HOW TO MAKE BIG BLOCK FORD POWER PART 2! 514, 521 AND 557 CUBE BBF STROKERS. 700-1,100 HP COMBOS!

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Richard Holdener

Richard Holdener

Жыл бұрын

HOW MUCH POWER CAN I MAKE WITH MY BIG BLOCK FORD? HOW BIG CAN I MAKE MY 460 FORD? WILL A STROKER MOTOR MAKE MORE POWER? HOW MUCH ARE AFR ALUMINUM HEADS WORTH ON A BBF? ARE SUPER COBRA JET HEADS AND GOOD? HOW WELL DO TFS A460 HEADS WORK? WHAT HAPPENS IF I RUN A TUNNEL RAM? CAN I RUN DUAL DOMINATORS ON MY BIG BLOCK FORD? HOW MUCH NITROUS CAN I RUN ON MY BIG BLOCK FORD? CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO WHERE I RAN 5 DIFFERENT BIG BLOCK 460 FORD COMBOS RANGING FROM 700-HP TO 1,100 HP.

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@Parents_of_Twins
@Parents_of_Twins 4 ай бұрын
Powernation did a build a couple years back where they built a max effort 598 BBF and a max effort BBC 632. The 598 got Kaase SR-71 heads and made over 1100hp and the 632 made around 1060 or so. Don't remember exactly on the BBC I know at the end they said they seemed to downplay the difference in power. They actually went to Kaase's shop and talked to him and he was talking how head flow isn't everything in making power. I really like how Kaase is always giving credit to everyone but himself somewhat different than a certain fellow who dabbles in diesels.
@drtb69
@drtb69 Ай бұрын
Mr.Holdner and Kasse are first class gentlemen. Love these guys
@jonmac155
@jonmac155 Жыл бұрын
Come on Richard give the BBF some respect. The best of the big blocks. The Mains. The high cam for the stroker. Many more things. Build a low buck stroker with Kaase heads like the big bang LS and hit the 2K hp mark. Time to recharge the channel with some insanity.
@antonpfleger5448
@antonpfleger5448 Жыл бұрын
They are to busy focusing on gm junk unfortunately
@MrPhukyew
@MrPhukyew Жыл бұрын
You realize he doesn't often build or do much of anything with the engine Dyno right? He is usually just pulling up old Dyno results and doing comparisons because he has so many photos and dynos in his long history of doing this that it's easy for him to create content that many of us have not seen.
@jonmac155
@jonmac155 Жыл бұрын
​@@MrPhukyewI know. Most of the stuff is out there as an old hotrod article. What are his most popular videos? The Big Bang series. He has a 1/4 million subscribers and is going ro run out of old dyno runs at some point. Hence build a relatively budget oriented BBF. Moderately priced stroker kit, decent used heads and build an efi intake which we know he has done in the past. Why not a BBC? It's been done to death. Plus the BBF is a beefier motor. Make the dyno pulls, sell the motor and fund the next project. One of those 1/4 million subscribers must know someone interested. Plus would have the provenance of being the motor everyone has seen.
@MrPhukyew
@MrPhukyew Жыл бұрын
@@jonmac155 that I can agree with, but I feel like he really doesn't need this KZbin channel it's just a hobby for him. So we probably won't see much different in that aspect than what he's already done. I'm thankful for what he has given already on this channel. I learned almost everything I know about cams from this channel so he will always have my support.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
"YOU REALIZE HE DOESN'T OFTEN BUILD OR DO MUCH OF ANYTHING ON THE DYNO RIGHT?" WEEK LONG TRIPS AWAY FROM MY FAMILY EVERY MONTH TO THE DYNO WOULD SAY OTHERWISE-IT IS AMAZING THE THINGS PEOPLE FLAT OUT MAKE UP AND TRY TO PASS AS INFORMATION.
@jfrsgarage7195
@jfrsgarage7195 Жыл бұрын
Putting together a 557 with blue thunder heads and twins turbos for my 63 Fairlane. Should be exciting 😂
@scotttimpany2845
@scotttimpany2845 Жыл бұрын
Way beyond way cool!
@thomaschandler4831
@thomaschandler4831 Жыл бұрын
FKG epic 🏆👍👍😎
@w3r3cow
@w3r3cow Жыл бұрын
Big Block Fords to the top baby!!!!
@thomaspayne1310
@thomaspayne1310 Жыл бұрын
I have a 521 BBF with AFR 280s, decent sized cam and a small carb that made 731hp at Westech. BBF has some great head options nowadays. Pretty easy to make 700HP today.
