There are grooves in the inner wall of the discharge tube, which helps it spread out the grains a little. The smooth wall of the cartridge allows the grains to flow more freely, with less separation and control.
@jamesbrownmiller8083 жыл бұрын
When I started with reloading I used a balance beam scale and hand trickled( that was decades ago).
@JosephDAndrea01213 жыл бұрын
I did that till 6 months ago when I got my auto trickler
@craignmz52643 жыл бұрын
I think that’s how most do it. I loaded for 28 years before I bought the Chargemaster.
@garethprice42623 жыл бұрын
I would trickle onto the precision scales then it would be perfect 👌
@luckyshotammunitiongunsllc23693 жыл бұрын
I do it on my a&d ej-54d2
@rgthomson1004 жыл бұрын
I have always told people new to long range shooting they dont need anything better than the chargemaster, with this test it shows you will be no more out than 0.1 of a grain which equates in my 7-270 WSM as a variance of 7FPS and often my gun will show an ES sub 10
@craignmz52643 жыл бұрын
This is the info I was looking for in all the comments.
@jakebirkmaier57035 жыл бұрын
Wow this video was exactly what I was looking for to see if the charge master was accurate enough for me (and it is) thanks
@davidebeling47112 жыл бұрын
I’m using ball powder. I did the plastic straw mod where you cut a piece of plastic drinking straw and put it in the dispenser tube. Also, I changed the fast and slow settings to fine tune it. (There is a video on KZbin of how to do this. It’s also in the owners manual). I tested mine by throwing 10 charges of 42.0 grains then weighing them on my lab scale which is accurate to .02 grains. My AVG was 41.942, SD of .033267, ES of .08. I think the Chargemaster 1500 is pretty accurate for the cost. Before dispensing loads I turn it on and let it warm up for 5 minutes. Then I run 1 or 2 loads through it just to even out the powder in the dispensing tube. After that I do my reloading.
@PatriotPaulUSA3 жыл бұрын
Its an old video but for 109.95 its definately a inexpensive way to throw a more accurate load. I'm to cheap to spend the 2-3K for the pro setup. The cheapest scale I can find to read .0001g was 1600.00 so I will just try both ways and see if accuracy improves any. Thanks Eric.
@joemiller93143 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this, I always wondered how to get more accuracy out of my rcbs
@hendrix923 Жыл бұрын
old video I know but want to mention a few things. Always close the doors while weighing with these sensitive scales air movement even very slight will affect them, also and most important they should be leveled on their own leveled table or block or atleast dont have anything next to them/touching them that has moving parts or can cause vibrations this will easily throw them off. Theyll pick up a light tap on a solid granite table a few feet away. Allow some time for warm up and have a good consistent QC process with a range of certified weights and track it. This is a few things an accredited lab would do while using these types of scales to get accurate readings.
@SixOFord2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info on the beep. The over throws made me retire my chargemaster and go back to my Harrels powder drop and trickler. I'll give the case over the stem trick a try. After I turn off that beep.
@aaronm86946 жыл бұрын
I've only pressed the zero button 50 times without a tray so far.... :)
@deeeeeepsАй бұрын
To mute the beep on your RCBS ChargeMaster 1500, follow these steps- Hold Down the Zero Button: When the beep occurs at the end of each cycle, press and hold the “Zero” button until the display shows “beep off.” Repeat to Restore Beep: If you want to restore the beep function later, repeat the same procedure by holding down the “Zero” button.
@ericbc79 жыл бұрын
The Sartorius GD 503 was replaced by the Entris 64-1s I believe. Retail is about $1,500 but on accurate shooter forum there is a dealership advertising them for about $1,000. I enjoyed the video Erik!
@smoak8883 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone need 0.1 mg readability on the above mentioned sartorial us scale? Isn’t that an overkill since 0.1 grains is like 6.5 mg? Wouldn’t the cheaper 1 mg feasibility scales be just as good?
