How To Make The Perfect Forza Horizon...

[@toastyeeter]

I think that all the Horizon games are special in their own way and each one of them has their highs and lows

[@phantom0590]

lows... after almost a year if you are playing on pc through microsoft store you can still experience bugs which will never be fixed until the next festival update, not to mention im rn in the club but I don't have the prefix of my club and I don't see an option to see how people in my club did on any type of pr stunt or rivals.

[@phantom0590]

Also I just havent met a lobby with 15+ players in a forza horizon 5, I rarely meet people in horizon arcades, which wasn't an issue in fh4, bc on average a single lobby had about 50-72 players with around 4-8 people playing horizon arcade, and I had fun playing with people and spending time together, in fh5 at this moment all im doing is signing in every month to get new cars and during the update.

[@jimym__]

forza horizon 5's high is graphics and lows are everything else

[@gtpanda318]

Forza horizon 4 is just low all around

[@logan_nosal458]

@@phantom0590 exactly! FH4 felt so much more alive with so much better lobbies that had people. I miss driving around with people and doing freeway drags with 10 other drivers

[@LeoDragoGR]

FH3 did so much for the franchise. It added wide body kits, a diverse map, you still a good progression in the game building the festival sites. And you can see how each level of the festival site impacts the world and the overall game. I think the devs should use that as a good blueprint to improve SOME elements of the series currently. FH5 does a lot of things well but I think some past elements would’ve been better to build off of than abandon completely. Like FH5 you build the festivals as well but there’s now weight to them nor is there any leveling up which each festival site. I want that back and expanded upon. Another thing is the characters. Forza NEEDS to bring back the characters from FH1 and FH3. The rivals in FH1 are so goated and I absolutely miss Keira and Warren from FH3. They were good characters and more importantly, their dialogue wasn’t so damn cringe.

[@AR12Gaming]

I've been wanting to make this video for a while...

[@jacobrev6567]

It’s such a long time already

[@will.is.so.epiccc]

I know!

[@Fear_r3al20]

you still cant penitrate

[@hdslytro387]

Nick did you forgot there is a game named crew 2

[@justinwilkes8491]

Nick do you have any new updates on the real se of the new forza motorsports

[@LeoDragoGR]

The thing that goes overlooked is the techniques and ideas Playground Games uses in DLCs that carry over to the main games. Horizon 2 had storm island which brought crazy cross country terrain. Horizon 3 blizzard mountain and hotwheels brought snow and pushed Forza to a new frontier outside its realistic setting. Horizon 4 fortune island brought high elevation in map design. Even Lego despite it being the worst expansion they’ve ever done, brought in brick challenges which 110% inspired the phenomenal accolade system in FH5. All these things they bring forward and apply to a higher level in the next mainline games and it’s honestly a brilliant tactic.

[@yeetifyrs_]

I sometimes wish the games didn't get bigger, with a bigger car list and stuff, but instead made it better detailed, improve building hitboxes for example so you could drive in between them. This is also why I wish old games were completely rebuilt with today's technology. It'd also be cool because I played Forza Horizon 2 on Xbox 360 so I never got to see Storm Island or the dockyard next to Nice.

[@RidgeRunner4501]

FH2 on the Xbox 1 still holds up, I definitely recommend trying it out

[@Noreceipts400]

fh2 on 360 was so poorly done. Still played it a lot

[@alexjamerson5796]

​@@RidgeRunner4501 I hate that you can't play online though anymore on fh2.

[@yeetifyrs_]

@@RidgeRunner4501 never got that version cuz my dad didnt see the point in getting the "same" game he got for my 9th birthday, unless it's on the store then SHOUT AT ME 😭 that shit was of such sentimental value despite having only played the shit version, and keys skyrocketed in value on G2A late last year before i'd saved enough to get one

[@themarauder6108]

They've sacrificed quality for quantity. Over half of the cars are ports from Forza Motorsport 4, all they've done is upscale the textures. The game is boring because the world is lifeless, no city to explore and no more fixed lobby.

[@RayGonz787]

The perfect open world racing game would be a NFS level of customization with FH physics

[@rhythmnm5122]

Like an open world gran turismo

[@lolilll]

@@rhythmnm5122gran turismo customisation isn't as good as nfs and I'm not sure the physics would work in cross country

[@toastyeeter]

FH racing, car selection, graphics and physics plus NFS customisation and Gran Turismo campaign would be the best racing game ever released

[@rhythmnm5122]

Ngl Cross Country races suck

[@Ecb3rtius_OmVr]

I agree with GT level of storytelling.

[@jacobrev6567]

I really wish the forza devs not recycle car anymore I really want returning cars from older forza game or new cars never happen in Forza horizon before

[@horvathr95]

Uhhhm... So you dont want them to recycle cars, but you want returning cars from older games? How?