@markbreaux6613
@markbreaux6613 11 ай бұрын
What Kinda Compression you runnig? I'm Awaiting my BBF from the machine shop, I have a Kaase 520 stroker kit to go in mine with Kaase P51's. Hopefully can see 700 on Pump 93.
@jamesgeorge4874
@jamesgeorge4874 Жыл бұрын
I feel like some 210 Lb/Hr injectors, E85, and twin Ebay GT45's would make a cheap "stoopid powah" BBF. Love your work, Richard, waiting for the next episode.
@michaelparadisis4076
@michaelparadisis4076 Жыл бұрын
I’m a BB Chevy guy but geez the Ford makes some insane power
@cgarris8674
@cgarris8674 Жыл бұрын
As beefy as the OEM 460 block is, a Big Bang 460 would be a great video.
@marcusdj7315
@marcusdj7315 Жыл бұрын
The 514 solid roller wasnt from Comp .Ford racing cam in this engine was 304/306 254/258 .647/.647 112 lsa 107 ica. There was an article round 1999-2002 where the magazine changed from the CJ heads to the SCJ heads and then went through the Comp Cams Xtreme rollers (274XR, 280XR,286XR and 292XR) to dyno right around 700 hp . If I remember correctly the tests started with a 1095 cfm and ended up with a 1295 cfm demon.
@anthonysgarage
@anthonysgarage Жыл бұрын
Love these videos! Your efforts are much appreciated.
@DisabilityExams
@DisabilityExams Жыл бұрын
Need to put that 1,100hp big block in a Fox chassis Fairmont station wagon - with bench seat & hubcaps.
@danieljones685
@danieljones685 Жыл бұрын
Love the content Richard
@zakn3954
@zakn3954 Жыл бұрын
Nice. Those P51 or Trick Flow heads are the ticket if you can get 'em.
@w3r3cow
@w3r3cow Жыл бұрын
I'm just finishing up working over my SCJ heads! All they need is a lil bowl work and smooth out the ridge where the valve seats were cut in.. that really wakes em up!!!
@BroncoConnection
@BroncoConnection Жыл бұрын
Great video 👍🏾
@rotorr22
@rotorr22 Жыл бұрын
The absent head that really would have been a challenger to the A's are the Kaase SR71's. I would like to see a follow up on the 557 with a single carb and the 71's.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
this wasn't a head test
@boydguildner9791
@boydguildner9791 Жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 BUT IT COULD BE
@farnorthhomested844
@farnorthhomested844 4 ай бұрын
i was gonna mention that. every one keeps writing p51.
@JoshF89
@JoshF89 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos richard! Any chance you could do a dyno with standard lifters vs rhoads lifters on the the same cam profile (2 cams obviously for FT ) i would be forever grateful lol
@madmod
@madmod Жыл бұрын
Biiig blooockk!!!
@user-du4eu1jl2y
@user-du4eu1jl2y Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! My 552 BBF making 935 hp with kaase heads, single 1150 carb. Home built, using a 1969 (C9VE) 2 bolt block.
@farnorthhomested844
@farnorthhomested844 4 ай бұрын
which kaase heads?
@GlenEvans-hw8js
@GlenEvans-hw8js 4 ай бұрын
Sr71 heads, flat top pistons, trick flow intake. Needs tunnel ram style intake for more revs/power
@farnorthhomested844
@farnorthhomested844 4 ай бұрын
thanks. you seem like the only 1 with sr71's. do you have to use intake spacers? i dont mean the china wa@@GlenEvans-hw8js
@me3423
@me3423 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a NMCA NA 10.5 build. The Ford Windser based engines in the 400 ci range seem to dominate that class. Those engines rival prostock engines for hp/ci at 3/ci. One of the most exciting NMCA classes in my opinion.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
a 400-inch motor making 1200 hp?
