How To Make A Big Muff Work Live

Here is an example of how to make a Big Muff work better in a live situation. I used a 70s Strat with a JB Jr. pickup in the bridge played through a 70s JMP 100 Watt Marshall (25 Watt speaker cab). I am using a 70s Big Muff with a late 90s TS9 Tube Screamer. The Cry Baby is a fairly new 535Q model.

[@atticus1469]

Big muff+Converse? True grunge!

[@jaredgreer2437]

Atticus i believe it's spelled trve grvnge

[@swissarmyknight4306]

@@jaredgreer2437 Winnar

[@thatdamnguy9566]

@@swissarmyknight4306 U a winnor

[@LyleStandley]

@@thatdamnguy9566 ur da winer

[@alexmalch]

@@LyleStandley ur a vinner

[@tiborrisko7349]

Muff cuts the mids, but the TS puts them back, this is why it cuts through more. When you add the wah, you can boost the treble so it will cut through even more. Great trick, I also do this all the time.Cheers John!

[@cactus-mcjacktus]

the Tubescreamer also cuts a lot of bass, which the Muff boosts a lot, so it helps tighten it up and add some of the mids back in.

[@lifeunderthestarstv]

Thanks for explaining what this video tried to explain haha

[@18JR78]

An EQ pedal can make fine adjustments, im not dismissing the tube screamer or wah though. They sound good 👌🏽

[@herrsitar]

So THAT'S how Billy Corgan got that solo sound on the Siamese dream record. Have been wondering since the 90s. Thanks.

[@VirtualWoodshed]

Joel Sahlin huh! That's funny! I knew that tone sounded familiar.🤔. Thanks for clearing it up.

[@kierenmoore3236]

This, or an EQ ... that's all the cocked Wah is doing anyway; acting as a HF EQ booster ...

[@GabrielGAS1201]

billy used a op-amp muff, it have a different sound to normal transistor muffs, it have evem more gain, and also more highs/mids thats why is more on your face and so gainy. EHX just released a reissue of the op-amp muff.

[@davidjameschamberlain]

He actually commonly ran an MXR Distortion II with his big muff sounds

[@tom1957]

@@davidjameschamberlain that's for his lead tones. Like a boost. Along with a phase 100

[@swissarmyknight4306]

Putting an overdrive in front of the muff is a great idea. The hi-pass filter in the overdrive keeps the muff from compressing all that sludgy low end. Also works great with compressors and can be done with an eq pedal as well. Its basically eq before compression, which yields a much better signal in my experience. My guitar signal almost always passes through a Blues Driver (or other overdrive) with the gain really low first, even for cleans, so the amp isn't hit with excess low end, and it works even better with a muff.

[@johngidlund]

Swiss Army Knight Nice, thanks for checking out the video!

[@CaptPostmod]

Another way is to put an EQ pedal AFTER the Muff to pull the mids back out and push the other frequencies back down if needed. (Definitely not saying either way's better. Just sharing another effective technique for those who are interested.)

[@lovecraftmusic8717]

Yeah, I would prefer this method... The ts9 (or any od for that matter) would serve for tightening the sound and the eq for more definition.

[@VirtualWoodshed]

I've owned a big muff for years but never been able to use it due to the mid range scoop. I can't wait to try this! Thanks for the tip!

[@levgtz8158]

A TubeScremer will only increase the mids, a lot. I think something like MojoMojo after the Muff will be better (not before, since you can't process Muff with the OD if is connected otherwise)

[@bassrocking]

I just crank the mids on my amp. With or without big muff, it always helps to cut through. I also find the big muff to have its fulliest sound when the tone is almost at zero.

[@ironmikesims]

Big Muffs are awesome. You can use them in so many different ways. I have a modded one (LEDs in the compression/diode section, boosted mids) and would keep the sustain minimal, but volume high and put it into my old Sunn Model T's as a "boost". The tone was ungodly.

[@Diax1324]

Also: A cool sound might be placing the muff in front of the wah. You can get some really odd shit happening there.

[@ddawglee]

I did that once and opened up a black hole in my room

[@pacogavina2786]

John frusciante used a similar thing. He putted the ds2 in a fuzzy configuration in front of the wah and it sounded AMAZING

[@davidjameschamberlain]

J Mascis is a perfect example of this

[@cactus-mcjacktus]

putting a wah after all your distortion accentuates the filter sweep more, whereas when you put it before distortion the filter sweep itself kinda gets lost. my favourite example of wah after distortion is Planes Over The Skyline by Swervedriver. The wah is really accentuated, but it still sounds great. Same with bass distortion and envelope filters, the filter always sounds better after distortion.

