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@newphilmz36052 жыл бұрын
Props for keeping this form of media alive. Cassettes will never die.
@jedjarman5 жыл бұрын
Wow, love that Mac photo. He has definitely been one of my biggest influences for diving into the analog world. Great video, keep it up!
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
Heck, yeah! Same here. Jason actually sketched that photo of Mac for me haha. Will do. Thanks for watching!
@BugzKiller5 жыл бұрын
Any relation to "Big Mac"?
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
Nah Royale with Cheese
@johnwitherspoon78425 жыл бұрын
Good to see demarco helping out! Very informative mike! Thanks dude
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
He's the man haha thanks, Jradd!
@helluvakhai5 жыл бұрын
Yes! Totally need this!
@dbmorton11145 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, First, congrats on your first two years of the channel. I'm diggin' it even if I don't have tme to watch all the live streams! Useful info here as usual, in particular as I near completion of my recording project. Kudos!
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
Thanks db. Thanks for coming a long on the ride. Glad to hear this series is helping. Pt. 3 coming soon where we talk about artwork and cases. Cheers!
@mccreature5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips! Looking forward to pt 3.
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, mccreature. We'll be diving into artwork and cases next time. Thanks for watching!
@halloweenlisteningparty3 жыл бұрын
Your video music is unique and great, it completely works for your videos!
@DJWreckAlot5 жыл бұрын
this is actually one of the best video series i've ever watched! im a very big in depth person as well as simplicity and you explained very well! i just purchased some cassettes and right when you talked about the length of each side is half the C number i was like ouch thats me haha!
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks a lot and thanks for watching! The final part on shipping and selling will be out this Friday at 3pm EST. There's also a director's cut coming soon describing all the background footage; that one should be a lot of fun. Haha sorry to hear about the C number. You'll have to save them for another project!
@late4suppa13 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, I just bought the Tascam Model 12 Mixer and loved your video on that. I also just bought a rack mountable Tascam 130 / 3 head cassette deck which the owners manual suggests is perfect for mixdown applications. I record through an outboard preamp/EQ into a compressor, then into the Tascam Mixer which also has a great EQ, then into my DAW. What I want to do with the cassette deck is to take the final master I create in my DAW which by then will have already had alot of analog influence record it to the cassette deck, then back to the DAW. My hope is that the tape will warm it up and I can finish it off that way. If this doesn't work I'll record the master coming out of my monitor speakers to tape and send that to the DAW. Anyways I know people do this type of thing all the time with 4 track recorders and reel to reels. I wanted to try it with a more high end traditional tape deck as a way of warming up the sound without having to find a place for some huge Reel to Reel or deal with some multitrack tape recorder I don't need, since I only record one track at a time anyways. So love your channel, I'm subscribed and would love to hear any of your thoughts on this. I play music back now through my Tascam 12, put just a little Studio effect from onboard effects in playback and it just glues everything together in a way that digital never has. Just that one trick alone encouraged me to keep looking for different options. I couldn't be happier with the Tascam, it does EVERYTHING and the playback sounds 1000 better than anything I had before.
@424Recording3 жыл бұрын
Congrats, Dean! I actually just made this video on this topic, partially inspired by your comment! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWG5hKuGarKAi6s It's a quick run through of how I master digital tracks thru the cassette/424. It's a great idea and something I've done often over the years. It always seems to help and make a track more exciting. The trick is to hit the tape hard enough but not too hard; there's definitely experimenting that you need to try each time out. I really enjoy the Model 12/424 combo and yeah, that studio reverb effect is amazing! Thanks for watching!
@TigerClawTV5 жыл бұрын
Cool video man. I have been listening to my copy of that tape shown in the video for the past week or so. It came out sounding really good. All the work you put into mastering really pays off.