@Jonno2summit7 жыл бұрын
The easiest way to change the feed rate on any auto-trickler is to change the angle of the feed tube by placing a spacer under the front feet of the unit. I've been using the RCBS for a few months now and love it. HOWEVER, for small pistol loads mine ran too fast & furious and always went over. After lengthy use of explitives I simply put a 3/8" spacer under the front feet to decrease the angle of the feed tube and make it less aggressive (my spacer was actually .390 thick, but the feet on the unit are adjustable). With the spacer my pistol loads were 99% reliable. One thing to keep in mind is that most reviews for ANY auto-measure list over-charging as an issue, and decreasing the angle of the feed tube will be an easy fix for any brand. If you have over-charges for rifle as well, then just raise the front and decrease the angle. Spread the word. :-)
@cathlive2676 жыл бұрын
A little late, but you can adjust the speed in the settings. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKaql6h5h56FgNE
@Jonno2summit4 жыл бұрын
@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 Personally I don't see the 1/4" riser as a problem, but you raise a good question. I will listen to anyone who says it does affect the performance. The biggest factor for me is a warm-up time of 2-3 hours for stable readings.
@Jonno2summit4 жыл бұрын
@@cathlive267 Thank you for the link!
@desabc2217 жыл бұрын
Erik. Great video. Very interesting. I put a little powder on a white towel and use a spoon to put one kernel at a time! Basically the same thing! It was nice the why you proved the technique. We do this for the reasons we do it, ignore any negative comments....
@talkingrock70116 жыл бұрын
I think your test were the same results as mine but I used a beam scale instead , the charge master is a 1 tenth scale I like to verify with another scale also , thanks for your input
@michaelajero24094 жыл бұрын
Charge master value that it shows rounds out the charge to a the tenth of a grain which means internally it measures to maybe to .025 or .050 for example. While the sartorius measures even smaller internally and spits out a rounded out number even more finer than the charge master.
@Rico11b Жыл бұрын
Here's the rub for me. Not every kernel of powder burns during the shot. You can watch many slo-motion videos of the powder kernels chasing the bullets out of the barrel. Sometimes the kernels burn late, or not at all. Thus they are just sprayed out behind the bullet and wasted. Especially with slow burning powders that are still burning long after the bullet has left the barrel.
@kentuckywindage2222 жыл бұрын
The plastic cover over the RCBS might help. Like the scale surrounded in glass.
@barrygiblett58232 жыл бұрын
Hi Erik, I put a voltage regulator on my 1500, it made the internal scales a lot more stable..
@earlhuff78473 жыл бұрын
I have the Chargemaster light. If I run 4350 or powders that have long granules I get a lot of over throws. Smaller powders I have found to be super consistent. I double check about 6th round with a beam scale and never had an issue with Lite. My loads are for hunting so if I was off as much as .1 of a grain it would not bother me at all.
@richardrisner36352 жыл бұрын
You just need to tune your dispenser speeds by stage, I went from 30% overthrows to maybe 5%
@davelambers52743 жыл бұрын
I have a Satoius scale on my bench and if you close the door on the scale you will get a more consistent reading...
@kevinpillsbury5291 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful Thankyou. I’m glad I bought a charge master
@gennybogden54046 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy, really like the video. Attention to detail is always important good job made me laugh at the end. Thanks for the advice. Yours truly art bogden Pittsburgh PA
@rangersmith46524 жыл бұрын
I guess I'm old school. I use a manual Hornady powder measure and drop charges, weighing each one and adjusting up or down until I get five in a row spot on. Then I charge cases one at a time, rechecking every tenth or so. I get very consistent charges much more quickly than this machine can produce, assuming the results I see in this video are the best it can do. So, in my experience, the best way to make it more accurate would be to put it in its box and get an old school powder dropper and a scale.