[@jacobrev6567]

@@horvathr95 because I want to see older forza cars that’s never happened in the new horizon series before put in a game

[@breenseaturtle]

@@horvathr95 I think he means a new car model for the older cars

[@jacobrev6567]

@@breenseaturtle yes that was trying to say it

[@Xero-rr2ol]

@@horvathr95 New car models. But also cars we havent seen since Forza 1 2 3 and 4

[@bodes_26]

The 4 things that I'd say to make a perfect forza horizon game IMO. The campaign of horizon 1. Map diversity of horizon 3. "Large" capacity free roam lobbies of 4 and 5. Having all the economy/regular cars from motorsport 4.

[@Flying__Scotsman]

and the rally experience/dirt roads from 4 aswell

[@Alcatraz760]

I think when these 5 games get old, Horizon 1 will be the only one I occasionally replay. It had an atmosphere, artstyle, a soul, and actual decent writing and story. It just felt like it wasn't made to attract a mass audience but carve out it's own identity.

[@victorpinheiro8395]

Amen

[@nissan3609]

The first one was definitely the best because of how memorable it was. Atmosphere outlasts things like graphics and new cars. Recently forza games haven’t had a memorable atmosphere or even characters. One thing I don’t see enough people talking about was how much the first Horizon benefited from a T esrb rating. Allowed for so much more freedom with the depiction of things like people, music, etc. White Light did a really good breakdown of what’s wrong with the direction forza is going

[@salz_]

Amen

[@simeonyves5940]

Please be aware that Microsoft has, as of 2019, *Mandated* a PEGI 3 Rating (ESRB E) on All Future Forza Titles as a Corporate Policy. They cannot make another T Rated Forza Game. The Big Problems with FH right now are Bad Writing (which can affect an ESRB M/PEGI 18 ("My face is tired") every bit as much as it can affect an ESRB E! ) Childish Presentation (which can Affect a T/PEGI 12 every bit as much as an E, heck, the most Childish Game out there, Fortnite, the Game Forza is Copying, is a T/12, and Is, IMO, Grossly *Below* the M/18 Rating it should Carry as a Violent Shooting Game, as I am of the View that Shooting Games should carry a mandatory M/18 Rating!) and too much Focus on attempting to make it Fortnite with Cars (all the Live Services Guff, and the gimmicky Cosmetics and Emotes Rubbish! and that utterly Unnecessary, and IMO, Rather Repugnant, Battle Royale Mode) rather than on making a Solid, Functional, Open World Racing Game. Those issues would Still be in place with a T, and in Fact the issue with Dialogue would only be Exacerbated by the Addition of Needless and Abominable Swearing to the Already Childish and Cringe Inducing Dialogue, there is more than just an Age Rating issue at work! Also, Music Choices, given there are Songs in the Game that, IMO, have *No Place* being Present below an ESRB AO, even when censored, that is also Far from an Age Rating issue. About the only thing that is Affected is how Far You can go on Elements such as Violence and Swearing, neither of which is Needed in a Racing Game. A Really Good Writer can still Provide some very Good Characters at a 3, this is seen in GRiD Legends, which Gave us an Antagonist who is not only Positively *Unhinged* (Callum McGowan is *Intense* , You have to admit, He makes Nate come across as Genuinely Psychotic!) but also, so thoroughly Unpleasant that He makes *Darius Flynt* look like *Robert Glenn* by Comparison, and Yet maintains a 3 Rating (Just, it is *very* close to a 7 Rating as shown by its E-10 from the ESRB) However, that Requires something Playground has not got, a Professional Screenwriter! Good Writing from a Professional Screenwriter and Better Music Curation (Bring back Rob Da Bank (FH1 and 2), His Experience with the Family Friendly "Camp Bestival" Event would more than enable Him to choose music that would both Fit with the 3/E Rating without Censorship but would also be absolute *Fire* !) and a *reboot* away from this "Forzanite" Live Services/Battle Royale Direction (and into a TDU-1 Inspired "Lite RPG" Title) would sort a lot of the Problems out. PS. Watched the Review You Mentioned. I agreed with a Lot of the Hosts Point, but, blimey, the Swearing and Blasphemy made Me *Extremely* Uncomfortable and Scorched My Conscience somewhat. Such content is Not Necessary... and also shows another Problem, the Reason why Playground actually *cannot* listen to the Fanbase... because the way they act, the way they think, the things they want, would not only completely *Fail* to meet that Mandatory PEGI 3 Rating that is now Microsoft Corporate Policy for Forza as a Franchise, but would also *Decimate* the Car List as the Vast Majority of Car Companies would Remove their Licenses to avoid Immense, possibly even Sales Destroying, Corporate Image Damage.

