How to make the perfect Fighting Game Controller (featuring the whiteboard)

[@rollbustah]

As someone who has been searching for the perfect 6 button fightpad for ages as well, this video speaks to my soul. Currently using the Xbox version of the 8bitdo M30 since it has extra shoulder buttons and is wired. It's almost perfect but it's just so tiny in my hands. If 8bitdo made a pro version of the M30 that was bigger and had handles and was chunkier, it'd be my dream controller.

[@blues2270]

the worst part of being a pad player is knowing the perfect pad doesn't exist

[@RushG]

Big facts

[@thefutureisbread]

dualshock 4 is the closet to perfect but durability holds it back and its also expensive to replace

[@yeagmatic]

for me that was going to be the gamesir tarantula pro. it had everything i wanted for every genre of game i play. but then it came out and reviewers said the sticks felt accurate but laggy, and (importantly, for tekken) the diagonals on the tactile dpad were hard to press. now i dont know if i should get it also Fakespot analysis gives their Amazon listing a D, so they're faking reviews (?)

[@SUREILLBYTE]

I think the perfect pad exists, it's just that everyone has a different "perfect pad". The best pad right now for me is the Xbox series x/s pad.

[@sheikhu1039]

Razer Raion is pretty close, the one thing I wish it had is back buttons

[@markmessi9020]

I love the Hori Fighting Commander Octa! That said, i dont use the furthest right two face buttons at all. I use it like a normal xbox pad and place my right middle finger on the back shoulder button. Left side is normal grip. It feels so good to use!

[@M_Knight99]

Hi Rush. You are definitely not crazy. Ive tried about 10 different pads and nothing can replace my old fighting commander.

[@RushG]

@@M_Knight99 it was such a good pad. That with the L3 and R3 buttons would be amazing

[@DocDarkAngelo]

Of course It's a damn good controller.

[@saltyluigi4011]

sadly mine broke... the new hori octa is fine but I miss my old controller

[@thagamersdivision72]

Im think about getting the victrix pro bfg ps5 for sf6.. should i???

[@davecooper303]

30 odd years have passed since the humble six button fight pad for the sega mega drive was released.. and it's still one of the best fight pads to this day. Tells you everything!!

[@RushG]

@@davecooper303 they certainly set the standard. Manufacturers just need to build upon that design

[@MelioUmbraBelmont]

8 bitdo M30 is PERFECT Works on windows Nintendo Switch A version for Xbox

[@RushG]

@MelioUmbraBelmont it is buts its tiny. It's made for toddlers 🙃

[@casanovafunkenstein5090]

One observation that I'd make is that having the six button layout on the face of the controller is cumbersome. You'll never actually hit all three punches for a super unless you change your grip or use a shoulder button as a macro. It would potentially be more efficient to have all of the face buttons moved to the underside of the grips, with the front of the controller featuring two directional pads and some macro buttons. Charge inputs and more complex motions could be executed so much more efficiently if the directional input can be shared between two thumbs and moving between directions could be done without the need to return to neutral in between.

[@RushG]

With 6 button layout I always have shoulders mapped to 3P and 3K. The purple of the face buttons is the access to all Lights, Mediums, Heavies on the front of the controller. I don't like using L1 and L2 for my standard moveset. In SF6 I would map them as Drive Impact and Drive Parry

[@KarlGosling]

The second gen Sega Saturn controller has been the gold standard for fighting games since release back in the 90's.

[@RushG]

@@KarlGosling Sega Saturn and 6 button Mega Drive pads set the standard, most manufacturers have made abominations since then. Frustrating

[@KarlGosling]

@@RushG very much so! But thankfully a simple USB adapter allows you to still use them (on PC) to this day and they are not in short supply either.

[@Dude902]

Triggers for shoulder buttons are fine, but they should be digital, not analog. Ergonomics of triggers, actuation mechanism of buttons.

