How To Make An Analog Kick with Tobi Neumann

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Tobi Neumann shares a tutorial on making fun analog kick bass drum with a simple set of modular synthesizer gear; recorded at Riverside Studios in Berlin. Read more here: djtechtools.com.... - Watch more videos from this series: www.youtube.co....

[@precarious333]

I never thought to sync the VCO to the kick pulse to insure the waveform starts at the same point for every hit. Thanks!

[@newdensity7553]

Kick is the most important ingredient, and this is the best video on how to do it in eurorack. I've watched it five times now. Thank you!

[@Goldkalb]

I made the mistake to start building up a modular system and it turned out to be one of the greatest things ever. seriously.

[@henryturner-ward3879]

I need to know how to do that... I love these sorts of projects

[@Goldkalb]

I started with the moog mother32 because it is a very solid standalone unit that can be completely integrated in a future modular system. it takes you a lot of time to figure out the very basics of modular synthesis but it is a very rewarding thing. don´t cry about all the money spent, it is well worth it. so much fun that never gets old. once your system is growing, so is your knowledge about creating sound. with this kind of system you really can develope your own unique style of music and sound, which is just awesome. here´s what i put together so far: www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/662177 its still growing and is one of the most beautiful things i ever owned ;-) let me know if you have any questions!

[@pingazzzz]

Gabber kick tutorial 2016

[@agro0]

Damn, that dude knows his stuff....

[@goemon4]

+L. Willis Mr. Neumann is a don His slices tech talks is worth watching as well. It's short but just oozes wisdom, very knowledgeable guy

[@IIRojakII]

its not that advanced to be honest once you know some things

[@MaddDrEw]

exactly, it's really not that complicated it's just understanding signal routing/DSP

[@FrancisXu0420]

Yes very very basic and important concepts

[@Padbangers]

I will not start to buy a modular. I will not start to buy a modular...

[@IgorGuerrero]

+Padbangers Good luck!

[@wombora]

+Padbangers you sound like every modular owner i know

[@F1tznbitz]

I made the mistake and I'm not going back

[@LaurentLaborde]

then buy a semi-modular Moog mother32 :D

[@Zirko0]

I was thinking the exact same thing...

[@umana93]

he made all my favorite style kicks so easy :O

[@XYtoTheDoubleG]

Wow... That was truly fantastic! I really didn't expect much from this tutorial at the beginning but then wow.... I have been trying to find new uses for the in and out syncs on my oscillators and this really helped! Great stuff! SUB

[@delinquentdialect5869]

"Its highly addictive, I warn you"

[@els1f]

Somehow I never thought about using the oscillator sync. Great Stuff.

[@noahtorres7761]

love it ,that's the way I got into music , I had a teacher in high school that show me this style some how .

[@beatoold5986]

I always admire your sound, underground feelings from Chile

[@infinitebisous]

think there's a sample called 'analogkick1' which you can download if not

[@zenzero1356]

Great info. Recently purchased a Korg MS20 to synthesize drum sounds and this looks like the next level. The possibilities are endless with the modular approach. There goes my wallet.

[@RobertCharlesMann]

Who could possibly give this a thumbs down? Bravo and thanks Tobi !!!

[@SPAZit101]

His modular setup in his studio had me drooling!

[@steelcitybudschannel2804]

This kick drum is more expensive than an actual kick drum

[@elrafa964]

... but it can make GABBA! :D

[@jurj4108]

@Steel City Buds Channel Well yeah it is, I agree on that (Although it is still dependant on what kind of a kickdrum you buy ;) But you forget that those things are able to do a lot more than just being a kickdrum. Thats the real beauty of it. The shapeshifting nature of modular. Giving you the opportunity to patch something new up every single time. With an unprecidented control over every single detail you can dream of. And that is an amazing thing, right? :) Edit: I still found your comment really funny :D

[@bubi0083]

Tobi the analog king😊

[@mitchshivers]

Thank you Tobi for this modular inspiration!!!!

[@playboxadministrator9229]

Now I know how to make a bass drum. Great method that I can now use to create other sounds. Cheers.

[@quixotic7]

i kept waiting for his cable to hit the power supply...