[@racehork7314]

This. The first 2 Horizon games had a vibe that has stood the test of time against them, that I simply haven't seen/don't see happening with FH3 or FH4. Have a think about the first ~30ish minutes of gameplay from FH1 and FH2, they are so massively outpouring with atmosphere and real festival vibes, the devs created a tangible suspense in the openings for those games that made them truly special. They had things from real life, not just rendered game engine cinematics, like the opening cinematics of FH1 where it genuinely feels like a real festival about cars with all the shots of the cars, the music. FH2 did something similar but expanded in its own way, with that girl counting down from 10 for each thing and then the way that intro flowed into the in-game opening scene where everyone drives off the boat and you have actual, real tangible characters talking to you in a cutscene in the beautiful European sunshine. The characters actually had cutscenes where they talked to you, WRISTBANDS were still a thing and had some meaning that just added that little bit more to the festival atmosphere, car sounds were banging, we had characters like Alice Hart and Ben, the cutscenes (especially opening ones) had such a visceral festivalgoer vibe and atmosphere to them with the use of lights, the music. Even after completing the main drive to the festival you were met with just pure festival atmosphere, vibes in an intro cinematic that could pump anyone up. These games will stand the test of time with the best actual gameplay feelings as a game, the maps (though debatable I will be biased and say they are my favourites), car list, the roads etc. I could go on. The later games simply do not have this. Forza Horizon 3 was fun to play with friends for sure, but aside from driving the Centenario to the festival at the start of the game there was next to nothing in the way of interactions with characters besides some lackluster 5 second cutscene when upgrading the festivals - this is where it started losing some of that magic that the first 2 games in the series had. Then FH4 more or less completely fell on its face in that regard, I refer to it as the "fortnite" of Forza Horizon games, where we had a ridiculous focus on clothing, rather boring map (as someone who lives in the UK the roads in-game aren't even accurate enough to actually give a sense of fun - far too wide), it was just a festival in name and the rest of the game did nothing to particularly push the narrative of a festival besides some voice lines at the start/end of some races. It felt incredibly artificial. Then came FH5 which... brought us cringe dialogue, papa fernando, a more interesting map (than FH4 at least), and at least a slightly better focus on the festival aspect, especially with the opening cinematic being more festival-driven than the last. However this feels artificial, and while it is better than FH4, it was a low bar to clear. That being said I am a fan of all the Horizon games, but we cannot go on pretending like the newer games haven't lost that magical atmosphere that there once was in the Horizon series. Didn't mean to turn this into an essay, oops

[@victorpinheiro8395]

YES!

[@fryingnemo552]

1. Bring in more everyday cars "Camry" 2. Tighter roads there isn't a single road in all of forza's you can't get 2 cars side by side down 3. More customization gtav is kinda beating a pure car game in customization 4. Different things othere then cars trucks is my #1 I was in love with the Ford dually

[@NXT_LVL]

I came on board at FH3 and I loved it. FH4, I liked it but I saw the rinse and repeat with some minor treats thrown in to make you ignore it. FH5 was back to me loving it, "newer" cars and a location based off of what we're more for. UK map didn't quite have the same feel as the Australia or Mexico vibe. Though I spent more than 600 hours playing TDU2, because the areas kept me wanting to explore/drive around.

[@umutersoy.]

Mexico vibe? Its literally an empty map

[@toastyeeter]

I feel like me and you are part of the rare group of people who seem to actually like Forza Horizon 5

[@jaedy7456]

@@toastyeeter nah,i like it But i dont love it thats the diff, i fk love fh3 the sun everything,imo

[@i_am_blaziken1918]

Love that Nick used amazing NHL goalies to get his point across in a racing game

[@LeoDragoGR]

I think every long time Forza fan can 110% agree with this video. Except for maybe people saying FH2 is better than FH3. Cause back then and even now, objectively speaking, it’s not. Playing both games recently from celebrating the anniversary, FH2 has a lot of lighting issues and a lack of personality that makes it standout. It still has arguably the best car sounds in a Horizon game but that’s all that it has goes for it over other entries. That being said Forza can easily become THE ultimate racer if they just fill in these small holes. Customization, tuning, new game modes for online and NEW or returning cars from older games in the festival playlist would push it THAT much further

[@busheebruv8967]

Forza Horizon 3 had the best system of grinding, where you had to do events and racing in order to gain fans. You then use the fans to get new festivals.

[@snfriedm]

2:44 never thought I’d see the day where I see hockey analytics in a car video. My 2 hobbies overlapping.

[@bananacheese6864]

i think for the grinding aspect adding an option to play as a normal racer or a superstar where the starter cars are either really good like in fh3 or fh5 or just okay like in fh4, i think that could be the way to do it

[@blackviper9392]

This 100%, Grassroots, normal, professional racer, and then superstar like fh5 where you just get handed things left and right

[@MFMHarro105]

I wish we could paint the front and the rear rims different colours, it would take painting liveries to a whole new level.

[@starshockraiko7402]

Also have different rims for the front and back as well. Makes them stand out even more.

[@slightlyserioussam5136]

Definitely all nostalgia, but also I really like the FH3 intro on FH5, especially since I think lots of FH5's map is inspired by FH3's map, so the scenes look so accurate.

[@aminbajrektarevicab]

When I look back at some games like the NFS U2, this is something that did progression right. You start with just a few cars available, and you don’t know what’s coming until you unlock it, so it’s always a surprise. The same story goes for the map, with each stage you unlock a new part that’s distinctly different than the last one. You earn credits in a natural way to not have to grind, but still don’t have everything given to you. Even with a crap storyline, it still gave you motivation to progress. This is something I haven’t seen done well in a loooong time. To me FH5 feels like a tech demo and not really a game.

