How to make an EVA foam Space Marine - Part 11 - The Suit Up!

The suit up! Apologies for several things:
Sound - wasn't sure how loud to talk
Gap in the neck - Not enough padding in the shoulders
Lack of back pack - need an assistant to prevent damage to the suit to put this on.
The short arms - Usually this complaint about Space Marine costumes is a result of the wearer using stilts to enhance the height of the suit but not having extended the arms accordingly. In my case, the suit is more or less human height, so the arms are actually the correct length, but appear to be small because of the exceptionally large shoulder bells. These are exactly at the scale of the original files that I used, but in hindsight, smaller shoulders would have reduced the small arms look and increased mobility. Once they were compelted it wasnt really possible to make them smaller due to all the detail pieces that had been attached.

[@terrellsmith6715]

Legend has it he never got out of that suit

[@WellingtonIronman]

Send help!

[@theemperorofmankind7706]

Some portions feel off such as the arms but that's fixable. Overall really neat

[@swordmaster2305]

I think that if the shoulder pads where smaller it would probably look better

[@pandaberserk3390]

would making the shoulder smaller fix it? im interseted in building one

[@vast9467]

It’s a pretty universal problem with all space marine cosplays, so most people have arms longer than their actual arms and connect the hand with wires

[@joeofdoom]

this is prob why space marines have people to help them put on their armour just like medieval knights did looks pretty awesome though wish I could figure out the scaling problems for the one ive got sat in my loft

[@WellingtonIronman]

joeofdoom My servitor was having a little nap haha :)

[@Demetrius900000]

DEM ARMS XD Too short, but otherwise the suit look awesome :D

[@WellingtonIronman]

This is a common complaint when the Marine costume uses stilts... but mine doesn't, so my arms and legs are the same proportion as they should be. What you might be seeing is the shoulder pauldrons being too long (which they probably are) ;)

[@adammoore251]

Show us your attempt? Whats that you never made one?

[@neero7009]

Adam Moore Calm down, he was just criticizing it. And the maker even made a comment agreeing. The person that builds it should be happy with it and flaws with the design can make it less appealing to other people. To find flaws with it you sometimes need other people’s opinions and criticism.

[@colboy1fish]

The arms aren't even that short compared to a normal marine. But I do still agree and I noticed you have a lot of neck visible. What I would do is pad the shoulders a little more so the armor is heigher up (which in turn lifts the pauldrons) and that would give the arms the space they need. I think that would give the suit that bit of refigment it needs.

[@WellingtonIronman]

@@colboy1fish that’s actually exactly what I did, although I never documented the changes.

[@voidremoved]

you shoulda wore a turtleneck. Finally a good reason for turtlenecks to exist

[@WellingtonIronman]

Haha yes part of my suit up usually included a sort of ‘scarf’, often referred to as a neck seal, to conceal the wearers neck.

[@9bstar]

Look at them lil stubby arms theyre adorable

[@davidjohnston1016]

Absolutely loved this series!! Not sure if the best first project for a complete newb to start on but... here I go - May the Emperor protect!

[@WellingtonIronman]

Thank you David. Your kind words are very much appreciated. Good luck with the build!

[@archerdavidson6439]

Imagine being an actual space marine I feel like that would be so cool, protecting your planet and having insane combat

[@WellingtonIronman]

Totally awesome 😎

[@archerdavidson6439]

@@WellingtonIronman ayyyy

[@warhammer5002]

You don't want to be a space marine..... You don't wanna be in 40k

[@andreamaul1603]

Until you get ripped like paper by a swarm of tyranid warriors

[@superguy7044]

The emperor will protect me Immediately shot in the head

[@sitpaintandplay3881]

Absolutely fantastic! Loved it, watched all the way through. I can’t wait to build my own!

[@WellingtonIronman]

Thanks very much! Please feel free to stop by my Facebook page if you want any further advice. facebook.com/wellingtonironman

[@robertflinley1794]

Shoulda made the shoulder pads a smidg smaller

[@WellingtonIronman]

robert flinley yup your right. Easy to see in hindsight :D

[@doop00]

@@WellingtonIronman Indeed but man you did such a good job on this regardless, and to put it on yourself that's the first time I've seen that.

