How to make a sheet metal press die for floor pans

How to make a Sheet metal press die to build a set of floor pans for a early 70s Datsun pickup. running into troubles and how to over come the problems. quick refresher on the cut and butt welding method

[@huttny7773]

Please don't worry about the length of your videos. The longer and more detailed they are just helps us beginners to better understand and absorb the process. You're a great teacher! Thanks for what you're doing!

[@superc4308]

I agree video's never too long always learn some thing

[@toddherington4180]

He's not just a good teacher for beginners like I said in my words or my paragraph to him I've been doing it a long time and I'm pretty good at it and I learn from him every time I watch it's awesome 👍👊

[@PhillipHall01]

huttny 777 / Super C / Todd Herington: I second this post. Great replies. Phillip Hall

[@drugsguys914]

Totaly agree

[@lawncuttingplusdelta]

Ditto , I mentioned similar on his mustang bubble hood scoop video! awesome 😎

[@robwest1297]

I used your cut and butt technique welding in repairs panel on a Dakota truck bed... took it to a body shop for the finish paint work...the guy asked how long have I been welding... I laughed and said...man, I'm a puddler...rookie...told him about your video and that it was my first time to try this... he said...I am impressed as hell... all I have to do is skim coat this things and paint it...all because of your teaching Fitz...thanks for sharing...hope you get to 100K subscribers

[@fitzeesfabrications]

That is a very cool story. Love it congrats on a job well done

[@littleherms3285]

@@fitzeesfabrications no joke, most body shops here in BC won't remotely touch a rust repair job. With your vids, ANYONE with some basic hand tools and a decent MIG can fix just about anything. Thanks for all your hard work putting this out for the masses. Oh and thanks for the tip on that primer, that stuff is awesome.

[@robwest1297]

@@fitzeesfabrications funny thing is... his wife was convinced that he should junk it...I said, I just wanted something to play with... when it was painted, the owner was approached by a person interested in buying it... I laughed my butt off...I did both left and right wheel arches, made inner fender pieces that was all gone...bottom of driver door was gone, inner and outer... front fenders both totally rotted out near the headlights... owner loves his truck, now it looks great...thx to you...I've been doing stuff the hard way...just for fun. grinding off the welds is the only bummer...

[@ceesklumper]

Won't be long before 100K subscribers is reached

[@trickyricky12147]

That is a very good and inspirational story! I'm curious if he was so amazed, that he almost offered you to work there? Thanks!

[@joell439]

“We got a grinder. We got a hammer. And a pair of vice grips.” Well there you go again...... all magic tricks require practice to perfect, and a willingness to try new things 👍👍😎👍👍. Thanks Fitzee for another ‘you can do it too’ episode.

[@henryhumada2087]

Showing that even a seasoned craftsman has to stop, re-evaluate and start over gives me hope I can work through my project. Thanks for the tips.

[@MattsAwesomeStuff]

Two things: One, I appreciate that you showed failure. Not for emotional or confidence reasons, practical ones. It's not always enough to say "this is the best way" or "you have to do this or these other things happen" or "avoid this", it's good to see WHY something is the better method because other methods just don't work and why they don't work and what happens when you do it (and maybe why sometimes it might still be okay). I learned a lot. Two, this was so much work and it it outlined to me that there is surely an easier way of doing it... but that way takes big tools and big setup and it's complicated. What you did was a lot of work, and a lot more work, so many seams, holes, fitting, etc, but every single piece of it was easy to identify what the task was, and every single piece was achievable by a novice. I can't carve a small wooden house from a solid block, but I can build a lego set. That's why your tutorials speak so much to me. Nothing is intimidating, you just take your time and conquer it piece by manageable piece.

[@fitzeesfabrications]

Very well said. Thank you

[@rockymasel3317]

I watch Fitzee's vids to learn. Today I learned I own a hand held lathe (several of them)! 😄

[@fitzeesfabrications]

Hahaha

[@katykayy]

Me too! And had no idea! Love his videos!

[@edwardkipp4911]

This is awesome, i can lay in bed and watch videos and get a college level education on metalworking! Thank you Fitzee!

[@larryernst6349]

yes good tip, it also works very good with your bench grinder instead of handheld sander

[@trickyricky12147]

@@larryernst6349 Hmmmm.. Yes!

