostalgic for old samplers I remember the loading time.
@auxlen
@auxlen 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely. And the floppy disc OS
@mano123456
@mano123456 3 жыл бұрын
I find the experience meditative. The complete disconnect from mouse/keyboard and starring at screens is worth the effort.
@robertsyrett1992
@robertsyrett1992 3 жыл бұрын
@@mano123456 Well anything can be a mindfulness meditation I suppose, but I'd prefer to spend my meditation time on a cushion or drinking tea given the option.
@mano123456
@mano123456 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertsyrett1992 fair enough! The time travel aspect is a big thing for me. Call it a palette cleanser from the "real" world
@robertsyrett1992
@robertsyrett1992 3 жыл бұрын
@@mano123456 That's definitely part of why I use a modular!
@misterjones313
@misterjones313 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, had to stop the video at 13:55 'cause I was smiling so much. Big ups to Pete Cannon for replaying 808 State's "Pacific". That was a huge track back in the day in my native Detroit (specifically, the Pacific 0101 variant). I still have my Tommy Boy copy on vinyl with "For A List DJ's Only" stamped on it.
@RetroJay1974
@RetroJay1974 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is me and I never got around to do doing what he has acheived! We used to haul our Amigas and Synths around to a mates house and sit in his kitchen at all hours! Armed with Sample cartridges, Atari STE's aswell BTW! we would create all sorts of stuff. This was from 1991 to 1995! they were bloody good days, we would record onto Tape and then bomb around in our mates tin-pot Ford Fiesta MK3 blaring whatever we had made.
@jnkmal9519
@jnkmal9519 3 жыл бұрын
You should share those recordings, if you still have 'em. I'd love to hear.
@AGlimmerofPete13
@AGlimmerofPete13 3 жыл бұрын
This is what its all about man I'm doing the same shit today
@re8et355
@re8et355 3 жыл бұрын
I still can't make this music today and I'm '78! You guys shaped it!
@jeremiahfire1798
@jeremiahfire1798 3 жыл бұрын
You know that! I had an STE withe Cubase and the ugly Atari monitor....and a Yamaha A3000.... It took fkin ages to do anything though
@simondjtopcat7685
@simondjtopcat7685 Жыл бұрын
@@AGlimmerofPete13 I'm 49 and just got back into all this. Shouldn't of stop it....
@BeatsbyBlanch
@BeatsbyBlanch 3 жыл бұрын
I was introduced to Photek literally only last year, im 26, and became obsessed w/ how this music is created.
@niqulusviii987
@niqulusviii987 2 жыл бұрын
Same! They were light-years ahead of rap production here in the U.S.
@Drone453
@Drone453 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I pulled out my original Modus Operandi cd the other day which I must've bought around the year 2000. I'm restoring an old Walkinshaw L200 pickup which has a 400w non Bluetooth stereo and decided to dig out my dusty old cd pack. After years of compressed Spotify streaming it sounded truly epic!
@tomik6537
@tomik6537 Жыл бұрын
@@Drone453 get the flac for photek jfc
@murphyaj
@murphyaj Жыл бұрын
Photek was the don
@grimbelfrixx3969
@grimbelfrixx3969 Жыл бұрын
Since #wipeoutsoundtrack #thirdsequence I'm a Photek fanboy...
@paweserafin9407
@paweserafin9407 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the middle 90's when I obviously could not afford an AKAI sampler, I got the 8 bit one for my Amiga, and my usual trick was to first record from the source I want to sample to tape, in long play mode, and then I would put the tape in a player which did not support the long play function - it would then play out slower, I would sample it like that and then play with high pitch notes to get back to the real sample tune, but with much better sample resolution lol, same applied to sampling 45's at 33 rpm :)
@RennieDJ
@RennieDJ 3 жыл бұрын
I remember doin that when I had a 2sec sampler on a keyboard. Record at 45rpm and + 8, edit outside of the sampler. Then record in. Play on a lower key and boom u have your sample and used less memory of the sampler :)))
@pkaulf
@pkaulf 3 жыл бұрын
I used to do something similar. My Amiga sampler could only go up to about 24khz without the sound breaking up. If I sampled 45rpm vinyl at 33 I could pitch it back up and get a bit more fidelity
@bass27check
@bass27check 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBizzyBScience Nooooo! Everything I made when I was 14 had that high-pitched whistle over the top. Still, the technique Pawel mentions meant that the whistle got higher (less audible) when played back at correct pitch. I used to make my jungle at hip-hop tempo, recorded into a Fostex multi-track cassette recorder with vari-speed on slowest setting. Never knew what the tune sounded like until I finished it and played it back on my mum's stereo.
