How to Make a Lion's Mane Tincture (Our Organic Mushroom Tincture Process)

As a small batch tincture maker I've experienced a number of trials and tribulations which have all contributed to the development of the tincture process I demonstrate here on our lion's mane mushrooms. To learn even more than this video covers about our mushroom tincture formulation, including all variables that go into quality tincture-making, visit my page dedicated to mushroom tincture science here: birchboys.com/...
A few key notes I touch upon:
-Not all tinctures are made equal!
-Distilled Water & Organic Cane Alcohol are the best choices for natural water / alcohol solvents in our opinion.
-Don't use vodka. I firmly distrust any notion that an effective hot water / alcohol extraction can be completed in one clean swoop via soaking an herb or mushroom in 90 proof vodka. The logic is that since this is part alcohol and part water, you just soak it and get the best of both worlds, but it is flawed, and I would not call a plant or mushroom soaked in vodka an actual tincture.
-Hot water extractions and alcohol extractions are best performed separately and then combined together at a chosen ratio.
-Brew time in hot water is critical. A high temp is good, but it is probably best not to go TOO high.
Steady pump circulation or frequent stirring can go a long way
-Your alcohol soak inputs should be the same inputs in your hot water extraction. A mushroom that has already been brewed in hot water should then serve as the material going into the alcohol soak. Once broken down by the water, it will release alcohol soluble compounds much more efficiently compared to a mushroom dried in its original state.
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[@ale.ktheo.g4394]

So, you can make a total of 18liter of tincture from 2000g of mushroom powder, is that correct?

[@vladimirnagalin1546]

Need a list of lab supplies for this please

[@richardparis8738]

I just bought some lines made mushroom from you extract what a process

[@ToddFord-b4h]

Do you ever use ultra sonic extraction methods to speed up the process?

[@dudewheresmyplate8454]

Are you using the same amount of mushroom in both extractions? Not sure but looked like it was only 1 bag used for the alcohol and 4 bags used for the hot water extraction. If you have 14L liters of hot water. How many grams fresh mushroom do you use to extract?

[@sharmamadhus09]

so you're making 18 liters of tinctures from 2 kg mushroom which means 9 ML of the tincture has 1 Gram of mushroom. is that a good ratio for potency?

[@beentheredonethatoriginals5673]

This is much different than other dual extraction methods I've seen. Thanks for the info.

[@PHDsports]

Hi, I noticed you did your water extract first in your video before your alcohol extract process. Most other people do the reverse order in the extract process. Can you explain. Thanks and great video.

[@GnarGreen]

Great video! Awesome info. Do you have a link for that press and pot?

[@LeonPhythian69]

I have question, did you store your first batch of water filtered mushrooms in the fridge before you got the cycle going?

[@adamfroman7983]

Why don’t you dehydrate the mushrooms and powder the mushrooms with a coffee grinder or blender first? You can get so many more mushrooms to alcohol ratio, create more surface area, and start to break down the mushrooms..

[@GarrettKopp]

We do dehydrate them, and actually we do grind all the others before brewing, but I have learned that lion's mane in particular gets so extremely fine that it becomes an incredible mess when it comes to straining. The greater surface area definitely allows it to extract faster... But this is a personal preference for me when it comes to lions mane specifically. Hard to explain... I should make a new tincture video on my Chaga process

[@adamfroman7983]

@@GarrettKopp Maybe strain it with a nut milk bag squeezing out the alcohol leaving the pulp in the bag to throw away?

[@SanjayParmar-su2tn]

Can we substitute glycerine for alcohol? May concern is for the non alcoholic drinking customer.

[@HughJanus9999]

Theres a potential for contamination to form under about 30% alcohol within the tincture. Glycerin can be used as a preservative and you could potentially distill the completed dual exract tincture to remive the alchohol and then add a presevative afterward

[@samgardner8517]

Love your stuff and thanks for this vid! I was wondering where you got the tincture machine for the hot water extract.

[@patrickmaloney4073]

It's a Klarstein Bucket Fermenter

[@michaelsalbego9245]

Love the video, I was wondering what is the model and brand of your boiling kettle

[@eimantaskielius5634]

So as to my understanding, there has been used 2kg of dried lion's mane to create 18l of tincture?