[@scotscub76]

@@ddawglee 😂

[@johnsonjaymusic]

Could never work out how to make the muff sound anything other than synth like. Thanks a lot!

[@scguitars]

A man of culture I see 😎 The 3 pedal types I actually own 😅

[@rfaelkabir]

I spend all my life trying to find this Pumpkins sound. Thank you!

[@ShaneStoneOfficial]

You need a switchless wah broski. Game changer

[@johngidlund]

Totally need to!

[@thombailey6264]

sounds groovy! big BMP fan, here. love em. but i just build my own and tweek. -lol easiest way to get rid of the mid range 'notch', or scoop, is to change the resistor of the high-pass filter in the tone stack to 100k and it flattens it out. --or whatever value you might favor. keep rockin

[@oaeoeaoRust]

But that scoop is what makes the muff what it is!!? Lose the scoop and get a DS-2 instead. Muff lovers love the mid scoop.

[@randyjamz1448]

+Thom Bailey You can flatten the mids and it still sounds like a Muff. With the TS9 boosting the mids, didn't it still sound like a Muff? I do it by changing the capacitor (C8 on the board) from 10nF to 4.7nF and it works amazingly well. I keep a stock Muff and compared to my modded one, the modded one just sounds thicker or fuller, but still has that Muff buzz, which is three stages of diode clipping.

[@metalfuryskulls]

Funny, I actually accidentally did this last night at a rehearsal. I'd left the wah on by mistake and thought it was set as a volume pedal, so had pulled it back a little and the Muff tone was cutting through really nicely :-D

[@strawsparky33]

got a '69 fender bassman 50w going through a 4x12 mg series marshall cab with this exact setup plus a compressor and a reverb pedal. put amp at 7 on treble and bass and let the pedals eat. pure classic tone, i can almost get plexi tones out of it.

[@foofy14]

Everything about that was cool as fuck

[@samharrington1186]

do the exact same thing with my tubescreamer and big muff. Good video man!

[@rodrigovalladaressandoval3056]

Sam Harrington hey bro, what about a boss sd1? Would it work?7

[@granthambeard]

The intro music makes me sing "something tells me I'm into something good" so that's nice

[@cOzAtS]

I just got a Green Russian and a CryBaby and was thinking about getting a TS-9 for this exact use! Thanks for confirming my idea!

[@rndm7528]

If considering buying a Big Muff , get the Big Muff Deluxe , they are pretty fairly priced in the used market . Its are basically your everyday classic NYC Big Muff + plus a switchable mid eq section and a few other things I love that pedal

[@DamnedIntrovert]

Thanks, for making this video, John. This video helped me decide upon getting a Maxon OD-9 to boost my Big Muff Pi NYC.

[@michael_caz_nyc]

Nice Demo. Clearly explained. I have the Thorpy FX Fallout Cloud and it is a Super High Quality Vintage Big Muff with Tremendous Tone Shaping as it has separate Bass & Treble knobs - which are very musical. Awesome pedal.

[@john-michael2330]

Tube screamer and a big muff is my favorite tone cool video thanks

[@daveEmartin]

Also a treble booster after a Muff/Fuzz peddle helps to boost the mids, since muffs and most fuzz peddles have more of a scooped tone frequency.

[@Nightingale1887]

Gnarly tones & Clever use of the TS-9. I like it.

[@fishingwithdipshoe1943]

I don’t know the technical aspects but love the Muff and Tube Screamer combo (now I need a Wah)

[@danieljwillen1993]

So a distortion pedal to boost the pedal, but instead of doing it after the muff in the chain, you go before. Not bad.

[@nutnfan1]

***** The Tube Screamer isn't a distortion pedal. It is an overdrive. It is much lower grade when it comes to what it does to the signal. A distortion pedal would be like 3 tube screamers combined to make the signal dirty nasty, if that makes sense. Tube screamers can be used as a clean boost or a light overdrive sound, but not a heavy metal sound when used alone like a true distortion pedal will do.