[@bradbilskie8078]

I do body work myself , hopefully these people your working for appreciate what your doing for them ,you definitely go the distance . God Bless the hard working people on the planet .

[@XJRenovations]

Too many "how to" videos gloss over struggles. It is nice to see that you include your struggles and how you persevere to overcome them.

[@ScottWConvid19]

Man, I'm 53 and just began to learn to weld with my son for some frame and body repair that we have for his first truck. KZbin recommended your videos and you tackle some very unique projects that require high level skill and very task specific tools. It's always satisfying to watch a true master at work in his trade, when he has his head and his heart in his work. 👍🏼👍🏼

[@coilstreeservice9398]

How do you know you’re watching an old school sheet metal man? He’s got a pair of dividers in his hand! Outstanding Tony👍

[@irongoatrocky2343]

I spent most of my career as a Union Sheet Metal Worker, and even I learned quite a bit here! I had an instructor when I was an apprentice way back when say "when ya know every thing there is to bending tin, it's time to go meet the Big Tinner!" Thanks for teaching an old dog some new tricks!

[@LuisEnriqueMartinez-rc7km]

That wasn't a long video, it was a learning video, 👍👍, thanks for sharing 😉

[@russell154]

I so appreciate your no nonsense approach, showing mistakes and how to correct them. No magic just patience and work. Thank you for your great and helpful videos.

[@TK42138]

That 'cut n' butt' technique is genius.

[@MrCapiroto66]

Yes. That is a real game changer.

[@drewt3210]

I hadn't thought about cutting at a 45deg angle. Effectively makes it a scarf joint, which is much stronger than a butt joint. Solid tip there.

[@deconteesawyer5758]

@@drewt3210 Scarf joint is stronger if you glue it together. On a weld the only thing holds it together is the penetration of the weld.

[@drewt3210]

@@deconteesawyer5758 Thank you!

[@robbyddurham1624]

@@drewt3210 damn it. I'd already forgot about the 45 degree cut. Glad you refreshed my memory.

[@MrCapiroto66]

It is a real privilege to watch your work, sir

[@davidbeaumont4455]

I’ve been ruining paint and sheet metal for 4 1/2 decades and I’ve learned a ton more from 3-4 of your long (read detailed!) videos!! Thank you!

[@thedoingnotthedone.6292]

What you teach more than anything is attitude. It will take time, it won't be easy, even with a ton of experience you might have to step back and think again. Thank you for taking the time to teach.

[@jm-xy6xh]

I really appreciate watching your trial and error process and hearing your thought process to address the problem - great learning tool. The hole filling technique was brilliant. Keep up the great work! Thanks.

[@Ceo8203]

I'm 40 something can't quite remember been welding since high school I've welded (super glued ) a lot of metal with a lot of different people I say that to say this YOU an my high school teacher (THOMAS GEORGIAN 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 THANK YOU FOR THE KNOWLEDGE) make it look soooooo easy sooooo simple that it gives beginners confidence to weld. You don't need a big shop or fancy tools to get stuff done Hollllly crap I own several lathes

[@DJRudyNaves]

Even if I don't speak your language, I can perfectly understand your explanations and tutorials on making parts for body repairs, thanks for the simple and objective didactics

[@alibro7512]

I think Fitzee's accent is from somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic. Nice to hear the Irish twang from over the pond.

[@bustersgarage]

​@@alibro7512 Yeah, Fitzee does super work with no-nonsense! This would be the quality of a great teacher, plus clear instructions and advice are bonus. Would have loved to take a welding class taught by him back in school! And accent-wise, Ireland supposedly has 5 or so dialects/accents, but after living here 10 years, I've found there to be that many in a single city! So it would be hard to tell where exactly, especially if he grew up in one area, and went to school in another. But there's a few things he says that tells me Tipperary, Chashel and Cork areas. I've met only super friendly people in those areas, so it would make sense too.

[@bernardpoole9123]

I love your videos I am 70 now Ben working with metal since 16 and learning neat stuff from you thank you so much

[@deanm4138]

Another awesome video love the detail

[@roguishowl3915]

Honestly that was the most enjoyable 48 minutes of KZbin I’ve watched in a long while. It was fascinating to see how you pressed the metal with just hand tools. An inspiration to all of us whom can’t afford all the Gucci tools. 👍🏻

[@trefallerhighline2152]

Fix what you have or make your own...old school training is quality learning. Thank you for sharing your time with us out here.