[@HG504X]

I want the car recycling to stop, a much larger map and for there to be a memorable storyline and progression like the first game.

[@just_justin_11]

The main thing I want for online is the ability to vote for what you want to do. I played FH3 online so much and the voting was such a great thing to have. It's so simple to implement and so amazing

[@issouhil3025]

True if fh3 online got ranked though like fh4 it would've been the best online

[@saamuellutter]

My main locations to be in are the parking lots by the stadium, pretty much the only place that is somewhat modern

[@Amx1790.]

And the bridge

[@paulpalermo9006]

A thing we can all probably agree on is how modern and nice it was to drive down Surfers Paradise. I think that’s what we kinda need. A glimpse into modern while nostalgia but not just a copy and paste (not just the event lab, I mean like it would me amazing to see this is an expansion)

[@DiegoRamos-rz1ks]

It’s true. I would love to see everything you said when making Horizon 6. They can just polish up what was featured, tune it, and get more license agreements for customization and cars featured. And let’s not forget that the Motorsport reboot has a new in-game engine which the devs can have access.

[@Amyth22]

nick rage quitting in the background was so funny..lol

[@Shylo2017]

Agreed. 😂

[@michaeldebeer3780]

Wish Forza would make a great story line like horizons one where you had amazing cutscenes and you had to race races to challenge the bosses and that their would be a background stories for all the character you in counter and finally a big boss like daruis flint that would be a amazing Forza game again

[@danielcasalotta7700]

My perfect Forza horizon game would be a massive MMO, traveling around the whole world and doing races and stunts. Huge car list with a massive customization list. Showcase events that are ACTUALLY CREATIVE. An incredible rivals system where everyone can compete without cheaters getting in the way, an incredible story, and to top it all off, Rollback Net-code.

[@MrWaffel]

I mean, FH5 has done an amazing job with the customization process already. Who remembers how most of us collectively lost our minds when it was revealed we would be able to rev up our engine in the garage? And how upgrading parts would change the sounds? (NFS Heat kinda-sorta did it, but in a very... NFS, arcade-y kinda way). - But yes, I would love to see even the little customizable options like GT7. Being able to change the generic wing would go a LONG way. Forza Aero is the bane of my (FH tuner) existence. - Regarding the map: I personally appreciate the upgrades they made for FH5, but in my mind, FH4 had the best map. Yes it was missing features we all wanted (like an actual drag strip to test our top speed, although the closest thing we got having tunnels to enjoy the sound almost made up for it), but the way that roads were arranged felt really good. You had a wide variety of different curvatures, elevation changes etc, and you could really make it shine with custom tracks. Those are my immediate thoughts, I may come back later when my brain has started functioning properly again xD

[@lemonboy3197]

using hockey heatmaps to explain his point is the most canadian thing ever and I love it

[@minnethreat]

This was honestly one of the better videos you've done. I think I'd be neat if for a series of videos you picked a car, and did a few races with it.. like.. bone stock S14, then tuned it for road racing, then tuned it for dirt/rally then snow etc. Maybe set a challenge "win X amount of money with said car while spending less than x amount"

[@TwinJag374]

The grinding but is so true! I completed the game in 15 hours and I don't have much to do anymore. I don't feel like doing races anymore but I still play the game because I enjoy it

[@johnnazar180]

Physics from FH3, map design quality and car list from FH5, and map size like The Crew. I would play the shit out of that.

[@gabrielsobrosa]

In my opinion, it's not nostalgia that makes older games better, but the sense of how new the game feel fresh. When FH was released there was nothing compared in the Racing Game genre. Today, every forza looks the same with small changes. But I add to that, the feeling of atmosphere in the first few games

[@traceinnet5558]

Love the heat map of Rinne vs Price. Gonna miss seeing them both

[@LeoDragoGR]

One thing I think Forza NEEDS to bring back is the unique characters from FH1 and FH3. The rivals in FH1 are so goated and added so much weight to each championship. And I absolutely miss Keira and Warren from FH3. They were good characters and more importantly, their dialogue wasn’t so damn cringe unlike the FH4 and FH5 characters smh. Except Rami. I think Rami is great in FH5

[@euanservant7862]

I think the devs should add a feature where you can get out of your car and customise your players houses with items that you unlock from wheelspins or challenges.

[@falcongamer58]

The solution: Make FH1 again and improve it with every single feature the later games added

[@armokil]

I think that the series has definitely gotten more technically advanced, with increased graphics, gameplay features and an extended carlist, but these have come at the cost of life, map density and creativity both locationwise and road layout wise. There are maybe 3 or 4 roads in fh5 that when given no surroundings (for example, place all the roads in the sky with no surrounding terrain) and you will see that only 3 or 4 of them are actually unique. When it comes to density, i mean the density of locations and terrain. Think of fh5 and how it is very clearly build for the eliminator- almost all of the center of the map can be traversed without hitting cliffs, extremely thick pockets of forest/jungle, or a drop. Imagine if the mountain road was steeper and sharper, meaning you couldnt just drive up it as there would be cliff drops etc (think fh3 beach but on a smaller scale) As for the density of locations- we have four main town-like features in fh5. Guanajuato, the small town to the south of the main festival, the oceanside village (playa azul) and the baja curcuit. Compared to how large the map is, there should be way more urban areas, and all of them should be much more packed together (I’m not including the stadium because in reality its placement on the map makes no sense- they just chucked a random modern stadium in the middle of nowhere)