[@ClausHvass]

+quixotic7 LoL

[@robbrobb7587]

Just what I was waiting for. Sizzle sizzle red stripe wouldn't matter.

[@naturligfunktion4232]

Im watching like ”DUDE! Close your case”

[@danielrast]

Very simple but great idea to use all the waveform outputs for a kickdrum!

[@hulqen]

At 4:24: "So then I take the output of the second envelope and put it to the pitch input". No, you don't, Toby! According to the layout of the Z3000, you actually put it into the FM2 input! I was wondering why I didn't get the same sound even though I was using the same envelope and oscillator modules, and this was driving me crazy! Later in the video, at 7:00 to be exact, he actually patches one of the attenuverter outputs of the Maths to the 1v/o input on the Z3000 to control the pitch.

[@chasethevioletsun9996]

Careful! I shorted out my whole rack twice by letting patch cables dangle down over bus connections like that. Fortunately my power supply protected everything but still.

[@Nuke_Skywalker]

oh god this is my nightmare scenario

[@q3rageq3]

Never drop another end of the patch cable inside the case as the guy did - you can short circuit your system!

[@joesmith4546]

Shit man, your pro pic is awesome. Who's the artist?

[@q3rageq3]

It's DKNG studio art, head to their website at dkngstudios.com and search for "moog", they have more

[@julians7785]

never thought of the sync trick. Thanks !

[@AndrewJohnClive]

Genius! thanks Tabi and DJ TT...

[@fourfourjunkie]

I love this stuff I really do but sometimes I am like "I am just going to go grab that pearl kick drum and and a sweet ribbon mic with that tube pre and make that kick the old fashion way" lol.

[@Cepagemusic]

That feeling of relief when he starts listing the necessary modules and you realize you have all of them lol. Day is safe.

[@luvdattek]

This video invites me to drop all « ready made » sound modules !!! 😮

[@MondstaubMusik]

Knows his tools, coole Socke der Tobi....dankeschööön :)

[@pquic]

when he said gabba kick it reminded me of the good old days that hardcore wasn't just a one kick party

[@jdown330]

This guy is brilliant

[@guitarvibe75]

If you make the same patch on Reaktor 6, you will get the same analog style imperfections for every hit.

[@peterb7435]

Tobi is amazing

[@bFOURdwZEROlf]

awesome. I want to make my kick drums using modular synthesis

[@mfThump]

That is really fucking cool.

[@MauricioMaisterrena]

So how much equipment and cables do you need to make a full drum kit? :/

[@ryansturgiss4115]

LOVE THE PASSION :) AND GOOD VIDEO THANK YOU.

[@piotr803]

When all your cables are stackables...total boss.

[@contumancia]

im doing this now : ) is awesome! many many thanks!!! : ))))

[@mej6519]

great vid man, "its highly addictive , i warn you" ;)

[@thediep9146]

Great video!

[@stephenstrang590]

If someone was to write up all the connections I would be eternally grateful.

[@considercaption]

Hey he has five modules An envelope generator(make noise maths) A four channel mixer(vca4mx) An oscillator(tiptopz3000) A cross filter/out- a-138d And a lfo-a145 ---- He takes the clock of the pulse log to envelope 1 trig(maths) He takes that same trig out into env 2 Then the same trig from 2 into Oscar sync function(vca) He then takes all 4 Oscillator outputs into the 4 channel inputs He takes the mixer(vca) into the a138d so you can hear it on your system Afterwards he takes the env 1 output to a mixers cv input Then the mixer cv input to the other 3 channels input. Later he takes the env 2 out into the oscillator pitch Then an extra envelope into the osc pitch Then he takes the mix and puts it through a filter Then the trig out into sync. I may not have put it all correct especially towards the end. But I’ll edit later if I have to.

[@epicwhaleburger]

The best reply you could of asked for

[@ove1312]

@@considercaption Do you have any ideea how can i control the clock in vcv with a external midi controller? To my knowledge i need the midi -cv module but when i try to connect the clock from the midi module to the lfo nothing happens

[@UnderGreyPreassure]

please make more videos like this one but for newbies

[@sandro1017]

This is Raketentechnik

[@THEBLACKDRAGON214M.U]

You ar de best

[@robotboot]

great video...wish there was a better top down angle where it was easier to se the patch.