[@4speed3pedals]

Fitzee, my opinion is that the length of your videos is never too long. I am always learning. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and your positive attitude. If you had a shope full of every tool to make your job easier, I wouldn't watch it. Thanks again.

[@bobsmithsonrealtor]

I put it in my lathe, turn my lathe on!!!!! YOU'RE THE BEST!!!! LOVE your videos, they give a beginner like me so much confidence and knowledge. THANK YOU Fitzee!!!!

[@michaelosborne513]

you sir are a very good instructor and the length of your videos is not a problem

[@fredshipp3809]

Fritzee,that is NOT scap iron, it is salvaged iron. Video may have been a bit long but worth every minute of it to me. You amaze me with the skills you have using simple tools and techniques. I appreciate your sharing.

[@CorbinAce]

Hey Fitz, Being a retired Tool and Die maker this video brought a great big smile to my face. Watching you extrude these panels made my day. Building a die to do this would take a month. Thanks for this video. I wish I kept in touch with my old buddies at work. They would appreciate this procedure as much as I did. Well done!!

[@cooldog60]

Did you work at Dearborn Tool and Die? I worked at Woodhaven Stamping.

[@CorbinAce]

@@cooldog60 No I never heard of these shops. I worked in Massachusetts, and South Florida. I worked as a tool maker in Polaroid Tool and Die shop, Marine optical, Raytheon, BE Aerospace, and some small shops as a tool Maker. I also worked as a Technical Illustrator drawing for Polaroid assembly and inspection Manuals. Attended The Art Institute of Boston in 1969 for Tech Illustration. Polaroid paid my tuition. Illustration was eventually wiped out by Computers. Digital drawing was not my bag. :O) I returned back to Die making.

[@shocktones9704]

You sir are definitely the MASTER TINKER, I'm amazed at some of the things you come up with.

[@OldJoe212]

There's a lot of information in this lesson. I'm going to have to watch it more than once. I hope Professor Fitzee gives us a little extra time before we have to take the quiz.

[@c50ge]

“DR. PROFESSOR FITZEE”

[@OldJoe212]

@@c50ge A PhD in Common Sense.

[@williamhanna5224]

You are a true master i enjoy watching you work you remind me of my younger days I'm 73 now.

[@julianfisher6373]

Time is no issue if you want to learn, great video please keep them coming as i'm hooked on your channel. Never to old to learn !

[@brianpeters4486]

Man another great one. I was wondering why you were putting all the work into that cab. Glad you chose to put all the effort into showing us how to do it.

[@mrolcarguy]

I like your 51 Chev 2 door. I had a 52 Hard top about 10 years ago that brought back from a rust bucket, Wish I had seen your still of repair.....I had 55 headlights buckets and bezels....Sold it for more than I had in it.....Thanks for bringing your knowledge so others can learn from you.....Roy from Ontario

[@terrydouglas2777]

Thank you for teaching me many new things about auto body work. Like I tell my grand children, we learn something new and we need to pass that knowledge to as many others as we can so the old ways are never forgotten like so much has been already from our history. So you can hold your head up higher knowing that you have taught so many people your ways of doing things using basic tools that every shop or hobbyist has in their own shop. Thank you again from me and my grand children. I'm definitely going to follow your channel and I'm going to share it with others who want to know more about the old ways of making something from nothing but the drive inside us and the knowledge we have between our ears. Thank you my new friend and teacher.

[@fitzeesfabrications]

Love these stories. Your so welcome

[@jerrywillis5585]

Anybody can hotrod or modify a vehicle, but to make something look original takes true craftsmanship.

[@jrc2905]

I watch your videos at work but am unable to hit the like or subscribe button because it is a work computer. So I do it when I am watching from home. I am just learning to weld; I live in the North east and have the replaced rocker panels on all my cars damaged from rust. I just started to watch you and cannot wait to try it using your method. I could go on and on about your videos, but just want to say you have done more than educate me, you motivate me to get welding, thanks, John

[@C0Y0TE5]

Thank you for that! I am repairing the rusty driver's floor pan in a 2003 Ranger. The only repair panel available is for the 86 - 93 years, but apparently it can be modified to fit. I have an innate knack at shaping sheet metal, but only a tiny amount of sheet metal welding experience from 40 years ago. Retirement project; new cheap 120volt mig buzzbox: wish me well. Thank you for your lessons; love you man.