[@RushG]

@@Dude902 agreed, where I've been able to reduce the actuation this can work well. My preference is still rather a button press over a trigger for a dedicated fightpad but for beat of both worlds this also works. One of the challenges for fightpads is that they can be seen as useless outside of fighting games. So having a pad that ticks more boxes makes a lot more sense. #HoriOctaPro 👁️‍🗨️👁️‍🗨️

[@feifonglong4321]

The new hori octa coming out soon looks like its gonna tick all the boxes. There's a video of sakonoko testing it in TGS on his channel

[@ninjay345]

The Hori Octa is almost my dream fightpad, i use the stick so i dont have to deal with the trash dpad. I wish it were heavier and wish the grips were shaped a little better, but the face buttons are peak and the gate on the stick makes it great for knowing what position the stick is at or has passed. I rest it on my leg and use three fingers on the six buttons like a fight stick.

[@flyingcheesecake3725]

Love the stick on hori octa, sadly i prefer standard hold. there is victrix bfg that has octagonal plate for the stick and can use standard face buttons on the right side, but it's almost triple the price of hori octa :D. also from where i live, the custom fee alone is almost 40% (not even including the international shipping fee). so yea sadge. i hope hori release something with the same stick of hori octa and use standard face buttons.

[@GuntanksInSpace]

Putting L3 and R3 in as paddles is pretty great ngl. My ideal 6-button pad so far is still the damn previous generation Hori Fighting Commander. It was more or less perfect.

[@Ish0tJR]

I’ve been using a Sega Saturn controller to play all my fighting games since 2004, it’s always been the best controller for fighting games IMO.

[@NemessiS082]

For me, the dpads that are made of a single piece seem worse than if the directions were separated from each other (DualShock4 style). In reality, the dpad of the DS4 is a single piece but there is separation between the directions and it makes pressing them more precise (at least for me).

[@RushG]

@@NemessiS082 interesting, for me I prefer the singular piece dpad. It's where there's not enough resistance or too much where I have issues with my inputs. The PS1 controller though I remember being really good for fighters, dpad felt great

[@brond.8009]

I agree that the button layout for these fightpads really should be the facebuttons and the L3 R3 buttons this point is good. I contest putting weights in the pad I feel the rumble motors add enough weight also i really like the rumble feel in my hands. Another point i agree on is the circular d pad, while i love the cross shaped (+) d-pad, the circular ones on the saturn/series x make hittin the electric more consistent. i really like the 8bitdo d-pads but they dont really last that long in my hands, the d-pad lasts about 3 months and the membranes about 8 months. i dont know if it counts but the flydigi vader 3 and vader 4 has 6 face buttons and although the d-pad placement was a little awckward at first i adjusted to it and it feels great for KBD, wavedash, dragonpunches, mvc2 shenanigans and tekken electrics. i recommend the vader 3 and 4.

[@598gh]

My favorite pad is the G7 SE, the controller has the best cross shaped pad I used with 1000 Hz polling rate. Yes it's not a fightpad and it's Xbox styled, but I really love the feel of the buttons and I'm comfortable with that design. The other Gamesir controllers are good, however because most of them used micro switches instead of rubber membranes, I find them a bit less accurate for my liking.

[@IamMarkSmith]

My favorites for the most recent generation of consoles and PC are the Hori Fighting Commander like you showed off that I have for Xbox, PlayStation, and Switch, the 8Bitdo M30 (they need to make these work on other consoles besides the Switch), the Razer Raion (excellent microswitch enabled d-pad), and the Retro-Bit Sega Saturn controller ,(they need to update this to work on newer consoles).

[@BrassMountainLion]

The PowerA Fusion Fightpad and thr Retro-bit Saturn Pro are my favorties, though neither is perfect. I vastly prefer shoulder buttons at a shallow angle for use as primary attack buttons and avoiding palm-filling handles since they make for sweaty hands. Fightpads without thumbsticks should have buttons in easy reach of the left thumb for switching the Dpad input to LS or RS more conveniently.