[@davidfewtrell3479]

Hmm - I use a Big Muff with a Wah in front of it as well. I know what you mean about the Big Muff not cutting through. I have a Bad Monkey which I am guessing put in front of the Big Muff should act in a similar way to your Tube Screamer. I'll have to give it a go

[@SkullServant98]

Very Pumpkins :D

[@artureiro_only]

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[@holdenbrowning7200]

I use a Big Muff for rhythm tone and a DS-1 stacked on it with an MXR Phase 90 for solos

[@johngidlund]

Phase 90 is another great trick for sure 🤘

[@Lewis-vv8sc]

Cool DS1 before or after Big muff ?

[@fodaseodinheiro]

This is really solid advice.

[@kingsecho3351]

I like this idea! I always had trouble pushing the big muff signal live. We used to play Today and it really needed that punch

[@rareform6747]

Dude that muff is the same I owned in 78 my recordings were nice and easy to mix . I always play overdrives with some tube dirt . Now just today got the OP MUFF & More Head Room Wow ..

[@jagaire]

Thanks John. i have yet to try the big muff with tone wicker live but just using it to write songs i have to say it's my favorite muff ever.

[@silvazuao]

that wah bit was sick. never really wanted one until now

[@johngidlund]

Thanks 🤘

[@daviddolnics726]

Why aren't Tube screamers called Mid Buffs then? That should be totally legit.

[@matthewkennedy7283]

I pieced this together in my head when I got my first muff, glad other people use it like this. Unfortunately it doesn’t sound as good with a tube screamer

[@sleestak284]

what pedal do you suggest?

[@matthewkennedy7283]

@@sleestak284 I had some luck running an mxr distortion plus for a little mid peak, just watch out for the treble

[@FlamingZebra101]

Thank you so much for this video, I can't even express how big of a help it has been

[@VangeliRock]

Nice tone, I like the wah idea, I use a Keeley Compressor just before the big muff and kick it in during solo's if needed, never thought of trying the wah just as method to cut through, great idea, will give er a shot! Can here some of my big muff tones on some of my demo recordings if anyone interested.

[@pimvandeburgt2966]

Nice! I also like the guitar sound of the intro (Redfords) in this video, what is used there?

[@johngidlund]

The intro is is the same setup as this video, TS9 into Big Muff (doubled left and right). I also have a drop D guitar in the middle using a Fuzz Face.

[@sinyo_yoga]

Thanks John.. it's work too for boss SD1 1981 + Big muff vintage 1979 🙏🙏🙏

[@al271987]

Yup, that’s a cool trick. I’ve done the same with my boss SD-1. It also works great for that purpose.

[@compulsor5853]

Epic solution, precisely concise presentation. Thank you

[@josephturner9012]

One thing to know is it's not about sound,it's about tone.Sound is dead, tone is Alive. I m sure you know what is up as a musician.but in all my years when you solo you don't want a particular sound,you want tone . but who really cares what I think.

[@miciaha1234]

Thanks dude this really helped I noticed it wasn't cutting as much as I liked so I'm going to chain my ts-9 after now and try.

[@MrVersipellis]

I'm in love with this sound! 😍😍😍 Thank you!!!

[@shreddersteve2663]

The reason I use a big muff with a TS9 is because they just work so beautifully together!!

[@pedroolmos3685]

Absolutely anything + TS9 = Good

[@johngidlund]

So true 🤘

[@ovidiujinga8699]

Clearest explanation ever! 🔥

[@shotgunrebels]

Used to run this exact setup into a vintage Marshall and orange cab .back in 1990.

[@johngidlund]

Very nice 🤘

[@shotgunrebels]

It’s funny all the rack gear guitar guys back than used to make fun of my stuff. Things sure did change. I sold that 70’s big muff and original TS9 a few years back for a whole lot more than I paid for them. Same with the old orange 4x12. Great video and spot on.

[@geronimo3641]

Can i do this with a big muff and a BOSS DS-1? also getting a vox wah pedal.

[@gazeunderthesunmusic]

I love to add a gated/reverse Reverb, a bit delay like a memory man and tremolo to give shoegaze sound

[@Fendera1]

Killer sound! Got my big muff yesterday and im so happy with it :D

[@scarsaturati9705]

Someone is a Smashing Pumpkins fan.

[@potatoheadhaoy]

One of my favorite tones on a big muff is with the wah fully down on the treble position, on a single coil neck pickup. Gives it like a super dirty blues tone. It sounds noisy as shit but the tone is absolutely screaming.