[@joaquinsablan5406]

Yes, you are so right about time in doing a process in fabrication you mention to take your time . That's what's wrong todays building of Hot Rods . Shops get a job to do , you see 10 people asign to a car because the customer wants it done in 3 weeks or 3 months. It can be done with lots of $$$$$ if you have it. But to a Home Garage one person owner learning what you teach , I find and learn more watching you go through the Metal Fab process. I thank you for what you do. Good Teacher!

[@derekhughes9274]

A long video, I couldn't say I was riveted to it, no. More like welded, keep em coming mate absolutely fascinating, you're a true craftsman. Thankyou.

[@dirkg7062]

"We got a grinder, a hammer, and a pair of vise grips" Fitzee your Amazing! Love your channel!

[@danblythe2979]

You are the metal wizzard. Thanks for sharing the knowledge you have acquired.

[@cebudave]

Fantastic, thanks for the great tutorial Fitzee. 👍🏻

[@coherantbliss3483]

You have more patience than most people...most people would look at the amount of rust and throw it outside. Plus, most people 'want to' but never do...my hat is off to you Fitzee's. Thanks again for your teaching me more patience and ways to do things ourselves...much respect brother.

[@CALIBRA4X4]

Good to see a expert taking a long time to make a panel, helps me to be more patient.

[@nickp4179]

Instructional, educational and relaxing. They're never long enough. 👍👏

[@KiwiStag74]

I love your sense of humour, Tony! "I gots this small piece I welded a coathanger on, now I sets it up in the lathe...." Eh? What? That's a drill! Hang about! Hey - it did the same job though! As you always say mate - "Simple tools gets the job done. You don't need nothing fancy. Use what you got". A drill is a lot easier to have room for in a garage than a ruddy great lathe, that's for sure! That press for the indents was a brilliant idea too and the finished product will be stronger than factory the way it gets attached. The secret? Another of Tony's Tips - Take your time. You are a great teacher, my friend. It's your way of explaining things that makes it easy to understand WHY things need doing a certain way and what happens when you don't. Understanding the entire process and the properties and characteristics of the materials you're working with leads to less mistakes, so don't ever worry about "long" videos. I have not fast-forwarded one yet!

[@fitzeesfabrications]

Well said. Thank you

[@thegarage5919]

You my man are a virtual wealth of knowledge! Metal magician? Hell no. You sir are the Da Vinci of metal.

[@geddonmeansome9834]

You come over as a very nice bloke , excellent teacher. cheers from the UK.

[@sawpilot]

Thanks to you I did my first cut-n-butt on an old car hood for practice this morning and it went off without a hitch. Getting ready to tackle an old Jeep project with LOTS of sheet metal work. Thank you sir.

[@hillbillyspeedshopandgarag4564]

Another really helpful video especially since I have floor pans that need patched. Thanks again for sharing

[@nv1493]

Has to be THE BEST metal instructor. No fancy tools - clear explanations.

[@jeremyhanna3852]

He is great another great guy is arco over at Minnesota outlaw edge metal

[@2tana22]

Love that yellow lathe, as usual another great video with ideas and suggestion that are very helpful

[@davdave3470]

I did something similar when I made a new scuttle panel for my 1959 Ford. Only I planed up a 3 piece of hard wood and routed out another piece to receive the "die". I then carefully heated the sheet and clamped it between the wood blocks - worked as a perfect match of the origin.

[@davidconley3610]

Lots of work to duplicate the floor. Great job Fitz 👍

[@bharrison]

Use of your drill lathe is BRILLIANT. I could have used that technique a couple of weeks ago. I always pickup a few bits of great information from every video. Thanks Fitzee!

[@hgj2019]

That real time welding was very helpful. It’s one thing to SAY “take your time”, quite another to DEMONSTRATE EXACTLY what that really means. Once again, we learn from the master! Oh, and kind sir, the tips are ALWAYS GOOD!!!😄

[@neiljarvis8911]

Such talented craftsmen are becoming increasingly rare in the world these days. So nice to see and be able to learn from these true masters of their craft.