@andreasoberg2021
@andreasoberg2021 3 жыл бұрын
Woha, that was clever!
@OneRoomShed
@OneRoomShed 3 жыл бұрын
Rennaldo I also had a Casio keyboard with a sampler that would do like 2 second samples. I would grab samples from cassettes by using a boombox with dual cassettes. I would set the tape to play using the high speed dub mode and sample it onto the keyboard. Then use the lower keys to play the sample at the original speed. It was very lofi quality but at 10 years old i was just happy to be able make loops and stuff.
@MattWhitehead80
@MattWhitehead80 3 жыл бұрын
This is like Time Team, but for ravers.
@urmumsbaps
@urmumsbaps 3 жыл бұрын
That just makes me picture Time Team in a few hundred years, excavating fields and finding nos canisters and baggies left over from raves 😂
@strawtube72
@strawtube72 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Phil, what you recon that is?,, "oh theres a right beauty that 'is, it's an electribe of some sort... looks like an ES" [rakes ground ]
@weeman1357
@weeman1357 3 жыл бұрын
Great comment, bravo 👍
@juliaboguslawska4794
@juliaboguslawska4794 3 жыл бұрын
That made me chuckle
@abe3567
@abe3567 2 жыл бұрын
This shit is antique
@LFOVCF
@LFOVCF 3 жыл бұрын
OCTAMED. Those were the days. A golden time. The limitations made us more resourceful, but now we have it all, and it's marvelous, but hard to get a vibe going.
@grahamsquared
@grahamsquared 3 жыл бұрын
The software may be vintage but his hair is FUTURE.
@GENFX303
@GENFX303 3 жыл бұрын
Killer-Hair- tz ✌️
@robertmarmeaux5855
@robertmarmeaux5855 3 жыл бұрын
I assume someone has already sampled "Sounds crispy to me..." by now. I truly hope so.
@YouTubeSupportTeams
@YouTubeSupportTeams 3 жыл бұрын
mate i was just about to comment THAT!
@SpazeUnofficials
@SpazeUnofficials 3 жыл бұрын
20:00
@georgeespley9177
@georgeespley9177 3 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna do that later and time stretch it on my akai s2000!
@ashtray314
@ashtray314 3 жыл бұрын
That bit where he did 808 state was epic! Proper grin on my face 😁
@elliottsilverman7931
@elliottsilverman7931 3 жыл бұрын
It might of been a casio that was played on it as in yer face video u see a casio
@Justicefu
@Justicefu 3 жыл бұрын
hahaha the mouth sax and his hand gestures are fuken amazing
@Kodeb8
@Kodeb8 2 жыл бұрын
The program he is using is called a mod tracker. They are older than DAWs, but they are still extremely useful! The work flow is different, but I'd say it's actually better for music that uses a lot of samples, and ESPECIALLY jungle music! What makes them so powerful is you can quickly chop a part of a sample that you want, and you use keyboard shortcuts to place in the notes, instead of using a piano roll. If you want a modern mod tracker, you should get Renoise! Or if you don't want to pay for it, OpenMPT is also very good!
@KingMob4313
@KingMob4313 Жыл бұрын
They actually have fully hardware trackers now, which blows my damn mind. The Polyend tracker.
@morenoh149
@morenoh149 Жыл бұрын
Milky tracker is pretty good and free
@StoppedClockImaging
@StoppedClockImaging 3 жыл бұрын
You can’t beat this original sound, it just has that something special that’s hard to recreate with modern gear.
@imDezrt
@imDezrt 3 жыл бұрын
The special sauce is a lack of options. Limitations are very underrated as a tool for creativity--people don't know what they're missing with a fully-loaded daw with 1000 VSTs
@beigela
@beigela 3 жыл бұрын
use cassette or adat. cheap way to get some analog color to your stems or mixbus.
@scottbaxendale323
@scottbaxendale323 3 жыл бұрын
Dezrt that’s why I like tape.
@saftpackerl
@saftpackerl 3 жыл бұрын
@@beigela DAT is digital...