[@KarmaDama]

Agreed on all counts. The pad market has so few offerings and all of them seem massively flawed one way or the other. My 8bitdo m30 is great but is way too small and the shoulder buttons are slim and close to each other. The Saturn style buttons are pretty neat though, big concave lower ones for the knuckle and smaller convex upper ones for the fingertip.

[@RushG]

@@KarmaDama it's very hard for a manufacturer to make everyone happy but some of these pads and their designs, they really drop the ball in 1 major area. Hori are bringing out an updated version of the Octa that has an interchangeable dpads which sounds very interesting

[@sahabatgamerID]

Problem with M30 is that it missed input for down when you try to do hcf or qcf or dp

[@Nachtmahr616]

You're the first one who doesn't complain about the concave design and how and why the buttons have been placed and sized how they are. Wish they added mechanical buttons though. Makes presses faster and sliding easier and less tiring

[@sheikhu1039]

The best I've used is still the Razer Raion Rev2, veeery comfortable, very responsive, the dpad is great and the face buttons feel so good, and it works on all platforms without the need for adapter. I reaaly wish it had back buttons tho, would've been perfect

[@burntsiennaleigh]

Personally I just use a straight up Sega Saturn controller (the PS2 one to be precise) through an adapter. The only thing I'd really like is an extra 2 shoulder buttons but it's not the end of the world. Best d-pad around, replacement parts are cheap and plentiful and maintenance is easy, and the thing is built like a tank. Modern pads just all fall short in one aspect or another, and reliability is one of the biggest pitfalls that all of them, even the "premium" ones seem to fall into.

[@ej86]

Sega Saturn (JP) is the best fight pad imo. Retro-bit has done an amazing job reproducing with new tech like Bluetooth/2.4ghz and rumble...

[@tegrity]

My blueprint has arcade style, 8 buttons on the back of the controller. With your right hand thumb sticks in the same position and the dpad in the same position with battlebeaver dpad so you move with your thumbs and all your action buttons are with your 4 fingers on your right hand

[@Zilla5k5]

Gaming Mice have removable weights, you could do that here. You could put them inside the back, behind the faces so you can adjust how it feels in your hand depending on your preferences.

[@damonalbarnbusukabis]

What is your favorite gamepad among existing fightpad? Because your perfect gamepad doesn't exist yet.

[@RushG]

It would be the ones I showed at the beginning of the video for each respective game. Betop for SF6 and the Sanwa Direct for T8

[@OneStepLayered]

Feel like all your asks are so reasonable, mad that it hasn't been done properly in this day and age. Might be time to get the kickstarter going! 👀 On another note, have you tried any dome switch dpad controllers?

[@RushG]

Ive thought about designing my own but honestly have no idea how to go about putting into development. I've been speaking with somebody who has created their own via 3D printing. May lead to something but time will tell. This "dome" pad, let me Google it. I feel a like I'm being trolled 😭

[@OneStepLayered]

@@RushG I know it's not just you having an issue sourcing just the right pad atm, there's a gap in the market 👀 And not at all! Give it a Google, I have a couple of devices (not controllers) with them and they feel great, surprised they've not been implemented in any current pads, but that might be for a reason.

[@RushG]

@@OneStepLayered there's a few people that have reached out regarding PCB and 3D printing, will see what can potentially come if it. The dome pad, it's not a controller but it's what sits underneath the dpad itself?

[@ravantgarde1899]

Switching to lever less was great for me personally. Definitely awkward for a week or two but then it became natural😊

[@silkydude]

When is the updated hori octa dropping?

[@Nachtmahr616]

Should be somewhere around 2nd quarter/mid 2025

[@zipsnap]

Any thoughts on trying out Banana Faction's FightWedge?