[@warriorpf4120]

Love how he rage quits multiple times but puts it in the video anyway

[@ronaldooeee]

One thing I would really want them to focus on is stop trying to one up the map size of the previous games. I feel like after FH3, the predecessors just tried too much to try and make their maps bigger, rather than a memorable map. It just doesn't seem like FH5's map has anything too...interesting. It's pretty much dirt, sand, small city with colorful buildings & it genuinely feels like the only "hot spot" that FH5 has is the volcano w/ everyone drift it (Similar to Fortune Island's mountain). I wouldn't mind for the devs to dial back on the gigantic map size if it meant they spent more time focusing on making it fun. Give me beautiful scenery to drive by like Byron Bay or Red Rock. Give me more areas to chill with friends like Surfer's Paradise or the docks or airstrip from FH2. ALSO WHERE IS MY GOLF COURSE AREA AND MY GAS STATION.

[@EFamilyUpdate]

Automatic cars should shift automatically like they do irl and manual cars should be faster

[@Shylo2017]

Absolutely.

[@marcin2638]

the fh2 highway was also best (in its environment)

[@patricksteez5222]

But hear me out, I really want the next horizon game to have an option to put different wheels on the front and back, I think it would be awesome and look good on drift tuned cars.

[@armokil]

1:47 Very mature of you to write such an intricate description of your favourite genetalia.

[@NO-2019]

My biggest complaints about FH5 are: More customization, more map features (parking area, gas stations, highway tunnels..etc) and online racing should have car categories

[@succulenttrash3343]

9:02 Hey Nick Pro tip "Soo-roo" That's it 😭😭

[@sargesagara]

When it comes to the cars itself, I somehow feel that Forza could do something a bit different. Every car sold in the Buy/sell section are all base models. But when you upgrade your base model cars, at the side, there would be a preset on which trim version of said car you want, then buy the needed upgrades, mechanically, and visually, or upgrade further from there. Or just go wild upgrading yourself from the base model. That way, if there's a new trim released later on for that car, the devs can just add on the upgrades to that new trim, both specs and looks.

[@kerrinmarr9204]

One of my biggest hates for customisation in all Forza games is the exhaust tips. You build a 1000bhp with a nice bodykit and it has a tiny stock back box! It just looks ridiculous.

[@thr33d50]

I kinda wish that the next forza horizon has every car ever from previous games. An example of this is Lancia. In fh5, I was immediately turned off of the game because I couldn’t use the 037, which is one of the most iconic group b cars of all time. In fh4, it was one of the starter cars.

[@simeonyves5940]

FIAT Group SPA (which includes Abarth, Alfa Romeo, and Lancia as well as FIAT) removed their License shortly before the Game launched over an Unannounced Grievance. That one is not Playgrounds Fault, surprisingly. Basically, it is up to Microsoft to get FIAT back to the Negotiating Table, find out what the Grievance is, get Playground to Remove Said Grievance if at all Possible, and then Microsoft can Recover the License. Until that Happens however, Playground cannot *legally* add Lancia back into the Game as they do not have Licensing Permission.

[@Onegramsledgehammer]

I want g35/37 in forza, i neeeed to be able to select different rims for front and rear. Im sure others can agree about that 2nd bit

[@anthonydevito4450]

Honestly, FH3 was by far my favorite(even though I think FH4 had marginally better physics). I think that being the boss and building up the Australia festival gave the right mix of grinding(getting followers to build up and unlock more events) with sandbox freedom. To me,the perfect Forza game would be the progression system of 3 with more story cutscenes and character like 1 and 2 with the forzathon structure of 4+5(without recycled cars)and the car list of 4+a few new cars, and a few ones from 1,2,3 that didn’t make it to 4, with customization based somewhat on NFS(doesn’t need to be as crazy) All of this in a unique, varied map like Australia or Mexico,and boom. My perfect Forza game

[@miepvogel]

nfs customisation + forza map and car variety would be such a huge success

[@Xtooill]

Nice video 👍🏼

[@wrecker9681]

I agree on everything in the video and I know this was kind of a serious bit but every time he rage quit in the background it made me laugh

[@kingvflipz1720]

I wish they would add stuff for the off-road community, like trucks and more mudding spots and off-road trails.