@uhis1686
@uhis1686 3 жыл бұрын
@@imDezrt you're goddamn right, im too young to ever have had these things cuz i was born in 97 lol, but when i started making music i had the most basic version of fl studio or i guess it was still called fruity loops lol. and not having acces to even normal synthesizers forced me to learn how they actually worked instead of just using some random preset and i'm actually glad i learned synthesis that way.
@SL-nh6mn
@SL-nh6mn 3 жыл бұрын
A module like this should be taught on all music production courses: The Appreciation Module (How hard it was, and how easy you have it now). Great demo and trip down memory lane thank you!
@DangerRifai
@DangerRifai 11 ай бұрын
Word. We did something very similar on my Animation degree course: Making a 30 second stop-motion animation for an advert. Took a team of 6 of us two whole weeks to do a simple animation centred around two clay characters!
@monsterphonic
@monsterphonic 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 45 and spent most of my late teens on octamed writing D&B and breakbeat. Gonna have to dig out the amiga from the attic and recreate the oldskool again! Cheers for the wicked (junglist massive) video!
@afropovic
@afropovic Жыл бұрын
Me too...Even have some of the original disks which I use on the Amiga emulator UAE on PC.
@BeatSkillz
@BeatSkillz 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, SOS for featuring our SampleX plugin :) - Beatskillz Team.
@GearSeekers
@GearSeekers Жыл бұрын
OctaMED still goes hard!
@jangerhard4039
@jangerhard4039 2 жыл бұрын
You just have to love the SOS crew for this. This video is not just entertainment - it shows some important cultural heritage.
@AlexBallMusic
@AlexBallMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic history lesson and end result. Having never made music this way it's really fascinating. A proper craft.
@boptillyouflop
@boptillyouflop Жыл бұрын
It's easy to get into this way of making music... if you have the right kind of mind :3
@_Trakman
@_Trakman 24 күн бұрын
That time-stretched, sped up sound was a game changer! 😁
@theMIDImaniac
@theMIDImaniac 3 жыл бұрын
It dominated not only the UK-dance music scene. Also in Holland this was everywhere. I danced my ass off and I also had octamed and the Amiga 500. After going out I stayed up, completely influenced by the music, and went to bed deep in the afternoon. Golden times!
@Dan-jg7zl
@Dan-jg7zl Жыл бұрын
Those tracks he played on the turntable sounded fresher than any shit I have heard recently. People who buy into all this fancy gear really have no idea. Pete proves that here.
@gower1973
@gower1973 3 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of jungle music, but seeing an Amiga 1200 doing its thing in 2020, is a thing of beauty and a joy forever
@RukaJouko
@RukaJouko 25 күн бұрын
There's just something magical about sampling and using all these machines to sample just adds a layer of coolness to that magic
@syncreticaudio4656
@syncreticaudio4656 Жыл бұрын
3:00 thats the most explosive "P" i ever heard
@Dexton0742
@Dexton0742 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus! This is one of the most interesting music vids I've seen in a LONG time. Wish it was 2 hours long
@RoomAtTheTopStudio
@RoomAtTheTopStudio 3 жыл бұрын
It's great to see Pete Cannon doing what the pioneers used to do in Jungle. All of it is legit. I saw the TG500 in there. Akai S900/950 was a staple. Ensoniq EPS 16 as well as the JV1080 sound module was also used in our studio back in the days. Thanks for this trip back in time. To me it doesn't seem that long ago but reality is it was over quarter of a century ago.
@RoomAtTheTopStudio
@RoomAtTheTopStudio 3 жыл бұрын
​@@TheBizzyBScience The S900's went along time ago in 1994. So did the Ensoniq EPS 16 in about 1997/98. Still have access to the TG500, Oberheim DX, Yamaha DX100, JV1080, MPC60, Two 8 track Alesis ADAT machines while the Tascam D20 DAT machine, Yamaha SK30, Logan String Melody II, Hammond B100, Yamaha CS10 and MPC2000XL are in my own personal studio.
@RoomAtTheTopStudio
@RoomAtTheTopStudio 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheBizzyBScience by the way I see you're a Junglist right? Nice channel. Subbed.
@RayBrooks0
@RayBrooks0 3 жыл бұрын
@@RoomAtTheTopStudio did you just :O LOOOOOOOOOL
@Dechral
@Dechral Жыл бұрын
seeing a vid about jungle getting a ton of views will always bring a smile to my face
@RaendyLeBeau
@RaendyLeBeau 2 жыл бұрын
13:55 ohh cool .. omg. remember this era
@famousarmystudio
@famousarmystudio 3 жыл бұрын
perhaps one of the best things on the world wide web right now.