@me3423
@me3423 Жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 Absolutly, but at the risk of doing injustice to those racers in the class, I am not associated with them, just a huge fan, so If I am inaccurate with any info please seek out those individuals involved. These are "Windsor based dimensions" for the the block with highly modified D3 heads. Benjamin Strader of EFI University talks about Robbie Blankenships engine at about 37:42 of the Clutch Burners Podcast Episode 5 kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHa0i3ulYpKDbLM. He says it his 400 ci engine makes 1204 hp at 10,600 rpm on the engine dyno. Robbie's been 7.75 at 175 mph at 2800 pounds, shifting a Liberty 5 speed at 11,200 rpm or so. Reven Even interviewed Leonard Long not long ago kzbin.info/www/bejne/jV7OmYJml7yYrpY. He's won the class five times running a D3 headed 415 ci engine designed by Dave Visner. He claims 1100 horsepower and needs to weigh 2820 for the extra cubic inches. As the owner of Gforce transmissions he runs his own GF2000 5 speed transmission. I'm sure none of these guys will ever do it, but it would be great to see the build up of one of these engines and then see it run on the Dyno.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
THAT IS A LOT
@arturo5819
@arturo5819 Жыл бұрын
I have the 514 scj in my 70 mustang. Made 498 rwhp on a mustang dyno.
@DeLonghe_P_Ness
@DeLonghe_P_Ness Жыл бұрын
I wanna see this BBF 460 Stroker on boost, ProCharger vs Turbo!
@Tegridynews
@Tegridynews Жыл бұрын
557 ford here
@utahcountypicazospage5412
@utahcountypicazospage5412 Жыл бұрын
Seems like on most set up afr is a good choice always in the top for hp/tq
@Bradvision
@Bradvision Жыл бұрын
How about a NA 580” SINGLE CARB CAST MANIFOLD with SR71’s that makes 1094 hp @ 7600 rpm and 858 to @ 6100 rpm. I can show you the way, and would love to get the intake that was use to you for additional testing.
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 Жыл бұрын
I really wish that even though I am legally blind that I could fly out and work side by side with you building an FE as a tribute to Ken Miles, boost and all. I think what you do is awesome.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
thnx
@fnafplayer6447
@fnafplayer6447 5 ай бұрын
There is surgery you can get nowadays
@randyburch6306
@randyburch6306 Жыл бұрын
Plan on going this route in my 84 thunderchicken
@carterlee8344
@carterlee8344 11 ай бұрын
Richard, Two things; DV, goes to great lengths to show why LSA is more of a factor than many wish to believe. All these cams are 110 LSA, are potentially way off and would improve everywhere with maybe even 102 LSA. Power AND Torque at these compression levels. Intake inertia signal. This transitions to my second comment. With the increasing street torque trade off at each power plateau is there a way to fill in that torque hole below Three K with higher velocity ports or with a low threshold of boost with a tight hot side? Maybe even a variable turbine housing? Maybe you may wish to for content sake do the late ignition timing trick where the mixture goes off inside the exhaust manifold ahead of the turbine inlet for us for testing purposes? Ever mess with that? I thing Norwood, came up with that a long time ago and many of the big wigs from Formula One were pumping him for his secret to instant full boost with a large turbocharger.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 11 ай бұрын
I know David very well and understand LSA (it's actually valve events and not strictly LSA). Formula 1 going to Norwood for turbo answers is very unlikely.
@fraserfab68
@fraserfab68 Жыл бұрын
I've got a 460 I need to build to put in my 68 cougar. Mild ported D0VE heads, hoping for 600hp but mostly wanna run 10's. Now just have to learn how to build an engine...
@bri-manhunter2654
@bri-manhunter2654 Жыл бұрын
Set up properly you should easily get in the 10’s.
@fraserfab68
@fraserfab68 Жыл бұрын
@@bri-manhunter2654 ladder bar backhalf, 10.5w tire, coilovers, 9" with spool and 4:10's, c6 with 3k stall.
@bri-manhunter2654
@bri-manhunter2654 Жыл бұрын
@@fraserfab68. Sounds spicy!! Gotta love BB’s!! Good luck sir!
@I_like_turtles_67
@I_like_turtles_67 Жыл бұрын
You're not going to have much room between the shocktowers on that cougar. Fantastic cars. I'd give serious consideration in going with a small block. Even long tubes on a 351w can get tight. My cousin had a 70 cougar with a 351c. He hated doing sparkplugs on it lol.
@fraserfab68
@fraserfab68 Жыл бұрын
@@I_like_turtles_67 I clearanced 1.5" on each shock tower. Spark plugs should not be a problem. I am thinking about replacing front suspension with AJE coilover kit which should allow even more tower removal. BBF Is already mounted via front motor plate.
@stephenhans189
@stephenhans189 10 ай бұрын
There's is two bolt mains 👍💯🇺🇸
@johnherbold6539
@johnherbold6539 Жыл бұрын
Speaking of big blocks or rather the replacement of one, are you actually going to dyno the Build it Yourself 4v Triton V10?