[@zenluiz]

Nice video!

[@christianmarucco5296]

are there any videos about this but showing you how to create all the diferents sounds in a loop?

[@techy_trade]

Awesome! "it's highly addictive"... no shit!!! :)

[@shlamhabor]

"if i wanna make gabba" hahahhahahahha im dying :D

[@threeinitiates8260]

Thank you!

[@AudioPervert1]

so much more creative and interesting ... than, edm jocks punching multiple kick samples ...

[@instantknut]

I guess you need an analog Speedmaster to accurately measure the release of the envelopes ;-)

[@AdamTheAd-vanc3d]

Good share wikid.

[@FrankFra]

He knows how to do it.

[@controledj]

Awesome

[@mosai6950]

the reason he's syncing it is to make sure the waveform starts on the start of the transient, not because it will drift out of time.... its not traktor ctfu* edit: autocorrect fucked ctfu up

[@psysword]

Wow you are a genius

[@allyouracid]

"It's highly addictive" - even just watching it is highly dangerous!

[@riktich]

I put ze CeeVee in ze envelop

[@McLovinVideosMM321]

If i vanted to make ze Gabba

[@davidsimmons9843]

tobi you are awesome.....so, how would you recommend someone break into this sound desgn, music production menagerie?

[@brianobush]

That VCA should have the CV in normaled to all channels, no? Luckily I have most of those modules... save the 4 channel VCA, now I have another excuse to pick up another module.

[@acidjack]

Nice video and tutorial, but its a risk to have the case open like you have . Dpnt show the new guys this. A cable can contact the psu or a other power line. Its a bit dangerous ...

[@contumancia]

thanks toby : )

[@eph_kni]

that cwejman is worth more than the rest of the modules combined. this was the video that go me into modular and it's emotional damaging to know i just cant justify the cost of owning that vca/mixer ( probably )

[@benjamin_lahaut]

Hi! You can use the quad VCA from Intelligel: 200 euros max. It's an alternative....

[@rossmotus669]

sorry, i don't understand well at 1:55, connecting the 2nd Maths trigger input to the sync input of VCO? From input to input?... Sorry, because I'm a newbie. The camera POV is not so understandable.

[@mikepagliosa]

Thank you Tobi. You are an f***ing expert. I ve seen it a few times. If anyone is interested and wants to learn more about it join our course in Berlin on 11th October 16 @ Noisy Academy with Stefan Knauthe. Stefan will explain in Ableton Live how it all works and it will make your decision to buy a modular system easier.

[@christianmarucco5296]

THIS GUY FUCKING RULES!

[@greatmateworkshop9764]

Instead of using all the VCAs was not possible to mix them with a mixer, and then pass the mix through the VCA? Maybe I'm wrong.. Anyway, great video!

[@delinquentdialect5869]

The VCA module he was using IS a mixer. So why have two modules when one will do. Also he wants independent VCA control of each wave form, rather than mixing the waves then applying the VCA after. Hence the use of two of the envelopes on the MATHS module

[@precarious333]

+GreatMateWorkshop You are correct. Either arrangement will work the same effect. In fact most people don't have 4 VCAs to dedicate to a kick! Makes much more sense to mix then into a single VCA. I think he only did it the other way because that's how that particular module is set up.

[@mrbukse1]

Correct me if im wrong please but can you make the exact same kickdrum possibilitys with the Pittsburgh Lifeforms SV-1?

[@АндрейВиевский-щ2ж]

love him

[@MikeDGF76er]

Nice

[@wessside]

great!

[@Jeffeffect1]

How/where would the Optomix be inserted in this chain?

[@kimrunic5874]

8:59 uh-uh I don't want my kick drum to sound different every time

[@DelasVC]

I take de clock of de Äll Äff Ooh - just de palls! 🤣🤣

[@emilyschmanks]

what a guy

[@EntonDelMonte]

so en guete!

[@TheVinn1982]

It’s highly addictive i warn you….. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@jandebuyssere]

i am going to start with modular but didn't know which modules to buy, wel now i know haha. how would you implement this in ableton, just record a one bar loop?