[@johngidlund]

Yeah, a wah is so good with a Muff 🤘

[@STINKYPETE500X]

Would I get the same effect if I blended a Big Muff with my brighter DS2 tones? (The Boss DS2)

[@blipblipblip4892]

Actually yes john frusciante sometimes combined that big muff and ds2 for warmer and awesome sound

[@joeyt5427]

Rose Anabeza Just tried this and finally got what I’ve been desiring out of my big muff lol, thanks a lot man.

[@blipblipblip4892]

Joey T no probs 🙂

[@gemather]

You may try the same with a Hot Tubes from EHX. Roll the tone pot over to the treble side and boost your Muff with it. Felt comfortable to me.

[@gemather]

+gemather Another possibility to treble boost the Muff is with a Muff Overdrive.

[@kenny6920]

You can also just crank your amp, depending on the amp of course. I believe Jimi used his muff with his JTM fully gained out.

[@justwiln]

Is that Green one a Maxon? My producer has one we use for distortion, nice sound

[@johngidlund]

It is a late 90’s Ibanez TS9. I think I bought it about 1997.

[@kalebskungfucinema]

What’s your setting for the Tube Screamer? I’ve seen a lot of people turn the drive all the way down, but I can’t tell if you’re using some drive or not here.

[@johngidlund]

Kaleb Bryant the drive is 1/4 up so just a slight breakup... the volume is about 3/4 up. Tone about 1/4 up.

[@jacoblopez659]

I do this, but I use a BOSS DS-2 instead of a Tube Screamer.

[@ciaranwright4361]

Jacob Lopez do u think that would work w a DS1

[@rodrigovalladaressandoval3056]

the best man i've got the same question. I wanna buy a sd1 to use it with my muff, what do you think guys?

[@manualofalternativemusic]

Rodrigo Valladares Sandoval It cuts a lot through the mix with a DS-1 pushing it. These two pedals were all I used during my early days as a guitar player in a band. It sounds great. Creates some feedback, but just throw chords or solos that you’ll be fine. A big muff and a DS-1, I loved this combination

[@rodrigovalladaressandoval3056]

finally I bought a joyo vintage overdrive and it's working great so far!

[@manualofalternativemusic]

Rodrigo Valladares Sandoval That’s a good choice! One thing I love about the big muff is that it works well with almost everything you put after or behind in the signal path

[@kevinpaul1719]

I have a Big Muff on the way and bought because I hear people like it. I am trying to learn about so I can jump on it like I know what I am doing.

[@johngidlund]

I still think the muff is still one of the biggest baddest pedals around! Enjoy!

[@rosslinchapel]

Hi, the wah is the first in the chain? Wah>ts9>big muff? Thx

[@johngidlund]

@@rosslinchapel You got it 🤘

[@michellelehky2374]

Does this idea apply to bass as well? I love my big muff but I keep getting drowned out whenever I use it.

[@johngidlund]

I am not sure on the bass question but I personal like the Russian made Muffs better for bass. Not sure what version you are using at the moment.

[@UlrimatestrategyHD]

Michelle Lehky A clean blend would be best for bass

[@rileyjordan8114]

Michelle Lehky a regular muff will eliminate your bass frequencies, so a clean blend is what you need.

[@scottudell7202]

I would say to give the Bass Big Muff a shot, or a good Russian Muff.

[@bennyvandelocht4242]

Great demonstraton, helped me a lot!

[@LHsweiss]

TONE WORTHY!!! F'IN LOVE IT

[@gabrielazzopardi6037]

Its a funny way how you use 2 pedals that costs about 3 times each the price of the muff just to make it sound better. Anyway, you did really improve the sound. You can also use an EQ instead still costs 3 times of the muff but it gives you more flexibility. Best used in the effects loop (in my opinion).

[@javiceres]

Actually a 70s Muff like that doubles or triples the cost of the other two pedals together.

[@blviking56]

you put the big muff in effects loop?

[@mattgilbert7347]

EQ in the loop, I assume.

[@BricksAndSparrows]

Even better to put EQ after the muff to bring your mids back. But you do sacrifice that fuzz sound and end up with a distortion that’s just a bit on the fuzzy side.. almost like a RAT or DS1.

[@sethdusith6093]

Hey, I do that wah trick too lol! awesome!

[@themeltdownz8901]

I have the big muff and TS but I also have a spark booster pedal would that be able to do something similar to what you're using the wahh pedal for?

[@johngidlund]

The Spark is a cool pedal but might be closer to the TS9 in how it pushes the Muff. A wah pedals give you some many overtones and feedback for solos that is hard to achieve with any standard overdrive pedal.