@martinscanlon94232 жыл бұрын
You have convinced me that I don't need anything more than the RCBS Chargemaster! I do trickle up now though, just because I am less likely to over-throw that way. You have demonstrated on one of your other videos that you have a node 6 grains wide, so the error of a single kernel here is probably not significant at the end of the day. One thing to notice is that the Chargemaster error was always over, never under. Of course for a device that reads to only one decimal place, a true weight of 30.00gr and up to 30.09gr will both read as 30.0gr, so it is more likely to have errors over than under I suspect. If this is the case, perhaps it's best to keep to the lower end of your node? Another thing, the smallest unit you can add with that powder is 0.04 gr (a single kernel) so there is no point being able to resolve any finer than that, is there? Also, you didn't mention how or if you calibrated the two scales, or checked each with known weights. My calibration pack tells me to avoid picking them up with bare fingers, and to use tweezers instead. Not sure how much a greasy fingerprint weighs, but each time you picked up the tray, you added it!
@rollinmckim47194 жыл бұрын
Hey, Erik ~ THANKS for turning me onto the Dandy Trickler.......it is GREAT !!! Loading a little faster with a lot more precision now. Wish I could afford the Prometheus and Sartorious products. Do have the Giraud annealer and case trimmer on order. Thanks again for sharing so much! Rollin
@rollinmckim47193 жыл бұрын
Since I bought that Dandy Trickler, I bought the Chargemaster 1500, just ordered a Mitutoyo Calipers, have the Giraud trimmer and annealer..... Gotta quit watching Erik Cortina videos, I'm going broke! Thank goodness I have my own Barndominium, had an Arco Steel put up two years ago and put a fancy shop into it.....the rest is garage and storage including attic, plus my wife's green room. Thanks, Eric!!! Stay Well !!
@danielcourtright56592 жыл бұрын
I just now viewed this, lol, but chasing prairie dogs in WY. and running 1000s of rounds of. 223, I wore out a Lyman then a Hornady auto charge. The best thing I came up with is to place a sharpie cap over the tube with a proper sized hole drilled in the end for the kind of powder being dispensed and the overcharge loads stopped. BTW Hornady would recondition my unit but wanted more than buying a new one. Shoot straight.
@davidmackee85753 жыл бұрын
Good video once again I'm thinking of getting a Chargemaster think it's the best one on the market at the moment...
@blaynemacpherson85193 жыл бұрын
Very impressed. Never thought of that. Thank you.
@possumpopper892 жыл бұрын
Have one of the early RCBS electronic powder chargers. I never use it because my powder measure throws more consistent charges. I had an old 505 scale which was a lot more consistent for trickling. When it broke I went to a powder measure. With my 505 I was actually able to thew and trickle faster than the electronic measure when you factor in all the over charges I had to dump back into the powder hopper.
@ericbc79 жыл бұрын
My Ed has been large while using the chargemaster alone. Thanks to this video I plan to trickle my charges or maybe use my Gempro to dial it in.
@greenacres45183 жыл бұрын
I dispense with RCBS lite and trickle up with omega to an EJ-123. With Varget, the RCBS is within 0.04gr of reading as accurate as the AND EJ-123. It will fluctuate up and down a little over 2-3 hours of work. I'm still amazed at the accuracy.
@johnleake7089 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Erik. I also have a Chargemaster, which I am frustrated with. About 60% of the time (no actual statistics) overcharges using either RL22 or 4831SC. If I re-enter the charge weight sometimes that helps. The beep does drive me crazy as well. Your extension with the case looks very good, I'll try something like that.
@ErikCortina9 жыл бұрын
John Leake As you can see, if you hold down the "zero" button long enough it will turn the beep off. Make sure you don't spill powder all over your bench when you do so! ;)
@DimaProk9 жыл бұрын
John Leake Don't forget to enable auto-discharge by holding ENTER for 3 seconds. Most useful feature ever.