[@Nedkelly1974]

Thank you. I am going to have a crack. I used your links. Found the plans. Downloaded. Now to start. Going to be watching your series of vids alot over the next year.

[@WellingtonIronman]

Great to hear and good luck with your build :)

[@lawrencestanley8989]

Wow... Definitely go to the bathroom BEFORE getting all that on!

[@WellingtonIronman]

Haha you’re not wrong!

[@splatraw3240]

Yes inquisitor it's this post right here!

[@anhta1778]

how space marines actually put on their armor instead of that WH40K video with those robotic arms helping them put it on

[@jeeperscreatures]

Looks Great !..Nice job

[@sophieknoles1659]

This is so amazing thank you 😍

[@groundbreakerexplore]

Thank you so much for this tutorial and ideas bro.

[@cherryannsedaya1013]

You look cute with the arms😅, but it's so cool and I know you put a hardwork on that😉

[@adammoore251]

Id say he is still stuck in that suit. 🤣

[@WellingtonIronman]

Send help! :P

[@WellingtonIronman]

Also the bass lines are indeed awesome lol

[@Da-Wally]

but it still looks amazing man!!!

[@WellingtonIronman]

Thanks!

[@spacedonut9103]

theres a video on how to make a space marine suit right cause i want one so bad just to say BROTHER and scream in anger

[@cscouldbe8883]

Looks great :D I see what you mean about the neck gap though

[@WellingtonIronman]

CS CouldBe Easily fixed. Just because I used soft foam padding, and since I put it in, the armour has had more added to it making it heavier.

[@pinkdaruma8942]

Awesome

[@michaelafton2347]

but its a job well done i must say i never got the time to do it my self but yea good job keep going like that

[@stevemaxwell4756]

i would like to know how the pauldrons and arms are attached to the chest piece

[@vendetta7409]

You probably won't see this, but do you have a rough estimate on the material cost to build the suit, I already have the tools from building an NCR Vet Ranger cosplay and want to know how long I'd need to save up for the foam. Edit: Forgot to mention that the build looks great, thanks for making these.

[@WellingtonIronman]

Kingstone Maxamose hi there. I did see this ;) I’d estimate about $200 on foam but it depends what foam you use and where you get it from

[@hughmungus911]

what did you use inside the boots for the extra height? I've noticed that other space marine costumes have stilts inside the boots to make the person a foot taller.

[@WellingtonIronman]

Check out the photo album on my Facebook page. I've used two different methods. Www.facebook.com/wellingtonironman

[@enginepy]

I do agree the Pauldrons are a bit big, but they are oversized in so many games and artwork.

[@TalexTheLich]

Looks awesome! What chapter is this? Stormseers?

[@WellingtonIronman]

Alexis Simms thanks. It's Storm Wardens

[@eternapesadilla2355]

Most space marines dont have such large shoulderpads. But pther than that.... youre on the right path... try to make it more war ready

[@thenikko8292]

a suit up is not nessessarily to see how the armor works but its more to see the end result of what u build. its like watching a 30 part build series and troughout the whole series viewers are like "oh this is gonna look amazing wen all fited together" then at the end of the show the host is "welp, the suit is done. UNTO the next project now...." ppl want to see what u build XD

[@thenikko8292]