[@unnamedracer9757]

I’m still highly disappointed by the massive lack of any trucks before the 80s and 90s, I want 60s F150s and such The only truck older than I think the Syclone that we currently have is the really old F 100, but what about is 67 Chevy C 10, especially if we could change the overall size of the tire and not just the width. Not only that, but being able to have a wider range of suspension modifications, and why do we not have drift suspension for the Mercedes X class anymore? That was one of my favorite joke drift cars FH4 and now it’s just another truck The biggest lack is anything related to truck culture, we can’t even really squat trucks like an idiot because were limited to just rally suspension, which does not get it low enough when you turn it down There are practically zero pick up trucks that we can actually drop on the ground, and the few we do have are already road trucks, such as the lightning and Syclone Sidenote, I would also love it if they just added every single car from the previous games, that way any new cars after that would be legitimately new cars, and we wouldn’t have to go back to old games to use a car that we like just because it isn’t in the new game. One of my suggestions is the 2015 mustang GT that was in FH2, because it just looks better than the 2018, and drives slightly different, had a little bit less power, but was also a more important mustang because it was the beginning of the new generation instead of the facelift. It’s just the cooler S550.

[@ademozsoy945]

I think playground games needs to actually to listen to the people. Too the cars we want & the bodykits. Look how much gran Turismo 7 has in it. Anti-lag system. Widebody kits for most of there cars. Taillights & headlights. Small turbos & big turbos options. Supercharger. Window decals. More options for the cars

[@carlosdossantos1251]

I think it’s time for forza to go to Japan and bring in an outlaw storyline with cop chases considering Japan has a decent amount of illegal racing and races like touge. The forza players from forza horizon 1 were kids but now they are teenagers or even adults and it’s time to scrap this friendly racing game to go to a more realist view on street racing

[@simeonyves5940]

That is Never going to Happen. Microsoft has, as of 2019, *Mandated* a PEGI 3 age Rating on all Future Forza Titles, what You are After would be a 12 or more likely a 16, this does not Comply with Microsoft Corporate Policy (Meaning You would likely be "Re-assigned" for Suggesting something like that if You worked for them, that is how Business Works I am afraid) , and would not be Greenlit. Forza also has Licenses with Several Car Companies, including Renault (who were name dropped by Ivory Tower) who now have *Strict* "No Police Chases" Regulations in their Licensing Contracts. If they added Police (Note, Police Chases were going to be in FH1, but were Removed because the Whole Team felt that they ruined the Game) , it would *decimate* the Car List as those Companies would Remove their Licenses! Probably Permanently as the Game Developer would be seen as a "Contract Breaker" and *Blacklisted* ! Please go and Play Need for Speed, as that is not under those Restrictions and can Provide what You want. Japan is also Never likely to happen as the Japanese Government is very Open in its *Hostility* to Western Development Studios. They do not want Western Developers setting their Games in Japan, this will not be Helped by the Fact the Horizon Festival breaks Several *Major* Japanese Cultural Taboos, even in its current "Friendly and Wholesome" Form, and would be *Extremely* Offensive to the Japanese on a Cultural Basis as a Result. There is also the Fact more and more Car Companies are now Genuinely Reluctant to be in Games at all as they are worried that Games are Damaging their Corporate Images, their Cheif Concerns? Illegal Street Racing and Car Customization, which, in the Eyes of their Predominant Market Bases, especially in the US, conservative 50+ Middle Class, are associated with Gangs. As a Result, more and more Car Companies, including some Japanese Ones, are now *Refusing to License* to Games that contain Overtly illegal Street Racing (why do you think street scene is now an official part of the Festival? it's to stop the Car Companies from removing their Licenses!) and/or Extreme Levels of Car Customisation due to those Corporate Image Damage Concerns, Meaning that Japanese Car Culture *cannot* be Replicated, and Japan, without its Car Culture, is like Mexico, in that it has *nothing* going for it as a Horizon Location. What You want, due to Age Rating, Licensing, and issues with Japan itself, just cannot be Done.

[@revthesuper536]

Never did I think Nick would be taking about hockey ina forza vid😭😂 but can’t complain when my 2 fav things in the world collide no problem with that lol

[@ShadowIsLight]

it would be nice if the players could come out their vehicles to show off their clothing and stuff, it would make for exiting game modes, also immersive car meet gathering with friends . cuz whats the point of having a character that you can barely interact with and not view outside in the open world

[@RidgeRunner4501]

Car meets and in house garages would be perfect for that. In house garages should be customizable and you should be able to choose what cars go where and there should be 1 like 10-12 car garage per house. Purely for display.

[@bgirl47]

So you mean a test drive unlimited but multiplayer lol

[@ShadowIsLight]

@@bgirl47 pretty much , i mean it would make forza alot more enjoyable to play and come up with interesting game modes

[@blingeh335]

go play gta then

[@ShadowIsLight]

@@blingeh335 🤨

[@MNDO]

For grinding they could do daily/weekly/monthly missions where you have to do lets say get a total of 1,000,000 drift points in a A class car and that gives you exp and credits and then there could be a multiplayer mission thing to get more people to go in convoy groups

[@sidneyhighfield2243]

I have FH3 to FH5, my son likes 3 because we can actually convoy in the open world. FH5 stopped working with our G920 cockpit setups after an update last week, so that one is out until they get it fixed (if). I don't drive with a controller. To be fair they are all mostly the same game. There seem to be no notable new cars, paints, wheels or anything. For instance there is a 2013 BRZ and a 2013 Toyota which are essentially the same car with no new versions. They change game modes and details a little with the same underlying structure. It seems like wallpapering the old games.

