What does the writing of Katy Perry, Hemingway, and The Bible have in common? Mark Forsyth has the answer. He studied history's greatest writers and noticed how they used the same rhetorical formulas. Here's what you need to know: 1. The formulas are timeless (and still work). 2. Where to begin? Try taking the last word of one sentence and repeating it as the first word in the next. It gives the illusion of logic. Like this one from Yoda: "Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hatred. Hatred leads to suffering." 3. An example from Malcolm X: "Once you change your philosophy, you change your thought pattern. Once you change your thought pattern, you change your attitude. Once you change your attitude, it changes your behavior pattern and then you go on into some action." 4. It's a mystery why, but people love to hear a string of words that begins with the same letter. "Two to Tango" is a heck of a lot more memorable than "Two to Waltz." 5. From his book, Elements of Eloquence: "Adjectives in English absolutely have to be in this order: opinion-size-age-shape-colour-origin-material-purpose Noun." 6. People will tell you to write only what's necessary, but endless repetition can be a way to emphasize something. Katy Perry's repetition of opposites is logically unnecessary, but it works: "'Cause you're hot then you're cold, You're yes then you're no, You're in then you're out, You're up then you're down, You're wrong when it's right, It's black and it's white, We fight, we break up, We kiss, we make up." 7. Wedding vows have the same kind of repetition: "For better or for worse, for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health..." 8. JFK leaned on a rhetorical device called a Chiasmus, where you take the first half of a sentence and say it backward. You see it in sentences like "Mankind must put an end to war-or war will put an end to mankind" and "Ask not what your country can do for you-ask what you can do for your country." 9. I like the Chiasmus because it's so easy to implement. Here's another example of a Chiasmus, like when Cormac McCarthy wrote: "You forget what you want to remember, and you remember what you want to forget." 10. Language is ruled by the mob. Doesn't matter what the committees think. If everybody uses a word in a certain way, then that's what it means. 11. Most of Shakespeare's famous lines are simply examples of famous formulas. 12. Shakespeare often "stole" content from other people, but he improved what he stole by using rhetorical formulas and figures of speech. Mark insists that he had Thomas North’s translation of Plutarch open while writing Julius Caesar. 13. Write two things that connect, then add a twist for the third thing. The magic comes from the surprise. An example is: "Lies, damned lies, and statistics." Another is: "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." 14. Sometimes, the things that stick will simply surprise you. One of the most famous lines in film history only has three words: "Bond. James Bond." 15. The James Bond-style line is called a Diacope. Other examples are "Burn, baby, burn" and "Zed’s dead, baby, Zed’s dead."
@rebeccagarcia5749Ай бұрын
I think you meant Katy Perry, Dickens, and the Bible…
@PaddyLamontАй бұрын
This episode is like being introduced to a whole new universe of writing tools
@DavidPerellChannelАй бұрын
Dig it! Strongly recommend Mark's book: The Elements of Eloquence
@PaddyLamontАй бұрын
@@DavidPerellChannel Already ordered it! :D
@jarrodsio22 күн бұрын
Heard his accent, checked his bio. Of course he went to Oxford. Outstanding interview. Kudos.
@dcle944Ай бұрын
This is an incredible. I wish there are more videos like this to actually teach us how to write.
@ericmarshsr.6510Ай бұрын
The fact that he quoted Coolio is evidence that he is in fact a master of his craft. Kudos to you, sir.
@CoachCam7134 күн бұрын
My Coolio, he meant Snoop Dog. But he gets a pass for his riveting accent. ⚡️⚡️
@tedtalksrock16 күн бұрын
This guy wrote a wonderful book on this topic. 8:13 Ah! They mention it here. The Elements of Eloquence. Absolute classic. Secret sauce for any word chef. 👩🍳 👌
@carolekeingati8055Күн бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this discussion, I was absolutely sat between you two. Its interesting how passionate Mark sounds with a somewhat serious delivery😅 he must love hip hop😊
@eugene_oboАй бұрын
I wish this was correctly subtitled... these words are new to me, and they are just epic. Thanks man 💖💖
@DavidPerellChannelАй бұрын
Thanks for listening
@muadzazmi9469Ай бұрын
the video is getting better and better. love it
@DavidPerellChannelАй бұрын
Thanks!