[@themeltdownz8901]

@@johngidlund thanks. I'm new to stacking pedals I've only ever added one at a time time to my bass or guitar

[@flyingbottles675]

Nice demonstration. I also noticed that your converse is the same model as my favorate old ones which I would like to buy one more; however, unfortunately, I can't find our same one anymore. Do you know the model name or where to buy please?

[@johngidlund]

I can’t remember what Converse... been so long and they fell apart a bit ago.

[@nunoharris]

Hi. What are the settings of the Big Muff and the TS 9 ? Thanks

[@johngidlund]

S9 is set as follows: Drive 1/4 up, Volume is 3/4 up and Tone is 1/4 up. All the vintage muffs are different in terms of knob placement (I have owned 3 vintage and 3 reissue). The one in the video has all the knobs 3/4 up. Hopefully that helps to get close enough.

[@ripley7t429]

First a nice dinner, then a good movie, then drinks afterwards, oh, sorry wrong Big Muff. Yeah agree with your recommendations.

[@johngidlund]

Ha ha, funny!

[@mattgushie18]

i use my wah the same way with the big muff

[@metalehead95]

do i need a tube screamer if i play on low volumes at my bedroom? or from times to times on a studio plugged to a 120 watt cabinet?

[@johngidlund]

+metalehead95 I think the Tube Screamer helps at any volume even when recording. I pretty much never turn the TS9 off.

[@kinochdotcom]

Good setup, but that was a solo?

[@scotthutch3682]

I discovered this by accident (ts > muff)- this just confirms I was right gotta try that wah trick though - thanks!

[@levgtz8158]

So Big Muff can be used as any other pedal, in your rig's chain, then to the amp. Cool.

[@notcampbell7480]

Bro I do this, as soon as you talked about using the tube screamer as a mid/treble boost I felt like I wasn't the odd one out. Question, is this method common and I just haven't heard of it or should more people start doing it?

[@johngidlund]

I think this method is generally referred to as “stacking distortion pedals” so it’s not completely a secret. I would say this is more a common practice when you’re dealing with a clean amp and you want to have varing levels of distortion.

[@mothmanpowerbomb4757]

I was thinking about doing this but instead of the TS I'd use the Soul Food pedal. Any opinions?

[@johngidlund]

John Lennons corpse I have not used that pedal but knowing what it is, that sounds like great choice since it doesn’t over color your sound!

[@jimtroeltsch5998]

God I love the big muff. It's soooooooooooo good. I like to use an overdrive before hand, even a morning glory or a blues driver. Not a huge fan of the tube screamer pushing it, but I should try it more.

[@johngidlund]

It is the biggest baddest pedal ever made! 🤘

[@jimtroeltsch5998]

@@johngidlund It is also the raddest pedal ever made!

[@MattyVicious1]

You know what setting you had that TS set to?

[@johngidlund]

@@MattyVicious1 TS9 is set as follows: Drive 1/4 up, Volume is 3/4 up and Tone is 1/4 up. All the vintage muffs are different in terms of knob placement (I have owned 3 vintage and 3 reissue). The one in the video has all the knobs 3/4 up. Hopefully that helps to get close enough.

[@ederbofete4833]

That's a good trick, I'm doing that now actually ....... tell me man, what is the settings in both pedals?

[@johngidlund]

TS9 is set as follows: Drive 1/4 up, Volume is 3/4 up and Tone is 1/4 up. All the vintage muffs are different in terms of knob placement (I have owned 3 vintage and 3 reissue). The one in the video has all the knobs 3/4 up. Hopefully that helps to get close enough.

[@manilatoaster6731]

Thank you, I really appreciate this video.

[@rbailey1010]

what are your knob positions on both big muff and ts9? are you using the ts9 more as a clean boost and letting the big muff provide the dirt?

[@johngidlund]

+Ryan Bailey One of things I'll say about the vintage big muffs is every single one is different. I have owned three vintage and each one had a very different position for the knobs. This mostly had to do with the varied components used. With that being said I had volume on 2 o'clock, tone on 10 o'clock, and sustain about 10 o'clock as well. The Tube Screamer helps brighten up the Muff a bit so that is sorta compensated by the lower tone position (if that makes sense). The tsp give the amp just a little bit of saturation, think The Seeker by the Who

[@rbailey1010]

+John Gidlund what settings for the tubescreamer ?