[@ards5161]

Jan De Buysser you can get very similar results w/ operator, it has the same modules more or less; multiple instances of different sound generators (operators in this case) with mix control, there is a pitch envelope, plus much much more. Would suggest to just look up how to create a kickdrum w/ operator, ought to get you on the way

[@PorchBass]

Jomox Mbase seems suddenly cheap and easy compared to this, does it not?

[@KILLAGORILLA7000]

+James Porch The Mbase interface is terrible to use and you are forgetting that those Eurorack modules could easily create a huge variety of lead, bass and percussion sounds also..

[@PorchBass]

***** Yeah Jomox interface is terrible on my 888. You're right, having everything per knob and open to cross patching is much wider in potential. Urgent call for more patchcables!

[@KILLAGORILLA7000]

James Porch Amen! :)

[@SineSkeller]

Where can I find those type of patch leads? Do they have a name?

[@j.talbert9043]

+Sine Skeller They're Tip Top Audio stackables.

[@SineSkeller]

+J. Talbert Thanks!

[@steelcitybudschannel2804]

Hi I’m Toby I have my own studio 10 4 10 4 Pat on the back inbound

[@ru13r44]

Wow!

[@Atom15]

Nice.

[@rawesome1000]

omg heart attack seeing the cables hanging in to the case...

[@lprophit]

he's such a Canadian you can tell with the accent...

[@aniher4949]

i don't understand how you just get a kick drum sound like that. I've tried this method with various envelopes, oscillators, gates vs lfos... all I get is fart noises. this sounds like a compressed kick drum, and mine sounds nothing like that. I don't have MATHS, so maybe that's why. doesn't make any sense though. i suck

[@blackjo56]

excellet vid, someone has a recom to record this on a more accurate bpm? i'm currently using voltage modular from cherry audio, i tryna rec but the transient keeps moving slightly from the 1.1 bar postion, it does not keep constantly

[@blackjo56]

i sended the 2con envelope out to the hard sync but didnt worked

[@keshavrao27]

Dj scientist !!!! Wow

[@zwerty007]

I don't understand why youd sync the waveform lol, it's more like a real kick drum then and you'll probably end up using this from a sampler anyway, where the phase can be kept always the same nice to see a really in depth tutorial on this though, I'd like to see other drums made and customised by this person

[@delinquentdialect5869]

noob

[@XDrSinusX]

clicks...

[@mattkaz9604]

If you are doing high speed kickdrums with no sync, you will get unpredictable DC clicks. At least if it is synced you can deal with clicks with tuning/ env times/ etc and produce or lose them in a uniform way.

[@papaajh]

is this how we create kick in the past?

[@kierenmoore3236]

Speedmaster!! :)

[@whiterottenrabbit]

Don't you love it when people do have some expensive bad-ass modules in their rack but are too cheap to buy blind plates, then let the cables hanging lose in the holes, running the risk for them to connect to the power supply connectors?

[@cwgodwin1]

WOW!!!!

[@worldwidevideotube]

I wish I could use it on a plane ^_^

[@jimlampshady]

Lovely theory, I just missed one thing - hearing a great kick out of that set up. Rather than explaining that it was possible, perhaps just showing us how you make a great sounding kick would have been more compelling?

[@guitarvibe75]

That is a really nice kick but shit just those few modules are like $1000.

[@turmulus9658]

kinda hard to justify building a kick from scratch when you can get a nice dedicated kick module for a quarter of the price. very cool in theory though.

[@BigPigEnergy]

Yeah, it all depends on what kind of control you want over it, too. Or what sound you're after. Alternatively, you could use a sampler module to sample a kick made this way, which frees up the modules you used to make the kick again.

[@geecen]

You don't have to do it all at the same time though unless you want a live setup. For recording you can actually do a lot with few modules and layer edit in your DAW just like you would with a drum machine in a normal track.

[@guitarvibe75]

What part of " just those few modules are like $1000" was not clear?

[@geecen]

Yea I know, but my point was it's not a 1000 dollar kick sound because you can use it for a lot of other stuff. I agree it's expensive though. For me it's either software or diy