[@RushG]

It's on the way, expect a video soon 👌

[@amr-OH]

have you checked out the turtle beach stealth pivot pro? it can swap to a 6 button layout and toy can map the extra two buttons to whatever, including L3 and R3 so you can use all the buttons. only thing is I wish it didn't use the convex xbox style buttons

[@JJose13]

I use arcade stick to play 2D FGs, but I think Sega Genesis (Mega Drive) pad 6 buttons controller got it right. The revision of Sega Saturn just made it perfect with two shoulder buttons. I also like SF X Tekken fightpad, very similar with previous mentioned.

[@deadz3n830]

I bought 2 BFG controllers and both broke in the same way after few months (one of the face buttons literally came off while I was playing normally). As if that wasn't enough, I was only refunded one even though it was clearly poor manufacturing in both cases. Now I'm in a bit of a crisis, I hear a lot of conflicting opinions (especially regarding d-pads). I know how to play with the arcade stick but in certain games like SF6 I really prefer the controller.

[@RushG]

@@deadz3n830 man thats awful, for the amount of money you're paying I'd expect them to be long lasting. Maybe one of the downsides of modular pads or bad build quality in general

[@Nachtmahr616]

The Hori Octa is better than I thought, although the 6 button front confuses me more than it helps. I detransitioned from stick due to all arcade stores having been closed here, but the Hori came close to being comfortable compared to the likes of 8Bitdo M30 or Pro 2. What I don't understand is why my Octa model's analogue stick doesn't like SF shortcuts, like pressing a diagonal twice for DPs, while my other standard Xbox and Ps pads allow for shortcuts. I like to use the stick for instant divekicks, because the dpad is quite stiff. I'm looking forward to the 2025 Octa model and hope they'll add tactile or mechanical dpads and maybe a hall effect stick to keep them from deteriorating so fast. We don't have many options here in Germany, so I can't try the first one you've shown and have to stick to Hori, 8Bit, and Gamesir

[@RushG]

@@Nachtmahr616 the Octa felt great and on paper should function but the pad for me personally was awful when trying to do motion inputs The analogue stick also I found way to close to my thumb whilst navigating the dpad. Such a shame but like you said the new Octa, I have high hopes. A lot of the controllers I have purchased are from overseas. The Betop usually is shipped from China

[@TonyPolanco]

Thanks for making this video because this is something that's frustrated me for years and continues to be aggravating. One of the other problems is that big-name manufacturers don't make as many fightpads as they do fightsticks and leverless controllers. Because of that, fightpad options are very limited. Right now I swap between the Victrix Pro and Hori Fighting Commander but I wouldn't call either perfect as each has different strengths and weaknesses. Would love an actual legitimately great fightpad. The Japanese Sega Saturn controller is still the god-tier controller. Tried a bunch of knock off controllers but none have the same feel.

[@mrlyles2002able]

Preach Brother Preach!!!

[@outlawdg]

I feel like I've gone insane during the course of sf6, I got a bunch of 6 button fightpads and nothing ticks all the boxes that should really be the minimum, good feeling face buttons, responsive and NOT MUSHY d-pad, tactile shoulder buttons. The best I can put up with is the hori fighting commander octa and even then, shit dpad, possibly over sensitive face buttons, and the shoulder buttons feel a bit stubby. Here's hoping the pro version gets closer to the bare minimum.

[@remylebeau34]

Had the powerA fusion pad recently, it was a great controller but the dpad broke off after a few months, still it was only 20 quid I think and while it lasted it was perfect

[@RushG]

@remylebeau34 PowerA did a great job, it was a nice pad but yeah I experienced that build quality wasn't the best. Early on some people said the dpad snapped right off. Crazy

[@michaelguse2237]

The razer raion was the best controller I've used but can no longer be purchased 😢

[@standheaykic66]

I could say hori Fighting commander 4 is the best pad out there. It has plus ➕️ shape diagonal button and you can adjust the angle. Sadly, mine already has a loose rubber and no longer responsive. I tried Raizer Raicon, then switch to Hori octa (due to ps5 compatibility too) and honestly, not a big fan of that 8 diagonal shape dpad. I sometimes press the down-back button by accident and it ruined my combo in tekken. Ps4/ps5 dpad is still a better alternative. I get it why so many pro player using it, but for me, I still need a 6 button pad to play SF6. Kinda dissapointed why hori discontinued those plus shape dpad.