*DISCLAIMER: this is a constructive comment, im pointing out obvious points about the overall craft. not to be mean just to comment about it an explain what i think about it. obviously it a pretty awesome craft. im just being constructive* also imma big fanboy of warhammer 40k series.. also shoulders are too big. i looked ate my mini's shoulder and in comparison. shoulder would've ended a the mid section of your upper arm a little bit above the elbow and the with is suposed to be one time 1/2 your own elbow size. your shoulder pieces was 41/3 of your own shoulders...thus being too big. but if i were to rate your armor i would give a 10 for craftmanship, a 10 for material exploite (obviously bringing foamcraft to a new level) but a 5 to reference/lore/exactitude. (didnt know which one to judge it by..) due to the fact the shoulder size is inexact. the logo on your shoulder is inexact. out of the 20 legion, your logo resemble most to the white scar legion. but in place of a lighting bolt over a shield, instead its over a ribbon. also Your current color scheme resemble the Ultramarine legion. but if you were to follow the rule of coherence and adherence. you shouldv'e picked a color scheme or red and white to fit with the more resemblant symbole of the white scar legion. also ultra marines who sport the blue/white color scheme dont have skulls on their armor. only chaos related legions like the emperor's children legion or even the death guard legion. The only thing you got right on that reguard is the imperium stamps and the overall shape of the armor. the bolter gun is GOLD...absolute gold. u perfectly did the bolter pistol. in MY personal opinion. the armor looks cool. i dont care what logo u put on as long as it looks cool but the shoulders are way too big tho.. In the world of cosplay and comicon related stuff. if ppl are to judge your armor or any craft in that matter...9/10 times they will know about the lore around your crafts more than you do and one thing they will be touchy about is..exactitude. 6/10 times if you show off your armor at a costume contest like they do at blizzcon and such. ppl who get first place is ppl with 100% accuracy and at least 70% quality. in your case its 100% quallity but 70% accuracy.

[@coryc4053]

fastest time titan fall 2

[@purplewabbit7848]

can u please make a video of this with different audio - as if it was a real space marine - ideally he'd be in a rush for battle and in a grumpy mood :) ty for content.

[@WellingtonIronman]

I'd love to but I don't have the suit any more! I did fit a voice changer in it so it gave a deeper and slightly menacing voice though ;)

[@GeneralHAM321]

T-rex edition space marine.

[@WellingtonIronman]

😂 a fair call given you can barely touch hands together

[@GeneralHAM321]

Must say the details n such everywhere else are well done. 💪💪

[@raanangluck2223]

hey, what are those black connecting prices (the legs of the shirts, for example)? my friends and I are making space marine armors, but we can't find anything about what works best for those. What did you use?

[@raanangluck2223]

pieces, not prices, sorry.

[@WellingtonIronman]

+Raanan Gluck it's explained in one of my other videos. they're aluminium ducting covered in black spandex.

[@raanangluck2223]

+Wellington Ironman didn't see that, sorry. thank you very much! that helps a ton.

[@Autechltd]

Watch out if you are planning to cosplay in that anywhere near Alberta Canada.

[@WellingtonIronman]

I live in new Zealand so the chances are pretty low! Is it a colour scheme belonging to a rival hockey team?

[@Autechltd]

​@@WellingtonIronman Ayyy I live in Auckland though I'm on my big OE at the moment (great timing right?). I'm referencing this that just happened. lethbridgenewsnow.com/2020/05/05/lps-to-launch-service-investigation-into-star-wars-day-stormtrooper-arrest/

[@civilprotectionunit8145]

Looks kinda small but it's probably the best you can do with foam

[@WellingtonIronman]

In cannon the suits are between 8 and 9 feet tall, but they’re made to fit marines who are also that size. For a costume you can either choose to make a taller one, and use stilts, or make one that fits the wearer. If you make a tall one, only the legs are longer and the rest of the suit is the same size, plus the arms end up looking too short.

[@jojojango1485]

How did you joint the legs? Also, are the legs dangly?

[@WellingtonIronman]

The knee joints are using hinges and aluminium flat stock. The hips are just using nylon webbing and belt Clips. Yes I suppose they are dangly :)

[@Warhorse469]

Space Marine with T - Rex arms >_

[@WellingtonIronman]

The suit is human scale so the arms are the correct length. They may appear shorter because of the over large shoulders.

[@Warhorse469]

@@WellingtonIronman I know that mate, I was joking lol I love the suit.

[@garyw.1450]

Can I ask how you connect the arms to the body?