@dominik6242
@dominik6242 3 жыл бұрын
agree!
@pxltr
@pxltr 3 жыл бұрын
>world wide web haven't heard this term in a while
@benrowlinson
@benrowlinson 3 жыл бұрын
Watching KZbin producer-people reacting to their own music is rarely other than uncomfortable, but David Lynch's lovechild here shows 'em the way.
@philipm3173
@philipm3173 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t be much point of any of us musicians making it if we didn’t like it haha
@dxtrs_mnpltr
@dxtrs_mnpltr 3 жыл бұрын
He's having so much fun that its impossible not to vibe with him! True playa!
@LazerMage77
@LazerMage77 2 жыл бұрын
A GARGATUAN amount of Jungle knowledge in a relatively small/short video! Shows you HOW and WHERE a lot of the samples originate from. Most know the Amen, but the sample mod/chop/stretch/delay and, hell, ALL those are done! Masterclass vid. I learned more about production of this genre in less than 30 mins than I've learned in sooooo many Ableton Live and FLoops vids I've watched in the last month! Props mate!
@davetbassbos
@davetbassbos 3 жыл бұрын
Ah ha, the chord memory thing definitely seems to be key to that era's sound!
@graxjpg
@graxjpg 3 жыл бұрын
The deepmind does that really well. It does all of the synth sounds this video makes, but I use others too lol. But specifically, it has a chord button.
@prufrockrenegade
@prufrockrenegade 3 жыл бұрын
Or you can just sample and loop the chord, and pitch it around in your sampler. That's the way I always did it, and I always assumed that's how everyone else did it too up until I saw this video haha
@Uvisir
@Uvisir 3 жыл бұрын
one of them yes.
@lawayama2600
@lawayama2600 3 жыл бұрын
Have never known this guy, but he is way too cool!
@jameslainchbury6746
@jameslainchbury6746 3 жыл бұрын
Pete is a don. ya need to check out his recordings
@jordanzish
@jordanzish 3 жыл бұрын
Follow him on Twitter he's always releasing clips of him raving out to new jungle tracks he's working on. That's what put him on my radar and I'm so glad this long form masterpiece just showed up on my feed.
@andrewbryce2707
@andrewbryce2707 3 жыл бұрын
I only know cannon for his production in UK Hip Hop. Never knew he was a jungle producer.
@y3v1k
@y3v1k 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewbryce2707 but even from his hip-hop beats one can feel jungle influence
@mixerdave900
@mixerdave900 Жыл бұрын
The respect Pete has for the scene is reflected in the respect we have for him.
@nigelcarren
@nigelcarren 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video mon ami from a bloke who was writing MIDI sketches back in the day for The Pet Shop Boys using a Commodore 64 running Steinberg PRO-16. To date this remains the fastest way for me to do this. Such a joy to use. My floppy became corrupt once (not a euphemism) `and I phoned Steinberg, they were SO SHOCKED anyone was still using it they sent me a new Disk with a Get Well Soon card (TRUE STORY). This EXCEPTIONAL service was the reason why when in 2002 I was able to set up a proper-studio I remained loyal to Cubase and bought the best that money could buy, but I didn't get on with it at all, not at all user-friendly or at all conducive to dumping an idea down really quick whist the inspiration is still in the air. But still using the C64 for MIDI moments of madness though. Best wishes folks from me (and all the mice in the studio).
@jeremiahfire1798
@jeremiahfire1798 3 жыл бұрын
The 'warm sound' every one talks about is just down to the fact that we weren't completing cutting out frequency bands using EQ plugins like everyone does now. You would just tweak on a Mackie board. The mixes were muddied/warmer. Also used to use the Akai LPF a lot, which adds warmth.
@drifter402
@drifter402 2 жыл бұрын
That and less high high end. Some producers just fill it with whitenoise especially the EDMTrance guys. Shits horrid.
@tekis0
@tekis0 2 жыл бұрын
@@drifter402 🤣😹😂
@valley_robot
@valley_robot Жыл бұрын
I just record everything loud and hope for the best , it sounds pretty good to me
@Marius-vw9hp
@Marius-vw9hp 3 жыл бұрын
IMO if you want to make something that sounds retro, its more important to replicate the workflow (like Pete does) than just simulate the sounds wih a plugin.