[@juanrios4030]

😂😂 That “d” floating in like in The Simpson: Bart’s nightmare

[@RushG]

I'm gonna have to find this reference!

[@BigGameOrenthalJames]

Have you seen the new turtle beach stealth pivot? It looks good. It just has the Xbox control shape opposed to the normal fight pad shape. Someone that plays fighting games reviewed it; said it was pretty good.

[@RushG]

@@BigGameOrenthalJames I've seen it but not tried it, looks really interesting but what I've often found is these types of pads are usually not so great for fighters. A dedicated fightpad "should" have some of the points mentioned in the video. I may also be biased because I prefer the 6 button layout.

[@Dang0thebepis]

I wonder how difficult it would be to mod a PS4 fighting commander with a Saturn dpad. I'm afraid I have defected to leverless

[@unkownomega]

Honestly you should try a project of making it crazier things have happened look at the leverless controller scene interesting stuff and on and off I have been thinking of getting a fight pad closest thing I considered was that genesis 6 button 8bitdo pad if you made the perfect pad I would be interested as long as it doesn't cost an arm and a leg lol.

[@freedomdst]

what about the 8bitdo M30?

[@motortheist6571]

i loved my octa after i updated it, once it broke and i got a new one the update wasnt available on the new models

[@RushG]

@@motortheist6571 was the new model not updated by default motor? I think we may have discussed this already but I can't remember now

[@motortheist6571]

@@RushG i bought a new ps5 one and it had the same issue as the original, i searched for a update for that one but i didnt exist, i force updated it to the old xbox firmware update and it broke the controller

[@RushG]

Ah that's it I remember now. They now have a "PC" version of the same Octa. I was considering trying it but I think I'll just wait for the Octa Pro in the new year

[@plggybank]

From what I heard about the new Hori outa it has a better analog stick the dpad is still the same nothing different besides the added analog/sorta like a ds analog stick on the right side of the controller. Edit: fixed spelling mistakes

[@RushG]

There's a whole new model coming out. Hori Octa Pro that has interchangeable d pads

[@CSword514]

Yo Rush, did you the see the Hori Octa Pro? It has an interchangeable d-pad. No release date for it though.

[@RushG]

I did and I'm really excited for it. I'll discuss this next week 👌

[@DocDarkAngelo]

*sip on my monster energy drink* yup still using my sega saturn controller.

[@soundsonline796]

You are pretty spot on in my opinion. Whats wrong with these manufacturers

[@Jippdaboss]

Hori PLEASE see this video and go back to the superior Fightpad style. Amazing video and you were 1000% on track why I never liked the BFG pad with the slanted 6 button layout. U got my Sub for this video bud!

[@RushG]

@@Jippdaboss appreciate you man, I don't know if you know this but there is a new Hori pad coming, looks up the Hori Octa Pro. I'll be discussing this pad next week 👊

[@outthefryinpan]

like you, ive been trying to find old controllers that could be hidden gems for fighting games. So far ive tried the Seaman 2 PS2 controller and the Saitek P2500. The seaman controller has amazing buttons, however, weird dpad, not the the best. The Saitek has an amazing Dpad and small buttons. So sadly yeah, a lot of controllers are just so close but just not there yet. Hopefully someone can make something happen with this video

[@ashnyc90]

The hori octa is made of paper and breaks so easily. The analogue shouldn't be on the pad either it gets in the way

[@RushG]

@@ashnyc90 didn't know build quality was bad but yeah that analogue stick I remember it was always knocking my thumb. Really annoying

[@mattfelgate5346]

Bro, you need to try an xbox elite core 2. Doesn't have 6 buttons on the face, but beyond that it's perfect

[@RushG]

If I could play on 4 button style pads I'd be in a good place as there is so much more choice. 6 button pads are my preference which really makes finding the right one more difficult

[@bananafaction9871]

Great video. Based on your blueprint my pad is probably 80 percent of the way there. It will probably never be perfect since some aspects of gamepads are just personal preference in which case I've made it first and foremost to my own liking.