@craigbartley15717 жыл бұрын
Sir, your sartorius scale negative number keeps changing from .675 to .690
@scotmetcalf27457 жыл бұрын
Eric fine video I'm a beginner and this is great information. Thank you for your time subscribing
@timroy89493 жыл бұрын
i had a bad experience with my rcbs lite throwing radical charges , i now double check every charge on a beam scale, maybe o.c.d. but a better piece of mind
@slipknnnot3 жыл бұрын
How many years does it take you to load 40 rounds
@timroy89493 жыл бұрын
i shoot precision rifle tournaments, and long range , not loading for plinking and spray n pray
@ddn796 жыл бұрын
I have been loading on a CM1500 for years and can get most of my loads under 5FPS ES, some are around 1FPS ES. It's not the CM that is doing the work, it's all the other factors like brass, primers, neck tension, temp and so forth. I just don't buy the 1 or 2 kernel difference would make in your ES. I would love to see someone do a blind test over a chrono on equally prepped brass and loads from a CM1500 vs a Prometheus.
@garrybang63605 жыл бұрын
Nice video, just curious what you have your settings on on your charge master to throw that fast?
@thetriode3 жыл бұрын
You're really pushing the boundaries of your gear here. It's cool to watch. The proper thing to do would be to get better gear but at the same time that's not always possible or affordable so one has to work with what they have. In engineering speak the area between one increment and the next is referred to as "quantization error." That means that anything in between is merely a guess. When you add your Satorious to the mix that obviously increases the precision you can measure to. Without it you're estimating what you're trickling in which is still doable but is dependent on the skill of the person doing the trickling and the ability of the Chargemaster to measure a weight it can not put on the screen consistently. Then again, also worth asking is how much many FPS deviation is one kernel of powder worth in a load up with all else being equal? I'm betting you've done some testing on this question at one point or another and based on the video just given it's enough to have some form of meaning to you in the rules format you shoot in.
@Mogleyo0698 жыл бұрын
made master MR , on my way to high master, picked up a gempro and CM1500 hoping it'll help a bit. thanks for the videos!
@Johnny-jr2lq3 жыл бұрын
Okay so I’m considering picking up a RCBS Match Master for 799 dollars. Would I be better served by just picking up a Sertorius and the trickler like you have in this video Eric. Because all these scale videos are really driving me nuts.
@T-K2 Жыл бұрын
I do the conversion to grams, which gives me 2 decimal places instead of 1, stumbled across that while calibrating. Hoping it’s more accurate and consistent.
@janbloemendaal92992 жыл бұрын
There are those who have and those who will when a blooper occurs
@DimaProk9 жыл бұрын
I've noticed your powder is tricking off center to the edge of the pan. Also when you set the pan to weight on Sartorius scale you also don't center. Maybe it's just my cheap Franklin scale, but the weight measurement can vary whenever I have bulk of the weight on the edge or in the center.
@happyhome412 жыл бұрын
This is really interesting. What this tells me, is my RCBS is no better than the better mechanic powder dispensers, and of course the latter are much faster.
@Eyerelief13 жыл бұрын
I noticed that the Sartorius floated by the same delta as the Chargemaster threw. The chargemaster showed -153.665 through -153.695 throughout the video. Could that help explain part of the delta? I would not expect the Chargemaster to hit 30.000 every time, just curious
@addictedtopussy695 жыл бұрын
i'im impressed with the accuracy of the rcbs.
@JP1AO Жыл бұрын
I noticed the spread of your Zero for the pan drifted over time. Watch the empty reading. It goes from 153.695 to 153.665.
@stephenthompson97223 жыл бұрын
11:35 Eric I have never dropped a grain of powder in my life..joked of course I have!
@mikejoeinc.1478 Жыл бұрын
I use digital jewelry scale along side my charger master and it cost under $20 they are more accurate
@tomjoseph14442 жыл бұрын
I have to seriously wonder if 0.0005 of a grain really makes a difference.
@wildcat_reloading3 жыл бұрын
I have a Hornaday auto charge, but I always double check my charge weight
@Hollywoodsmokeshow9 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried throwing light and using the built in trickle option with the charge master?
@ErikCortina9 жыл бұрын
Hollywoodsmokeshow Not yet, I will try it and see how it performs. Thanks.