@Jonathan_Doe_
@Jonathan_Doe_ 3 жыл бұрын
The swing settings on the Atari are a legendary part of the vibe. People held onto Atari based setups long after they were obsolete as a home computer, because they felt the swing was better, and the midi timing was tighter because it was built in.
@sumocloud
@sumocloud 3 жыл бұрын
Atari has a unique OS which makes it very tight. Whichever programming is running takes over the whole computer. That's why atari st is still tighter than even new computers (according to some ppl). Hardware sounds different because of the analog signal flow. Plus each piece of kit has its own sound, and its about the da converters and many discrete parts, interactive, real/physical parts, all of which give hardware character which is hard to emulate on a computer. It's not so much about the "algorhythm" that the old samplers used.
@Marius-vw9hp
@Marius-vw9hp 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jonathan_Doe_ Its interesting how people like old machines for their swing feel. I have heard the same about old Akai MPCs.
@Marius-vw9hp
@Marius-vw9hp 3 жыл бұрын
​@@sumocloud Yes I agree there are lots of variables in the soundpath also, but IMO what really makes something sound oldschool is having to record it the old way: with maybe an old sequencer like the Yamaha RM1X, a couple of samplers, a couple of synths, patching it all with midi, having to record knobs live, etc. The workflow is so different than using a DAW. In my studio I have both DAW and a Yamaha RS7000 to chose from :)
@alexjeens479
@alexjeens479 3 жыл бұрын
@@sumocloud what mpc would you recommended to make hip hop ?
@bassmelody2868
@bassmelody2868 Жыл бұрын
эх а ведь 90 года истроия я люблю старые синтезаторы 70-8-90- старое душа в них есть!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@nicolebegg5303
@nicolebegg5303 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely incredible video!! I love all music but jungle does something to my soul. Nothing else compares. I wish I was old enough to have experienced it in real time, but I thank my big brothers for filling the house with it every day when I was growing up!!
@alexbates9127
@alexbates9127 Ай бұрын
Does something to my soul too. Jungle music wakes up parts of my inner being and lets them connect and rejoice.
@chugnuts870
@chugnuts870 3 жыл бұрын
He’s got a stinking cold bless him ❄️
@james5553
@james5553 3 жыл бұрын
He is certainly enthusiastic
@Tubeinnit
@Tubeinnit 2 жыл бұрын
Covid... coronamed pro !!
@GingerDrums
@GingerDrums 3 жыл бұрын
wow that boy really knows his stuff. No device too irritating, patience of an angel and great taste to boot
@rekocastren923
@rekocastren923 5 ай бұрын
So much knowledge right here. No replicating that 90's Jungle sound without the HARDWARE!!!! Big Up!
@GiantsOrbiting
@GiantsOrbiting 4 ай бұрын
Living Legend. N4 records. True artist.
@MikeD-hn9hf
@MikeD-hn9hf Жыл бұрын
Of all the music I've listened to during my 40 years on this planet it is Jungle that I have remained most in awe of. What a sound. I just figured the OGs were magicians.
@LasseHuhtala
@LasseHuhtala 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I miss using ProTracker: The sample manipulation is so incredibly easy in a tracker compared to a DAW:
@hamishmacdonald8593
@hamishmacdonald8593 3 жыл бұрын
And for those who aren’t quite looking for a full tracker/want to integrate their daw, we have ReDux
@SpeccyMan
@SpeccyMan 3 жыл бұрын
There is a version of ProTracker 2.3D that runs on a PC. ;-)
@theshyguy1580
@theshyguy1580 3 жыл бұрын
@@SpeccyMan same with Fasttracker 2.
@V_A_N_C_E
@V_A_N_C_E 3 жыл бұрын
Could you explain the benefits for those of us who have never used a tracker?
@LasseHuhtala
@LasseHuhtala 3 жыл бұрын
@@V_A_N_C_E I'd say it's the immediacy and the ease of editing. It's basically a sampler synth with a built in sequencer. With the older trackers it's none of the opening a project, creating channels, routing this and that. It's just load a sample and go, start doodling.
@mshanth
@mshanth 3 жыл бұрын
THIS blew my mind. I spent so much time on amigas sampling. i think the demo scene and the music from it, was such a large part of the dance scene that never gets mentioned.
@Foebane72
@Foebane72 Жыл бұрын
I'm absolutely in LOVE with the Amiga Demoscene, I have hundreds of examples of top Amiga music from it myself, but it is quite an unknown resource for computer music. I think they like it that way.