[@WellingtonIronman]

The arms connected to the shoulders with nylon webbing and belt clips. The shoulders attached to the chest with a joint involving a modified caster :)

[@watchletter]

The Trex space marine

[@dorittossenpai2268]

" decided not to put on the back pack because I can't put the back pack on"... wut lmao

[@WellingtonIronman]

The back pack is attached to the chest piece after you put it all on. It might ve been possible to attach it prior to lifting it on by myself but it would have risked damaging g something from the extra weight. I usually have someone helping me ;)

[@dorittossenpai2268]

@@WellingtonIronman oh no I understand that I sometimes need minor help with my Mando cosplays I understand the struggle, I was laughing at how you worded the sentence. It was funny.

[@Jbay2608]

Grenades stopping you doing your shoe laces. Typical Space Marine problems.

[@superguy7044]

It's really cool, but I think you may need limb extensions to add height and limb proportion to get it to look proportionally accurate. But other than that, everything looks amazing, I'm surprised you have as much shoulder movement.

[@WellingtonIronman]

Yes the miniatures have non human proportions, but with limb extensions you start to run into problems with the joints in the armour not lining up with your own joints. You can very quickly run into serious mobility issues.

[@superguy7044]

@@WellingtonIronman I saw someone comment below that the shoulder pads could be reduced in scale. I reckon a 25-30% scale reduction would do great.

[@WellingtonIronman]

@@superguy7044 yes I’d agree. I actually cut about 2” of length out of the shoulder pads after this video was made. I believe the files were taken from the computer game so I just made them all to the same scale. In hindsight they could have been done smaller.

[@voidremoved]

Also is he was holding a big ass bolter and chain sword it would distract from the short arms

[@jamielierzer2102]

Where can i find the patterns?

[@boogeyman8571]

You should make a space marine bolter

[@boogeyman8571]

+wellington

[@WellingtonIronman]

I already have a bolt pistol and chainsword :)

[@javiersilva1577]

Looks awesome. It’s awesome to see one that is scaled to human size. The shoulder plates are just a bit too big, nonetheless, the Emperor would be proud.

[@WellingtonIronman]

Thank you! Yes many builds are using stilts but the venue I go to doesn’t permit diy stilts, and with limited visibility I also just felt it was too risky

[@javiersilva1577]

@@WellingtonIronman I’m a fan of the human size build. And if I ever get a chance to make one/get one it will be your size. A lot of cosplay characters are not actually human size, yet people don’t try to accommodate the size so it’s okay for space marine cosplays not to either. Any Comic-Con or costume party you got to you are gonna be the bell of the ball brotha, guaranteed. So much steeze haha

[@serkaven9470]

the proportion are off, its look like the arm are in the shoulder pad....

[@WellingtonIronman]

The model was taken from the computer game and the proportions are as in that game. There are other models that have different proportions. If you look at the other comments you’ll see I’ve talked extensively about the size of the shoulder pauldrons already ;)

[@michaelafton2347]

i just need the suit but i dont have the money to do it :(

[@themechbuilder6171]

t-rex arms 💀

[@Luckymann1223]

Should've reduced shoulder pad's size. I know that makes a bit far from what you tried to cosplay, but it limits your mobility so much, doesn't it?

[@WellingtonIronman]

In hind sight a smaller shoulder might have improved my ability to raise my arms higher, but that would be all. The entire suit is oversized and everything about it restricts mobility, so there is a tradeoff in every piece between aesthetics and mobility.

[@andyroobrick-a-brack9355]

There have been videos describing a breathing system that help the pauldrons move with the arms almost completely. I just wish I knew what that system looked like.

[@shadowthehedgehog809]

Question why did you not just make the shoes and the legs all one piece

[@WellingtonIronman]

A fair question. The ankle joint generally needs two degrees of freedom to be useful, look at your own ankle joint and you’ll see what I mean. The knee can be a simple hinge but to allow you to walk on uneven surfaces, to pose and balance, you need more movement in the ankles. The other reason is that it doesn’t really represent any advantage to have them all together other than having fewer pieces of armour.