[@Agreenarmoury]

This is exactly what I've been looking for. I'm restoring an old J-series pickup truck and have already cut out huge sections of rust from the floor pan. Unfortunately, nobody makes floor pans big enough to cover the hole I had to cut out. Your 48 minute long video taught me more about sheet metal fabrication than I've ever learned. The best lesson here is that I need to slow down. I've been a mechanic for over 15 years and my problem with body work is that I always want to work faster. Thank you. This is exactly what I needed to get my project going again.

[@DannyWalker1949]

Another Great video showing what You do.......I've been welding for bout 50+ years of All kinds and I do restore old trucks and car's and YOU SIR are among the BEST 0ne's. I Think.

[@superc4308]

Fitzee your still a metal master jedi in my book always amazed at your metal working skillz👍🏽

[@JRGood-mm9yu]

It is amazing your fingers aren't cut up and scared from handling metal all these years. You blow me away each video. You are a natural craftsman.

[@user-ss2ly1ir6j]

Yes, his fingers are not cut up and frightened...lolol

[@kuharua54]

I have started repairing an old hilux and the biggest thing I am learning is that there is always an innovative way from a to b, even with rudimentary tools. Patience is the underlying factor, and learning to walk away when frustrated.

[@driftersbeachcafe5961]

A great detailed video on how to do these difficult tasks with basic hand tools..thank you

[@chrisclark2661]

Another great video. I don't think you realize how good you really are at this. Fantastic work.

[@stevejanka361]

Good morning, I do like your 45 degree cut technique. It makes for a very desirable finish. Thanks for another excellent video. You take care and stay healthy. Good luck.

[@kirstenspencer3630]

My husband and I love this guy. Few tools, a lot of talent and great teacher.

[@waynegoebel395]

You are a gem, Fritzee... thanks so much for the extra effort in making these videos.

[@barrygibson7638]

Patience's is the virtue, sort by many found by few. Very true saying that , thanks Fitzee for showing the world how to make something, with skill, your bear hands and more importantly Patience.

[@pkuudsk9927]

Love the way you put your videos together . Reminds me to slow down ! Stop and rethink. I hate rust work but at the end of the day it's all the same work. It's way to easy to get ahead of yourself and loose datum points pissing around at home or helping a friend.

[@bernonic]

that's a big job! - all to illustrate for us that it can be done - thank-you

[@classiccarrebuilds2771]

Excellent video as always, i always learn something new watching you m8

[@mickmangles8000]

Your a legend FITZEE My son and i are doing a 1953 Mainline ute up here in Geelong Australia and recently had the floor pans done by a pro , too far gone for us amatuers LOL . Great channel mate keep up the good work keeping a dying trade and old school knowledge going.

[@dayslife]

it's never too long when you're sharing your knowledge. Thanks you again Sir.

[@DIYWHEELGUY1970]

I believe true talent comes from having the ability to walk away, and come back with a clear head. I'm guilty of walking away, and not coming back. Thank you for another great video Tony

[@randyedwards3244]

Yet another great video!! Your videos are REAL - a disorganized shop with excessive clutter (bet you know where EVERYTHING is tho), and BASIC HAND tools. Many of us simply cannot afford the latest and greatest from the local Snap On truck. Nor can we open a catalog to order panels on a whim. What I feel ALL of us has is the DESIRE to do a job and do it well. You provide information which may be new to many of us - or you present a method in such a way it confirms that we WERE on the right track figuring an issue out. Sorry for long comment, I rarely make any but when I do I wanna make it count. Thanks, Fitzee!

[@XM-qk5sh]

Fitzee, You are truly a master craftsman. I really enjoy learning new things. Thanks for the great videos.

[@BrucePierson]

Two days of trial and error and remaking to get the first floor pan done. With what you learned the first time, it should only take you two hours to do the second one ... well, maybe a little bit longer. Always interesting to see what you do and how you do it, with a good explanation along the way to help other learn. All the best from Queensland Australia.

[@johnmacdonald8587]

With a good explanation all along the way to help others learn . Thanks fritz .🙏

[@endeavour2127]

Thoroughly enjoyed the video!!! Don't worry about them being too long, you are handing out gems for free, the more the better!!

[@tntltl]

Still the master even though he made a mistake they were a master's mistake and it came out great. I love the guy the patience the accent all the best to you!!!

[@johnavendano9866]

Masters are just that through learning from mistakes..... here in Australia we are very limited to panel fab and costs a political pay off to get done by Pros. Thanks to his vids I've managed to salvage what i thought was well and truly gone!