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear! I spent way longer than I probably needed to mastering them haha. Thanks again for picking up a copy via Painted Blonde 🤓
@viewfromfen9181 Жыл бұрын
Hey, Mike, thanks for doing all these contents, I really love them! Can we use the 424 recorder itself to duplicate tapes? hope you are still around
@StollerEaven3 жыл бұрын
You missed something important. Leveling with a test tone on different tape types. I’m limiting at minus 0,2db at my daw. Then I use a 1khz test tone at 0db. At the tape deck I set this test tone on fero oxide tapes +5db and on chrome tapes +3db. If you use fero oxide tapes on too low level, you have a very high hiss level. And noise is not pleasant.
@424Recording3 жыл бұрын
Great tip. Thanks!
@JIMONAH5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mike, you always make great quality content. You're helping keep the artform alive and appreciate it big time. Much love
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks a lot, James! Appreciate you. Thanks for watching 😎
@fratertater61305 жыл бұрын
Love this series!
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jody!
@davidreidy57502 жыл бұрын
Actually doing this myself,almost done!⚡🤖⚡
@devinanthony57734 жыл бұрын
Currently trying to do this with one of my albums and came here like a few weeks into the process. I ran into very similar conclusions with the EQ! I'm going from FL mobile on my phone transferred into Audacity for mastering, much like you were saying (dropping the bass, but I had to shave off the highs on mine), then onto a Tascam DP-800, THEN into a CD/tape player. Makes my head spin lol
@424Recording4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Sounds like you've got the hang of it though? I'm glad the video helped! Cheers, Devin!
@devinanthony57734 жыл бұрын
Lol well kinda, but this video was quite the affirmation!
@424Recording4 жыл бұрын
Oh, awesome! Let me know if you have any questions!
@ACURAOCULTA3 жыл бұрын
Very good my friend
@424Recording3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@MikeFoerster5 жыл бұрын
Where does one find a picture of mac?
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info
@jessefillmore5 жыл бұрын
Work has kept me away from the TascFAM but I'm glad we have a club that will help with all Tascam and 4 track cassette recording and recording in general . I'm supposed to be picking up a MK O2 Portastudio and starter pack still with originals boxes for $50 . That is a deal nowadays . I hope they don't go up in price cause 4 track cassette recording use to be budget recording but nostalgia finally caught up . Buy them now , I say . Type 2 and 4 cassettes are hard to find and expensive on ebay . I bought a bunch before the craze hit . NAC is finally completely sold out of the 799 Studio Masters :(
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear J-man. Hey did you post a pic of this deal to Facebook? I think I just saw it on there haha. Congrats!
@balloonsballoon4 жыл бұрын
One suggestion I have is putting a dither on those digital bounces. exporting the files is gonna cause write errors because logic is 32bit float. when I put ditherbon my mixes, I felt like my ear could pick out details in the music more easily.
@424Recording4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I'll have to check this out! Thanks for the tip!
@kalenbaker79014 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, Great video. I've been wanting to make my own tapes to cut down on cost of getting my music out there and might want to start a label eventually. I was a little confused about the transition in the video to the tape mastering. Do you dub a tape, record it back into the daw, master and then record that to the other blanks or is there something I'm missing? Please let me know as I'd like to do as good of a job as I can on the first try, Thanks!
@424Recording4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Kalen! That's awesome. It's definitely a fun process if you like to make stuff at home. I'd say once you get above certain quantities, it might make sense to get them pressed, but for short runs, DIY at home is the best. I always master digitally. So whether you have cassette or digital tracks, you can bounce them to the computer and then master them in the DAW. Once you have the master, you can then record the master via an MP3 player or old phone or computer to the tapes. Usually just headphone out to the RCAs on the tape deck. Tape to tape is doable but it's a lot more work! Good luck and happy recording!
@serious_about_men3 жыл бұрын
Could you put a download link to that picture of Mac in the description?