[@RushG]

You're completely right, there is no true perfect pad but I do thing that some of the points raised are key when it comes to a good pad. My issue is always that they are either too small, button configuration is lacking or the pad sucks

[@bananafaction9871]

​@@RushG Yes definitely, you're spot on that all the buttons should be their own individual buttons (I hated the switch on the raion and betong as its function was deceptive/confusing). Also you're the first person that I've seen mention that your thumbs should rest as naturally as possible on the dpad and buttons (its a minor detail but its a nice touch to have) So many good points. unrelated but its departed international 😜

[@Abbelboxe]

@@bananafaction9871 there is always this one little thing on a lot of pads that messes up an otherwise good design. The worst offender here is the Victrix, which is really good, except for that one issue with the facebuttons moved inwards, so they can have some graphic saying "fightpad" in the area the buttons are supposed to be. But it is a decisive flaw. Trying to press Square or X on this pad requires to move your thumb so far to the left it starts to hurt.

[@bananafaction9871]

@@Abbelboxe such an easy fix too. so silly that they chose form over function. I dont own it but i wonder if you can flip it around so that fightpad reads upside down but all the buttons are then in the correct place.

[@RushG]

I've just realised who you are and re-reading your post makes a lot more sense now! Outside of the shape of your controller it sounds perfect, very excited to try it out. Maybe, just maybe you would be interested in making a larger version of the controller for fussy folk like me 😅

[@chaneljohn2991]

Love it 🔥🔥

[@Abbelboxe]

Now we send this to Razr, Sony and whoever makes pads an get this done. Cant be that hard. Also "d" 😂

[@RushG]

@@Abbelboxe going to rock up to their head offices with the video locked and loaded Monday morning, give them a piece of my min "d"

[@HorfSnorf]

I really feel for you pad guys. NO clue why you guys are so left behind compared to stick/hitbox when you're the most popular.

[@RushG]

It's a bold statement but I feel when these specialist fightpads are made they are not focusing on the key characteristics of a good controller. The R&D should include real player input / feedback

[@amir6099]

what about HORI Fighting Commander OCTA (PS4)? is this good?

[@RushG]

It was mentioned at the end of the video

[@Pnt_Ent_84]

Always beating me to the punch 🤜🏾 lol I was literally gearing up ideas for the same kinda video lol but jus comparing the hori 4 to the hori 5 really I feel like those are the best controller yet they have some small errors

[@RushG]

Do your thing man, it's always interesting to see other people's takes on these topics. I know I'd watch!

[@Pnt_Ent_84]

@@RushG thanks 🙏🏾 yeah 👍🏾 ima work on it soon

[@Infighter_]

Tech KZbinr RushG

[@RushG]

Life after SF6 😅

[@jaysboredman]

If i made something like this and possibly better how can I turn it into a business. I've had these ideas for years and watch others slowly execute it because they have the know how.

[@hamsterwolf]

Hori octa is soo close to being an amazing controller hori just screwed it on the button layout and software that doesn't let you remap all the buttons on the controller. Maybe they were trying to adhear to some sort of tournament rules or something but would have been noce if they just released a separate controller for that.

[@RushG]

I don't have my hori Octa anymore but I thought that the buttons were just normal L and R buttons on top and L3 and R3 as the additional front facing buttons?