@KingMob4313
@KingMob4313 Жыл бұрын
See I never had an idea, I thought mod trackers were only used for demo music and games, I had no idea it was used in major releases and the like!
@tweeleaf
@tweeleaf 6 ай бұрын
watching him play that 808 state tune put a massive grin on my face
@Mrpsblobsoflowendmung
@Mrpsblobsoflowendmung 3 жыл бұрын
This is literally how I grew up in the early 90s, Atari Cubase S1100, 2 x S950 , Casio FZ10M and a Kong M1 and Roland SH09 for Bass. Made hundreds of records that way from 90-96 . . This is proper trip down memory lane
@kristianTV1974
@kristianTV1974 3 жыл бұрын
Put out a few tunes in the early 90s myself, s950, Juno 106, roland u20, some ensoniq thing I can't remember, ry30 drum machine and a roland mc50 mkii hw seq. Never got paid for them, but copies go for 70 quid on Discogs now grrr..
@_Trakman
@_Trakman 24 күн бұрын
Can I hear your jams?
@LoftyVisions
@LoftyVisions 3 жыл бұрын
This video takes me back to '97 writing a whole album using Cubase 1 on an Atari ST with an Ensoniq ASR10 and a Technics WSA1. Thanks for the memories 😁👍
@Foebane72
@Foebane72 Жыл бұрын
21:08 LOVE the Amiga jungle here! As the Amiga Demosceners would yell: "AAAMMIIIIIIIIIIGAAAAA!!!"
@jive499
@jive499 9 ай бұрын
absolutely awesome. this just shows how differently they had to work back in the day to make this great music. God bless you Pete Cannon for sharing this and reviving 1992. very cool tour of the old samplers and gear. Octamed was classic
@peterfinch7984
@peterfinch7984 3 жыл бұрын
I used to use octamed back in the day but using the built in sampler. I remember when the memory got low it wouldnt let you trim the start of the sample so we had to reverse the sample so the start was at the end,it would let you trim the end and then re-reverse it again to normal........was a ball ache but work around lol
@bigrick4905
@bigrick4905 3 жыл бұрын
i was in my teens and had a Amiga 1200 in the early 90s and was really into jungle. never knew it could do this till years later. it was mainly used for sensible soccer and lemmings
@mano123456
@mano123456 3 жыл бұрын
Sensible Soccer!! Lemmings!!
@DesiLofi
@DesiLofi 3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever play The Chaos Engine?!
@mano123456
@mano123456 3 жыл бұрын
@@DesiLofi I can't remember...
@bigrick4905
@bigrick4905 3 жыл бұрын
@@DesiLofi yes i did, that's brought back memories. i can remember having it on a copy but not really getting into it and playing for some reason
@TomFooleryTheAustere
@TomFooleryTheAustere 3 жыл бұрын
Jungle changed my life in so many ways. I’ll never stop loving this music.
@Fvkhh
@Fvkhh 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 42 and was at college doing music technology in 94 using all the above.. Back then only a few made tunes.. Its out of control now with making tunes on iPhones etc. It's too easy these days.. I prefer the old days.. The best days for independent labels and vinyl production. Ah well, at least we were there.. Respect to all
@antenorsalas8074
@antenorsalas8074 3 жыл бұрын
Truly a craftsman. Wonder how he incorporates his sega genesis in his music.
@Milesyamiga
@Milesyamiga 3 жыл бұрын
Mega Drive ;)
@MrShiffles
@MrShiffles 3 жыл бұрын
never had an Amiga, but loved messing around with DOS apps like Screamtracker and Fasttracker back in the day...Respect to all the folks who made awesome tunes on the old hardware/software! \m/
@Foebane72
@Foebane72 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE the Amiga's unique sound from Paula, a versatile sound chip with PCM samples released in 1985!
@dh1380
@dh1380 3 жыл бұрын
I was barely a teenager when all this was going on but I remember reading Future Music magazine and wanting an Akai sampler... No way would I have had the patience to deal with all that!
@brianspenst1374
@brianspenst1374 3 жыл бұрын
I have been listening to this kind of music since about 93 and I always wondered how they made it. Cool stuff.
@marcvallely3977
@marcvallely3977 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, the sight of OctaMED; so nostalgic - used to love messing around with that and ProTracker on my Amiga
@mano123456
@mano123456 3 жыл бұрын
OKTALYZER for me ... With a sampler box a friend made for me... Memories...