@xrichardx Жыл бұрын
Got any good guides on how to set up the mix in Logic like you have here? I have to import finished mixes from a Tascam, but i need to make it match up with tape length and throw some mastering on there, but i am horrible with logic
@sonnizen14264 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for an informative video! I have a question, how did you know that you had to cut so much low end from the tape master? Are you able to monitor it on tape while working, or did you have to record several times to go back and forth between DAW and tape to hear what was up? Thanks
@424Recording4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, great question. I recorded it a bunch of times to a tape. I mixed the tracks, made a test tape, listened back on a few sound sources, took notes, made adjustments, remixed, rinse and repeat. It took a while haha. Also, knowing the frequency response of the tapes helped to ball park it or get an idea of what might need to be adjusted and where but it was 80% test tape many times
@guillaumealtamira71155 жыл бұрын
dubbin my very first cassette tonight, so i take a look at your video and have a pray on mac photo😂 thanks mike!!!
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
Haha make sure you pat Mac. Probably the most important part!
@guillaumealtamira71155 жыл бұрын
@@424Recording and.... IT s WORKING !!!!!😇🙏
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
Woohooo
@jasonelambeth5 жыл бұрын
MAAAAACCC!
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
😂
@adriandelgadogallegos99964 жыл бұрын
Hey, Mike, thanks a lot for making These videos! I have learned a lot and since I'm about to start making my own Merch, came up with something I hadn't thought of before, and I was wondering, would it be better to use a cassette deck or a simple stereo with cassette/Cd/Radio player to record my cassettes? I know both would be possible, but what about the quality between both?
@424Recording4 жыл бұрын
Hey, my pleasure, Add! That's great that the videos have been inspiring to you. I think you'd have to try both and compare. There's a lot of factors and different models and price points. Thanks for watching!
@CaptainRyMM4 жыл бұрын
Hoping I can use this information to record a podcast. Thank you.
@424Recording4 жыл бұрын
Record the podcast to tape?
@CaptainRyMM4 жыл бұрын
@@424Recording I mean to "store" a podcast on tape. My bad, also I realized that storing an entire podcast on tape is highly unrealistic 😅 very expensive considering one episode could fit on one side or the whole tape.
@424Recording4 жыл бұрын
Oh, yeah! That'll work! Haha yeah that's true
@greatfelixo3 жыл бұрын
I am thinking about dubbing my own cassettes for an upcoming release. Would it be good practice to first get my music professionally mastered for digital release (which we will do anyway) and then take that audio file, stick it in logic and put an eq on it to make up for the frequency response of the tape before dubbing the tape?
@424Recording3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you could do it that way. The way I've done it is to just throw the tracks in Logic and make sure the volume between tracks is even. And then do the EQ for the tape. As long as the tape sounds good track to track volume wise/EQ wise it should be good to go!
@tedhuggins7644 жыл бұрын
@424 Recording hey man, great video. One thing I would like your advice on though, you briefly mentioned about recording audio from your DAW to the cassette, how do I connect my cassette machine to my DAW? You mentioned an RCA cable on the cassette machine, but where would that go into my computer so I could record audio from my DAW to the cassette? Cheers
@424Recording4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Harvey. Check out this playlist. It should answer all of your questions: kzbin.info/aero/PLxvSYDmM5diqeKJZ7JLdEnSkrI5o16s3y
@godofspacetime3333 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, I’m wondering what you do about Dolby NR. It’s my understanding that back in the day any tape you’d buy from major artists were recorded with Dolby B, I guess they assumed basically every tape deck had it idk. But do you make your copies with noise reduction on? Or do you just record hot to get over the hiss? I’m wondering what common practice is among artists making their own tapes these days. Thanks!
@424Recording3 жыл бұрын
I personally always record stuff hot enough. It might not be possible with certain types of music. I find for the stuff I write and record, it sounds better to me without NR, as long as I hit the tape hard enough to overcome the noise floor
@LouisSerieusement4 жыл бұрын
Aha the Noir et Blanc vie music :p Didn't except to find it here on a cassette tutorial ! Love everything he does :D Thanks for the vids, I'm trying to know exactly how I'm gonna do this, either with a digital master or a master tape ; a master tape would be much more convenient because I can copy x4 speed but I have to work my way to have a better and a fix process for this, many variable to try and adjust ; Thanks ! Cheers from France :)
@424Recording4 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome! It sounds like you're on the right track. Yeah, Stephen is great. I had a chat with him a couple years back on my podcast if you're interested. Cheers and thanks for watching! anchor.fm/424recording/episodes/Episode-008-Noir-Et-Blanc-Vie-Pt--1-e1vrr5
@LouisSerieusement4 жыл бұрын
@@424Recording Thanks a lot ! I'll listen to it for sure, I love Noir's spirit, he is such a nice chap :)
@dylanrowleyprod3 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to record into one machine through the line in, then connect the line out to the line in of another deck? I feel like that would be efficient if someone had two decks, but could be a pain to get sounding right.