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
I offered if they get it done
@MrMrBigro
@MrMrBigro 4 ай бұрын
Hi Richard I like your show I defy you to make 200 hp out of a ford v6 2.8 liter are you game?
@scotttimpany2845
@scotttimpany2845 Жыл бұрын
@jon mac... Yes, I admit I got into this particular video and the comments. Seems some other guys like it too! Anyway, I'm a posting machine gun today since Ive been busy with other stuff for a while. As far as Ford fan? Some guys say they are fans of anything that makes power. I'll say I am pro-American (as opposed to anti-import) brands - mostly because I am American. Two Lane Blacktop, American Graffiti, Corvette Summer, Vanishing Point, Christine, all that stuff! I've always run GM stuff (except for a brief love affair with a 2012 Boss Mustang), but the big cube Fords have always captured my interest. Why? Because it's Ford, it's American, it's "expandable", and it makes a sh***** of power.
@pearlguy6351
@pearlguy6351 2 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t mind having one of these mammoths in my 72 Gran Torino fastback but I’m 351W kind of guy
@Aladinscave
@Aladinscave 9 ай бұрын
How reliable is the 460 at 800hp as a street and strip motor 😊turning it 7000rpm ?
@michaelkimmey8182
@michaelkimmey8182 Жыл бұрын
Could you try this with a Blower?
@louislavoie1238
@louislavoie1238 3 ай бұрын
4.700" bore 3.590" stroke
@johnb7430
@johnb7430 Жыл бұрын
Let's see some FE love! 390 going to 444 stroker
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 Жыл бұрын
Please do a 4.125bore and 3.98 stroke FE , some Bear Block Blair Patrick heads and intake. Molmar makes great rods, but factory rods from Blair and I wish I had a core I would loan you, but I don’t. A set of PSE crossbolted mains on 2 and 4. An iron crank the Bear 2x4 TW or a TFS single track heat. A 4.125x 3.98 425.50 cubes. They can do 850 hp NA. Bring the CR down and boost it. 1100 hp. That bottom end ran on the Cammer. With turbos this block is as light as a small block and can really rip. No one wants to do it. They are astounding! Blair Patrick is your man. He even has iron heads that can blow your mind! I know that without a doubt. This engine was the 60s Ford NASCAR and it kicked Enzo’s cars back to the village they came from and the Ford drivers were smiling from ear to ear. And remember RIP, Ken Miles who died without winning his triple crown he deserved testing the J Car. The 427 was rock solid against the world. This would make any Ford or any real race fans dream come true. Ken Miles deserves it. A tribute. HF2s “perfect engine “as he told the Countess.
@stevenminix
@stevenminix Жыл бұрын
BES builds killer bbf’s
@ExpAI
@ExpAI Жыл бұрын
Do you ever sell any of your parts
@gearratio380
@gearratio380 Жыл бұрын
that almost matches the power of that 632 gm crate engine with less cu in
@turbojoe9554
@turbojoe9554 6 ай бұрын
aint seen anyone do it yet, but I'd like to see one of these 557's tested with gasoline, then switch it over to methanol.
@russelljackson7034
@russelljackson7034 Жыл бұрын
Right on
@JeffKopis
@JeffKopis 7 ай бұрын
9:00 Rich, on the 557, were you still using a standard 460 block, or the A460? It was my understanding that you could only use A460 heads on an A460 block.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 7 ай бұрын
std block
@marcusdj7315
@marcusdj7315 2 ай бұрын
2 versions of the A460 heads one uses a 10 bolt pattern ( same as stock ) the other uses an 18 bolt pattern which would used on the A460 block or other aftermarket blocks
@rogerdavis4272
@rogerdavis4272 3 ай бұрын
What about some Kaase SR71 heads and stick with all motor tests. No N20!
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 3 ай бұрын
why no NOS?
@rogerdavis4272
@rogerdavis4272 3 ай бұрын
What happens when you run out of NOS? NOS, in my mind is a crutch for guys who can't or don't want to spend the money to build a motor.
@trailerparkcryptoking5213
@trailerparkcryptoking5213 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it’s the scaling but that first HP/Tq curve looks odd.....
@deansapp4635
@deansapp4635 8 ай бұрын
Why not hit the easy button at 4500 RPM ?
@speedmullen
@speedmullen Жыл бұрын
Hurray!! Just add PSI!
@BKMDano17
@BKMDano17 Жыл бұрын
I have SCJ-a heads and max lift is 65! You must have been using SCJ-b and solid lifters???