[@GarrettKopp]

correct

[@farjer39]

Hi, this is more of a technical question. I have a Klarstein boiler that we used to brew with. How do you get past the 180 minute timer? How do you use it for 72 hours? Many thanks.

[@HughJanus9999]

Probably have to peridically reset the timer and add more water

[@staceymattis4357]

Them look lik3 chanterelles....not lions mane

[@adammorey7478]

Where can I get one of those duhickys

[@tylersathern1076]

How much Lions Mane did you start with? Ratio lions mane to alcohol? Ratio lions mane to water?

[@Neal-bg2uz]

13.5 litres water 4 litres alcohol I think he said he started with 500 grams at the start

[@GeraldSellers-r1z]

Most other tutorials show alcohol extraction first then water. Is there a specific reason you reverse the process doing the water first ? In small batch extraction (as I would do at home) using water first, How would you store the water extract safely while waiting for the alcohol process ? Thank You.

[@emanation]

Can you share the ratio of dried mushroom to water that goes into the boiling pot please? And what is the overall ratio of the alcohol extract to water extract when you combine, and finally how do you then rate the overall ratio of mushroom in the final mixed tincture? Thank you

[@-Free.Spirit-]

25grams of dried mushrooms to 500grams alcohol

[@patrickmaloney4073]

I suspect more could be gained from the whole organism. The cognitive benefits your product boasts are similar to what recent literature on the subject suggests are possible. Except those studies emphasize that you do not get the benefits of hericenones (in the fruit) unless you also ingest the erinacines (present in the mycelium) at the same time. Your process skips erinacines extraction completely. I'm not saying there aren't benefits to your extract. But the process could be improved and added onto. I also am suspicious of the 72 hour water simmer at 150°F, as it sounds like both of these compounds begin degrading at 150°F.

[@a23meme]

I do 2.5x Alcohol to 2.5x Water extract to maintain 1:5 dried mushroom(g) to final tincture (ml) ratio how different is it in terms of potency ?

[@firepoweru]

I do have a question about the process. So what if you don’t have alcohol already waiting to mix with the water soluble extract. How would you preserve it until the alcohol extract was ready? Do you see less of a benefit when doing the process in reverse? (Alcohol extract then the water extract)

[@timothylongmore7325]

He explains this in the video. Reasoning works for him but no reason not to do it the other way around. I think it works better on the smallscale to do alcohol first. Except for chaga which I use both methods now but used to do it the way Jarret demonstraded. Over lapping batches.

[@ianwynne5483]

Why not use a soxhlet instead of waiting 4 weeks for the alcohol soaked? Also why not grind dry mushrooms to increase surface area to improve extraction ?

[@Neal-bg2uz]

So this is 17.5 litres total. How much mushroom did you use? Thanks!

[@thomashorrock7221]

That was sick

[@katekinney2329]

Do you ever use Glycerin in place of alcohol? Being overly sensitive to alcohol, I'm looking for a substitute.

[@GarrettKopp]

Great question. I’m currently researching this further and will write a blog on the topic once I feel like I have an informed perspective on glycerin

[@Poppen000]

@@GarrettKoppany thoughts yet? I heard vinegar works too

[@chrispac6264]

How long would you typically soak in alcohol please?

[@paulwhite1977]

Why not use a soxhlet extractor for an instant and better extraction, then recycle the alcohol you could save your self so much time and wasted alcohol

[@ale.ktheo.g4394]

One question: How many days do you leave the mushroom on the alcohol?

[@tugitime]

How much vials can you make with 2 kg lions mane if you only do water extract dosing 500 mg per ml and 60 ml vial?

[@darkcity925]

Do you extract less nutrients if you use 40% vodka? 180 proof alcohol doesn't seem to be available in my neck of the woods, and if it is, it'll be very expensive.

[@-Free.Spirit-]

Try absinthe if you want a stronger alcohol that you can get from your local store. I totally disagree with his notion that vodka extraction doesnt work aswell!