[@shadowthehedgehog809]

I see what you mean but I believe that it can still work if you connected them like the hands to the arms on your shoulder piece where it looked like it was connected with some kind of fabric if I am wrong about that statement I apologize

[@WellingtonIronman]

@@shadowthehedgehog809 yes the gloves I had on a piece of fabric which attached to the arms, but this was only so I could take the gloves off and use my hands (like to operate my phone) without having to put the gloves down somewhere, rather than to help with suiting up ;)

[@shadowthehedgehog809]

I see quick question if I were to 3d print some space marine power armor could I use a sort of hinge to connect the shoes to the legs

[@Space_Man909]

The lense is too small and the arms are too short and it needs to be taller

[@mikrotik5473]

Отлично! За Императора!

[@longbarrel7638]

if you, want the shoulders dont have to be that large, trim them down a bit. Or at least up:D

[@WellingtonIronman]

A little while after this video that's exactly what I did. ;)

[@Da-Wally]

i think the pouldrins are too low. it makes the arms look stubby

[@WellingtonIronman]

I'm not so sure. look at how high the top of them are in relation to the helmet. part of it might be the Pauldrons being too long rather than just too low.

[@Da-Wally]

+Wellington Ironman i think it depends on the referance but most art and miniatures ive seen put the pouldrins level with or slightly below the helmet (i think they are meant to protect the head from the side as well as the arms) plus raising them would mean not having to "modify" a finished piece.

[@WellingtonIronman]

I'll look into it :)

[@wellthen.......9384]

Dude you got baby arms

[@WellingtonIronman]

Hahaha. Looks that way huh! Short arms is a common complaint for Marine costumes that use stilts, as the legs then end up long compared to the arms. My suit doesn’t have stilts so the arms are the correct length. What causes the illusion is the oversized shoulder bells. Mine are waaay too long.

[@ideljenny]

The music combined with rather bad audio makes it sometimes hard to understand.

[@WellingtonIronman]

That's what you get for filming on your phone in a garage!

[@nitrocell9287]

Arms too small, Shoulders to big. but nice

[@WellingtonIronman]

You say arms too small, but this is a human sized suit rather than one on stilts, so the arms are exactly the right length. It’s the suits with built in stilts making the legs longer which appear to have too short arms. The shoulders are big though which perhaps makes the arms look shorter. After this video I did actually make the shoulders slightly shorter :)

[@mrmadman654]

those arms are the arms of a heritic

[@WellingtonIronman]

Maybe. But I'm glad you didn't say heretic!

[@minnerdos]

but you can t use your hands xD

[@WellingtonIronman]

I can but only for waving haha

[@minnerdos]

Is there any way in that you can move better your hands? and your arms..? maybe with a smaller shoulder? sorry for my english

[@WellingtonIronman]

+minnerdos hand movement will always be restricted as I'm wearing ice hockey gloves. smaller shoulder Pauldrons would allow more arm movement but the aim of this suit is not really freedom of movement! :)

[@minnerdos]

Yeah I know, I m thinking about to do for me a Space Marine suit but is my first cosplay. I m very worried about the price, or the difficult, the tools maybe I need... I don t know what to do, I saw guides but they are in english so, the better guide I have are your videos. So thanks for all of them!

[@WellingtonIronman]

+minnerdos my pleasure, good luck with your build!

[@dorittossenpai2268]

I noticed most cosplayers make the pauldrons way to huge it's like your all trying to compensate or look cooler but it ends up working again you.

[@WellingtonIronman]

I just made em to the same scale as the rest of the files. I think the pep file I used was ripped from the computer game. And you're right, it's definitely all trying to compensate for the fact that the person inside is not a genetically modified 7ft tall 200kg bodybuilder :D

[@dorittossenpai2268]

@@WellingtonIronman I think it's definitely worth scaling down just a little or ya end up having T rex hands but I mean it's not like it don't look great it's definitely fantastic, but if you try to stay to to specifications of a giant body guard then your cosplay suffers a little.

[@WellingtonIronman]

@@dorittossenpai2268 to be perfectly honest, I'd make them shorter next time. Like removing the bits with the gold/white text

[@afrikayt]

aren't you a little too short for a space marine?