@w3r3cow
@w3r3cow Жыл бұрын
Only difference is springs and retainers.. The b heads get 10 deg retainers and the a heads get 7 deg ones. Stiffer springs for the b heads too..
@BKMDano17
@BKMDano17 Жыл бұрын
@@w3r3cow then he shouldn't be able to run a cam with a 673 lift
@douglash3129
@douglash3129 Жыл бұрын
You could put your fist in those int. ports!!
@ronsmith7739
@ronsmith7739 Жыл бұрын
The most important item in camshafts is "valve overlap" and most people have no idea whats going on in the valve train. Oh, and use .005 / 006 start lift , .05 start lift means little !!! Lobe Separation angle also means little, use valve overlap, that tells more about whats going on than anything else.
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
overlap is only 1 thing, and overlap with a 260/270 cam is different than the same overlap with a 210/220 cam
@ronsmith7739
@ronsmith7739 Жыл бұрын
@@richardholdener1727 Still, valve overlap says a lot. One cannot use vacuum power brakes with a 90 degree valve overlap or be very difficult.
@Art70s
@Art70s Жыл бұрын
Time to supercharge it
@bigboreracing356
@bigboreracing356 Жыл бұрын
Twin turbo
@P71ScrewHead
@P71ScrewHead Жыл бұрын
5:14 Correct me if i'm not wrong..lol
@bill2178
@bill2178 Жыл бұрын
ricardo i wish i had your job and u had a better one
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
YOU CAN HAVE MY JOB-IT'S JUST YOU TUBE-START A CHANNEL IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE
@travissmith7803
@travissmith7803 9 ай бұрын
400m is the best bbf
@allenroth351
@allenroth351 Жыл бұрын
What can u do with a 351m?
@daveanderson3164
@daveanderson3164 Жыл бұрын
Look up the Myers racing I think they have a 420ci stroker kit 3v/4v heads and a good intake alot can be done a 351m and a 400 are same motor basically and share parts with Windsors and Cleveland
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 Жыл бұрын
see the 400m video
@pmd7771969
@pmd7771969 Жыл бұрын
That torque drop off was baaaddddd. Sucks. Bloodviking
@pmd7771969
@pmd7771969 Жыл бұрын
Sucks not on 93 pump gas.
@timweb1510
@timweb1510 Жыл бұрын
Sbf
@madmod
@madmod Жыл бұрын
Modular!!!
@timweb1510
@timweb1510 Жыл бұрын
@@madmod sbf
@bigboreracing356
@bigboreracing356 Жыл бұрын
Coyote
@madmod
@madmod Жыл бұрын
Toyota R series 4 cylinders
@timweb1510
@timweb1510 Жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 sbf
@williamhardes8081
@williamhardes8081 Жыл бұрын
so being realistic, by the time your getting up to 600-650+ about the only thing left that is a " ford short block" is the block? BTW could that curve dip around 4500-5000 be partly because of timing curve? is the timing curve controlled by the distributor or ignition box? wouldn't EFI just fix just about all of the gremlins? face it, by the time your this far into the build $ wise, what the F@@k is another few hundred for a pre-wired loom an LS throttle body and an injector rail? in USD how much? $1000 - 1500? your already at about $8 - 10K into the build! make it more reliable and easy to configure for just about any setup? I am kinda jealous though. i admit it straight out. by about the 700 - 800 Hp where i am, we would already be looking at a $20000 long block with alloy heads. conservatively! i would have also gone forced induction before NOS. forced induction could add massive power without the will it grenade if the NOS jets i chose were too big. i can change boost with a spring and a press of a key.
@unclesquirrel6951
@unclesquirrel6951 Жыл бұрын
Personally I blame squirrels.......✅✔️
@raginroadrunner
@raginroadrunner 6 ай бұрын
The question is,,willit beat the Pro Stock Chibbies? Im betting it wont come close..so why put forth all the effort???
@richardholdener1727
@richardholdener1727 6 ай бұрын
none of these are Pro Stock Builds
@raginroadrunner
@raginroadrunner 6 ай бұрын
then why even waste yur time?
@pmd7771969
@pmd7771969 Жыл бұрын
Not on all motor. Sucks. Nos
@douglash3129
@douglash3129 Жыл бұрын
360 degrees duration and 1 inch lift!!
@stevepaul8500
@stevepaul8500 Жыл бұрын
Ford all day long chevy blocks 500 horse max lol 460 block 1100 horse
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