@424Recording3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I think Jason does do this now. I only have one deck unfortunately. Great idea, Dylan!
@EmergencyChannel3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe you don't have a dubbing machine. I'd go insane dubbing in real time a couple dozen tapes.
@LosFicosMusic Жыл бұрын
Can we hear it???
@MatrixAlphaCWX4 жыл бұрын
National Audio Company sells the versions with tabs. I tried recording on my dual cassette Sony ZX6 stereo from cd and it sounded like poop played back. Nothin like listening to my bought Ratt cassette where it's clear as day and perfect drums! How good is this double cassette deck?
@424Recording4 жыл бұрын
Maybe a dedicated deck is what you're looking for. Jason uses that deck for his label so I am assuming it is solid
@bobsbits53572 жыл бұрын
hi have a 1/8 tape reel to reel slave at reel time i under what you are saying using home decks is not good for big numbers wear on all the parts of the decks i use a otari mtr 12 with cassette heads one it i load tape in to cassette bodies with a otari dp2700 DP2700 x 2 were fix up decks can you have a reel to reel with 1/8 tape yes getting spools is the thing basf made 8 1/4 spool x 1 /8 inch
@ericstevens94264 жыл бұрын
any lack of software tips to transfer a tape i mixed onto from my tascam porta 02 that i want to digitize? i ran it from my nice tape deck through line in into audacity and didn't try to mess with anything else but don't know if i'm thrilled with how the digital files sound in some playback scenarios. I'm a lil convinced the tape audio sounds better by a good chunk depending on what playback scenario i'm comparing it too.
@424Recording4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think it always sounds better playing back off the tape. To me it goes from a 3D sound to a 2D sound. I would recommend getting a good soundcard/interface unless the quality of your recording isn't suffering (like the kbps)
@michitapes4 жыл бұрын
@@424Recording i think the quality of my recordings suffer intentionally lolll. my default recording process has been recording guitar tracks on portable table top desks with a mic for electric guitar or the internal mic for acoustic then transferring that tape audio into a tape in my tascam porta 02 and then recording the other instruments straight into the tascam. so there's a lot of natural hiss sometimes with the acoustic recordings using the room heavy internal mic. i released an album where i think the acoustic guitar track was transferred from 4 different tapes from the initial recording to the cassette i would give people of the album (i unnecessarily made a master tape that had the tracks all out of order so then i had to make a master dub tape from the larger master tape). do you have any audio interface recommendations that feel pretty transparent but maybe not cold either, and won't break the bank? something compatible or at least doesn't get in the way of the tape feeling? i think i've seen ART ones that seem nice that are tube driven. seen another one locally in pittsburgh, Akai EIE Pro 24 bit going for 200. That's a lil out of my price range but looks pretty cool and nice (analog VU meters bby) 4 in x 4 out going direct line in from my tape deck into audacity through my dell latitude 5580 wasn't bad but it wasn't the best and i think i could benefit from having a nicer interface to throw tape audio through into the computer. i could kind of hear the sound of the soundcard being applied to the audio compared to how the tape audio is.
@jackcristo20524 жыл бұрын
What recording deck are you using to record music onto the cassette?
@424Recording4 жыл бұрын
Nakamichi CR1A
@marcelovalenzuela51745 жыл бұрын
TDK LOS MEJORES CASSETTES
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
Yeah they're solid!