[@johngidlund]

+Ryan Bailey With the TS9 I usually have the drive and tone at 9 o'clock and level is at 3 o'clock. I will back off the volume on my guitar if I want to clean up a bit.

[@rbailey1010]

+John Gidlund you the man!

[@chrisslader5717]

really stupid question, would there be any drastic differences if i use a mini tube screamer ?

[@johngidlund]

Chris Slader my guess is it would work pretty good as well. The main thing you are doing is adding more sustain and EQ to the muff.

[@idomycr0sswordsinp3n]

hey man what were your settings on both the muff and the tube screamer?

[@johngidlund]

TS9 is set as follows: Drive 1/4 up, Volume is 3/4 up and Tone is 1/4 up. All the vintage muffs are different in terms of knob placement (I have owned 3 vintage and 3 reissue). The one in the video has all the knobs 3/4 up. Hopefully that helps to get close enough.

[@douglasarthur2673]

Woo-Hoo !!! Superfuzz BigMuff ! Now we’re talking !

[@joeyshaw5485]

Right. But you're trying retrieve the mids wouldn't you wanna put the ts after?

[@johngidlund]

Joey Shaw putting the TS after changes the sound of the Muff. With the TS before it just boosts and slightly changes the tonal characteristic of the Muff enough to cut through a bit better. Billy Corgan did a similar thing but with an MXR distortion for solos.

[@rodzam4059]

Have you tried with the Maxon 808???

[@AznagPT]

I use a Joyo Vintage Overdrive (ts808 clone) before the muff and yeah, you can tell the diference.

[@leonardcrainie9928]

You can use a klon type pedal as well , I use a ana sounds savage and the tone is phenomenal. The wah pedal is something interesting though !

[@avilabautista]

How do you set your ts9? Little drive and set the tone where it sounds best?

[@johngidlund]

With the TS9 I usually have the drive and tone at 9 o'clock and level is at 3 o'clock. I will back off the volume on my guitar if I want to clean up a bit.

[@drizztdourden1060]

U should try to go from the big muff to the ts

[@gabe2968]

A phaser on super low speed works the same sort of way with fuzz that the wah pedal. Also the OP amp big muff has a lot more presence in the mid range and sounds far better in general

[@BanjoDemon]

could also use an EQ with the mids boosted, and maybe a little gain boost

[@mattgilbert7347]

I have noise problems with both the TS and my Little Big Muff. Your tone is excellent, basically what I'm after. Billy Corgan tone or sometimes I want a kind of Dave Gilmour sound by adding a chorus or flanger and skipping the wah. Any suggestions for dealing with unwanted noise issues?

[@johngidlund]

I know what you are asking for sure, when combining the TS9 with the big muff (or even the big muff by itself) it is a pretty noisy pedal. There are noise gate pedals but they tend to choke the sound or don't help much. Honestly, I just got very good at shutting the pedal off in between pauses/breaks. The big thing is people don't notice live and in a studio situation you can edit that stuff out. I tend to pull back the gain of the Muff and TS9 because the combination is plenty of sustain! You can also roll back you volume on the guitar in between pauses and that tends to be enough. Hope that helps.

[@mattgilbert7347]

Thanks, man, I will have to convince the band that nobody will notice the noise and I have a pretty good loop switcher. Cuts down on "tapdancing". I've been playing around with a noise suppressor at the very end of the chain, doesn't choke the sound too much if I am using mods(for some reason) but if it is just OD and/or Fuzz, yeah, you lose something. I don't want to go to humbuckers even tho they are not as noisy because singles sound so good with gain stacking!

[@leeryan5667]

I run the big muff rams head into an xotic bb preamp into a clean but high mid eq'd amp and I get some cracking tones and sustain, add a bit of chorus and a carbon copy delay and Gilmour pulse tones all the way. I recently bought a Donner Sophgate noise suppressor, I run the big muff into the bb preamp on the Sophgates loop with pretty much all of the settings at their lowest and it does well to silence it between solos etc. Also by running it this way you can completely bypass both pedals with the Sophgate switch good for comfortably numb allowing rhythm into solo with one switch. I will put up a video if you were interested in hearing it?

[@hansinpatel1843]

I guess you could use a splitter so one side would fuzz, the other just a light overdrive and you would get a nice bite to the tone

[@youngsterjoey9038]

when I first got my BM3.14 I played through a marshall solid state and I hated it. Now i play it through my VOX AC tube and it's amazing. BMs are for sure made for tube amps! great tips!