@gallopazzesco22922 жыл бұрын
Outstanding!
@judclark73763 жыл бұрын
move the trickler over to the scale because that's where the accuracy is
@williebulletman52174 жыл бұрын
Another Great Video
@dennisdial7872 Жыл бұрын
So trickler is manual operated by that control with the cord
@IDBIGBORE45708 жыл бұрын
Nice video.
@luckyshotammunitiongunsllc23693 жыл бұрын
I use the danny trickle 2 on my a&d ej-54d2 and its perfect and amazing
@luckyshotammunitiongunsllc23693 жыл бұрын
But I do my quick throw with one of my lyman gen 6 then dump into my a&d ej-54d2 . I drilled a perfectly fitted hole for the dandy trickle to fit and bam..perfect every time.. take a min of two but worth it
@aztecsec Жыл бұрын
Why not do the same thing using the trickle function on the chargemaster? Does it dump too much?
@gallopazzesco22922 жыл бұрын
Nevermind .. modified 6Br case! Got it.
@CplSkiUSMC2 жыл бұрын
I use the Chargemaster to run a charge .2 under then transfer it to a balance beam scale and trickle up. I don't have an expensive Sartorius but with a balance beam scale I can watch it change with just one kernel of powder... as shown, the Chargemaster won't do that.
@cornydad3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the practical accuracy difference would be using just the Chargemaster versus trickling up?
@goneballistic8 жыл бұрын
Nice video, interesting result: with the tricker you are 2x more accurate, but meaningless in reloading. 2 kernels won't make a difference in velocity, SD or anything else. For peace of mind it helps, but in real world shooting, probably not going to make much difference. Especially if you are loading into an accuracy node vs just a random load.
@ErikCortina8 жыл бұрын
Not meaningless at all. I compete at 1,000 yards regularly and it matters, that's the reason I have a Sartorious scale. If you are in the middle of a node, it won't matter much, but if you travel like I do and find yourself on the edge of a node due to temperature differences, it's better to have your powder charge as consistent as possible so that you can stay in the node even if you are on the edge.
@bensteinsholt68999 жыл бұрын
I throw within about 2-3tenths of a grain less than the necessary charge weight with my Harrels. Then I trickle up with my Omega to the right weight. I don't have a Sartorius, I do have an A&D FX-120I which will measure, with most powders, down to the kernel. I wonder what powder you were using in your demonstration. My FX will not measure 1 kernel of VV N140 or RL-15. With those powders it takes 2 kernels. But with everything else I have tried, it will measure to 1 kernel. I noticed that the Chargemaster, by itself, will only measure to within 2 kernels of the powder you were using. H4350 on the FX shows H4350 needs only 3 kernels to move 1 tenth of a grain. So if the Chargemaster will average 2 kernels, it is moving H4350 nearly a tenth back or forth (+ /-) which would translate to 1/10th up or down between charges. On large cases, I guess it would be tolerable, However, I wonder what it would do with RL-15 which could translate to + or - 4-5 kernels with each charge dispensed. That could make a difference with smaller cases OR if you happen to be operating at the upper end of your node..
@kokonanana13 жыл бұрын
.04grains=1kernal 30 grains/.04grains/kernel=750 kernels per load 1/750=0.13% difference with 1grain overload 2/750=0.27% difference with 2 grains overload
@chrisbearnson95784 жыл бұрын
I understand the importance of charge weight but when we are Looking at an ES this low (.040) What is the difference down range at 1000 yards?
@slipknnnot3 жыл бұрын
It depends percentage wise to your charge and where you are at your node
@MichaelLloyd2 жыл бұрын
I picked up one of the new Chargemasters that you can use an app with. I loaded 4 rounds with it, put it in the box, and put the old one (like yours) back on the bench. It might be interesting to shoot 5 with xx charge and then load 5 with xx charge plus 1 kernel of powder.
@martinwilliams94534 жыл бұрын
Good Video thanks for the hard work here’s a question. if I’m shooting around the size of a dime at 100 yards with the CM1500 is that good Enough at 1000 yards
@Knotrockets4 жыл бұрын
As long as your bullet coefficient is good , it sure is.