@patrickpalomares59835 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, what's your take on recording demos with type i cassettes on a 4 track. I'm about to get into 4 track recording, and it seems as though type i cassettes are more common (and cheaper). I plan on doing demos and learning the craft on type i while stocking up on type iis when the time comes to record an album. Great content man! I see your channel becoming my haven when I get my 4 track! Cheers!
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
Hey, Patrick! Thanks for watching. Glad to be a haven haha. My understanding is the Type II's are more resilient. You'll probably wind up needing to clean the machine a lot more if you're planning to do a lot of recording with the Type Is. I know there's also a service to re-bias your 4-track to use Type Is as even NAC, where I've gotten my Type IIs from forever, is no longer making them. The Type Is will work but they're not optimal. Cheers!
@patrickpalomares59835 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice! Just ordered a set of type iis!
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
@@patrickpalomares5983 Awesome! Glad to help. Happy recording
@stonedcologne4 жыл бұрын
Why do I have to have a 28 minutes tape when one side is only 14 minutes long? Was it for that hidden track only?
@424Recording4 жыл бұрын
The total time of a tape will be the total amount of material. So if an album is 28 minutes long, you'll need to have a 28 minute tape. But it's rare to have both sides of the tape be the same length. Maybe the first 5 songs are 14 minutes long, and the last 4 songs are only 12 minutes long. So now you'll need 2 extra minutes on the second side to fill up the final 2 minutes of the tape
@xorben19814 жыл бұрын
What Tape Type do you use?
@424Recording4 жыл бұрын
Type II for recording Type I for the tapes 😎
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
becoolcowboy.bandcamp.com
@atomicriffsofficial5 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike! Do you recommend any particular deck? What do you think about a Teac C-2x? I want to make my own tapes and also I was thinking about mastering or at least mixing down everything analog, no computer, going from my 424 to a deck like the Teac c2x. Here it's my album: atomicriffs.bandcamp.com/releases I'm not very happy with the digital mastering wich was done by a friend, he ''clean'' the tracks by cutting a lot of the ''noise'' frequencies so I feel like it sound more ''washed'' than the original mix without any digital process. What do you think? Should I get a deck for mastering/mixdown and recording my DIY tapes? Thanks a lot! I love your videos, they really help me a lot! I'm a big fan from Argentina!
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, Fran. Glad you're digging the series. I'd say any stereo deck will do you all right. The ones Jason and I are using are cheap refurbished ones from thrift stores and 2nd hand shops. Big thing about them is having one that works! Super Sonic Sound sounds awesome; it's tough to say without a comparison to the original. I honestly think the mix always loses something when going from the tape to digital. I think this sounds great and you should keep going and not get too caught up in the mastering. Try it a different way next time. I'd say if you have the funds and want to experiment, go for it. You could get an outboard compressor as well to use during mixdown. Either way, just keep going. I think you're crushing it 🙌
@atomicriffsofficial5 жыл бұрын
@@424Recording Thanks a lot! I really appreciate your words! I'm going to keep looking for a nice deck, at least one that works fine haha.
@424Recording5 жыл бұрын
Do it up! Yeah, I think that's all you'd need 🤘
@eve92534 жыл бұрын
Jeezz I don’t have anything of these things just the phone and iPad :)))
@424Recording4 жыл бұрын
Whatever works! Happy recording!
@FLH3official3 жыл бұрын
Dolby or not dolby, that is the question...
@424Recording3 жыл бұрын
Isn't it always
@FLH3official3 жыл бұрын
@@424Recording Yes, perhaps, but why?
@Happy_Guy12376 ай бұрын
Post Malone?
@sc0or Жыл бұрын
To use Nakamichi to record from an iPhone (to play it on a modern trash "walkman" more likely)? Don't you see some things that are out of a human logic?
@extinctionistrecordsblackm63804 жыл бұрын
how stupid is it to use inkjet printer if im printing dozens of copies a month? im paying a fortune on stupid overpriced ink cartridges.. purely losing money because of this
@424Recording4 жыл бұрын
Hey I left you some thoughts on the other thread. Good luck!