@BlezzBeats
@BlezzBeats 3 жыл бұрын
Huge respect for this guy for doing what he does how he does, aand taking it to a different level imo
@SONWU
@SONWU 3 жыл бұрын
good too see you mate!
@smakusdod
@smakusdod Жыл бұрын
Credit to SoS for creating this amazing documentation of the scene. Great art deserves to be preserved and documented.
@Comakino
@Comakino Жыл бұрын
It's really interesting to me that people still kinda remember this music, but have largely forgotten how anyone actually put it together - a bit like old 1950s guitars being kinda ignored as old-fashioned for a while, but now they're worth tonnes of money. Of course people do collect old techno tech in the same way, but it'd be good to see more modern reproductions that were a bit more affordable
@Kj16V
@Kj16V Жыл бұрын
This guy is an absolute treasure
@nocuh
@nocuh 3 жыл бұрын
S950 samples, especially when time stretched, are what I associate with THE sound of jungle
@hiphophobbyklub
@hiphophobbyklub 3 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@jonesconrad1
@jonesconrad1 3 жыл бұрын
@@hiphophobbyklub hahahahah
@LlewynDaviesTheThird
@LlewynDaviesTheThird 3 жыл бұрын
Check out Akaizer app
@Jamp33
@Jamp33 3 жыл бұрын
He's so passionate about all his samplers and kit, its great to see
@damascusdupont1234
@damascusdupont1234 3 жыл бұрын
This vid right here is heaven for the old geezer I have now become...(47) But it really shows how the workflow and creativity have now changed...the process was way different back then. Shopping for 1$ vinyls at the flea markets, then the long sampling and editing sessions to make yourself a bank...wasn't too long to fill a floppy disk on my 950 but when I finally got Zip disk via SCSI on my Emu 64 that was something else. I remember clearly sampling some rather soft kicks from some 60's record only to have them come out super hard trough the AD converters from the 950. Man I swear nothing sampled like these old Akai's for hard knocking compressed sounds.
@djrkcryt2568
@djrkcryt2568 2 жыл бұрын
16:40 I WANNA KNOW IF THAT SONG IS AN ACTUAL SONG RELEASE BECAUSE IT BE A MF BOP
@hijodedios51206
@hijodedios51206 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. I’ve been waiting for a while now.
@zerix01
@zerix01 3 жыл бұрын
You actually gave me loads of techniques that I can use on my Octatrack.
@jamesfield1674
@jamesfield1674 Жыл бұрын
Such a great host love his energy
@rektagon1547
@rektagon1547 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of this dude, never really listened to Jungle before, but the algorithm brought me here and I"m so happy it did.
@thomasberner5282
@thomasberner5282 3 жыл бұрын
These instruments and sounds are as timeless as a Strat or a Space Echo!
@yandman26
@yandman26 3 жыл бұрын
I started my music production course in '98, I remember my tutor, who was a Jungle DJ/ Producer talking about the tedium of doing all of this in the early '90s. Very interesting to see it done. And as someone that grew up in the Rave era truly fascinating thinking of all those producers battling against this machinery and just how difficult it was to create really good tracks.
@valantj
@valantj 2 ай бұрын
"One Atari to rule them all!" :) Seriously, great video, thanx!! :)
@DamianMellor
@DamianMellor 3 жыл бұрын
I spent my teens and 20's producing all kinds of electronic music on hardware sequencers and samplers. Watching this as a grumpy old 47 years is a brutal reminder of all the hours of living, loving and sleeping I missed back then ... waiting for bloody audio files to process and samples to load! ;)
@MattGreerMusic
@MattGreerMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this did my heart well. Dude is true head for the music and is now a historian and preservationist for the process as well. Very cool stuff all around. P.S. If you like making 8-bit, 4 ch. Jungle, the PO-33 KO pocket sized sampler from Teenage Engineering is absolutely killer for old school Jungle.
@elissitdesign
@elissitdesign Жыл бұрын
I remember the 90s too well. This situation would have never happened. Producers acted like they had some special witchcraft behind the door. Producers were so damn secretive!
@freddieleethompson3536
@freddieleethompson3536 Жыл бұрын
OMG this took me back to 89. I spent hours on that sequencer.
@tech1238
@tech1238 3 жыл бұрын
Golden video right here
@gebhardmeilinger8578
@gebhardmeilinger8578 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a real music/producer studio ! Music before audio-treatment and high-end gears !