[@rupe53]

Tal ... the difference is the master saves the mistake and it becomes a resource pile of parts for future salvage operations. Along the same lines... never throw anything out till the job is complete as you may need a small piece of that mistake.

[@tntltl]

@@rupe53 Great advice thanx

[@davewoode6385]

if patience is a virtue, you are a virtuous man. good work Fitzee!

[@flatworm00]

You are an excellent craftsman, I learn a lot with every video.

[@dginia]

Your hole filler reminded me of when I was 10 years old. The house was rewired. We saved all the slugs broken from the new service panel and used them for quarters, nickels and dimes in our play house! Loved your video. Very informative.

[@mk1jack]

Fitzee this was brilliant, I never fail to learn a new technique or tip from every one of your videos

[@supercomp7078]

This is brilliant, we learn from stuffing things up, this way we see what not to do or think of other ways to do it

[@clintonhanson9639]

Because of you I went and purchased a welder, and a hammer and dolly set. Guess we’ll give it a go. I have the Norwegian lathe already. Wife might wonder where all her coat hangers went but she’ll get over it.

[@awalk5177]

This is exactly what I was just thinking about. You must have read my mind. Excellent, thank you.

[@francisouellette5938]

I feel like I'm an apprentice in your shop. You make everything look amazingly easy. You are a very good teacher. Love your videos and seeing Canadian Tire stuff. Thanks for sharing all this knowledge.

[@dickbarton1]

Thank you for your videos you have taught me a lot you are a very good teacher. fantastic work. I am restoring a 1942 ww2 German side car for my Wehrmacht Zundapp Ks 750. Without your help I will have had to take it to a body shop and it will have cost me a small fortune.

[@johngym3187]

I’m a Panel Beater in Australia & new subscriber, love your minimal tool approach teaching, I’ve leaned thing or two on making rust replacement panels to improve on my own ways thanks Fitzee keep up the great videos

[@fitzeesfabrications]

I say you have a number of tricks of your own!.

[@ericebert6404]

Fitzee, another great video. I appreciate it when you explain everything step by step, makes it easy to follow. Also, you explain your mistakes and how you fixed them.

[@cre2919]

That was great thank you for sharing and no your videos aren't to long look at the information and knowledge you are sharing and you allow us to see you put it all together in every step. God Bless

[@toddherington4180]

Fritz I think you're amazing and I've learned so much I've been a metal man for 35 years and I love watching you I love you humility I love your common sense thinking but on that panel did you think about tipping it over and beating it back and then just shrinking the stretching it looked beautiful when you got that first one pressed out the three of them it just look like it needed to be tipped over and beat down and then maybe shrunk in a couple of spots did that go by you or did you already think of that and there's a reason why you didn't do it that way keep doing your videos I think they're amazing and I learned ferocious amounts thank you so much

[@fitzeesfabrications]

Should got into more detail as each section had twisted out of shape. The metal next to each die was all over the place . I tried to straighten it but it just got worse. Problem is thr die was pulling on the metal and not stretching the metal. It couldn't pull it when I welded on the bench

[@toddherington4180]

@@fitzeesfabrications from watching you for so long I knew there had to be some more than what was showing and that's why I asked I was not being disrespectful I think you're freaking amazingly clever and being a metal man myself for like I said 35 years I've learned so much watching your little tricks and stuff it's just like so common sense and I thought I was super uncommon Sense until I watch you LOL LOL LOL, thank you brother you are a honor to the metal men trade and keep doing what you're doing watch you almost every night a different project thank you thank you so much, 👍👍👍👊

[@funkyole1125]

Don’t worry about what everyone else thinks. You do amazing work!

[@myjhong91]

Holy cow! Thats a lot of work for a one-off! Great job, Fitzee!

[@tfindley007]

Great instructional video! You’re a great teacher Fitzee! I especially like the basic tools, not all of us can afford to furnish a complete metal shop.

[@BenjaminKehtler]

When Fitzee started to cut and butt my jaw dropped at how simple and effective that method is. Thanks for the great information!

[@geralddavis9315]

Wish I had your patience. Thanks for telling the truth about how long it takes to do this kind of work. I see TV car shows where they take a rusted out wreck and turn it into a finished car in a one hour show. People don't realize how many hundreds , sometimes thousands of hours go into these projects.

[@srchastain859]

I like your work, Fitzee !! Good job !!