[@_Devil]

If I'm being honest, I think making FH6 a combination of 3 and 4 would be the best Horizon game ever, let me explain: FH3 was seriously peak Forza Horizon, and I don't mean that just out of Nostalgia. It had the best soundtrack, and second best car list, and the best map in all of Horizon. FH4 was JUST under it, and that's because it introduced a lot of cool features and mechanics that I liked a lot (more destructible trees and guardrails, *SNOW,* a bunch of niche cars like the Peel and Caddy Limo, etc.) If we can have a Horizon game that has the map, feel, and soundtrack of FH3, but with the car list, interactable environment, and replayability of FH4, I do personally think we will have the best Horizon game ever. I do think that Horizon 5 is great, this comment isn't to shit on it, but I don't think its as great as FH3 and 4. Its a solid 3rd Place, and for a game that had a larger budget, more people working on it, and a longer development time, that's bad in the grand scheme of things. If you guys have any other points you want me to bring up, just leave it in the replies and I will edit my comment to make a point of it!

[@aaronhousel57]

I think to add on to it, we should get some new and/or improved features, like more in-depth customization. Like in NFS where you can make your car look exactly how you want it to look, but to also be able to combine that with Forza tuning and engine upgrades that are more realistic than NFS.

[@thatguy6557]

The perfect Forza Horizon has less barren areas, a tighter focus on detail with gas stations and such. Also not making me hit the bumper right two times to get to the car swap button (Do devs actually play video games)

[@R.I.P_Hunterx]

love the gameplay

[@cjskater2006]

Clubs should be able to host "servers" with curated event lab tracks, like trackmania. That way the community can sift through and find the good tracks, clubs are promoted, and communities are strengthened. You could have drift clubs focusing on drifting event lab tracks, another club focused on motorsport recreations of tracks, another club that likes hide and seek, etc.

[@F0xyy000]

Hi AR12 love the vids my fellow Canadian

[@lucaswhitelaw2559]

I didnt know Nick was a Preds fan!

[@nekotranslates]

EA makes the map for the game, Team10 makes the car physics for the game. Makes best Forza Horizon ever, I think.

[@username_chili]

If you split the world into 3 columns!! Left, Middle, Right. North and South America are in the left! Europe and Africa are in the middle! Asia and Oceania are in the right! FH1 was in the left (America)! FH2 was in the middle (Europe)! FH3 was in the right (Australia)! FH4 was in the middle (UK)! And FINALLY FH5 is in the left (Mexico)! They go in a pattern, back and forth from left to right!! Meaning FH6 will be in the middle again and FH7 will be in the right (hopefully Japan)! Hope you learnt something and I can't wait for the future of Horizon!!

[@mistergoat8931]

The best part of this video was watching nick fail in the backround

[@Shylo2017]

Agreed. 😂

[@TaffPlays]

A few things they should have that would make the perfect Forza game in general: 1. Proper progression. A big gripe I've had ever since playing FH2 and even FM6 to name a couple of examples are that you start off in a pretty unrealistic car comparing to say the VW Corrado VR6 in FH1, or hatchbacks in FM4. Why can't we have this back? It honestly made the game way more fun and it allowed players to grind out more to get to say their dream car, just like in real life. 2. More dynamic car list that fits the map. Like you said FH5 needs things like the TRX, or the new Raptors (Ranger, Bronco and obviously the 3rd gen F150), and I believe that's because this map I feel will suit more off road pickup trucks than supercars, because there are so many areas that you can take them and have fun with, like taking them up the volcano, make custom off road tracks, playing in the dunes, a lot of this stuff you can't do with the latest hypercar. 3. Better customization. I do agree that FH5's customization is better than the previous ones, including widebodies, adjusting track width and more, but there needs to be more. Window stickers? Lift kits for off road vehicles? Better tuning for forced induction like changing boost pressure to fine tune the amount of power you want? Even custom making wheel specs for aftermarket wheels would be pretty cool to see, like how deep you want the dish, or how much offset you want to perfect your stance more so than adding spacers, to make the cars even more 1 of 1, and it would make it easier to remake real life cars too. 4. More unique car sounds. I find that some cars from the same brand as another car sound almost identical (McLaren's for example), why can't they tweak the sound for each car to make them sound unique, like for turbo cars, changing the sound of the blow off valve, or changing the pitch of the exhaust note to give a few examples. I get that recording 500 different cars would be hard to do since a lot of them that are in the games wouldn't be easily accessible over in the UK (where PGG is based), but there's some ideas to make things a bit easier. 5. Being able to exit the vehicle. We had character customization in this game since FH4, why can't we show this off to our friends properly? The only way currently is for your friends to see your clothing is through the windshield of the car your driving, which in some cases are tinted, making it very difficult. It could also make a new perspective for the player, like spectating a multiplayer event for example. I feel that a lot of these points won't be able to happen until FH6 comes out in 2-3 years due to hardware limitation on the previous gen consoles since FH5 was released on the original Xbox One and that some of these will need a whole rewrite of code that's existed since the beginning of Forza, but some of these, like the progression system, could be easy done, as was shown on the Hot Wheels expansion in a way. And FH3 best car list imo, only because I'm an Aussie boi.