@bobwiese61283 жыл бұрын
ES of velocity plays a large part in long range!
@timgreen37703 жыл бұрын
I'm very curious, does volume of powder vs. weight and case volume affect combustion? There has to be a lot going on in the cartridge. Love your channel! Keep up the good work!
@MrOlgrumpy2 жыл бұрын
yes
@zeroone38353 жыл бұрын
Hi can u please make a video on tuning the rcbs.
@JayKayKay73 жыл бұрын
What if the more important measure is volume? Easier to meter with ball powders vs stick.
@scratchninja8 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for sharing this information, I was about to buy a sartorius but now it doesnt feel necessary :) On a sidenote, it would be interesting to know how much the ES or standard deviation in load weight translates to the ES and standard deviation in mussle velocity. Especially between volume sorted casings vs unsorted. Do you know which factor is the most important one to keep track of, if the goal is to reduce the ES in mussle velocity? ;)
@ErikCortina8 жыл бұрын
+scratchninja Neck tension will give you the most gains in accuracy. I use a Sartorious for my competition loads, but I also turn necks, sort brass, sort bullets, trim bullets, and point bullets among other things. Accuracy is expensive and time consuming! ;)
@mattg25964 жыл бұрын
@@ErikCortina I use ion beam case and bullet zero deviance machine. 1.2mill i put into it. But then i fucked the theory up by shooting it outside of a fucking vacuum tube. I come to realize that wind change is different througought distance. A friend of mine won bench rest competitions with a fucking savage stainless barrel ,athlon scope and just loading within 1/10th gr. and within .5gr bullet weight, and within .005 bullet runout , and within .001 seating depths.
@davegoddard3 жыл бұрын
Wish I could find some varget!!
@greenacres45183 жыл бұрын
Gunbroker if you like paying 4x the price.
@davegoddard3 жыл бұрын
@@greenacres4518 I can wait for 2x. Hoping something breaks loose pretty soon though.
@justice13273 жыл бұрын
I bet he doesn’t throw the powder away today!
@callumhepworth-smith63762 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason why you dont use a draft cover on the RCBS?
@samuelwilliamsii8283 жыл бұрын
Just a question How constant are balance beam scales like rcbs M500? Thanks for your time and effort in the videos.
@WildernessMedic3 жыл бұрын
Play with it and you’ll find out. It’s pretty hard to be able to tell a difference between .1 grns
@saleen3083 жыл бұрын
What would the differences in SD's from the rifle be if you just used the powder throws from the RCBS?
@moitoi40643 жыл бұрын
How did you make the Charge master dispense without having to press the Disp button?
@billcarlson8522 жыл бұрын
How much will these over throws affect your standard deviation and extreme spread? ? ?
@SpinandThrowDiscGolf6 жыл бұрын
We need smaller kernels.
@ashiha138 жыл бұрын
Hey Erik, if you ever get a chance, I would love to see your current reloading process from beginning to end. Do you use a more simplistic process like a lot of short-range benchrest shooters do on the firing line, or do you go through more "advanced" processes like bullet pointing, using various sorting methods, loading by the kernel, using an arbor press with Wilson seaters while measuring seating pressure, or anything else? I'm always intrigued to see the different methods of the ultra high-end shooters.
@ErikCortina7 жыл бұрын
I use a "more advanced" process. I use custom F/L sizing dies, Wilson style seaters, trim meplats, point bullets, anneal brass, sort bullets, use a hydro press for seating bullets, and dispense powder with a Prometheus II.
@ashiha137 жыл бұрын
Thanks for replying Erik. It still means a lot to me even after all this time. What is the press that you use for seating? Do you have any opinions about the new Mec Marksman press? I have been looking at getting a Co-Ax for a long time, but I think the Mec Marksman might be a better fit.