[@darkcity925]

Well absinthe isn't available here either, at least not cheaply. I'll just make do with vodka (Singapore)@@-Free.Spirit-

[@josephdelange8497]

I'm a part of a mushroom tincture page on Facebook and the admins say that putting the tinctures in hot coffee isn't an issue. I understand alcohol burns off at 173°f but doesn't it leave the beneficial compounds behind? You mentioned concern about mixing the hot water extraction with the alcohol extraction while still hot. So, I'm getting conflicting information and really hoping to hear from someone that understands the chemistry. Thank you!

[@cwatkins4743]

Good point. I think part of wanting to keep the alcohol (around 25% minimum) in the tincture concoction itself is to preserve the shelf life of the tincture. At that ratio, it can be stored and used for over a year if put in a proper container, to whereas a water extraction tincture or one with much less alcohol will not last near as long. Once a (dual extracted) tincture is put in coffee, it is consumed right away so it doesn't matter if the alcohol burns off.

[@catherinenolan1337]

Can you explain why your not doing 1:1 alcohol and water devotion ratio?

[@sing2me96]

Is it possible to incorporate MCT oil into the alcohol and heat extraction process?

[@catherinenolan1337]

What is the name of you water extraction tincture machine and where can you buy one. Please and thankyou

[@Poppen000]

The magical butter machine works well

[@CheifinKeif]

hi just placed an order was awesome seeing the process!!!

[@sarzorro]

Do you grow your own mushrooms and if so what is your method.

[@jake_runs_the_world]

what is that hot water extraction machine called ?

[@MichaelR1975]

I do alcohol soak first

[@-Free.Spirit-]

So do I and there is nothing wrong with doing it this way.

[@tamilang5138]

I was wondering where I could purchase the press you used in this video

[@MrDannyd9]

7:40 Add salt to help dry the ethanol.

[@vladimirnagalin1546]

Where can I get that machine

[@pamelasternin4349]

It's curious that you do the water process first before the alcohol process, this is the first time I've seen that. I usually see the alcohol then water process. Why is it better to do hot water extract first then alcohol rather than the opposite?

[@Gvidas28]

Alcohol cannot penetrate chitin(mushroom cell wall) but hot water with pressure will break down chitin and then alcohol extraction can do it's work

[@johnweimer3249]

@@Gvidas28 How do you know that? Can you provide references. I’m quite sure that the medicinal properties of these mushrooms are amazing but in my research I am finding a complete lack of standardization. Everybody seems to know a little bit of something but it’s always a little bit different and nothing seems to be agreed-upon in totality. I guess medicinal mushrooms are still in the wild west categorization of medicinal substances.

[@Gvidas28]

sorry for this ad, it's just the only good product I can find in Europe

[@Gvidas28]

Although I find it odd that Garret does Chaga extraction with alcohol first

[@GarrettKopp]

@@Gvidas28 I do hot water first.

[@DebbieDooo]

Interesting to watch this process. I am a fan of the tinctures and buy as often as I can.

[@zidaniux]

Is there a reason why you do hot water extract before alcohol extracts? Just curious

[@darkcity925]

He explained it (albeit in a labyrinthine way) -- he does it on a staggered system. He has an alcohol extract from a previous batch ready to mix with the hot water extract he just finished.

[@raycooney1383]

What kind of machine is that tincture machine you have? I'm trying to make out the brand on it but can't quite see! Thank you

[@patrickmaloney4073]

It's a Klarstein Bucket Fermenter!

[@sekretsekretsekret]

amazing vid. good info.🥰

[@laurakirby1211]

Are your products legit and do they work

[@Poppen000]

Dude obviously hes literally showing the entire process

[@timothylongmore7325]

Do some research. I think mine work. I don't know about his stuff.

[@nrsrchd]

Equipment link!

[@patrickmaloney4073]

That there is a Klarstein Bucket Fermenter :)

[@timothylongmore7325]

Large pot works just as good.

[@nrsrchd]

@@timothylongmore7325I did some research and showed my husband this and what I found. He made me 2 that work like this. Thank you for responding.

[@MrDannyd9]

9:32 nah, it is called an aziatrope; the alcohol likes the water.