[@horvathr95]

Just saying there were widebodies in previous horizon games that are not included in FH5. Also the ability to adjust width track was in FH4 already. But I agree with you that customization should be expanded. 5. I dont think many people are interested in character customization tbh. In fact many are so fed up, that the only thing that we can expect from updates, are new clothing items. I got it, TDU had character customization, but that is a very different game.

[@omerozkan1870-b1t]

Ar12: Forza Horizon is really good in terms of customazation . Gta Online : you kidding me ?

[@oaguamolhada2274]

I agree!

[@KristofferEk]

something that might make the "grind" fun ehm do what motorsport did have manifacturer loyalty rewards.

[@antwon1414]

Idea: forza makes 2 career modes where one is difficult and ken isn’t, the pay is different and the game is different in different ways. Story mode kinda

[@charliemaybe]

What fh5 could need is to make the eventlab more accesable, and maybe more modding opprotunites for car customization like maybe having aero elements being able to be moddled and designed by players or body kits.

[@imarubronzen]

I want atv and dirt bike racing to be added to the next game. Imagine a showcase where you’re the one that’s not in a car!

[@dankwedd_yt8197]

Honestly best addition a forza game can get is official mod support. People could mod in there own cars and make there own tracks. The sky would be the limit. Then just have two launch options for the game. One would be modded but multiplayer would be disabled then for launch option 2, just the base game.

[@sammyhadar1749]

they need to look into making an online weekly race selection with BoP similar to gt7 and honestly for a racing game, there seems to be so much lacking in the actual “racing”department like split times, fastest lap shown during the race. those things in combination with weekly changing races that are longer than 3 laps each will keep people on the game longer

[@dwarvenaxolotl5348]

My whole thing is an actual story like the first game. The origin story line is close to what I’d like. Maybe a recap of the previous game. Maybe racing to the runway where you’d fly out to the new map.

[@gabrielsobrosa]

A gran turismo 7 customization in forza would be PERFECT because give generic options for all cars

[@lucaswhitelaw2559]

Imagine if in the horizon festival garage we could get out of cars, walk around with friends and emote

[@cr4xz_]

I personally enjoyed all of them escpecially the new ones and im really excited to see what they bring to forza horizon 6

[@NHNL.-]

NIck closing forza at the end was so perfect 😭

[@Beam-jo6sb]

i unironically did a pog face when Nick mentioned BeamNG. i have 6500 hours on Beam so i got really surprised lol

[@bettamgames8407]

Hey nick I've watched alot of your videos and I've seen u do alot of challenge based around real things. So what about u do a motorsports challenge do decide what the best gt1, gt3 and gt4 group cars from real life from British touring car or international events on forza horizon 5

[@danielkinard30]

i wish it would combine horizon and motorsport. And you could drive to the airport and "fly" to different tracks, which would basically just be Forza Motorsport Online. That way you cpuld combine the competitive part of forza and the open world aspects

[@dominickirkwood]

I love it nick and keep up the good work and I love the video lot real true 💯 👍

[@Olyoop527]

I love how Nick just rage quit FH5 at the end of the video🤣

[@lucaswhitelaw2559]

I didnt know Nick likes Montreal!

[@YDINO69]

Imagine if there was customization and the cars felt different

[@bt_the_yank6234]

Horizon one was the only one with an actual progression system and a story to go with it. Car list was small, and features are lacking compared to new games, but it has the core game values that actually make it a game and not a drive around and random pointless race simulator. And horizon one had servers which I actually prefer to the current online system

[@coreykibble9074]

I find it hilarious that nick was getting absolutely DECIMATED in the eliminator in the background lmao 💀💀

[@loneponderer495]

I would argue the Online play for Froza Horizon 5 is easily better than 4 if not of all of them. I hadn't played 2 and 3 so I can't say all for sure, but definitely than the others. Sure it might have had issues setting up stuff with specific friends, but if you didn't care about being in a specific group getting to play online was so many time easier than in past games. Outside of the weekly Playlist event thingy in Forza Horizon 4 you could only ever join as a team. So if you didn't have a bunch of friends who where willing to play together at the same time doing the same event you couldn't play online. In Forza Horizon 5 you can play anything on your own and you will be put in to a group. Consequently it's the first online game I regularly play online and don't feel left out on. As I prefer to not be tied to playing at specific pre planned times.

[@tolkien777]

I just wish there was a bit more 70s and 80s more "pedestrian" cars

[@umber51]

I personal don't play Fh games (Mainly because i only own the ps2) but i have watched enough videos to know the problem, the event-lab could have a feature to show what is new, or to have a follow system to see new maps by people that you has selected to see new maps by, and this is not that risky of a move either.

[@harryomac]

there is a follow system

[@calvin7273]

This game could be such a good game that you could play all day everyday if they would add customisable exhausts, tunning for sounds like nfs and better bodykits

[@bedlesssyth9786]

I agree😊😊