@ErikCortina7 жыл бұрын
ashiha I seat Bullets with a hydro press from 21st century. Get the Co-Ax press, you will be very happy with it. The MEC press is a "standard" ram design, the co-ax works better than those presses.
@keyhole9601 Жыл бұрын
the electronic scale, during the weighings, has lost zero....
@badcrockett573 жыл бұрын
You are trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Have you considered this... lose the chargemaster, get a good powder drop and trickle up to your specified weight on the Sartorius. It would faster. Oh, and use a manual trickler.
@daltexmex7 жыл бұрын
I'd buy a second chargemaster and just load the rounds I need.. That's to precise.. Spend more time weighing than shooting.
@ErikCortina7 жыл бұрын
No such thing as "too precise".
@daltexmex7 жыл бұрын
Erik Cortina you sure?
@ErikCortina7 жыл бұрын
daltexmex Yes.
@daltexmex7 жыл бұрын
Erik Cortina I think it will be ok to hit targets at distance and fast.
@ironbunny41216 жыл бұрын
not for F class.
@tommeboy33342 жыл бұрын
These chargemasters have a bad habit of a wandering zero when the pan is off the load cell. To stop this turn the scale on and leave it for at least an hour. This was why that first 30.1gr happened. Watch the display and you will see it. I like to write down the weight when you lift the pan off. That way you can catch it as it happens. When you lift up the thrown charge it will show a 0.1gr increase over the weight you wrote down before
@brc24508 жыл бұрын
Cortina, Where did you get the powder trickier from ?
@mdslammer3 жыл бұрын
Nice video Erik. Thanks. I checked, but looks like the Dandy trickler is no longer made or available. What would you recommend in it's place?
@ErikCortina3 жыл бұрын
Chargemaster 1500 on its own works well.
@chrisburns613 жыл бұрын
The Dandy two speed trickler is still available. I bought one just a few months ago. They run $106. dandyproductsllc.com/products/dandy-2-speed-electric-powder-trickler
@longrangehunter63939 жыл бұрын
Over 10+ charges i have found my chargemaster has a ES of .2 grains, according to my gempro250
@ErikCortina9 жыл бұрын
Longrangehunter Have you made any modifications to it to help with overthrows?
@longrangehunter63939 жыл бұрын
Erik Cortina, i have put a McDonalds straw in and programmed it to run faster as demonstrated in 8541 Tactical's video demonstration.
@edhyde17413 жыл бұрын
Testing 50 loads, I've had the same 0.2 grains accuracy with the ChargeMaster. So I use the charge master to get the load within 0.2 grains and trickle up on my Sagittarius 100th of a grain scale.
@kingrider757 жыл бұрын
And this is the precise reason I still don't own a chargemaster. If I have to trickle with another piece of equipment I'm no better off than using the beam, lee dipper, and trickler.
@jefflovesdogs99737 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and you will spend a lot more time getting your powder charge right the manual way. Suit yourself. I know better.
@ironbunny41216 жыл бұрын
If you want to not spend a few hundred dollars, fine - we get it. but the chargemaster and trickler is the fastest, best way to get an accurate, repeatable charge, without going to 5000 dollar pieces of equipment. you will spend several active minutes per charge compared to 30 seconds mostly idle, during which time we can set a bullet and have a finished cartridge before you finish weighing your charge. again, if you just do not want to, or cannot afford it, fine - but dont blame the equipment for your decision.
@Berettashooter76 жыл бұрын
Erik is there any trick to the casing for the powder reducer or just cut a casing with the pipe cutter and fit it to the tube with tape and go from there? Thanks this video helped me tremendously as a new reloader.
@michaelo14929 жыл бұрын
This is all new to me but do you weigh each bullet ? To see if that would change how much powder load you should use. each bullet can't weigh exactly the same...
@ErikCortina9 жыл бұрын
+michaelo1492 I weigh each bullet and separate them into different batches. I then load them in batches to maintain consistency. I don't change powder charge to compensate for bullet weight.