[@hamsterwolf]

@RushG nope at least not for the Xbox version you have LT LB on the right and LSB RSB on the left. And software keeps you from rebinding all the buttons on the controller. The layout might be ok for fighting games I just wanted a controller that would be a good universal controller for retroarch. Something with a six button layout so I could toggle a profile and play Sega Genesis games. Then hit a button and swap to an N64 profile on the controller hit the button again and I have a 6 button fightpad for arcade games. All without messing with the standard x input layouts built into retroarch so I can still plug in a regular Xbox controller without having to remap everything. My use case is a bit different but I think fighting game players would also like to have a six face button pro controller that's fully hardware remapable with easy to use software and is capable of storing profiles in the controller.

[@realizewave1513]

Victrix stealth pro

[@wizzrod]

Hitbox

[@M_Knight99]

Maybe you should take matters into your own hands? I’ve certainly thought about it 🤔.

[@drinkingrobot2252]

I thought the m30 was the gamepad for Street Fighter but so many charge backs then forwards made me jump. Moving on to leverless

[@RushG]

M30 has it all but yes the dpad is quite sensitive and the pad itself is tiny. It's like trying to steer a car with a CD loool

[@843Chadwick]

I don't think it's Hori's fault it's more of Street Fighter's and etc. fault for not allowing people to map the buttons freely.

[@RushG]

Some pads actually don't allow you to do this because for example L1 and L2 will exist in two places (their usual place and the extra buttons on the front), stopping you from mapping the buttons individually. It's down to pad configuration

[@843Chadwick]

@RushG I get what you're saying. But on the Hori fighting commander the far buttons are usually mapped to RB/RT and the right shoulders are mapped to LB/LT then that leave L3/R3 on the left shoulder and there are a few ganes that won't let you map L3/R3.

[@KhamStronk]

Just give me a fucking Sega Genesis 6-Button controller with 4 shoulder buttons, a touchpad and L3 and R3 buttons. I fucking hate that my 8 Bit Do Saturn Controller feels so great to play with, but then I dont use it because I cant reset practice mode. I just switched to stick, even though I've played games on Pad for over 30 years, just because the new gen Controllers break all the time and the specialized market always does these controllers wrong.

[@RushG]

Hori Octa Pro is going to be our saviour in 2025. I feel it

[@zillipod6765]

Spittin fax sum one listen to him!!!!!

[@RenanRF77]

Watching your long and frustrating quest for the perfect pad is one of the big reasons I went leverless Just wait for some company to get all these points right and then have trash durability or something smh...

[@RushG]

@@RenanRF77 I feel I should have made the switch myself a long time ago but I'm also a firm believer that pad is easy on the hands and also allows for very quick reactions. May have been a foolish pursuit but I am hoping the new Hori Octa fixes all of these problems 🤞

[@mathasus]

This is a big reason why I haven't fully transitioned from Smash to traditional fighting games. The official Nintendo GameCube controller is a accessible, reliable and affordable controller for the game. I just wish there was an equivalent for traditional fighting games, as I don't really want to invest extra money for a leverless or stick controller.

[@silkydude]

Leverless controllers are like under 70$ now from haute42. The barrier to entry doesn't really exist. Also if you want to play on pad, analog is a real choice. There are plenty of high-level players that use analog on ps5 (example : broski) and Xbox (endingwalker) Don't let your method of input hold you back!

[@bigtone5230]

Victrix pro BGF best controller for SF6 I have ever used.

[@SMD_N_LMB]

Im all about the cross shape dpads. SNES was probably the best for fighting games.

[@sloane2035]

Why don’t u just make this controller, make a ton of money, and give me 1% for spurring you to do this?

[@mat_max]

Wish i had bought the fighting commander v4 when it was still around. The octa is lne of the worst downgrades i have seen in my life

[@funnyusername4774]

Bought a hori fighting commander and never looked back 🫡

[@RushG]

@@funnyusername4774 so hard to find now brand new, most are ridiculously priced even for second hand

[@MahmoudLutfi7794]

Rush im getting better but i suck at whiff punish

[@RushG]

Whiff punishing in SF6 is really tough. Does require practice. I'll look into a video guide 👌

[@MahmoudLutfi7794]

@RushG 😎😎😎