@sultanalshirahАй бұрын
Just in time for my long car ride. You are unstoppable 👍.
@DavidPerellChannelАй бұрын
Hope you liked it
@opolliticoАй бұрын
Starting strong, so good so far
@joshuafuentes-smithАй бұрын
Wow, thank you both. Very good.
@coreyboxАй бұрын
“If it flows out of you, it flows into the reader”
@timdemossАй бұрын
Feeling the pressure to come up with a rhetorically eloquent comment - but I'll just say, this was incredibly helpful and thank you so much. :)
@DavidPerellChannelАй бұрын
Hahaha… glad you liked it
@markothwriterАй бұрын
this video blew my mind, what a great find, it came at a perfect time, all stuff about rhyme,
@DavidPerellChannelАй бұрын
Nice.... you should pick up Mark's book! "The Elements of Eloquence"
@markothwriterАй бұрын
@@DavidPerellChannel Yes. I just bought it. I will read it this August.
@felixquansah5214Ай бұрын
Genius content!!!
@iLoveWriting365Ай бұрын
Great intro - watching this now!
@DavidPerellChannelАй бұрын
Enjoy it
@Bhagirathraj-c5gАй бұрын
It will help me ❤thanks dude
@DavidPerellChannelАй бұрын
Good stuff
@anythingelseplease12327 күн бұрын
Great this is me loves. Your videos are well good and me watches it all the live long hour.
@flor.7797Ай бұрын
30:13 18th century highyway thief slang ❤❤😂🎉
@DavidPerellChannelАй бұрын
So random and quirky and strange
@abdulmohaimin9982Ай бұрын
Did you intentionally misspeak the JFK line in your intro? 😂
@JonathanedillonАй бұрын
Yeah I was like, uhhhhhh? lol
@DavidPerellChannelАй бұрын
Oops… total brain fart
@dcle944Ай бұрын
I have his book. I thought he’s an old man. Turns out he’s younger than me. Now I need to figure what I have done with my life in all these years.
@user-yl5sp5ww8eАй бұрын
"...younger than _I_." 😂 Sorry, the homeschool dad in me just HAD to...!
@SoccolichАй бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@ClarkeScottАй бұрын
Did anyone else go and search the Wizard of Oz scene for "Fly my pretties fly"...convince Mark was wrong? Could not find it. So where is that from?
@SuhaibAndrabi22 күн бұрын
I leave this line form Jay-z and Kanye West's " no church in the wild" : Is Pious pious ’cause God loves pious? Socrates asks, “whose bias do y’all seek?”
@EnscriptivАй бұрын
Same as Star Wars where we all remember "Luke, I am your father", but that's not the correct line from the movie I believe.
@sultanalshirahАй бұрын
It sounds like you flipped the speech here in 01:21 😅😅
@DavidPerellChannelАй бұрын
Oops! Honest mistake
@800-high929 күн бұрын
At 1:20, that's not what JFK said
@user-yl5sp5ww8eАй бұрын
David reversed the JFK quote. 😂
@rxfadillah24 күн бұрын
I wonder if rapper like Harry Mack use these writing techniques
@SuhaibAndrabi22 күн бұрын
Here's one from Jay-z : Is Pious pious ’cause God loves pious? Socrates asks, “whose bias do y’all seek?”
@thomascleveland11 күн бұрын
Next time he's on, can you ask him what the technical term is for this? kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWi1mIFvns-qe5Y
@ronbeaubien22 күн бұрын
Where is the cheat sheet? All I see is an hour-long video.