@ErikCortina9 жыл бұрын
Setting the pan off center in the Sartorious scale does not make a difference in the weight the scale reads.
@ErikCortina9 жыл бұрын
Dima Prok There is someone I know working on a powder trickler that would interface through the data port on the Sartorious scale for very accurate charges. I don't know how close he is to releasing his trickler so I don't want to say anymore about it. The other way is to get a Prometheus Gen II as it is very fast and extremely accurate.
@DimaProk9 жыл бұрын
Erik Cortina Interesting... I am not quite there yet, I though spending close to 300 on Chargemaster was a lot :-) and I bought it really only to try it but now that I loaded 600 rounds, I don't know if I can return it.... I like it and RCBS $50 rebate brings it down under 250. Originally I was going to get a "good" scale around $100 bucks and omega trickler, (after watching your video I was really impressed with Omega). For the price I think I'll keep it. Update: Even with all the "mods" it was still giving me .2 points of spread and that simply was not the accuracy I was looking for so I returned and got Gem Pro 250 scale and made my own Omega style trickler which cost me buck 59 to make it, the scale was $142. I don't like the scale because it has small numbers and lousy viewing angle and feels really cheap made and negative weight drifts and when I put empty pan back sometimes it's off by 0.10 grain! RCBS scale that came with Chargemaster was much better quality, it rarely drifted and negative weight was consistent most of the time, it just didn't have the same resolution as GemPro. I don't want to spend crazy amount of money on scale so I guess I am stuck with Gem Pro 250 for now. I wish RCBS had a scale with better resolution, I would buy one and they have engineers that actually put some though in to design.
@kokonanana13 жыл бұрын
Dima Prok My gem pro crapped out after about a year.
@daviddale36243 жыл бұрын
I appreciate absolute accuracy, but do not understand the need for more than tenth of a grain accuracy when most nodes are wider that a couple of full grains.
@ErikCortina3 жыл бұрын
What if you are on the edge of the node? 🤔😉
@daviddale36243 жыл бұрын
@@ErikCortina Ooooohhhh Nooooode! Whatever the width in grains (of the node) start a third from the bottom. More often than not, the problem is environmental conditions that push the velocity beyond the upper control limit.
@redleg10136 жыл бұрын
Sir, with all respect, you're at the point of, if not just past, the point of diminishing returns. I was half expecting some editing within the setup menu, to actually improve the accuracy of the Chargemaster itself, not showing what experienced loaders already know; throw low, trickle up.
@ErikCortina6 жыл бұрын
redleg1013 You have to understand that not everyone is an experienced reloaded. Experienced reloaders don’t need help, they already know what to do... well, at least some of them. ;)
@ruhurtin4squrtin349 жыл бұрын
side question to anyone: if i get a 30 inch custom barrel and wanted a 20inch barrel for 308. if chamber length is 2.8-2.9, then do i subtract this value from 30inch. so the actual length of barrel is 22.9 inches? secondly, if diameter at muzzle is 1 inch, then is 3/4-24 or 28 thread more secure for brake or suppressor vs 5/8-24?
@ruhurtin4squrtin349 жыл бұрын
Erik Cortina thank you
@bavariasuhl8 жыл бұрын
Why wouldnt you transfer the pan at 29.8 to the Sartorious and trickle the remaining as the weakest component is the rcbs scale.
@ErikCortina8 жыл бұрын
I do, but not everyone has a $1,000+ scale, that's why I was showing how they can get the most out of their chargemaster.
@nicholas17408 жыл бұрын
+Erik Cortina This is the first video i've watched on your channel and thanks for the learning experience. I learned something new. I was going to ask where i could get a scale like that but after seeing the price haha... But, where can i get an electronic trickler like you have? Again, great video!
@martinjoubert31728 жыл бұрын
Check on the changing and inconsistancy of the weight of the pan on the supposely accurate scale. It is a contributing factor on what you are trying to show. Kinda the "blind leading the blind"
@Owaheeguy8 жыл бұрын
Is that the end of a primer pick up tube on the dispensing tube?