@jamessisson3703
@jamessisson3703 3 жыл бұрын
Oh this takes me back. I used an Amiga in the very early 90's. It was like a Fairlight for kids with limited resources. Started with Octamed and later got Music X, a Roland D10 and an Ensoniq Mirage. A Tascam four track and a sync unit. It seems I had more complete results with that, than with my modern Cubase setup. I think the limitations made people try a bit harder, structurally.
@tombaye
@tombaye Жыл бұрын
my mans be killing them P's, K's, and C's. natural raw beatbox talent
@mm7wabanamateurradiowomble30
@mm7wabanamateurradiowomble30 Жыл бұрын
Great to see and hear the good old gear still doing it's thing. Was heavily involved in early rave scene and used to make samplers & hardware for others. Was so much fun from around 1987 to 1997 , built a helluva lot of hardware in the early days of MIDI until around 2000 by which time I shifted my focus to video production. Watched this video and have just dusted off the old OctaMED and am now going to dive into the old archive discs from back in the day. already see a stack of classic rave, jungle, breakbeat & house goodies that will no doubt confuse the heck out the rest of the village as I give it plenty with the ol' tunes.. Inspired by Pete getting the old gear out I can see it is going to get noisy in here !.. Might even copy a bunch of the old samples into the modular synth sample sequencer module and knock together some new stuff with 30+ year old samples .. BRILLIANT !
@mrkey-music
@mrkey-music 3 жыл бұрын
He is so great working with that stuff nowadays but that's why his sound is so distinctive and original!
@djmadwax
@djmadwax 3 жыл бұрын
The bit he’s put together at 12:31 sounds more raw authentic and hardcore than any dnb released in the past 5 years. Change my mind
@banton9368
@banton9368 3 жыл бұрын
Stops the track “so thats like a little sequence ive done there” 🤣🤣
@z00h
@z00h 3 жыл бұрын
@@damianb2374 Damian on that "I think I'm intelligent" trip. Keep rambling on babey.
@damianb2374
@damianb2374 3 жыл бұрын
@@z00h 'babey'. Do you listen to trance or traveller music.
@z00h
@z00h 3 жыл бұрын
@@damianb2374 traveller music? You mean do I listen to The Corrs?
@rippspeck
@rippspeck 3 жыл бұрын
​@@z00h >"I think I'm intelligent" trip Pretty ironic, don't you think?
@headwerkn
@headwerkn 5 ай бұрын
That was sick. Takes me right back to the days of Atari STs, Cubase, Yamaha TG50s and Roland S series samplers. And cassette four tracks!
@joelonsdale
@joelonsdale Жыл бұрын
What a stellar video - full of vibe, nostalgia and great fun tunes that remind me of being 16 years old riding around on my 50cc motorbike and listening to those sounds on my mates decks... And, of course, having a bit of a smoke!
@marleypumpkin4917
@marleypumpkin4917 Жыл бұрын
You rode around on a bike listening to sounds on a deck? w@W !!!!!!!
@joelonsdale
@joelonsdale Жыл бұрын
@@marleypumpkin4917 Yep, that was one hell of a motorcycle!!
@SP3NLOV3
@SP3NLOV3 3 жыл бұрын
My god these sounds take me back to my youth, huge big ups for this one....loved it
@CoolDudeClem
@CoolDudeClem 3 жыл бұрын
I feel so OLD seeing this refered to as "retro", I still clearly remember when this shit was new!
@jimmythebold589
@jimmythebold589 3 жыл бұрын
i just started listening to DnB and jungle and most other forms of EDM in the last year or two, at my advanced age, so it's all new to me!!!
@uhis1686
@uhis1686 3 жыл бұрын
meanwhile i'm here wishing i was around back then
@timshady7099
@timshady7099 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimmythebold589 Thats awesome that you're listening to DnB, but don't lump it in with EDM. Us old geezers hate that term.
@georgeespley9177
@georgeespley9177 3 жыл бұрын
Tim Shady Same mate although I'm not quite an old geezer yet I hate when jungle gets lumped in with edm!
@njsynthesis
@njsynthesis 3 жыл бұрын
Hello again. I see you all over.
@John_Smith2302
@John_Smith2302 Жыл бұрын
Brings back some good memories - Hopa & Bones.
@slymega28
@slymega28 Ай бұрын
I’m 51 and remember the scene well 😊 and love the video. Now 3 years later we have the Amiga VST, absolut 🔥
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